Author Topic: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3 (Read 2405 times)

PeteS in CA · « **Reply #150 on:** **Today** at 02:29:56 pm »

Quote from: bigheadfred on Today at 10:09:57 am

https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/2036737919159762957

Some patrol boats must've poked their bows out of hiding, or maybe one of their small submarines (if any are not yet permanently submerged). That an A-10 is flying low near (the effective range of the GAU-8 is a bit under a mile) a major airbase shows the status of Iranian anti-aircraft capability in and near that base.

bigheadfred · « **Reply #151 on:** **Today** at 02:31:37 pm »

U.S. Central Command
@CENTCOM
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🚫FALSE: The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps announced a U.S. F/A-18 fighter was struck over Chabahar using new advanced air defense systems.

✅TRUE: No U.S. fighter aircraft have been shot down by Iran.

bigheadfred · « **Reply #152 on:** **Today** at 02:38:20 pm »

قالیباف | MB Ghalibaf
@mb_ghalibaf
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Translated from Persian
Based on some data, Iran's enemies, with the support of one of the regional countries, are preparing to occupy one of the Iranian islands.
All enemy movements are under the full surveillance of our armed forces. If they step out of line, all the vital infrastructure of that regional country will, without restriction, become the target of relentless attacks.

Fishrrman · « **Reply #153 on:** **Today** at 02:39:05 pm »

Unless we control Kharg Island AND the Straits after all this is over...
... we will have accomplished NOTHING.

We must establish "leverage" which can be held against iran in the future.
Stop being a rogue country, or... we will starve you out.

Again... I predict that anything less is going to lead to MAJOR disappointments, perhaps sooner, perhaps later.

"Victory" always carries a price.
What is that price here?
Are we willing to pay?
Or instead, will we just call it a day...?

Sorry if you don't care for this reply...

PeteS in CA · « **Reply #154 on:** **Today** at 02:41:14 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on Today at 10:14:06 am

https://twitter.com/Microinteracti1/status/2036749769322680727

Equine feces! The USS Abraham Lincoln moving, ASSuming the claim is even accurate, 500 miles means nothing. Carriers are not stationary. And the ship's F/A-18s were already doing mid-air refueling, so that 500 miles isn't that much of a change.

And if the Ford's problems were worse than some crew quarters being unusable and some laundry facilities being destroyed, the Ford would not just go to Souda on the island of Crete (Greece).

Fishrrman · « **Reply #155 on:** **Today** at 02:42:59 pm »

From reply 98 above:
"Iran reportedly operates 27 underground "missile cities" buried deep beneath mouontains..."

27 underground cities...
...27 nuclear units.
What's so complicated about that?

Do you want to put these places permanently out-of-commision?
Or don't you...?

PeteS in CA · « **Reply #156 on:** **Today** at 02:47:20 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on Today at 10:31:21 am

https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/2036797705553412554

I think that video might be a week or two old. The planes look to me to have been, chronologically, a C-130, a P-3C, and an IL-76. The first two would be from the Shah's era, the Russian transport more current.

PeteS in CA · « **Reply #157 on:** **Today** at 02:58:41 pm »

Quote from: bigheadfred on Today at 02:07:03 pm

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/2036866124130992369

Since Iran is circulating supposed pics of a downed A-10, B-2, F-22, and F-35 along with Kalashnikov-waving men approximately the same height as the "planes", take this claim with a mountain-sized block of salt. The US almost immediately announced the downings of three F-15Es (friendly fire), the crash of a KC-135 and damaging of another in a mid-air collision, and an F-35 being damaged by Iran and having to land at a nearby base, so I do not think the US would cover up the loss of an F/A-18.

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #158 on:** **Today** at 03:00:17 pm »

I don't give a bleep about this war, frankly. One way or the other. Seems like entertainment to me.

jafo2010 · « **Reply #159 on:** **Today** at 03:15:07 pm »

My problem with the way we wage war today is that we do not have a focus on killing the enemy. Everything is precision munitions to destroy assets only. Utterly foolish!

During WWII, we killed uniform and civilian enemy. Admiral William Halsey said it best in 1943. 'The only good Jap civilian, is a Jap civilian that has been dead for six months or more.' This sentiment should apply to ALL CONFLICTS we engage in.

ONLY WHEN WE KILL SUFFICIENT NUMBERS OF THE ENEMY WILL IT BREAK THEIR WILL TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT. Therefore, the current mentality of fighting this engagement is self defeating. In a nation with 90 million people, we are NOT doing what is necessary to have them UNCONDITIONALLY SURRENDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mystery-ak · « **Reply #160 on:** **Today** at 03:15:37 pm »

Quote from: Polly Ticks on Today at 09:13:57 am

Also, does Fred ever sleep?

I don't think so...

jafo2010 · « **Reply #161 on:** **Today** at 03:23:21 pm »

To put it in perspective, Germany in 1939, with all the lands they acquired by that date, had a population of 79.4 million. Iran is larger! Germany came close to seizing the entirety of Europe, parts of Africa, etc. Taking on a nation of 90 million people with the intent of killing as few as possible is totally moronic!!!

