Jeffrey Epstein Hoax

[Timber Rattler]

Does your state have a Democrat governor? @LMAO @Timber Rattler

Yeah, Shapiro but he doesn't have anything to do with that.  The high food and electrical prices are a national problem.  However, you are correct about one thing...Pennsylvania does have one of the highest gasoline taxes in the Nation but that's because of former Republican Corbett in 2013.

[mountaineer]

Representative Jamie Raskin (D-MD) said Thursday on MSNBC’s “The Briefing” that President Donald Trump will have to release all the Jeffrey Epstein materials because there was “overwhelming bipartisan congressional demand” to do so.

When was the last time all files from a criminal investigation - any criminal investigation, let alone one involving sex crimes against minors - were turned over to the public?

[Bigun]

When was the last time all files from a criminal investigation - any criminal investigation, let alone one involving sex crimes against minors - were turned over to the public?

I'll take never for $2000 Alex.

[Bigun]

Yeah, Shapiro but he doesn't have anything to do with that.  The high food and electrical prices are a national problem.  However, you are correct about one thing...Pennsylvania does have one of the highest gasoline taxes in the Nation but that's because of former Republican Corbett in 2013.

Right! 

Seems like Republican led states are doing much better in every regard but what do I know?

[DefiantMassRINO]

[mystery-ak]

https://rumble.com/embed/v6u5hsi/?pub=4

[libertybele]

Bondi said the LIST was on her desk.

https://fortune.com/2025/07/08/doj-theory-promoted-ag-pam-bondi-epstein-client-list-no-exist/

Her first statement was "Files" would be released.  The focus obviously right now is the 'list' within  the files.  Obviously the bottom line is we want names!

........."“This Department of Justice is following through on President Trump’s commitment to transparency and lifting the veil on the disgusting actions of Jeffrey Epstein and his co-conspirators,” said Attorney General Pamela Bondi. “The first phase of files released today sheds light on Epstein’s extensive network and begins to provide the public with long overdue accountability.” 

“The FBI is entering a new era—one that will be defined by integrity, accountability, and the unwavering pursuit of justice,” said FBI Director Kash Patel. “There will be no cover-ups, no missing documents, and no stone left unturned — and anyone from the prior or current Bureau who undermines this will be swiftly pursued. If there are gaps, we will find them. If records have been hidden, we will uncover them. And we will bring everything we find to the DOJ to be fully assessed and transparently disseminated to the American people as it should be. The oath we take is to the Constitution, and under my leadership, that promise will be upheld without compromise.”................

She then goes on to request files including documents of flight logs, Epstein's list of contacts ......

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1391331/dl?inline


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-pamela-bondi-releases-first-phase-declassified-epstein-files

[libertybele]

Trump directs AG Bondi to work on unsealing grand jury transcripts in Epstein case: 'We are ready'

President Donald Trump late Thursday directed Attorney General Pam Bondi to work on releasing grand jury transcripts in the case of Jeffrey Epstein.

It's unclear exactly when any testimony may go public. The Justice Department is expected to file Friday asking a judge to unseal transcripts.

The order came after a barrage of criticism against the Trump administration following the release of a joint DOJ-FBI memo that concluded there was no evidence that the disgraced financier had blackmailed powerful people, kept a client list or was killed while in jail.

The memo has created deep fissures among Trump supporters who have complained of a lack of transparency from the administration. A source told Fox News Digital that FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino had been considering resigning over the matter, though he has not stated anything publicly.

The president, meanwhile, has pushed back at the criticism, calling the charges a "hoax" and contending that his supporters are being "duped" by Democrats. Trump posted to Truth Social on Friday morning, "If there was a ‘smoking gun’ on Epstein, why didn’t the Dems, who controlled the ‘files’ for four years, and had [then-Attorney General Merrick Garland] and [then-FBI Director James Comey] in charge, use it? BECAUSE THEY HAD NOTHING!!!"............

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-directs-ag-bondi-work-unsealing-grand-jury-transcripts-epstein-case-we-ready

[roamer_1]

LOL!  Only in your demented TDS brain, @roamer_1

If there was anything there, they'd have used it.  Now??  Because the Dems put them on ice for 4 years, the evidence can't be trusted.

I'm hoping he pardons Ghislaine Maxwell.  Let HER be the catalyst to satiate one's Pruient instincts.

