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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #600 on: August 20, 2025, 02:19:05 pm »
Kremlin snuffbox/Кремлевская табакерка, Aug 20 2025


Saldo, the Kherson governor, called Moscow and asked:
is it true that the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions will be given to Ukraine?

A source in the Kremlin told us about this. According to him, there were many rumors surrounding the negotiations on the Ukrainian crisis. And they scared the Kherson governor.

"Saldo called and said that there are strange conversations going on among local officials in the Kherson region. They say that Vladimir Vladimirovich needs the DPR and LPR, and the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions will be given to Ukraine. This issue is being actively discussed there. He was told that this is nonsense. And we will still win back Kherson someday. And Zaporizhia. The SVO, thank God, is not ending [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6068 ]," the channel's interlocutor reported.

As far as we know, similar concerns were expressed by the head of the Zaporizhia region, Yevgeny Balitsky.

In addition, a source close to General Mikhail Teplinsky noted that rumors about the possible “surrender” of the Kherson and Zaporizhzhya regions in exchange for the entire DPR have also appeared among the military at the front.

"We are fighting this nonsense, but it is already having a negative effect on the morale of the military. Why fight for the Kherson region if it can be given to the enemy? I would like Vladimir Vladimirovich or at least the Minister of Defense to personally deny the rumors about the surrender of the regions. Otherwise, there will be problems," the channel's interlocutor warned.

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #601 on: August 20, 2025, 10:46:19 pm »
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The Kremlin is seeking the demilitarization of Ukraine, a ban on joining NATO, and a change of government. According to a report by the Institute for the Study of War, Moscow still aims to remove the democratically elected leadership and replace it with a pro-Russian one in order to gain full political control over the country.

https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-19-2025

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #602 on: August 20, 2025, 10:47:12 pm »
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Polish media report that an object resembling a Russian Shahed drone has crashed in Lublin Voivodeship. Locals saw a bright flash in the sky and heard a powerful explosion, with windows blown out in nearby houses. As evidence, a crater formed at the crash site in a cornfield, and among the debris scattered over dozens of meters, something resembling a propeller was found.
https://lukow.tv/artykul/niezidentyfikowany-obiekt-n1769072

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #603 on: August 20, 2025, 10:47:49 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #604 on: August 20, 2025, 10:48:56 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #605 on: August 20, 2025, 10:53:00 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #606 on: August 20, 2025, 10:55:12 pm »
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #607 on: August 20, 2025, 10:57:42 pm »
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The situation of the Druzhba pipeline is actually far worse. Last night NASA FIRMS confirmed that the hub and pump station in Novonikolske, Tambov region, in Russia was burning. Satellite pictures show that large parts of the facility are completely destroyed.

Together with the successful strikes against two Druzhba pump stations in the Bryansk region it is obvious that the entire Druzhba pipeline from the Tambov region in Russia all the way to the west is rendered inoperative for quite some time.

The operation was conducted by the Ukrainian 14th UAV regiment.



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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #608 on: August 20, 2025, 10:59:50 pm »
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Lavrov believes that Finland prospered thanks to Russia.

Some numbers:

◾️Finland:
GDP per capita: $54,160
Average salary: $4,701
Average pension: $2,449

◾️Russia:
GDP per capita: $14,260
Average salary: $616
Average pension: $214

https://x.com/i/status/1958198808908615719

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #609 on: August 20, 2025, 11:04:15 pm »
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #610 on: August 20, 2025, 11:17:11 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #611 on: August 20, 2025, 11:18:21 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #612 on: August 20, 2025, 11:22:47 pm »
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‼️ The Russian business elite is tired of the war and understands that it is time to end it, - The Economist.

“No one cares how it ends, as long as it ends. Putin can sell anything as a victory,” said a representative of big Russian business.

In addition, the data of opinion polls are cited, where 60% of Russians are in favor of peace negotiations.

