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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #300 on: October 10, 2025, 08:52:55 am »
IDF Pulls Back to Ceasefire Positions as Trump Agreement Takes Effect

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) pulled troops out of Gaza and withdrew to agreed ceasefire lines within the territory as a ceasefire with Hamas brokered by U.S. President Donald Trump took effect on Friday morning.

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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #301 on: October 10, 2025, 09:11:25 am »
As long as we don't have an ROE that forces us to react with one arm tied behind our backs when Hamas comes at us (and they WILL come at us)...I have no problem with this.

Good point, which brings up the question *under whose command would our troops be under*...?
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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #302 on: October 10, 2025, 09:41:29 am »
Good point, which brings up the question *under whose command would our troops be under*...?

We have the Multinational Force and Observers Battalion from the 101st already over in the Sinai.

If it were me...I'd detail the troops for Gaza from that unit and put them under U.S. command.
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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #303 on: October 10, 2025, 10:05:36 am »
We have the Multinational Force and Observers Battalion from the 101st already over in the Sinai.

If it were me...I'd detail the troops for Gaza from that unit and put them under U.S. command.
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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #304 on: October 10, 2025, 10:52:56 am »





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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #305 on: October 10, 2025, 12:24:50 pm »
Hudna

Hamas publishes “God, let the ceasefire be like the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah—followed by conquest, like the conquest of Mecca.”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/10/hudna.php

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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #306 on: October 10, 2025, 12:36:19 pm »
Hudna

Hamas publishes “God, let the ceasefire be like the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah—followed by conquest, like the conquest of Mecca.”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/10/hudna.php

Statement = exhibit B to prove that peace is impossible with these insane, inbreds. (Exhibit A being Oct 7th, 2023)
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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #308 on: October 10, 2025, 05:17:51 pm »
US sends CENTCOM troops to Israel for Trump-brokered Hamas ceasefire monitoring
Service members to establish civil military command center
By Brie Stimson , Jennifer Griffin , James Levinson Fox News
Published October 10, 2025 5:00pm EDT

U.S. service members will arrive in Israel by Sunday to oversee the implementation of the ceasefire with Hamas, Fox News has learned.

The U.S. troops, all of whom come from the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM), will set up the civil military command center as the ceasefire unfolds, a senior U.S. official said.

Some of the service members are coming from the U.S. and some were already in the region. Most are with the Army.

They are experts in logistics, security, engineering and transportation.

None of the troops will be going into Gaza.

Navy Adm. Brad Cooper, head of CENTCOM, attended talks in Sharm El-Sheikh, Egypt, with U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and former White House advisor and President Donald Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, a U.S. official confirmed.

Cooper then flew to Israel and is currently in the country.

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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #309 on: October 10, 2025, 05:21:18 pm »
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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #311 on: October 10, 2025, 08:44:35 pm »
Biden says Trump stole his plan for the cease fire between Israel/Hamas....looking for the story..


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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #312 on: October 10, 2025, 09:09:26 pm »
I do not believe any of this. The hostages will not be 'released'. Hamas will never end, without ultimate force. Any 'peace deal' with Hamas will be a farce.

It is death or nothing for these maniacs. There is and never will be any 'peace'.
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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #313 on: October 10, 2025, 09:19:35 pm »
Biden says Trump stole his plan for the cease fire between Israel/Hamas....looking for the story..


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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #314 on: October 10, 2025, 09:27:31 pm »
I do not believe any of this. The hostages will not be 'released'. Hamas will never end, without ultimate force. Any 'peace deal' with Hamas will be a farce.

It is death or nothing for these maniacs. There is and never will be any 'peace'.
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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #315 on: October 10, 2025, 09:48:21 pm »
I do not believe any of this. The hostages will not be 'released'. Hamas will never end, without ultimate force. Any 'peace deal' with Hamas will be a farce.

It is death or nothing for these maniacs. There is and never will be any 'peace'.

I am also distrustful. Hamas is sure the hostages are the only reason Israel doesn't just wipe them out, so they won't release them, and Israel will fulfill their suspicions. This blows up before early next week.  Back to square one.
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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #316 on: October 10, 2025, 11:10:56 pm »
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Trump promised not to let Israel break Gaza ceasefire to get deal
Axios, Oct 10, 2025

As negotiations for a Gaza peace deal approached the finish line, President Trump provided a personal guarantee he wouldn't let Israel abandon it and resume the war, two U.S. officials revealed in a briefing with reporters.