So if there are equally big name Democrats AND big name republicans on that list OR substantial donors to both on that list THEN how is it that EITHER side would want that list exposed?

This new shtick is entirely unbelievable. This guy, known for throwing extravagant sex parties in at least 4 international locations, already arrested and let off easy in Florida for sex trafficking through those parties, with Tumpy himself begging off (supposedly) and making Epstein unwelcome at Mar Largo With innuendo toward the same

ALL of that and now SUDDENLY it was just Epstein and Maxwell - Yeah, right...

You ain't that stupid, @DCPatriot .

[MeganC]

So if there are equally big name Democrats AND big name republicans on that list OR substantial donors to both on that list THEN how is it that EITHER side would want that list exposed?

This new shtick is entirely unbelievable. This guy, known for throwing extravagant sex parties in at least 4 international locations, already arrested and let off easy in Florida for sex trafficking through those parties, with Tumpy himself begging off (supposedly) and making Epstein unwelcome at Mar Largo With innuendo toward the same

ALL of that and now SUDDENLY it was just Epstein and Maxwell - Yeah, right...

You ain't that stupid, @DCPatriot .

 

[roamer_1]

In this case, exceedingly unlikely.

Oh I think it is exceedingly unlikely too, but don't piss in my pocket and tell me it's raining.

[mystery-ak]

July 18, 2025
Wanted: Jeffrey Epstein explanations
By Allan J. Favish

President Donald Trump’s administration needs to provide additional explanations for statements that Attorney General Pam Bondi and United States Attorney for the District of New Jersey Alina Habba made about evidence associated with Jeffrey Epstein.

In a letter to Federal Bureau of Investigation Director Kash Patel dated February 27, 2025, Bondi stated:

    By 8:00 a.m. tomorrow, February 28, the FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents, audio and video recordings, and materials related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how such information was obtained.

Did Bond receive the materials related to Epstein’s “clients”? Why did she request materials related to Epstein’s “clients?” Does the federal government have materials related to Epstein’s “clients” that are not publicly available? If so, what is in those materials, whether specifically or, if a court order is in place, generally?

more
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/07/wanted_jeffrey_epstein_explanations.html

[Right_in_Virginia]

Her first statement was "Files" would be released.  The focus obviously right now is the 'list' within  the files.  Obviously the bottom line is we want names!

She then goes on to request files including documents of flight logs, Epstein's list of contacts ......

Wouldn't the released documents need to be relevant to the indictment?

The indictment covers a specific period of time (2002-2005) and does not include his honey pot island, so wouldn't relevant flight logs be to/from his residences in NYC and Palm Beach?  And the way the indictment reads, the exploitation is for Epstein's pleasures, solely.
 

The indictment ....

Jeffrey Epstein was indicted by a New York grand jury in 2019 on charges of sex trafficking of minors and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of minors.

Specifically, the indictment alleged that from 2002 to 2005 Epstein allegedly worked with several employees and associates to ensure that he had a steady supply of minor victims to abuse, and paid several of those victims themselves to recruit other underage girls to engage in similar sex acts for money.  Epstein enticed and recruited dozens of minor girls to his residences in Manhattan, New York, and Palm Beach, Florida, to engage in sex acts with him in exchange for money. He was also accused of paying certain victims to recruit additional girls for the purpose of sexual exploitation.

Epstein's arrest in New York came after a prior plea deal in Florida that allowed him to avoid federal charges and serve a reduced sentence on state charges related to prostitution. This lenient agreement drew considerable criticism, and the subsequent New York indictment aimed to address the more serious federal offenses of sex trafficking. However, Epstein died by suicide in his Manhattan jail cell before facing trial on these charges.

More:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/jeffrey-epstein-charged-manhattan-federal-court-sex-trafficking-minors

[Right_in_Virginia]

July 18, 2025
Wanted: Jeffrey Epstein explanations
By Allan J. Favish

In a letter to Federal Bureau of Investigation Director Kash Patel dated February 27, 2025, Bondi stated:

    By 8:00 a.m. tomorrow, February 28, the FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents, audio and video recordings, and materials related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how such information was obtained.

Has Bondi (or Patel or Bongino) read the indictment?   Here:  https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/jeffrey-epstein-charged-manhattan-federal-court-sex-trafficking-minors

[DCPatriot]

So if there are equally big name Democrats AND big name republicans on that list OR substantial donors to both on that list THEN how is it that EITHER side would want that list exposed?