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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #613 on: August 20, 2025, 11:30:19 pm »
Fuel Shortages Hit Russia’s Far East as Ukrainian Strikes Take Refineries Offline

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Russia’s Far East is facing growing gasoline shortages after a wave of Ukrainian drone strikes knocked out a significant share of the country’s oil refining capacity, leaving drivers waiting in long lines and stations rationing fuel.

Russia has lost roughly 13% of its oil-refining capacity since early August as Ukrainian drones have hit at least seven Russian refineries, forcing four to shut down completely.

Motorists in the Primorye region started reporting supply problems in early August. The shortages have since spread, with fuel disappearing from pumps in towns including Arsenyev, Ussuriysk and the Chuguyevsky district before reaching the port city of Vladivostok itself, the local outlet PrimaMedia reported.

The disruption has snarled traffic on the Ussuri federal highway which connects Primorye with the neighboring Khabarovsk region, with long lines of cars forming at gas stations along the highway, the news site DVhab reported.

Residents said they can only buy fuel using ration cards, and only emergency services or company vehicles with special fuel cards are being reliably supplied.

“The pumps are covered with ‘Out of order’ signs,” one driver told the outlet. “You can still fill up in larger towns, but the lines are an hour and a half to two hours long.”

Regional media said the problems partially stem from a seasonal surge in demand during the tourist season, just as several refineries slashed shipments to the Far East — in some cases by as much as fivefold.

A separate bottleneck has emerged on the Russian Railways network, where fuel trains bound for Vladivostok have been delayed for up to two weeks.

Local authorities acknowledged delays but played down the scale of the crisis, attributing the shortages to summer demand and roadworks that slowed deliveries.

“Fuel reserves at the region’s gas stations remain sufficient to ensure uninterrupted supply,” the Primorye regional government said in a statement.

The shortages follow similar crises reported last week in annexed Crimea and the Far East Zabaikalsky region, where gasoline is now sold by coupons.

Sergei Aksyonov, the Kremlin-installed head of Crimea, publicly acknowledged the problem and linked it to reduced refinery output, urging residents to “be patient until the end of the special military operation.”

The supply crunch caused by the refinery shutdowns has sent wholesale gasoline prices to record highs.

On Tuesday, benchmark A-92 fuel traded at 71,970 rubles ($900, according to spot foreign exchange market data published by Reuters) per ton and A-95 at 81,337 rubles ($1,015) per ton on the St. Petersburg exchange — increases of about 40 and 50%, respectively, since the start of the year.  .  .

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/08/20/fuel-shortages-hit-russias-far-east-as-ukrainian-strikes-take-refineries-offline-a90300
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #614 on: August 20, 2025, 11:40:51 pm »
NOS News • yesterday, 16:57 • Updated yesterday, 17:23

Three hundred Dutch soldiers with Patriots to Poland for NATO mission Ukraine


Three hundred Dutch soldiers will be deployed to Poland with air defense and anti-drone systems starting December 1 to protect the delivery of military equipment for Ukraine against Russian attacks. This involves two Patriot systems that will be deployed by NATO.

"We do this to protect the eastern flank of NATO, an important military hub to defend Ukraine and to deter and further discourage the Russians," said the outgoing minister Brekelmans to NOS.

With this, the Netherlands, together with partners, provides "layered air defense" against potential threats from ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, fighter jets, helicopters, and drones.

The air defense in that place has been in place for a long time and is carried out by different countries. The Dutch contribution lasts until at least the end of May. Brekelmans had already announced last month that the Netherlands will also make a 'substantial' contribution to the delivery of Patriots to Ukraine itself.

No ''boots on the ground''

The operation is separate from the safety guarantees for and in Ukraine that were discussed in recent days as part of the negotiations for peace.

