Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]

[mountaineer]

They seem to believe we weren't paying attention, but alas we really did notice that Biden was a drooling vegetable and Blinken was an impotent eunuch when it came to matters of state.

[Smokin Joe]

Newsom Marks Hostage Deal by Mocking Trump, Netanyahu as ‘Dumb and Dumber’; Deletes Post

California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), whose official “@GovPressOffice” account has been posting increasingly vicious attacks on President Donald Trump, crossed a line Tuesday by mocking the release of Israeli hostages.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2025/10/14/newsom-marks-hostage-deal-by-mocking-trump-netanyahu-as-dumb-and-dumber-deletes-post/

This from the sh*tbird who can't broker peace in Compton.

[Smokin Joe]

Mark Hamill Shares Hoax ‘Occupy Democrats’ Meme Claiming Trump’s Gaza Peace Deal Was Stolen from Biden

‘Star Wars’ actor Mark Hamill jumped to social media to push the conspiracy theory that Trump’s Middle East peace deal was”stolen” from Biden

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/10/14/mark-hamill-shares-hoax-occupy-democrats-meme-claiming-trumps-gaza-peace-deal-was-stolen-from-biden/

Master Luke has gone over to the Dark Side...

[Smokin Joe]

NBC’s Andrea Mitchell roasted for crediting Biden for Gaza peace deal
By Ariel Zilber   
Published Oct. 14, 2025, 4:00 p.m. ET

NBC News veteran Andrea Mitchell was scorched online after she appeared to credit the Biden administration for the Gaza peace deal brokered by President Donald Trump.

The 78-year-old host thanked former Secretary of State Antony Blinken for his work “creating the basis for the agreement once the two sides were finally prepared to compromise – we hope!” — a message that many read as giving the Biden team credit for Trump’s breakthrough.

“Thank you for spending two years working toward this moment,” Mitchell wrote Monday on X in a reply to a post by Blinken.

https://nypost.com/2025/10/14/media/nbcs-andrea-mitchell-roasted-for-crediting-biden-for-gaza-peace-deal/

Andrea, YGBSM.

Wild Weasel drivers get that, it's on the patch,

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1977792357564309950

[240B]

Israel's fury grows as Hamas holds onto 20 dead hostages - and raging Donald Trump orders them to disarm or he will... 'violently'

Daily Mail
By TARYN KAUR PEDLER
14 October 2025



Fury is spreading across Israel as Hamas clings on to 20 dead hostages, despite the US president threatening to 'violently' disarm them.

The terror group handed over four bodies on Tuesday night - but relatives of hostages still in its clutches took to the streets in Tel Aviv to call for the return of their loved ones. 

It came just hours after the first hostages handed back on Monday as part of the Gaza ceasefire deal were named as Guy Iluz, 26, Bipin Joshi, 33, Yossi Sharabi, 54, and Daniel Peretz, 22.

On Tuesday night Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed that the remains of four more hostages had been returned.

'All the families of the hostages have been updated on the matter, and in this difficult hour, our hearts are with them,' Netanyahu said.

'The effort to bring back our hostages continues relentlessly and will not stop until the last hostage is returned.'

The International Committee of the Red Cross says it facilitated the transfer of the four deceased hostages to Israel and the bodies of 45 Palestinians to Gaza today.

'These operations were carried out in line with the ceasefire agreement, and it is crucial that the parties and mediators ensure the agreement is faithfully upheld,' it said.

Julian Lerisson, the head of the Red Cross in the region, says the organisation is 'prepared to fulfil our role for as long as it takes'.

(more)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15192495/Hamas-hands-bodies-Israeli-hostages-Donald-Trump-threatened-violently-disarm-terror-group-did-not-return-remains-grieving-families.html

(from the article)
She emphasized that Trump's agreement is not a peace deal, but a shaky ceasefire with terrorists which was only in its initial phase. Much is unresolved.

Pollack-David says Hamas has already shown signs of defiance, including using psychological tactics to maintain a sense of control.

She says Hamas called the parents of these hostages and let them speak to their loved ones , because they wanted to let them know they maintain control over them.