This new shtick is entirely unbelievable. This guy, known for throwing extravagant sex parties in at least 4 international locations, already arrested and let off easy in Florida for sex trafficking through those parties, with Tumpy himself begging off (supposedly) and making Epstein unwelcome at Mar Largo With innuendo toward the same

ALL of that and now SUDDENLY it was just Epstein and Maxwell - Yeah, right...

You ain't that stupid, @DCPatriot .

@roamer_1

I was speaking specifically of Donald J. Trump not being involved...not being a victim of Epstein escapades.

If he were, it wouldn't have stayed quiet for the past 4 years.

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/1946015437495402603

[Timber Rattler]

Let's not get ahead of our selves...big caveat  here:

A motion is expected to be filed TOMORROW in court!

Bondi is not unsealing anything.  She's going to toss the whole mess into the lap of the presiding judge.

[LMAO]

Trump drew Porno Pictures for Epstein?

Trump claims he never ‘wrote a picture.’ His sketchy Epstein lie has now been exposed
At least five sketches attributed to Trump have sold at auction over the past decade, undermining his claim, ‘I don’t draw pictures’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-epstein-picture-birthday-card-doodle-b2791473.html

Lol

This is what his reply should have been went asked about the sketch


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u_f6qFBQD9U

[libertybele]

Wouldn't the released documents need to be relevant to the indictment?

The indictment covers a specific period of time (2002-2005) and does not include his honey pot island, so wouldn't relevant flight logs be to/from his residences in NYC and Palm Beach?  And the way the indictment reads, the exploitation is for Epstein's pleasures, solely.
 

The indictment lists specific dates.  I'm assuming that Epstein's sex trafficking goes way back. However, likely the only information that  will  be released will be limited to that particular indictment as Trump told Bondi to release what she felt was credible.

Trump and Epstein had a relationship for 15 years. According to reports, Trump didn't break ties with Epstein until 2004, which is within the time frame of the indictment. (We've talked about Trump's involvement with Epstein in this forum before).   

So ... likely in the time frame of the indictment, there is no list. 

[libertybele]

Let's not get ahead of our selves...big caveat  here:

Bondi is not unsealing anything.  She's going to toss the whole mess into the lap of the presiding judge.

OK...so wait and see ....

[Smokin Joe]

Same here in Wisconsin. Gas prices have gone up. And I have a relative that has a contracting business and he has said that prices have gone up

In fact, talk to apolitical people and they’ll tell you the same thing. MAGA is making the same mistake the Biden administration made and that is “don’t believe your lying eyes.”


I’ve watched this Epstein fiasco with great interest and Trump is not behaving like somebody who had nothing to do with Epstein. It’s obvious he wants the story to go away.  Now everybody is innocent until proven guilty, but my hunch is his involvement with Epstein is deeper  despite the protests from he and his most dedicated cult. The threat to take away Rosie O’Donnell citizenship was an attempt at distraction. He’s going to try more. But it isn’t working this time.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11292174/donald-trump-elon-musk-epstein-files-poll/amp/


The only one who believes this is a hoax is Donald Trump. Even those members of his cult that tried to come to his defense, deep down they know this is bad for him, and they believe his name is on that list

And nobody’s buying that the list was made up by the Democrats and Comey(sp)….lol
 
Trump is but one of many rich and powerful people who are desperate for this issue to go away

@Timber Rattler
Well, here are the averages...

The national average for a gallon of regular gasoline is currently $3.16 as of July 17, 2025. This is a slight decrease of one cent from the previous week. This reflects a larger year-over-year decrease from $3.52 on July 16, 2024, down 10.1%.
Average gas prices in July 2025 are lower compared to the same period in 2024. In fact, current summer gas prices are matching the lower levels seen in the summer of 2021.
The average gas price in North Dakota is currently $2.914 for regular gasoline. Gas prices in North Dakota decreased by 14.1% between July 16, 2024, and July 16, 2025

I filled up for $2.75 9/10 per gallon two days ago. So, yes, gas prices are down.

Beef is way up, sadly, but I talked with a place that does slaughtering and beeves are going for $2.00/lb live weight, when last year they were closer to $1.25. Small wonder the price is up, and it will only come down when production can exceed demand. (The critters are sold at auction).