Brekelmans emphasizes that the Patriots involve an operation in Poland and that the deployment of the three hundred soldiers does not mean boots on the ground in Ukraine. The defense systems are not used to fend off attacks on Ukrainian territory.  .  .

https://nos.nl/artikel/2579293-driehonderd-nederlandse-militairen-met-patriots-naar-polen-voor-navo-missie-oekraine
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #615 on: August 21, 2025, 07:42:36 am »
Fuel Shortages Hit Russia’s Far East as Ukrainian Strikes Take Refineries Offline

12 hours ago


Russia’s Far East is facing growing gasoline shortages after a wave of Ukrainian drone strikes knocked out a significant share of the country’s oil refining capacity, leaving drivers waiting in long lines and stations rationing fuel.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/08/20/fuel-shortages-hit-russias-far-east-as-ukrainian-strikes-take-refineries-offline-a90300

Russians just adore waiting in lines because it reminds them of the glory days of the USSR.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #616 on: August 21, 2025, 08:59:26 am »
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, August 20, 2025

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The Kremlin is demanding that Russia have a veto over any Western security guarantees for Ukraine in an effort to undermine ongoing US, European, and Ukrainian efforts to establish conditions for lasting peace in Ukraine. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stated on August 20 that any serious discussions on Western security guarantees for Ukraine without Russian input are a “road to nowhere” and that Russia “cannot agree” that now-proposed “collective security issues” can be resolved without Russia, effectively demanding a Russian veto over Western security guarantees for Ukraine.

Lavrov also threatened that Russia will take “firm and harsh” action to ensure that Russia's “legitimate interests” are a part of any postwar security arrangement for Ukraine.


The Kremlin is likely trying to inject its demands into the ongoing US, European, and Ukrainian joint effort to create a security structure that will serve as a safeguard against a future Russian re-invasion in the event of a peace settlement ...


European leaders recently released a joint statement reaffirming that no peace agreement should place limitations on Ukraine's armed forces or on its cooperation with third countries nor can Russia have veto power over Ukraine's pathway to joining the European Union (EU) or NATO. European Commission Vice President Kaja Kallas stated on August 19 that Russian President Vladimir Putin cannot be trusted to honor any promises or commitments to permanently cease military activity against Ukraine and that any security guarantees must be robust and credible to deter the Russian military command does not re-group and launch a future invasion of Ukraine ...

The security guarantees proposed in the draft 2022 Istanbul Protocol treated Russia as a neutral security “guarantor state” of Ukraine along with the other permanent members of the UN Security Council, failing to identify Russia as a belligerent in the war. The outlined security guarantees would give China and Russia veto power over any action the guarantors could take in response to a renewed Russian attack by granting the UN Security Council the authority to take “measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.”

Such “security guarantees” would allow the Kremlin and its allies to dictate the means and tools that Ukraine could use to defend itself against Russia and restrict the ability of other guarantor states to come to Ukraine's assistance.


The Kremlin is continuing to indicate that Russian President Vladimir Putin is unwilling to have an immediate bilateral meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on the timeline proposed by US President Donald Trump ...


The Russian economy continues to face budget deficits as a result of increased defense spending and detrimental effects of Western sanctions and secondary tariffs ... Reuters reported that Russia spends over 17 trillion rubles (roughly $211 billion) or 41 percent of its federal budget on its defense and national security ... Reuters reported that Russia spends over 17 trillion rubles (roughly $211 billion) or 41 percent of its federal budget on its defense and national security ...


Secondary tariffs are likely forcing Russia to sell oil below market price, which could be decreasing the incoming flow of foreign funds into the Russian economy and depleting Russia's primary source of wealth  ... The promotion of younger officials connected to the war effort is consistent with Putin's February 2024 announcement that he is forming a new elite out of veterans and committed supporters of the war effort.


https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-20-2025
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #617 on: August 21, 2025, 10:25:42 am »
Anything short of Ukraine being a vassal state of Russia, like Belarus, will be unacceptable to the Kremlin.

The Ukraine War was brought about by Russia's desire to keep Ukraine from integrating with the E.U. and N.A.T.O.

Russia wants all of Ukraine for itself.

Russian nationalist extremists may also have a pan-Slavic agenda for Mother Russia to rule over all Slavic nations.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #618 on: August 21, 2025, 12:16:25 pm »
Anything short of Ukraine being a vassal state of Russia, like Belarus, will be unacceptable to the Kremlin.