'I don't expect Hamas to come out in the next few days or months waving a white flag. They will do whatever they can to survive, and they're already playing these tricks,' the Netanyahu insider said.

She added, 'What they do next could blow up the whole deal.'

This is a breaking news story. More to follow.

[berdie]

They seem to believe we weren't paying attention, but alas we really did notice that Biden was a drooling vegetable and Blinken was an impotent eunuch when it came to matters of state.

Very eloquently stated. Far better than I could have.

[berdie]

I have a new peace deal that I have developed.

1. One last warning to Hamas that if compliance with previous terms aren't met no deal exists any longer.
2. Bombs away. Complete the initial mission.
3. Repeat as necessary.

A deadline was already set. No need to set another.

[Bigun]

I have a new peace deal that I have developed.

1. One last warning to Hamas that if compliance with previous terms aren't met no deal exists any longer.
2. Bombs away. Complete the initial mission.
3. Repeat as necessary.

A deadline was already set. No need to set another.

 

[Canuck Conservative]

I'd guess that at least part of the reason why Hamas won't release the dead hostages is because autopsies will reveal signs of sexual abuse, torture, and deliberate murder.

[Smokin Joe]

I'd guess that at least part of the reason why Hamas won't release the dead hostages is because autopsies will reveal signs of sexual abuse, torture, and deliberate murder.

My bet is that they are trying to reduce them to degraded skeletal remains which will provide little clear evidence of evil.

[Kamaji]

I'd guess that at least part of the reason why Hamas won't release the dead hostages is because autopsies will reveal signs of sexual abuse, torture, and deliberate murder.

Most likely.

[Hoodat]

My bet is that they are trying to reduce them to degraded skeletal remains which will provide little clear evidence of evil.

Hamas already got caught passing off Palestinian corpses for Israeli ones.  My guess is that they have very few intact remains of any Israelis they murdered.   They essentially admitted this days ago when they refrained from accepting this listed item.

[libertybele]

Hamas already got caught passing off Palestinian corpses for Israeli ones.  My guess is that they have very few intact remains of any Israelis they murdered.   They essentially admitted this days ago when they refrained from accepting this listed item.

The SOB's  -- it doesn't surprise me.

[libertybele]

I have a new peace deal that I have developed.

1. One last warning to Hamas that if compliance with previous terms aren't met no deal exists any longer.
2. Bombs away. Complete the initial mission.
3. Repeat as necessary.

A deadline was already set. No need to set another.

 

[Hoodat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoXD9SpNqms

[DB]

https://twitter.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1977792357564309950

There is only one reason Hamas gave up its hostages. Iran was neutered and removed from the area leaving Hamas hung out to dry.

None of that would have happened with Biden's crew in power.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Sources Familiar With Gaza Cease-fire Talks Say Discussions Over the Trump Plan's Second Stage Have Begun
Haaretz, Oct 14, 2025


Excavators in Gaza City remove debris on Tuesday


[...]

However, as of Tuesday night, only eight bodies out of 28 are likely in Israeli custody, with four currently positively identified as hostages and four unidentified. A foreign diplomat involved in the Israel-Gaza cease-fire talks told Haaretz that currently there is "no crisis" between Israel and Hamas regarding hostages' bodies.

"Israel took into account that there would be difficulty in locating some of the bodies under the rubble when it signed the agreement," he said.

Even if discussions on the second stage produce no agreements with Hamas and Israel resumes fighting in areas under its control, the Trump framework obliges Israel to gradually transfer territory cleared of Palestinian militants to a future international administration.

In the coming days, the parties will likely discuss how to maintain the cease-fire. They'll also discuss the establishment of a technocratic Palestinian administration responsible for public services, and a "peace council" headed by Trump and former U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair, which will handle reconstruction efforts in Gaza.

Another central topic is the mechanism for disarming Hamas and demilitarizing the Strip, and how the parties will monitor and enforce its implementation.

The U.S. is also expected to push for the Palestinian Authority to eventually take over Gaza's administration, a move which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has spoken against. Under the Trump framework, the Palestinian Authority would assume control only after completing comprehensive reforms and meeting criteria set by the parties to confirm compliance.

