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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1150 on: September 21, 2025, 03:56:15 pm »
Google AI said this: "The Soviet military alone suffered over 8.8 to 10.7 million deaths, while the United States lost about 416,800 soldiers, and the United Kingdom lost around 383,600."

That puts the total about 800,000 for the allies, not counting free French, South Africans, Australians, Indians, and others, unless the English Commonwealth nation totals were added in and the reason for the difference in our numbers in the UK total Google gave.

The point I was making is simply that the Soviets lost (roughly) ten times the number of troops we did in the conflict. At least some of that difference can be attributed to tactics dictated from the top which considered their soldiers expendable.

The Soviet Union:
WWII Combat deaths: 26,400,000 -  Sokolov
WWII Civilian deaths: 24,000,000 - Korol
Murdered by Stalin: 1917-1987 = 61,911,000
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« Reply #1151 on: September 21, 2025, 04:05:55 pm »
The Soviet Union:
WWII Combat deaths: 26,400,000 -  Sokolov
WWII Civilian deaths: 24,000,000 - Korol
Murdered by Stalin: 1917-1987 = 61,911,000

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1152 on: September 21, 2025, 05:10:12 pm »
The Soviet Union:
WWII Combat deaths: 26,400,000 -  Sokolov
WWII Civilian deaths: 24,000,000 - Korol
Murdered by Stalin: 1917-1987 = 61,911,000


And yet, Stalin and the Soviet Union are idolized by many, including people in this country.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1153 on: September 21, 2025, 05:49:26 pm »

And yet, Stalin and the Soviet Union are idolized by many, including people in this country.

The Russian people have always been ruled by a strong leader and would have it no other way. Russia is not the West where human life is valued. Americans who idolize the Man of Steel are fools, idiots, and are insufferably stupid.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1154 on: September 21, 2025, 10:53:31 pm »
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According to Russian media, Colonel General Alexander Lapin has been dismissed from military service and will become an aide to the head of Tatarstan Rustam Minnikhanov.
https://t.me/rbc_news/131212
https://m.business-gazeta.ru/news/683338



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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1155 on: September 21, 2025, 10:55:48 pm »
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« Reply #1156 on: September 21, 2025, 11:04:02 pm »
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« Reply #1157 on: September 21, 2025, 11:05:37 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1163 on: September 21, 2025, 11:22:09 pm »
Russian military meltdown as top general goes on 'drinking binge' as Putin eyes purge

The general has increasingly come under fire for the poor performance of the army, which has struggled to meet any of the Kremlin's goals

John Varga  |  Sep 21, 2025  |  20:48 ET


Russia's top military leadership is reportedly in chaos, with rumors of a looming purge of high-ranking officers and claims that the army chief has turned to alcohol.

Valery Gerasimov, the current head of Russia's General Staff and the commander of all Kremlin forces in Ukraine, is under scrutiny. The general has been increasingly criticized for the army's poor performance, which has failed to achieve any of the Kremlin's objectives.

In late August, the army leader attempted to highlight his troops' accomplishments, bragging about significant victories across eastern and southern Ukraine during their summer offensive.

He mentioned thousands of square kilometers of newly conquered territory, nearly 150 captured settlements, and an almost complete encirclement of Kupiansk, a crucial town in the Kharkiv region.

However, independent evaluations tell a different story. A mix of Western analysts, Ukrainian officials, and even pro-Russian military bloggers suggest that progress has been much less impressive than the General's assertions.

They all note that any gains have come at a tremendous cost in both soldiers' lives and equipment.

The Kremlin leader now seems to be losing patience with his military chief and is preparing to implement drastic changes in his armed forces. The Telegram Channel General SVR alleges that Putin is ready to purge the upper echelons of his army command in a significant reshuffle.

"There will soon be a change in the leadership of the military bloc," they wrote. "It remains unclear whether the current Russian Minister of Defence will retain his post or be transferred to another, equally important position.

"There will be some reshuffles within the Ministry of Defence, but this will be a breeze compared to what awaits the General Staff.  .  .  .

