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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #350 on: Today at 12:19:08 pm »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #351 on: Today at 12:25:34 pm »
This will just be another indication that England has fallen.

As if we needed more proof.  Seriously, does anybody in the known Universe think the UK would lift even a pinky finger if Argentina waltzed into the Falklands today?  We actually have an Aircraft Carrier on maneuvers in Argentina right now and we aren't going to stop Argentina!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #352 on: Today at 12:26:50 pm »
In the history of the world, who has surrendered during a ceasefire? There's no incentive to surrender under those conditions.
Oh, I dunno.  A ceasefire means neither side is fighting but messaging before it can be pretty dramatic and cause one side to surrender nevertheless.

Genghis Khan captured Nishapur and murdered 100,000 men, women and children, even animals, and stacked their heads into several mountain of skulls.  Several cities afterwards chose not to fight and surrendered to Khan's armies.

BTW, Nishapur was part of Persia not too far from Tehran, and comprised of Muslims.  Ironic, eh?


 
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #353 on: Today at 12:31:07 pm »
If anyone is delusional, it is you.

You have no idea of what is going on behind the scenes.

To think otherwise is fool.


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That is totally unfair...now I'll be thinking about pie all day.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #354 on: Today at 12:32:16 pm »
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NEW: The U.S. has burned through so many munitions in Iran that some administration officials increasingly assess that America couldn’t fully execute contingency plans to defend Taiwan from a Chinese invasion if it occurred in the near term, U.S. officials said.

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I don't know what officials said that, but I hope they read their Sun Tsu first.

When strong, feign weakness, when weak, feign strength.

The Iranians have.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #355 on: Today at 12:32:55 pm »
Genghis Khan captured Nishapur and murdered 100,000 men, women and children, even animals, and stacked their heads into several mountain of skulls.  Several cities afterwards chose not to fight and surrendered to Khan's armies.

Khan sure knew how to deal with Muslims.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #356 on: Today at 12:34:14 pm »
That is totally unfair...now I'll be thinking about pie all day.

Easy enough to remedy -- either get our your pie pan and start baking or run to the store bakery and take your pick.  happy77

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #357 on: Today at 12:38:59 pm »
While you're yammering on about pies and Argentina...

The POTUS has just CANCELED the Pakistani Peace Talk meetings.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #358 on: Today at 12:39:01 pm »
Khan sure knew how to deal with Muslims.
Have to add him to my Vlad Tepys list...
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #359 on: Today at 12:39:52 pm »
While you're yammering on about pies and Argentina...

The POTUS has just CANCELED the Pakistani Peace Talk meetings.

Hmmm.. Did Pi(e) just become a constant again?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #360 on: Today at 12:43:56 pm »
Khan sure knew how to deal with Muslims.
He wasn't particularly exclusive to dealing with Muslims, although they received a lot of his wrath.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #361 on: Today at 12:45:36 pm »
Easy enough to remedy -- either get our your pie pan and start baking or run to the store bakery and take your pick.  happy77

Pie is served daily in the Members Lounge.  :laugh:

Well if someone will make four pies, I promise to only eat 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459 of them and leave some for everyone else.

I like to be considerate of my fellow man.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #362 on: Today at 12:59:57 pm »
While you're yammering on about pies and Argentina...

The POTUS has just CANCELED the Pakistani Peace Talk meetings.


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🇺🇸 Fox News: Trump says he canceled Witkoff and Kushner’s Pakistan trip to meet Iranians, arguing the U.S. “has all the cards” and won’t send officials on long flights for unproductive talks.



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(btw, image in Trump tweet is photoshopped)
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #363 on: Today at 01:01:39 pm »

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🇮🇷Iran is now threatening to use its other leverage over the Gulf Arab states in Hormuz - undersea cables providing internet connectivity and electricity.

This comes straight from Russia’s sabotage playbook in the Baltic Sea which it has been using for at least a decade against 🇸🇪Sweden, 🇫🇮Finland, 🇪🇪Estonia, 🇱🇻Latvia, 🇱🇹Lithuania, 🇵🇱Poland and 🇩🇪Germany. A simple fishing vessel with a loose anchor dragged on the seabed can do damage to undersea cables worth millions, and can take up to a year to repair.



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #364 on: Today at 01:04:03 pm »
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🚨 IT’S OFFICIAL: Donald Trump says NO, his team is NOT wasting time meeting with unserious Iranians in Pakistan this weekend

RIGHT before Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner were preparing to board the plane, 47 said — you’re staying here. IRAN CAN CALL US!

TRUMP TO FOX: “We have all the cards. They can call us anytime they want, but you're not going to be making any more 18 hour flights to sit around talking about nothing!”

🔥🔥🔥

You can tell he’s done letting them play the delay game.