At the same time, the U.S. and Arab states plan to establish a temporary law enforcement agency, known as the International Stabilization Force, to be deployed immediately in Gaza. It would train and support authorized Palestinian police and carry out security duties, including along the borders with Israel and Egypt, in coordination with Palestinian forces.


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-10-15/ty-article/.premium/talks-over-the-gaza-trump-plans-second-stage-have-begun/00000199-e4cc-d7e9-adfd-ffef08f60000.

[txradioguy]

Just throwing this into the discussion...let's not forget that the roughly 1300 prisoners Israel is having to swap for the 20 living hostages and the remains of the others...are Hamas fighters.

And you'd have to have a Biden level IQ to not know what they're gonna do once they are back in Gaza.

[Timber Rattler]

Master Luke has gone over to the Dark Side...

He joined the Sith a long time ago.  His Twitter feed is toxic.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Let it rain fire in Gaza.

Hamas' human shields are returning 'home' to provide cover for remaining Hamas miltary installations, personnel, and materiel.

[txradioguy]

H/t Katie Pavlich

[GtHawk]

This from the sh*tbird who can't broker peace in Compton.

Piece is brokered nightly on many a corner in Compton, but it’s not surprising Noisome can’t broker any.

[GtHawk]

Master Luke has gone over to the Dark Side...

Dumbass Luke has always been on the dark side of real life. It’s not surprising that someone who’s entire life has been about fantasy has difficulty discerning it from reality.

[verga]

I have a new peace deal that I have developed.

1. One last warning to Hamas that if compliance with previous terms aren't met no deal exists any longer.
2. Bombs away. Complete the initial mission.
3. Repeat as necessary.

A deadline was already set. No need to set another.

On another thread i said, let the carpet bombing begin. I think Trump need to show the leaders of Hamas that we know exactly where they are hiding and can pinpoint it with a predator drone strike in seconds.

[Wingnut]

On another thread i said, let the carpet bombing begin. I think Trump need to show the leaders of Hamas that we know exactly where they are hiding and can pinpoint it with a predator drone strike in seconds.

Those 8th century Muzzies have never seen a real show of force outside of Camel shit fights in the desert. I say we fly several B-52's over Gaz and drop pamphlets saying, "Next time it won't be paper."

[Right_in_Virginia]

Egypt says Israel and Hamas approved Palestinian team tapped to govern postwar Gaza
Times of Israel, 14 October 2025, 11:33 pm


Displaced Palestinians walk past destroyed buildings as they return to their homes in
the al-Zahra area on October 14, 2025.

As efforts ramp up to plan for the reconstruction of war-torn Gaza at the end of a grueling two-year war, Egyptian Foreign Minister Badr Abdelatty told The Associated Press that 15 Palestinian technocrats have been selected to administer postwar Gaza.

He said their names were already vetted by Israel, without disclosing them.

“We need to deploy them to take care of the daily life of the people in Gaza, and the Board of Peace should support and supervise the flow of finance and money, which will come for the reconstruction of Gaza,” he said, referring to a board that would govern Gaza and be chaired by US President Donald Trump.

Abdelatty said on Monday, ahead of a global summit on Gaza’s future held in Egypt’s Sharm el-Sheikh, that the 15-member committee had already been approved by all Palestinian factions, including Hamas.

He said Hamas members welcomed Trump’s plan. They “have no role in the transitional period. They are committed to that. That is why they are working on an administrative Palestinian committee to be deployed in order to take care of the daily life of the people of Gaza,” Abdelatty claimed.

For its part, Israel has to comply with a withdrawal from Gaza, allowing a flow of aid and the deployment of the administrative committee on the ground to ensure security for civilians, Abdelatty said. Hamas also must honor its commitments, he said.

Meanwhile, a UN official said Tuesday that European and Arab nations, Canada, and the US appear willing to contribute to the estimated $70 billion needed to rebuild Gaza.

Since a ceasefire deal came into effect in Gaza, large numbers of Palestinians have returned to the ruins of their homes in the coastal territory.