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1167 on: September 21, 2025, 11:32:44 pm »
Outgoing MI6 chief says Putin has ‘bitten off more than he can chew’ in Ukraine

Richard Moore says Russia is unlikely to win on battlefield as his agency launched call to recruit spies

Ruth Michaelson  |  19 Sep 2025  |  08.19 EDT


The outgoing head of MI6 has issued a damning indictment of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, saying that Vladimir Putin has “bitten off more than he can chew”.

Richard Moore, known within MI6 as C, used his farewell speech in Istanbul to say that while Russia was unlikely to win on the battlefield, his agency was seeking to recruit spies inside Russia and worldwide in order to fight back.

“Putin has sought to convince the world that Russian victory is inevitable, but he lies. He lies to the world. He lies to his people. Perhaps he even lies to himself,” said Moore. “But we should not believe him. Or credit him with strength he does not have.”

Any Russian victories on the battlefield remained incremental, said Moore, and incurred massive costs as the president’s army fell far short of its original aims to swiftly capture all of Ukraine.

The rising costs now included more than a million casualties – a quarter of them “poorly trained troops from Russia’s poorest regions” that were “fed into the meat grinder”, he said.  .  .  .

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1168 on: September 22, 2025, 04:22:31 am »
"There will be some reshuffles within the Ministry of Defence, but this will be a breeze compared to what awaits the General Staff..."

I like the way Putin is impatient and keeps reshuffling the top leadership ... never giving them a chance to succeed

He's like those meddling sports-teams owners who always change coaches because they're impatient to win, but with the constant changes, the new leadership never gets a chance to fully implement their plans, so they're always doomed to fail

Same with Ukraine ... Putin's constant meddling & incompetence are some of the main reasons why a country only 1/15 of Russia's size is still able to hold off a superpower, after more than 3 1/2 years!

We look forward to more Russian failures, LOL ... Slava Ukraini!!
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1169 on: September 22, 2025, 05:09:23 am »
Screw google AI. I use historical published numbers from various sources like Eckhardt, Urlanis, Britannica, Encarta, Sokolov, Korol, etc.

You are entitled to use GIGO, if you think its a better fit, but your point is lost using AI GIGO.
Oh, I admit to being lazy and not tracking down the individual sources and really accurate numbers. My bad. No, I don't consider anything AI to be an impeccable source, but I cited it and used the numbers to present the crude order of magnitude of the difference between western and Soviet combatant casualties. Because civilian casualties under Stalin were not combat casualties per se, i did not include them. If you want, for his total kill tally, don't forget to roll in the 3.9 to 7 million Ukrainians killed (murdered) in the Holodomor. If I was Ukrainian, that alone would be plenty reason to resist ever being under Russian domination ever again.

It still does not mute my point that the Soviets lost over ten times as many troops as the other allies combined in WWII. We have no numbers as to how many of those were shot in the back or for trying to retreat, at the behest of their own commanders.

Nor does it change the current (Soviet) Russian propensity for the same tactics of throwing enough meat at a problem to use up the other side's ammo. When you really don't give a damn about your people, you don't bother to train and equip them well, and you throw them away.

If you want to get into who the most lethal leaders have been, Stalin is certainly up there, along with Mao (~50 Million)  and Planned Parenthood (~60 million since Roe).  Then we have COVID...
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1170 on: September 22, 2025, 07:37:39 am »
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According to Russian media, Colonel General Alexander Lapin has been dismissed from military service and will become an aide to the head of Tatarstan Rustam Minnikhanov.
https://t.me/rbc_news/131212
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4 4 4 Colonel-General Alexander Lapin has been dismissed from military service, Colonel-General Yevgeny Nikiforov has been appointed commander of the Leningrad Military District, a source familiar with the personnel decision told RBC. The colonel-General will be appointed assistant to the head of Tatarstan, Tatar-inform reported without specifying the source of the information. In 2022, Lapin commanded the Central Military District and the Center group.