The Ukraine War was brought about by Russia's desire to keep Ukraine from integrating with the E.U. and N.A.T.O.

Russia wants all of Ukraine for itself.

Russian nationalist extremists may also have a pan-Slavic agenda for Mother Russia to rule over all Slavic nations.

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« Reply #619 on: August 21, 2025, 12:17:05 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #620 on: August 21, 2025, 01:02:14 pm »
Russians just adore waiting in lines because it reminds them of the glory days of the USSR.
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I vaguely remember a story about a Soviet-era dissident who would go around and stand at anonymous doors. When some asked him why he was there he'd say he was in line for something. Other people then lined up because in the USSR that's what they did.

As soon as the line was long enough the dissident would excuse himself and leave the crowd behind for their eventual disappointment.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #621 on: August 21, 2025, 01:25:34 pm »
Russia Hammers Ukraine With One of the Largest Air Strikes of the War

Russia launched one of its biggest aerial attacks of the year on Ukraine, firing 574 drones and 40 ballistic and cruise missiles overnight.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/08/21/russia-hammers-ukraine-with-one-of-the-largest-air-strikes-of-the-war/
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #622 on: August 21, 2025, 01:33:01 pm »
Russia Hammers Ukraine With One of the Largest Air Strikes of the War

Russia launched one of its biggest aerial attacks of the year on Ukraine, firing 574 drones and 40 ballistic and cruise missiles overnight.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/08/21/russia-hammers-ukraine-with-one-of-the-largest-air-strikes-of-the-war/

Well that shows just how much Putin wants to end the war and become a peace monger. Hope 47 is paying attention.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #623 on: August 21, 2025, 01:42:17 pm »
Peace ... via submission.



Why can't the West and Ukraine let Putin have the peace he wants ... by letting him complete conquest of Ukraine?
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #624 on: August 21, 2025, 01:43:37 pm »
Trump urges Ukraine to take offensive route: ‘Little chance of winning without launching attacks inside Russian territory’



President Donald Trump has urged Ukraine to go on the offensive against Russia, arguing that Kyiv cannot prevail without striking inside Russian territory. This is a sharp departure from his earlier calls for restraint during the ongoing peace negotiations.

“It is very hard, if not impossible, to win a war without attacking an invaders country. It’s like a great team in sports that has a fantastic defense, but is not allowed to play offense. There is no chance of winning! It is like that with Ukraine and Russia,” Trump wrote in a Thursday Truth Social post.

“Crooked and grossly incompetent Joe Biden would not let Ukraine FIGHT BACK, only DEFEND. How did that work out? Regardless, this is a war that would have NEVER happened if I were President – ZERO CHANCE. Interesting times ahead!!!” President Trump added.

The White House followed up with a dramatic black-and-white image of President Trump pointing at Vladimir Putin — visually evoking the famed 1959 “Kitchen Debate” photograph depicting then-Vice President Richard Nixon and Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, a moment long symbolic of American resolve in the face of Soviet pressure.

https://twitter.com/_johnnymaga/status/1958527304990126359/photo/1

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/trump-urges-ukraine-to-take-offensive-route-little-chance-of-winning-without-launching-attacks-inside-russian-territory/


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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #625 on: August 21, 2025, 02:19:13 pm »
Peace ... via submission.



Why can't the West and Ukrain let Putin have the peace he wants ... by letting him complete conquest of Ukraine?

Trump is now refusing to condemn Russia for their ongoing occupation of and aggressions against Georgia.

Several stories about this today. Georgians fear Trump just greenlit a Russian invasion of their country.
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Re: Ukraine 7
« Reply #626 on: August 21, 2025, 04:18:06 pm »
Trump urges Ukraine to take offensive route: ‘Little chance of winning without launching attacks inside Russian territory’



President Donald Trump has urged Ukraine to go on the offensive against Russia, arguing that Kyiv cannot prevail without striking inside Russian territory. This is a sharp departure from his earlier calls for restraint during the ongoing peace negotiations.