Iran has always been deceptive, with everything they do. If we are intending to totally destroy their military might, we have to resolve killing large numbers of their people in the areas the IRGC is strong.

And in the end, not deploying boots on the ground is not an option. If you want to win any war, it requires boots on the ground, unless you intend to nuke them! And we know that will not happen.

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #162 on:** **Today** at 03:25:07 pm »

Quote from: jafo2010 on Today at 03:15:07 pm

My problem with the way we wage war today is that we do not have a focus on killing the enemy. Everything is precision munitions to destroy assets only. Utterly foolish!

During WWII, we killed uniform and civilian enemy. Admiral William Halsey said it best in 1943. 'The only good Jap civilian, is a Jap civilian that has been dead for six months or more.' This sentiment should apply to ALL CONFLICTS we engage in.

ONLY WHEN WE KILL SUFFICIENT NUMBERS OF THE ENEMY WILL IT BREAK THEIR WILL TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT. Therefore, the current mentality of fighting this engagement is self defeating. In a nation with 90 million people, we are NOT doing what is necessary to have them UNCONDITIONALLY SURRENDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is just to entertain the Fox news folks.

jafo2010 · « **Reply #163 on:** **Today** at 03:49:48 pm »

Entertain Fox News folks?

Nonsense! When you go to war, you better be prepared to kill the enemy in large quantities. And with a nation that has such ideological control over the nation as Iran does, waging war against them with no intention on killing large quantities of the enemy is just plain idiocy.

BTW, I haven't watched Fox News in a long time!!

Tehran should look like Gaza, but it is largely intact, because we are targeting military installations only. This will not have the Iranians agreeing to anything!!! Trump is making the same mistake as Putin did with Ukraine. The will of the leadership in Iran will be to wait until the pressure on US leadership to end the war forces the Trump Administration to cease all efforts in Iran. The only way to accomplish victory in Iran is to destroy the country, and we are not doing that!

Weird Tolkienish Figure · « **Reply #164 on:** **Today** at 03:55:21 pm »

Quote from: jafo2010 on Today at 03:49:48 pm

Entertain Fox News folks?

Nonsense! When you go to war, you better be prepared to kill the enemy in large quantities. And with a nation that has such ideological control over the nation as Iran does, waging war against them with no intention on killing large quantities of the enemy is just plain idiocy.

BTW, I haven't watched Fox News in a long time!!

Tehran should look like Gaza, but it is largely intact, because we are targeting military installations only. This will not have the Iranians agreeing to anything!!! Trump is making the same mistake as Putin did with Ukraine. The will of the leadership in Iran will be to wait until the pressure on US leadership to end the war forces the Trump Administration to cease all efforts in Iran. The only way to accomplish victory in Iran is to destroy the country, and we are not doing that!

Look at the effects: big explosions, memes, activity by "conservatives" on X. And the detractors react predictably idiotic, so more materiel.

BobfromWB · « **Reply #165 on:** **Today** at 03:56:33 pm »

Quote from: libertybele on Today at 12:29:39 pm

....curious how you know this information -- or what 'source' you are relying on @BobfromWB ?

Reading. You could too.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #166 on:** **Today** at 03:58:21 pm »

Quote from: jafo2010 on Today at 03:49:48 pm

Entertain Fox News folks?

Nonsense! When you go to war, you better be prepared to kill the enemy in large quantities. And with a nation that has such ideological control over the nation as Iran does, waging war against them with no intention on killing large quantities of the enemy is just plain idiocy.

BTW, I haven't watched Fox News in a long time!!

Tehran should look like Gaza, but it is largely intact, because we are targeting military installations only. This will not have the Iranians agreeing to anything!!! Trump is making the same mistake as Putin did with Ukraine. The will of the leadership in Iran will be to wait until the pressure on US leadership to end the war forces the Trump Administration to cease all efforts in Iran. The only way to accomplish victory in Iran is to destroy the country, and we are not doing that!

There are the Persians, and the controlling theocracy of 12er Muslims who took over in 1979. It is the latter we want to destroy, and that is only part of the people in Iran. If we can remove the cancer of that theocracy from power, we return Iran to the Iranians, and end the reign of terror sponsored by those Mullahs. Before their takeover, we had good enough relations with the Shah and Iran to sell them F-14s, the cutting edge air superiority fighter of its day. After that, spares even were embargoed and that fleet fell into disrepair.

For the most part (and I refer to people cheering military targets being hit) the Iranian people who protested in the streets (and many ended up dead for that), it is not the Iranian People who are the enemy, but the 12er Shiites who have been holding them in an Iron grip.

If we can save the village without destroying it, let's do so.

And flood the missile complexes with CO2. Then, air them out and clean them out, and collapse them from the inside after a couple of weeks/months.

BobfromWB · « **Reply #167 on:** **Today** at 03:58:24 pm »

Quote from: Idiot on Today at 12:33:16 pm

Look at a Google Earth shot of the island. It's not very large at all. It even has a Dollar General. The U.S. needs to warn all residents to leave before it's totally leveled.