Later, he was transferred to the post of Chief of the General Staff, First Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces, then commanded the troops of the Leningrad Military District and headed the North group. Under his leadership, troops in this area fought for Volchansk, were engaged in defense and further liberation of the Kursk region.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1171 on: September 22, 2025, 07:47:57 am »

If you want to get into who the most lethal leaders have been, Stalin is certainly up there, along with Mao (~50 Million)  and Planned Parenthood (~60 million since Roe).  Then we have COVID...


Mao by starvation:
1958-1961 = 38,000,000

Mao by murder:
1923-1949 =   3,466,000
1949-1987 = 35,236,000

Total:
1923-1987 = 76,702,000


Murdered by Stalin:
1917-1987 = 61,911,000


PP still has a ways to go


Islam = >265,000,000
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1172 on: September 22, 2025, 08:09:34 am »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, September 21, 2025

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Russia has reportedly been forming a strategic reserve from new recruits since July 2025. A Russian insider source that has consistently provided accurate reports about changes in the Russian military command stated on September 21 that roughly 292,000 people signed contracts with the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) between the start of 2025 and September 15 - an average of approximately 7,900 recruits per week or 31,600 per month.

The insider source stated that some of these recruits are joining the strategic reserve that Russia has been forming since early July 2025. The source did not specify how many recruits are going to the strategic reserve as opposed to the frontline in Ukraine.


The Russian military command may have assessed that Russia could afford to create a strategic reserve after Russian losses began to decrease in the summer of 2025. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Russia suffered roughly 32,000 to 48,000 casualties per month between January and July 2025 - more casualties than the average reported monthly recruitment rate.

The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Russia suffered roughly 29,000 casualties in August 2025 and 13,000 casualties in the first half of September 2025 - the only months so far in 2025 with casualty rates below the average reported recruitment rate.

ISW recently assessed that Russian territorial gains were less costly in May to August 2025, compared to the spring of 2025, as Russian forces sustained a lower casualty rate per square kilometer seized.

The reduced casualty rates in Summer 2025 may have convinced the Russian military command that Russia could afford to transfer some new recruits to a strategic reserve while still maintaining the tempo of offensive operations on the frontline in Ukraine.

Changes in Russian tactics on the battlefield in the past few months likely contributed in part to the reduced casualty rates. Russian forces have been conducting assaults in smaller infantry groups and are increasingly employing small group infiltration tactics that seek to find and exploit weaknesses and holes in Ukraine’s undermanned defenses.

The formation of the strategic reserve may indicate that the Russian military command assesses that Russian forces will be able to continue their current rate of advance using these small group tactics that allow the Russian command to deploy fewer personnel to the frontline.


Reports that Russia is creating a strategic reserve further indicate that the Kremlin is not interested in ending its war against Ukraine but remains committed to achieving its war goals on the battlefield and may be preparing for a conflict with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). Russian President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly put forward a theory of victory that assumes that Russian forces will be able to make slow, creeping advances on the battlefield indefinitely, enabling Russia to win a war of attrition against Ukraine.

The reported decision to create a strategic reserve and not deploy all new recruits to the frontline, indicates that Putin and the Russian military command are content with the current rate of advance, even though Russian forces continue to only advance at a foot pace.

The reported creation of a strategic reserve suggests that Russia plans to escalate offensive operations in Ukraine in the near-to-medium term rather than end the war. Russia may also be building out its strategic reserve as part of wider Kremlin preparations for a possible Russia-NATO conflict in the future, particularly as Russia intensifies its youth military-patriotic programs that aim to recruit Russian youth into the military in the years to come.


Russia continues to test the limits of NATO’s air defenses over the Baltic Sea as Russia increases the frequency of its violations of NATO states’ airspace. The German Air Force reported on September 21 that NATO tasked the German Air Force with scrambling two German Eurofighters to intercept an unidentified aircraft without a flight plan or radio contact in international airspace over the Baltic Sea.

German forces later visually identified the plane as a Russian IL-20M reconnaissance aircraft. The German Air Force did not specify where over the Baltic Sea the incident occurred. Russia’s violation of standard operating procedures in international airspace is the latest in a string of aerial incursions into NATO territory since the Russian drone incursion into Polish airspace on the night of September 9 to 10 ...