“It is very hard, if not impossible, to win a war without attacking an invaders country. It’s like a great team in sports that has a fantastic defense, but is not allowed to play offense. There is no chance of winning! It is like that with Ukraine and Russia,” Trump wrote in a Thursday Truth Social post.

“Crooked and grossly incompetent Joe Biden would not let Ukraine FIGHT BACK, only DEFEND. How did that work out? Regardless, this is a war that would have NEVER happened if I were President – ZERO CHANCE. Interesting times ahead!!!” President Trump added.

The White House followed up with a dramatic black-and-white image of President Trump pointing at Vladimir Putin — visually evoking the famed 1959 “Kitchen Debate” photograph depicting then-Vice President Richard Nixon and Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev, a moment long symbolic of American resolve in the face of Soviet pressure.

https://twitter.com/_johnnymaga/status/1958527304990126359/photo/1

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/trump-urges-ukraine-to-take-offensive-route-little-chance-of-winning-without-launching-attacks-inside-russian-territory/


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If you look closely you will notice the same guy of the same age standing in the middle with both Noxious Nixon and 47. Wonder how he did that?
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« Reply #627 on: August 21, 2025, 04:23:42 pm »
Trump is now refusing to condemn Russia for their ongoing occupation of and aggressions against Georgia.

Several stories about this today. Georgians fear Trump just greenlit a Russian invasion of their country.

You must remember that if Trump was President, it would never happen ... wait ...  333cleo


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Trump is now refusing to condemn Russia for their ongoing occupation of and aggressions against Georgia.

Several stories about this today. Georgians fear Trump just greenlit a Russian invasion of their country.

Got a link or two of this possible event?
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« Reply #629 on: August 21, 2025, 07:07:45 pm »
Got a link or two of this possible event?

https://jam-news.net/us-refused-to-condemn-russia/

US stays out of UN declaration condemning Russia over 2008 Georgia war

On the 17th anniversary of the August 2008 war, several UN Security Council members again condemned Russia’s actions. Notably, this was the first time the United States did not sign such a statement.
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« Reply #630 on: August 21, 2025, 07:09:14 pm »
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« Reply #631 on: August 21, 2025, 07:31:56 pm »
Trump is now refusing to condemn Russia for their ongoing occupation of and aggressions against Georgia.

Several stories about this today. Georgians fear Trump just greenlit a Russian invasion of their country.


Wait...am I crazy? (Maybe a little). But doesn't Russia already control Georgia? I thought they took it when GWB was president.

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« Reply #632 on: August 21, 2025, 07:33:38 pm »
Well that shows just how much Putin wants to end the war and become a peace monger. Hope 47 is paying attention.


My thoughts exactly. That whole dog and pony show in Alaska was to delay sanctions.

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« Reply #633 on: August 21, 2025, 08:24:33 pm »

Wait...am I crazy? (Maybe a little). But doesn't Russia already control Georgia? I thought they took it when GWB was president.

Just a piece of it.
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« Reply #634 on: August 21, 2025, 09:13:59 pm »
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« Reply #637 on: August 21, 2025, 09:19:51 pm »
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« Reply #638 on: August 21, 2025, 09:24:29 pm »
Looks like Hungary may need to find a new source for oil.

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« Reply #641 on: August 21, 2025, 09:33:07 pm »
US company targeted by Russians in Western Ukraine:



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Russia struck the territory of the Flex plant in Mukachevo, Zakarpattia, last night.

A large-scale fire broke out, covering an area of about 7,000 square meters. According to preliminary reports, 15 people were injured.

Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha confirmed that the Russians had attacked a fully civilian facility that has nothing to do with defense or the military.

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https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1958434726282211350
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« Reply #643 on: August 21, 2025, 09:39:17 pm »
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The President of Hungary, Sulyok, reacted to the Russian missile strike on Mukachevo.