You are the only one saying the island will be attacked and totally leveled - like you are in on the military planning. Are you?

DCPatriot · « **Reply #168 on:** **Today** at 03:59:04 pm »

Quote from: jafo2010 on Today at 03:49:48 pm

Entertain Fox News folks?

Nonsense! When you go to war, you better be prepared to kill the enemy in large quantities. And with a nation that has such ideological control over the nation as Iran does, waging war against them with no intention on killing large quantities of the enemy is just plain idiocy.

BTW, I haven't watched Fox News in a long time!!

Tehran should look like Gaza, but it is largely intact, because we are targeting military installations only. This will not have the Iranians agreeing to anything!!! Trump is making the same mistake as Putin did with Ukraine. The will of the leadership in Iran will be to wait until the pressure on US leadership to end the war forces the Trump Administration to cease all efforts in Iran. The only way to accomplish victory in Iran is to destroy the country, and we are not doing that!

I catch maybe the 1st twenty minutes of The Ingraham Angle...and usually the same amount of time on Gutfeld at ten o'clock.

Other than than...get my news here or on WMAL talk radio which has a Conservative bent.

BobfromWB · « **Reply #169 on:** **Today** at 03:59:51 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on Today at 12:45:46 pm

That's the way the report read...

Poor reporting. Not my fault - just correcting the obvious mistake.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #170 on:** **Today** at 04:07:34 pm »

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/2036855377946345764

BobfromWB · « **Reply #171 on:** **Today** at 04:07:58 pm »

Quote from: libertybele on Today at 01:31:09 pm

???local Mossad agent????

mystery-ak · « **Reply #172 on:** **Today** at 04:09:02 pm »

https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/2036897344067624999

mystery-ak · « **Reply #173 on:** **Today** at 04:10:30 pm »

https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/2036869967837036718

BobfromWB · « **Reply #174 on:** **Today** at 04:12:56 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on Today at 02:06:09 pm

Rep. Nancy Mace
@RepNancyMace
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Just walked out of a House Armed Services briefing on Iran. Let me repeat: I will not support troops on the ground in Iran, even more so after this briefing.

Nancy seems to think combat troops are for parades ...

DB · « **Reply #175 on:** **Today** at 04:15:09 pm »

Tehran Bob?

mystery-ak · « **Reply #176 on:** **Today** at 04:15:52 pm »

https://twitter.com/TousiTVOfficial/status/2036893416592674925

BobfromWB · « **Reply #177 on:** **Today** at 04:17:07 pm »

Quote from: bigheadfred on Today at 02:07:03 pm

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/2036866124130992369

Pilot seems to take no evasive maneuvers nor release any chafe

mystery-ak · « **Reply #178 on:** **Today** at 04:17:09 pm »

Tell it to the Marines you POS

https://twitter.com/GlobalIJournal/status/2036839800024584665

BobfromWB · « **Reply #179 on:** **Today** at 04:19:26 pm »

Quote from: PeteS in CA on Today at 02:21:44 pm

Oz has significant petroleum production in the Dampier Peninsula (near Broome and Derby) and the Michell Plateau, and Indonesia, just north of Oz, is a major oil producer. Why is oil availability a problem in Oz?

maybe domestic production does not meet demand? Or its a refinery problem?

bigheadfred · « **Reply #180 on:** **Today** at 04:20:50 pm »

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/2036876373076128113

bigheadfred · « **Reply #181 on:** **Today** at 04:22:04 pm »

Imtiaz Mahmood
@ImtiazMadmood
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The Islamic regime has confirmed the death-sentence of 18 year old Melika Azizi was carried earlier today. Melika was arrested in January 2026 during nation-wide protests and charged with "moharebeh" (waging war against god for allegedly burning Islamic regime symbols.

In court, Melika told the judge: "You let so many young people bleed. How can I remain silent? I don't care just kill me"

She was a brave young lady!

BobfromWB · « **Reply #182 on:** **Today** at 04:22:35 pm »

Quote from: Fishrrman on Today at 02:39:05 pm

Unless we control Kharg Island AND the Straits after all this is over...
... we will have accomplished NOTHING.

We must establish "leverage" which can be held against iran in the future.
Stop being a rogue country, or... we will starve you out.

Again... I predict that anything less is going to lead to MAJOR disappointments, perhaps sooner, perhaps later.

"Victory" always carries a price.
What is that price here?
Are we willing to pay?
Or instead, will we just call it a day...?

Sorry if you don't care for this reply...

47 is hot on the trail of the last option ... publicly.

bigheadfred · « **Reply #183 on:** **Today** at 04:22:53 pm »

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/2036892771521311191

bigheadfred · « **Reply #184 on:** **Today** at 04:24:02 pm »

The Spectator Index
@spectatorindex
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BREAKING: Trump rejected Netanyahu's proposal to call for uprising in Iran, saying 'Why the hell should we tell people to take to the streets when they'll just get mowed down', according to Axios report.