ISW continues to assess that Russia is pursuing an aggressive campaign to test NATO air defenses and political will as part of a broader effort to collect actionable intelligence that Russia may then apply to a potential future conflict against NATO.


Russian forces continue to develop drone technologies to increase the volume and precision of strikes against the Ukrainian near rear to further complicate Ukrainian logistics. A Kremlin-affiliated Russian milblogger claimed on September 21 that Russian forces developed fiber optic first-person view (FPV) repeater drones that could potentially quadruple the range of frontline drones. Russia’s fiber optic drones are resistant to Ukrainian electronic warfare (EW) interference, and repeater drones contain a radio repeater that extends communication signals by acting as a relay station.

Russian drone operators may leverage the fiber optic repeater drones to protect other Russian drones from Ukrainian EW interference and increase the viability and precision of strikes against Ukraine’s near rear. The milblogger claimed that the newly developed fiber optic repeater drones can fly 50 to 60 kilometers, while traditional fiber optic drones are only able to fly 25 to 30 kilometers. Russia’s use of the longer-range repeater drones would allow Russian forces to strike more precisely and deeper into the Ukrainian near rear, particularly along ground lines of communication (GLOCs), further complicating Ukrainian frontline logistics. [ The US does not even have small FVP fiber-optic drones, let alone repeater drones. DOD way behind the curve. ]

Russian milbloggers claimed on September 21 that Russian forces have created a “kill zone” (an area immediately near the frontline where a mass of tactical strike and reconnaissance drones pose an elevated risk to any equipment or personnel that enters that area) that extends roughly 45 kilometers from the frontline in both the Vovchansk and Kupyansk directions.

Ukrainian 11th Army Corps (AC) Spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Dmytro Zaporozhets stated in a September 20 Wall Street Journal (WSJ) article that Russian forces are now systemically targeting Ukrainian logistics routes, depots, roads, and evacuation routes, but that Russian strikes of this nature were infrequent in 2024 ...


The Kremlin reportedly dismissed former Northern Group of Forces and Leningrad Military District (LMD) Commander Colonel General Alexander Lapin from military service. Russian outlet RBK reported on September 21 that a source stated that Russian authorities dismissed Lapin from military service ... sources stated that Lapin would serve as an assistant to Republic of Tatarstan Head Rustem Minnikhanov, but that the Kremlin has not published an official decree on the appointment yet ... The Republic of Tatarstan is the main recruitment hub for the Russian Ministry of Defense’s (MoD) Africa Corps and is home to Russian domestic drone production at the Alabuga Special Economic Zone ...

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) confirmed in August 2025 that it replaced Lapin as the LMD and Northern Grouping of Forces commander with Chief of Staff of the Russian Ground Forces Colonel General Yevgeny Nikiforov.


Lapin has proven to be an incompetent commander throughout the war against Ukraine, but the Kremlin is likely punishing Lapin now as part of its ongoing campaign to scapegoat and punish high ranking officials for their failure to repel Ukraine’s incursion into Kursk Oblast in August 2024 ... Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov and deceased Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin were both highly critical of Lapin’s failures in Kharkiv Oblast in October 2022, accusing the Russian military command of failing to promptly respond to the deteriorating situation around Lyman.

Kadyrov’s and Prigozhin’s criticisms were especially noteworthy, as Putin and his mouthpieces had been extremely tight-lipped about the performance of military commanders or their replacements. Lapin also commanded the Northern Grouping of Forces when Ukraine launched its incursion into Kursk Oblast ... Lapin’s dismissal from military service is likely part of the Kremlin’s wider efforts to scapegoat and punish Russian authorities who failed to prevent Ukraine’s Kursk incursion. Russian authorities have detained and charged several high-ranking regional officials in Kursk, Bryansk, and Belgorod oblasts with mishandling the construction of defensive fortifications in Russia’s border areas.