At first, Sulyok wrote about a “Russian” (orosz) attack, but within an hour he removed this word from the original post.

The old coward.



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« Reply #644 on: August 21, 2025, 09:42:35 pm »
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A powerful "signal of peace" from Russia.

🔻In Zakarpattia, an enterprise in Mukachevo was attacked. Heavy smoke in the city due to fire; residents are urged not to open windows. At least 12 people were injured.

🔻 In Lviv, drone and missile strikes damaged dozens of houses. One person was killed and three more injured.

🔻 Lutsk was also hit by drones and missiles. Preliminary reports say no casualties.

🔻 In Rivne region, 'Kinzhal' missiles and Shahed drones were launched. Local media show footage of smoke; details are being clarified.

🔻In Dnipropetrovsk region, a fire broke out after a drone strike. A 48-year-old man was reportedly injured. Damage reported in four districts of the region.

🔻 In Zaporizhzhia, industrial facilities were targeted. The blast wave damaged nearby residential buildings.

🔻Kyiv region was massively attacked by drones. Air defense forces were operating. Consequences are being clarified.

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« Reply #646 on: August 21, 2025, 09:52:37 pm »
Russian soldier who shot civilians near Kupiansk sentenced to life imprisonment

Elza Diachenko - 14 August 2025 | 18:25


UKRAINE, KHARKIV OBLAST, Aug 14 — Artem Kulikov, a Russian soldier captured in Ukraine, has been sentenced to life imprisonment for the murder of two civilians near Kupiansk, said Vladyslav Abdula, the spokesperson of the Ukrainian Security Service.

In July, the United Nations Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine recorded 286 killed and 1,388 injured casualties in the Russia-Ukraine war — the highest number since May 2022.

According to the investigation, 21-year-old Kulikov was drafted into the Russian army at the end of August 2024 from a prison in Nizhny Novgorod, where he was serving a sentence for robbery.

The Russian army sent a man to Ukraine’s border area, east of the Kharkiv region. During the attack on one of the villages in the Kupiansk district, he and another Russian soldier abducted two locals of the village in helping in the evacuation from the frontline territories.

The Russians tried to get information from the men about the locations of the Ukrainian military. When the men refused, Kulikov shot both of them with an automatic rifle.

Ukrainian troops captured Kulikov in October 2024, during the clashes on the Kupiansk axis.

Abdula said that a Russian soldier provided evidence against his commanders, who gave orders to kill civilians in the occupied territories of Ukraine.  .  .

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« Reply #648 on: August 21, 2025, 09:57:33 pm »
A Ukrainian startup develops long-range drones and missiles to take the battle to Russia

SAMYA KULLAB and EFREM LUKATSKY  |  Updated 9:13 AM EDT, August 21, 2025


When a Ukrainian-made drone attacked an ammunition depot in Russia last September, it showcased Kyiv’s determination to strike deep behind enemy lines and the prowess of its defense industry.

The moment was especially gratifying for the woman in charge of manufacturing the drones that flew more than 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) to carry out this mission. For months after, Russia no longer had the means to keep up devastating glide bomb attacks like the one that had just targeted her native city of Kharkiv.

“Fighting in the air is our only real asymmetric advantage on the battlefield at the moment. We don’t have as much manpower or money as they have,” said Iryna Terekh, head of production at Fire Point.


Workers inspect a Flamingo cruise missile at Fire Point’s secret factory in Ukraine on Monday, Aug. 18, 2025. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)

Terekh spoke as she surveyed dozens of “deep-strike drones” that had recently come off the assembly line and would soon be used by Ukrainian forces to attack arms depots, oil refineries and other targets vital to the Kremlin’s war machine and economy.

Spurred by its existential fight against Russia — and limited military assistance from Western allies — Ukraine has fast become a global center for defense innovation. The goal is to match, if not outmuscle, Russia’s capabilities, which were on brutal display Thursday — and Fire Point is one of the companies leading the way.  .  .

https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-drones-weapons-industry-russia-7201ab851544c394ee454407058b10ba
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