Why it matters: Trump's assurances were a key factor in convincing Hamas to take the deal, the sources say. The ceasefire is now officially in effect after Israel's cabinet approved the deal early Friday morning local time.

* The officials said that part of Trump's guarantee was the establishment of a U.S.-led military task force to oversee the ceasefire and address any violations.

The intrigue: A U.S. official told Axios one factor in the breakthrough was that "Hamas had started to see the hostages as a liability rather than an asset" in terms of its future negotiating position.

* With that in mind, the U.S. side came into this week's talks believing Hamas was now ready to free the hostages, and that they could ensure the Israelis stuck to their side of the bargain.


More:  https://www.axios.com/2025/10/10/trump-gaza-israel-hamas-ceasefire-enforce

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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
« Reply #317 on: October 10, 2025, 11:33:49 pm »
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Haaretz Updates
Oct 10, 2025
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Here are the latest updates from day 735 of the war:

■ U.S. President Donald Trump said hostages held by Hamas in Gaza are expected to "come back" on Monday. Speaking from the White House, he said there are "approximately 28 bodies" among the hostages. Trump also said he expects to travel to Cairo and speak to the Israeli Knesset before returning to the U.S. on Tuesday.

■ U.S. President Trump plans to convene a summit on Gaza with world leaders during his visit to Egypt next week, with representatives expected from Germany, France, the U.K., Italy, Qatar, UAE, Jordan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Indonesia.

■ Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine announced in a joint statement that they will proceed with the Gaza cease-fire and hostage deal despite Israel's refusal to release many senior prisoners.

■ Humanitarian aid and essential supplies, including fuel and gas, are expected to begin entering Gaza on Saturday, according to a senior Hamas source. The Rafah Crossing is reportedly scheduled to open for civilian passage in both directions in the middle of next week.

■ Approximately 250,000 displaced Palestinians have returned to Gaza City since the cease-fire took effect, the Gaza Strip Civil Defense spokesman told Al Jazeera.

■ German Chancellor Friedrich Merz spoke with Egypt's President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, praising Egypt's role in brokering the Gaza cease-fire and promising continued German support for hostages' release, humanitarian aid, and

■ Thousands gathered in Tel Aviv's Hostage Square for a Shabbat dinner organized by hostage families. Einav Zangauker, mother of one of the hostages, said, "Our struggle is not over until all 48 hostages are brought home, and our soldiers return safely to the State of Israel."

■ UNICEF confirmed that two of 18 newborns from a North Gaza hospital were evacuated and reunited with their parents in southern Gaza.


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-10-10/ty-article-live/idf-combat-soldier-michael-mordechai-nachmani-26-killed-in-northern-gaza/00000199-cbf6-dd44-ab99-ebf7d72b0000

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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
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How Trump secured a Gaza breakthrough which eluded Biden
BBC, Oct 10, 2025

At the time, Israel's air strike against the Hamas negotiating team in Qatar seemed like yet another escalation that pushed the prospect of peace further away.

The attack on 9 September violated the sovereignty of an American ally and risked expanding the conflict into a region-wide war.

Diplomacy appeared to be in ruins.

Instead it turned out to be a key moment that has led to a deal, announced by President Donald Trump, to release all remaining hostages.

This is a goal that he, and President Joe Biden before him, had sought for nearly two years.

It is just the first step towards a more durable peace, and the details of Hamas disarmament, Gaza governance and full Israeli withdrawal remain to be negotiated.

But if this agreement holds, it could be Trump's signature achievement of his second term - one that eluded Biden and his diplomatic team.

Trump's unique style and crucial relationships with Israel and the Arab world appear to have contributed to this breakthrough.

A close relationship that Biden never had

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Those public demonstrations of support may have given Trump the room to exert more pressure on Israel behind the scenes. According to reports, Trump's negotiator, Steve Witkoff, browbeat Netanyahu in late 2024 into accepting a temporary ceasefire in exchange for the release of some hostages.