The Kremlin notably did not punish Lapin for his numerous operational failures in Ukraine, but is likely choosing to punish him now over his failure to protect Russian territory.

https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-21-2025/
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Re: Ukraine 7
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #1176 on: September 22, 2025, 01:01:30 pm »
Oh, I admit to being lazy and not tracking down the individual sources and really accurate numbers. My bad. No, I don't consider anything AI to be an impeccable source, but I cited it and used the numbers to present the crude order of magnitude of the difference between western and Soviet combatant casualties. Because civilian casualties under Stalin were not combat casualties per se, i did not include them. If you want, for his total kill tally, don't forget to roll in the 3.9 to 7 million Ukrainians killed (murdered) in the Holodomor. If I was Ukrainian, that alone would be plenty reason to resist ever being under Russian domination ever again.

It still does not mute my point that the Soviets lost over ten times as many troops as the other allies combined in WWII. We have no numbers as to how many of those were shot in the back or for trying to retreat, at the behest of their own commanders.

Nor does it change the current (Soviet) Russian propensity for the same tactics of throwing enough meat at a problem to use up the other side's ammo. When you really don't give a damn about your people, you don't bother to train and equip them well, and you throw them away.

If you want to get into who the most lethal leaders have been, Stalin is certainly up there, along with Mao (~50 Million)  and Planned Parenthood (~60 million since Roe).  Then we have COVID...

How many victims of crime (gang shootings etc) in blue areas in the states?

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« Reply #1177 on: September 22, 2025, 08:59:51 pm »
How many victims of crime (gang shootings etc) in blue areas in the states?
I don't know.  :shrug:
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« Reply #1178 on: September 22, 2025, 09:37:33 pm »
Russia presses global aviation gathering to ease sanctions over safety concerns

Gleb Stolyarov and Allison Lampert  |  September 22, 2025  |  9:06 AM EDT


Sept 22 (Reuters) - Russia is urging aviation leaders gathering this week in Montreal to ease sanctions on spare parts and overflights, dismissing a largely global response to the war in Ukraine as "unlawful coercive measures," according to working papers and a source familiar with the matter.

Since Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Western sanctions have cut off access to foreign-made aircraft and spare parts, leaving Russian airlines to source parts for more than 700 mostly Airbus (AIR.PA), opens new tab and Boeing (BA.N), opens new tab jets on complex, indirect import routes.

Russian authorities are now trying to negotiate relief from sanctions, particularly on spare parts, which they say are critical for flight safety, a source in Russia's aviation sector told Reuters.

Russia is making a case to regulators and other delegates at the triennial assembly of the International Civil Aviation Organization which opens on Tuesday and runs through October 3.

The U.N.'s ICAO sets global safety standards for civil aviation and its council has condemned Moscow for violating Ukraine's airspace sovereignty and its dual registration of aircraft.

Russia made its request after the United States lifted sanctions on Belarusian state carrier Belavia last week that had been imposed following Minsk's support for Moscow in its invasion of Ukraine.

In working papers submitted before the assembly, Moscow said the sanctions run counter to global rules.  .  .  .

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What do "global rules" say about flooding your neighbor's airspace with drones for the express purpose of killing civilians?
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« Reply #1180 on: September 22, 2025, 09:46:31 pm »
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Russia lives in a pre-WW2 bubble whilst most other countries have matured, grown up and moved on.



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« Reply #1181 on: September 22, 2025, 09:48:03 pm »
Just like the Sudetenland was enough for Hitler.

Keep thinking that, Euro-trash socialist peaceniks.

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« Reply #1182 on: September 22, 2025, 09:49:30 pm »
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« Reply #1183 on: September 22, 2025, 09:54:02 pm »
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« Reply #1184 on: September 22, 2025, 09:56:34 pm »
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« Reply #1185 on: September 22, 2025, 10:03:29 pm »
Meanwhile, Russia continues using its military might on Ukrainian civilians:


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« Reply #1186 on: September 22, 2025, 10:05:59 pm »
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« Reply #1187 on: September 22, 2025, 10:09:15 pm »
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👀💥 Air defense facilities and military infrastructure were damaged in an attack on Sunday night in annexed Crimea.

On the night of September 21, military facilities were damaged in an attack on annexed Crimea, ASTRA reported.

Two drones struck a convoy of a mobile post of the 31st Air Defense Division near the village of Volochayevka and destroyed a radar installation.