Act like they’re serious, then blow up negotiations again.

Bombs could drop soon. Our military is STILL reloaded in the region!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #365 on: Today at 01:06:12 pm »
About time!


Trump cancels Witkoff, Kushner trip to Pakistan for US-Iran talks

President Donald Trump told Fox News’ White House correspondent Aishah Hasnie on Saturday that U.S. negotiators Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner will no longer be heading to Pakistan for talks with Iran.

Trump said it’s not worth the U.S. delegation making the 18-hour flight to Pakistan when the U.S. holds all the cards in the conflict with Iran.

He added that the Iranians can call the U.S. at any time they want.

"I've told my people a little while ago they were getting ready to leave, and I said, 'Nope, you're not making an 18 hour flight to go there. We have all the cards. They can call us anytime they want, but you're not going to be making any more 18 hour flights to sit around talking about nothing’," Trump said.

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi has reportedly already left Islamabad, Pakistan, following talks there Saturday with the country's prime minister.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #366 on: Today at 01:07:47 pm »
Iran's foreign minister says he's 'yet to see if the US is truly serious about diplomacy'

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said Saturday that he has "yet to see if the U.S. is truly serious about diplomacy"

Araghchi made the remark on X after visiting Islamabad, Pakistan, for a meeting with Pakistan's Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif.

"Very fruitful visit to Pakistan, whose good offices and brotherly efforts to bring back peace to our region we very much value," Araghchi said. "Shared Iran's position concerning workable framework to permanently end the war on Iran."

Sharif, in his own statement, said he "had a most warm, cordial exchange of views on the current regional situation" in the Middle East during the meeting with Araghchi.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #367 on: Today at 01:09:46 pm »
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🇺🇸 Fox News: Trump says he canceled Witkoff and Kushner’s Pakistan trip to meet Iranians, arguing the U.S. “has all the cards” and won’t send officials on long flights for unproductive talks.



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(btw, image in Trump tweet is photoshopped)

Ok ... so if there aren't going to be any talks because the U.S. has all the cards and the talks are unproductive, then this only again extends the unsuccessful ceasefire. Then the U.S. needs to play all those cards negating the need for further action in Iran and we can exit.

Further, if the talks have been unproductive -- then send Kushner on his merry way.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #368 on: Today at 01:15:09 pm »
Oh, I dunno.  A ceasefire means neither side is fighting but messaging before it can be pretty dramatic and cause one side to surrender nevertheless.

Genghis Khan captured Nishapur and murdered 100,000 men, women and children, even animals, and stacked their heads into several mountain of skulls.  Several cities afterwards chose not to fight and surrendered to Khan's armies.

BTW, Nishapur was part of Persia not too far from Tehran, and comprised of Muslims.  Ironic, eh?


Same armpit of the world.  Sometimes (but not often), I can relate to Genghis Kahn and Vlad the Impaler.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #369 on: Today at 01:17:08 pm »
That is totally unfair...now I'll be thinking about pie all day.

I agree!  Chocolate Mousse Pie is totally unfair!!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #370 on: Today at 01:22:52 pm »
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🇮🇷Iran is now threatening to use its other leverage over the Gulf Arab states in Hormuz - undersea cables providing internet connectivity and electricity.

This comes straight from Russia’s sabotage playbook in the Baltic Sea which it has been using for at least a decade against 🇸🇪Sweden, 🇫🇮Finland, 🇪🇪Estonia, 🇱🇻Latvia, 🇱🇹Lithuania, 🇵🇱Poland and 🇩🇪Germany. A simple fishing vessel with a loose anchor dragged on the seabed can do damage to undersea cables worth millions, and can take up to a year to repair.



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An empty threat, considering it blacked out the internet in the only country whose only access is to those cables
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #371 on: Today at 01:36:52 pm »
I wonder if Trump is listening to Gen Keane and Gen Kellogg..both have been on Fox all week saying the same thing..these meetings are useless!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #372 on: Today at 01:53:56 pm »
Hmmm.. Did Pi(e) just become a constant again?

That's irrational...
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« Reply #373 on: Today at 02:00:13 pm »
I wonder if Trump is listening to Gen Keane and Gen Kellogg..both have been on Fox all week saying the same thing..these meetings are useless!

One wonders, how many times does it have to be proven Iran doesn't take negotiations seriously?  We have 47 years of broken promises from this bunch, some as recently as a week ago!
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« Reply #374 on: Today at 03:05:54 pm »
Somebody needs to be hung for leaking/spreading this.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #4
« Reply #375 on: Today at 03:06:44 pm »
One wonders, how many times does it have to be proven Iran doesn't take negotiations seriously?  We have 47 years of broken promises from this bunch, some as recently as a week ago!

One has to wonder why Trump is continuing to extend the ceasefire then.
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