When Israel launched strikes against Syrian forces in July, including bombing a Christian church, Trump pressured Netanyahu to change course.

Trump exhibited a degree of will and pressure on an Israeli prime minister that is virtually unprecedented, says Aaron David Miller of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "There is no example of an American president literally telling an Israeli prime minister that you're going to have to comply or else." [...]

The Israeli missile attack in Doha, which killed a Qatari citizen but no Hamas officials, prompted Trump to issue an ultimatum to Netanyahu. The war had to stop.

Trump had given Israel a relatively free hand in Gaza. He lent American military might to Israel's campaign in Iran. But an attack on Qatar soil was a different matter entirely, moving him towards the Arab position on how best to end the war.

Several Trump officials have told the BBC's US partner CBS this was a turning point which galvanised the president to exert maximum pressure to get a peace [...]

Less than a month after that Israeli strike on Doha, Trump sat nearby as Netanyahu personally phoned Qatar to apologise. And later that day, the Israeli leader signed off on Trump's 20-point peace plan for Gaza - one that also had the backing of key Muslim nations in the region.

If Trump's relationship with Netanyahu gave him the room to pressure Israel to strike a deal, his history with Muslim leaders may have secured their support, and helped them convince Hamas to commit to the deal.

"One of the things that clearly happened was that President Trump developed leverage with the Israelis, and indirectly with Hamas," says Jon Alterman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).

"That made a difference. His ability to do this on his timing, and not succumb to the desires of the combatants has been a problem that lot of previous presidents have struggled with, and he seems to do relatively successfully."


More:  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj3yke64vp6o

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Re: Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]
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As the War in Gaza Comes to a Close, Netanyahu Needs to Resign Over the October 7 Massacres
Haaretz, Oct 10, 2025, Nehemia Shtrasler

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This week is also a special week because of two anniversaries – the Yom Kippur War of 1973 and the October 7 war. Both were difficult wars characterized by an erroneous idee fixe and a horrific surprise.

On October 6, 1973, I had been demobilized from the army following a long term of service in the Sinai Peninsula. I was certain back then that Egypt would never succeed in crossing the Suez Canal, and that the war would be over in a day or two. After all, Prime Minister Golda Meir had said just that week that "our situation has never been better," and the heads of the army had said the canal was the best anti-tank barrier in the world.

The chief culprit in the surprise attack was the head of Military Intelligence, Eli Zeira. He developed the idea that Egypt wouldn't go to war as long as it had no answer to Israel's supremacy in the air.

The same thing happened in the October 7 war. Military Intelligence Director Aharon Haliva (who has since resigned) was the chief culprit in Hamas' surprise attack. He, too, developed an idee fixe – that Hamas had transitioned to worrying about economic development rather than war. In his great arrogance, he gave up on running agents in Gaza, ignored suspicious signs and easily fell into Hamas' web of deceit.

In both cases, our intelligence agencies failed in their primary mission – providing early warning of attacks. But such failures are unavoidable. Intelligence agencies always build a concept and then defend it, while ignoring anything that contradicts it.

But in the political realm, the difference between these two wars is enormous. While Meir set up a state commission of inquiry, accepted responsibility and resigned less than a year after the war began, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has clung to power. He refuses to recognize his own responsibility and blames the IDF, the Shin Bet security service and everyone else in the world. He himself is pure as the driven snow.

Meir said that she wasn't a military expert, and therefore, needed the experts' advice. Netanyahu, in contrast, has proclaimed himself "Mr. Security," someone who understands the field better than anyone else. Consequently, he bears greater responsibility.

He also played a significant role in developing Military Intelligence's erroneous concept. He disseminated the fairy tale that Hamas was deterred and wouldn't attack us. He even let it receive suitcases full of cash from Qatar, which it used to buy weapons that were used against us.

The war that began in 2023 was the worst since 1973. Following the shocking massacre in southern Israel, Netanyahu dragged us into the longest war in our history and turned Israel into a boycotted pariah state whose economy is in danger. If Meir resigned, it's simply not possible for the most despicable man in the history of the Jewish people to remain in office.


https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2025-10-10/ty-article-opinion/.premium/now-netanyahu-needs-to-resign-over-october-7/00000199-ca5a-dd44-ab99-eb5f36010000.