Huge swaths of Gaza have been reduced to a wasteland by Israeli bombardment over two years, with UNDP saying it had already cleared some 81,000 tons of rubble from the Gaza Strip and was continuing to do so.


More:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-says-israel-and-hamas-approved-palestinian-team-tapped-to-oversee-post-war-gaza/

[Right_in_Virginia]

CNN Updates
Oct 15, 2025
3 hr 55 min ago
Ibrahim Dahman

Hamas' military wing says it has handed over all hostage bodies it can access


Palestinians walk through the ruins of destroyed buildings in the Al-Nafaq neighborhood of Gaza City on Sunday, after a
cease-fire took effect


Hamas’ military wing said on Wednesday that “significant efforts and special equipment” are needed to recover the bodies of the remaining Israeli hostages in Gaza.

Al-Qassam Brigades said in a statement that it has “abided by what was agreed upon, and has handed over all the living captives in its possession and the corpses it could access.”

Under the ceasefire agreement, Hamas was supposed to return all of the living and deceased hostages within the first 72 hours. However, the group has handed over only seven of the remaining 28 deceased hostages.

While Israel was aware that not all of the deceased hostages would be returned by the deadline on Monday, a source told CNN that Israeli leadership has become frustrated over the slow pace and is considering several options if the delays continue.

Two years of war have caused significant destruction across the Gaza Strip, potentially making the search for bodies difficult. As CNN reported last week, Israel has assessed that Hamas may not be able to find and return all the remaining dead hostages in Gaza.

But fury has been growing in Israel over how few of the deceased hostages have been returned by Hamas. Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz called the lack of progress “a failure to uphold commitments.”


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-gaza-ceasefire-deal-hostages-10-15-25.

[Right_in_Virginia]

CNN Updates
Oct 15, 2025
1 hr 1 min ago
Kevin Liptak

US doesn't believe Hamas has violated ceasefire by failing to produce remains of hostages

The US does not believe Hamas is violating its commitments to President Donald Trump’s ceasefire agreement by failing to produce the remains of former hostages held in Gaza, two senior US advisers said Wednesday.

Instead, the US is actively working through mediators to provide intelligence and logistical support to locate the remaining bodies, which in many cases could be buried under rubble and debris left behind after two years of war.

The advisers said they were confident Hamas would honor its commitments, and said they had received assurances from the group — through third-party mediators — that they would do everything possible to locate and return the remaining bodies.

"We’ve heard a lot of people saying, well, you know, Hamas violated the deal because not all the bodies have been returned. I think the understanding we had with them was we get all the live hostage hostages out, which they did honor that,” one of the US advisers said. “And right now, we have a mechanism in place where we’re working closely with the mediators and with them to do our best to get as many bodies out as possible.”

The US advisers said countries in the region were offering help in locating the remains, including Turkey, which has offered a team of body-retrieval experts with expertise in locating remains left behind in earthquakes.

The US is also considering offering monetary rewards for information that could lead to the recovery of additional bodies.

Ultimately, the 72-hour deadline spelled out in the arrangement for all bodies to be located and retrieved would have been difficult for Hamas to meet, one of the advisers said.

“In a 72 hour ceasefire period, I think it would have been almost impossible for Hamas to mobilize, even if they knew where all the 28 bodies were, to mobilize and get them home,” the second adviser said.

In conversations with the Israelis, the US has asked for as much intelligence as possible on how to best locate the bodies which can be passed on to Hamas to locate them, the first adviser said.


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-gaza-ceasefire-deal-hostages-10-15-25.

[Hoodat]

.  .  .  two senior US advisers said  .  .  .

lol.  Typical CNN.

[berdie]

I can see where it might be difficult to locate the remains within the time frame...so I'll cut a little slack there.

However, Hamas has not disarmed, as far as I can tell.

Both things are important, however, to me, the latter is more important. After that is achieved (or Hamas is decimated) the rest will follow.

[Right_in_Virginia]

BBC
Oct 15, 2025

<snip>

Senior US advisors providing an update on the implementation of the 20-point peace plan said that the US government did not so far believe Hamas had broken the agreement by not retrieving the remains of remaining deceased hostages.