Another drone exploded and damaged a Pantsir-S1 air defense missile and gun system near the village of Donskoye in the Simferopol District. One serviceman was also injured.

Furthermore, the barracks, club, training building, and canteen at a 31st Division position near the village of Vitino in the Saksky District were damaged in two strikes, presumably carried out by Neptune missiles.



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« Reply #1190 on: September 22, 2025, 10:49:42 pm »
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« Reply #1191 on: September 22, 2025, 11:02:13 pm »
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Russian soldiers shoot at civilian in Kupiansk, Kharkiv region

Nazar Hlamazda  -  22 September 2025  |  18:59


UKRAINE, KHARKIV OBLAST, Sep. 22 — At the beginning of September, in Kupiansk, Russian soldiers shot at a 74-year-old civilian man who was driving his bicycle, reported Kharkiv’s regional Prosecutor’s Office.

Russian troops intensified their offensive in Kupiansk this August: they are trying to encircle the city and, at the same time, keep attempting to transfer heavy equipment across the Oskil River north of the city.

Prosecutors’ Office said that Russian soldiers shot at a 74-year-old man when he drove his bicycle in Kupiansk. After being shot, the man fell onto the road and managed to hide in the reeds.

From the reeds, the injured man saw two soldiers in Russian uniform approaching the road.

Later, the man reached a neighboring street, receiving first aid from the locals.

Ukrainian soldiers helped him evacuate to Kharkiv for medical treatment the next day. During the operation, medics removed a bullet from a Kalashnikov rifle from the man’s leg.  .  .

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« Reply #1192 on: September 22, 2025, 11:53:23 pm »

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1970003515612279089

Functionally ~equivalent to a US P-3C and uglier that a PBY Catalina. These would have been useful in patrolling for Ukrainian sea drones.
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« Reply #1193 on: September 23, 2025, 03:07:52 pm »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, September 22, 2025

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Russian President Vladimir Putin announced on September 22 that Russia will adhere to the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (New START) for one year following its expiration in February 2026 and used threats to urge the United States to do the same. Putin claimed that Russia is prepared to continue to adhere to New START’s nuclear arms limitations for one year after it expires on February 5, 2026.

New START limits the number of deployed US and Russian strategic nuclear warheads and bombs to 1,550; the number of deployed intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs), and heavy bombers for nuclear missions to 700; and the number of deployed and non-deployed ICBM launchers, SLBM launchers, and bombers to 800.

New START went into effect in 2011, and Russia suspended its participation in the treaty in February 2023, claiming that the United States was developing new nuclear weapons.

Putin claimed that Russia will decide between continuing its “voluntary self-restraint” in February 2027. Putin called on Russian agencies to monitor US adherence to New START until then and threatened that Russia “will respond accordingly” ... completely abandoning New START would be a “mistake” and “short-sighted” ... Russia can respond to any threats “not with words but through military-technical measures.” Putin's veiled threats are the latest in Russia's nuclear saber rattling, a tool that the Kremlin often employs as part of its wider reflexive control campaign that aims to push the West to make decisions that benefit Russia.


Putin blamed the West for undermining Russian-US arms cooperation and violating bilateral arms agreements - ignoring how Russia has violated numerous multilateral and bilateral treaties in the past decades. Russia has violated multiple treaties since Putin first became president in 2000.

Russia exploited provisions of the Open Skies Treaty (which provided for mutual surveillance flights over member states’ territory) to collect imagery for intelligence purposes and instituted illegal overflight restrictions and airfield designations to legitimize Russia's occupation of Ukraine and Georgia. Russia suspended its adherence to the Conventional Forces in Europe (CFE) Treaty (which placed limits on the deployment of heavy military equipment in Europe) in 2007 and continues to violate the treaty by stationing troops in Georgia, Moldova, and Ukraine without these states’ consent ...

A 2020 State Department report noted that Russia “no longer feels bound” by the Presidential Nuclear Initiatives that the United States and Russia agreed to in the early 1990s on the non-deployment and elimination of Russia's arsenal of non-strategic nuclear weapons and that Russia maintained up to 2,000 such weapons in its stockpiles.

Russia has repeatedly violated the Chemical Weapons Convention (which prohibits the use of chemical weapons and the development, production, acquisition, and stockpiling of chemical weapons and their precursors) both on the battlefield in Ukraine and with its poisoning of political opponents in Europe; Russia has refused to fully declare its chemical weapons stockpiles and production and development facilities.

The State Department noted in response to Russia's suspension of its participation in New START in 2023 that Russia refused to comply with the treaty's requirements that the parties exchange data, including ICBM location and status updates and missile launch telemetry data; Russia denied US inspectors’ right to inspect ballistic missile sites in Russia.

The United States suspended its participation in the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty (which banned US and Russian ground-launched nuclear and conventional intermediate - and shorter-range missiles) in February 2019 due to Russian violations with its development, testing, and deployment of intermediate-range 9M729 (SSC-8) [ Novator ] missiles.

Russia has also used Oreshnik ballistic missiles (which reportedly have a range banned under the INF Treaty) against Ukraine in November 2024 and announced that the missile entered into service in August 2025.


Putin is attempting to pressure the Trump administration to engage in arms control talks to facilitate US-Russian rapprochement and extract concessions from the United States about the war in Ukraine, as ISW forecasted Russia would in August 2025 ... ISW continues to assess that the Kremlin is dangling the prospect of bilateral arms control talks in front of the United States to secure Russia's desired demands in Ukraine and deflect from Russia's responsibility for the lack of progress in Russia-Ukraine peace negotiations ...

Putin's September 22 statements aim to present himself as equal to US President Donald Trump and to present Russia as a global power comparable to the United States, and Putin has been trying to posture Russia as the heir of the Soviet Union's “superpower” status, since Trump assumed office in January 2025 ... to reinforce the Kremlin's false narrative that a Russian victory in Ukraine is inevitable, so Ukraine and the West should concede to Russia's maximalist demands now out of fear that Russian aggression will only worsen in the future.


Some Russian defense industrial enterprises are reportedly struggling to expand their production and work-forces due to economic constraints, while the Kremlin is prioritizing funding for high-priority enterprises such as drone and missile manufacturers. Russian opposition outlet Novaya Gazeta reported on September 22 that wages within the Russian defense industrial base (DIB) are declining for the first time during Russia's full-scale invasion and that expansion is slowing due to economic constraints ...

Russian DIB reached “saturation” in 2024, at which point the DIB’s need for new employees began to decline, and that many defense industrial enterprises need to build new production facilities, equip new production lines, and purchase more machine tools to expand production ... the Russian DIB is struggling to further expand, as current factories are already operating at capacity and cannot afford to build new factories and production lines ... current financial constraints and inflation issues are limiting Russia's ability to offer subsidized loans to all defense industrial enterprises, limiting the enterprises’ ability to increase production and hire new employees.


Novaya Gazeta reported that Russia is prioritizing directing funding toward the production of higher demand weapons, like drones and missiles, further restraining production within other defense industrial enterprises. Unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) manufacturers, such as Tactile Missile Weapons, Zaslon, Agregat, and Kalashnikov, are reportedly increasing salaries.

CIT reported that many defense industrial enterprises that produce lower priority products do not see the point in expanding production, including armored vehicle manufacturers, which are primarily repairing and modernizing vehicles, as Russia reduces its use of armored vehicles on the battlefield, and aircraft manufacturers, which are already able to replace Russian military aircraft losses. The Kremlin's prioritization of drone and missile manufacturers underscores the ways the Russian DIB is evolving to address Russia's needs on the battlefield.

ISW has previously assessed that Russia is increasing its domestic drone production while decreasing its frontline use of armored vehicles in Ukraine - in line with reports that the Kremlin is increasing funding to drone producers and not vehicle producers.

Russia's emphasis on building up the DIB throughout the war has, in part, led to many of Russia's current economic issues, such as inflation.

ISW continues to assess that the Russian government is over-prioritizing investment in the DIB at the expense of other sectors and that the Russian economy continues to flag under the weight of the war in Ukraine.