The advisors argued that Hamas had acted in good faith by returning the live hostages and was working with various interlocutors to find and return the remains of hostages.

Hamas's armed wing said in a statement "the remaining bodies require significant efforts and specialised equipment to search for and retrieve, and we are making a great effort to close this file".


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3w9py9940go

[Right_in_Virginia]

I can see where it might be difficult to locate the remains within the time frame...so I'll cut a little slack there.

However, Hamas has not disarmed, as far as I can tell.

Both things are important, however, to me, the latter is more important. After that is achieved (or Hamas is decimated) the rest will follow.

See Replies #517 and #556 ⬆️.  Second stage negotiations are underway @berdie   They're moving ...... 

[Hoodat]

Israel receives remains of 2 more hostages as military says another body was not that of a hostage

Sam Metz, Samy Magdy And Wafaa Shurafa  |  about 4 hours ago

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel received the remains of two more hostages Wednesday, hours after the Israeli military said that one of the bodies previously turned over was not that of a hostage. The confusion added to tensions over the fragile truce that has paused the two-year war.

The coffins carrying the remains were transferred by the Red Cross from Hamas. Upon returning to Israel, they were sent to a forensic lab in Tel Aviv. The military in a statement cautioned that the hostages’ identities had yet to be verified.

Meanwhile, the Gaza Health Ministry said it received 45 more bodies of Palestinians from Israel, another step in implementation of the ceasefire agreement. That brought to 90 the total number of bodies returned to Gaza for burial. The forensics team examining the remains said they showed signs of mistreatment.

As part of the deal, four bodies of hostages were handed over by Hamas on Tuesday, following four on Monday that were returned hours after the last 20 living hostages were released from Gaza. In all, Israel has been awaiting the return of the bodies of 28 hostages.

The Israeli military said forensic testing showed that "the fourth body handed over to Israel by Hamas does not match any of the hostages." There was no immediate word on whose body it was.  .  .  .

.  .  .  .  This is not the first time Hamas has returned a wrong body to Israel. During a previous ceasefire, the group said it handed over the bodies of Shiri Bibas and her two sons, who were among those taken in Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on Israel, in which some 1,200 people were killed and 251 abducted.

Testing in February 2025 showed that one of the bodies returned was identified as a Palestinian woman. Bibas’ body was returned a day later.  .  .

https://www.torontotoday.ca/world-news/israel-receives-remains-of-2-more-hostages-as-military-says-another-body-was-not-that-of-a-hostage-11348448

[verga]

Those 8th century Muzzies have never seen a real show of force outside of Camel shit fights in the desert. I say we fly several B-52's over Gaz and drop pamphlets saying, "Next time it won't be paper."

@Wingnut generally I agree with you, but they have had plenty of warning and have been supplying Hamas for years with material support. 

[txradioguy]

@Wingnut generally I agree with you, but they have had plenty of warning and have been supplying Hamas for years with material support.

The thing is...and it's not just unique to Hamas in that part of the world.  They only react to and respect strength and force.

The diplomats can yak at each other the live long day...but unless you're got a gun (real or figurative) pointed at the collective head of Hamas...al Qaeda...the Taliban...Iran etc  they aren't going to do what you are asking of them.

Went through that on a smaller scale multiple times in my deployments to Somalia Iraq and Afghanistan.

[verga]

The thing is...and it's not just unique to Hamas in that part of the world.  They only react to and respect strength and force.

The diplomats can yak at each other the live long day...but unless you're got a gun (real or figurative) pointed at the collective head of Hamas...al Qaeda...the Taliban...Iran etc  they aren't going to do what you are asking of them.

Went through that on a smaller scale multiple times in my deployments to Somalia Iraq and Afghanistan.

Like I said let the carpet bombing begin! 3-4 days of relentless bombing will turn change their hearts to our way of thinking.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Hamas is not unique.  They are criminals and thugs using Iranian money, arms, and training to trick Gazans into believing that Hamas is a liberation organization and militia.

You'd think with all the weapons proliferated in Gaza that some Gazans would take it upon themselves to go Death Wish / Dirty Harry on Hamas 'soldiers'.