The United Nations (UN) reported that the number of casualties from Russian drone strikes targeting Ukrainian civilians has increased by 40% so far in 2025 as compared to 2024. UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine Head Erik Møse reported on September 22 that the commission found that Russian forces conducted strikes against Ukrainian civilians walking or using transport, residences, and critical infrastructure in Kherson, Dnipropetrovsk, and Mykolaiv oblasts since July 2024 ... Russian forces are systemically conducting “double tap” strikes against Ukrainian rescue workers responding to Russian strikes.

The commission concluded that Russia's deliberate drone strikes against civilians violate international law, amount to the crimes against humanity of murder and forcible population displacement, and are in accordance with a concerted state policy that aims to sow terror among the Ukrainian population.

ISW has observed numerous instances of Russian drone strikes and war crimes against civilians throughout 2025, and Ukrainian authorities have reported on numerous such instances in the past day alone. The Kharkiv Oblast Prosecutor's Office reported on September 22 that Russian forces shot and wounded an elderly civilian riding a bike in Kupyansk and wounded a civilian during a first-person view (FPV) drone strike against a civilian car in Borova ...


Ukrainian forces may have targeted high-ranking Russian officials in a reported strike against occupied Crimea on the night of September 21 to 22. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed on September 22 that Ukrainian forces struck a resort area in occupied Crimea, killing 2 and injuring 15 others. Crimean occupation head Sergey Aksyonov claimed on September 22 that Ukrainian forces struck a sanatorium in occupied Foros, Crimea. Several Russian sources reported that there was a closed-door private party at the sanatorium and that high-ranking Russian officials, possibly including military officials, were present at the time of the reported strike.

Ukrainian forces conducted a separate confirmed strike against a Russian airfield near occupied Kacha, Crimea. Ukraine's Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) reported on September 22, and geolocated footage confirmed, that it conducted a strike against occupied Crimea on the night of September 21 to 22. The GUR reported that it struck 2 Russian Beriev Be-12 maritime patrol aircraft and 1 Mi-8 helicopter.

https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-22-2025/
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« Reply #1195 on: September 23, 2025, 03:20:21 pm »
Ukrainian drones+missiles hit high value targets in Crimea. Yesterday, they destroyed key Russian radar installation and 3 military Mi-8 helicopters. Kyiv deployed its new "Flamingo" cruise missile to hit a Russian base. Financial losses of $50M for Putin - Sept 20 2025

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« Reply #1197 on: September 23, 2025, 03:29:28 pm »
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After getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation and, after seeing the Economic trouble it is causing Russia, I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form. With time, patience, and the financial support of Europe and, in particular, NATO, the original Borders from where this War started, is very much an option. Why not?

Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years a War that should have taken a Real Military Power less than a week to win. This is not distinguishing Russia.

In fact, it is very much making them look like “a paper tiger.” When the people living in Moscow, and all of the Great Cities, Towns, and Districts all throughout Russia, find out what is really going on with this War, the fact that it’s almost impossible for them to get Gasoline through the long lines that are being formed, and all of the other things that are taking place in their War Economy, where most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine, which has Great Spirit, and only getting better, Ukraine would be able to take back their Country in its original form and, who knows, maybe even go further than that!

Putin and Russia are in BIG Economic trouble, and this is the time for Ukraine to act. In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!

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« Reply #1198 on: September 23, 2025, 07:20:45 pm »
Ukrainian drones+missiles hit high value targets in Crimea. Yesterday, they destroyed key Russian radar installation and 3 military Mi-8 helicopters. Kyiv deployed its new "Flamingo" cruise missile to hit a Russian base. Financial losses of $50M for Putin - Sept 20 2025
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The Mi-8 is a 1960s vintage utility helicopter - transport and cargo. It's too good at what it does to reinvent the wheel. What this strikes, though, is complicate transport in the Crimea area.
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« Reply #1199 on: September 23, 2025, 08:34:47 pm »
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The Russian stock market sharply turned red amid statements by Zelensky and Trump. Shit is coming.



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