But Eggs are way down here at $4.19 for an 18 count, large, grade A. That works out to $2.79 per dozen. The high last winter was close to $8/dozen.

While I have noticed a little shrinkflation (smaller sizes or fewer pieces, same price), other things have come down a little if you shop around. If you take your time and stock up on loss leaders (sale items), you can do pretty well.

Credit card interest has dropped a little over 1% for me since winter (APR), but my credit score is north of 800. I do not use it for cash advances, just carry some of that.

So your experience may not be the same as elsewhere, and it depends on where you shop.

[mountaineer]

This tweeter claims to be a criminal defense atty, and offers some insights:

LB
@beyondreasdoubt
uhhhh* the gj was impaneled to procure indictments against Epstein and Maxwell for trafficking girls for Epstein’s use — it’s very unlikely to include the names other people that allegedly had sex with the vics
   *im sorry but I know about this shit and it pains me that POTUS is not receiving better counsel
9:13 PM · Jul 17, 2025

LB
@beyondreasdoubt
Also, an indictment can be based wholly on hearsay. So that means a case agent (FBI, HSI, whatever) can take the stand and testify to what he/she learned.
So while I’m even doubtful a federal judge will waive the usual secrecy rules here, releasing the gj transcripts isn’t going to achieve anything at the end of the day.
9:49 PM · Jul 17, 2025

LB
@beyondreasdoubt
You know what I, a defense attorney, don’t get while representing my fed clients pre-trial? The gd gj minutes.
But bc a bunch of clueless losers on the internet are crying, we’re going to release them for no good reason
It’s just all so stupid
9:58 PM · Jul 17, 2025

[Smokin Joe]

   Still waiting, for 9+ years for Trump to explain what happened to Seal Team 6.  He campaigned in 2016 that he'd get to the bottom of what hidin biden and crooked hillary tried to cover up.

Was that the Extortion 17 mess?

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/susancrabtree/status/1946181256020181176

[Right_in_Virginia]

The indictment lists specific dates.  I'm assuming that Epstein's sex trafficking goes way back. However, likely the only information that  will  be released will be limited to that particular indictment as Trump told Bondi to release what she felt was credible.

Trump and Epstein had a relationship for 15 years. According to reports, Trump didn't break ties with Epstein until 2004, which is within the time frame of the indictment. (We've talked about Trump's involvement with Epstein in this forum before).   

So ... likely in the time frame of the indictment, there is no list.

Release of information from an indictment needs a judge's okay.  It's one of the fundamentals of of judicial system to secure relevance,  protect victims, protect the innocent, and encourage cooperation.  What's happening now with the judge has nothing to do with Trump.

Sounds like what you want is for a true investigative journalist to step up and give you the names you crave.  Don't hold your breath 😃

[Right_in_Virginia]

This tweeter claims to be a criminal defense atty, and offers some insights:

LB
@beyondreasdoubt
uhhhh* the gj was impaneled to procure indictments against Epstein and Maxwell for trafficking girls for Epstein’s use — it’s very unlikely to include the names other people that allegedly had sex with the vics
   *im sorry but I know about this shit and it pains me that POTUS is not receiving better counsel
9:13 PM · Jul 17, 2025

LB
@beyondreasdoubt
Also, an indictment can be based wholly on hearsay. So that means a case agent (FBI, HSI, whatever) can take the stand and testify to what he/she learned.
So while I’m even doubtful a federal judge will waive the usual secrecy rules here, releasing the gj transcripts isn’t going to achieve anything at the end of the day.
9:49 PM · Jul 17, 2025

LB
@beyondreasdoubt
You know what I, a defense attorney, don’t get while representing my fed clients pre-trial? The gd gj minutes.
But bc a bunch of clueless losers on the internet are crying, we’re going to release them for no good reason
It’s just all so stupid
9:58 PM · Jul 17, 2025

Did I miss his point? Will the judge release the GJ files or not?

[corbe]

Was that the Extortion 17 mess?

   Yes, @Smokin Joe It was after he rode the obummer birth certificate till it fizzled out with no results.  He certainly knows his hard-core base will fall for anything now.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

I was speaking specifically of Donald J. Trump not being involved...not being a victim of Epstein escapades.

If he were, it wouldn't have stayed quiet for the past 4 years.

It hasn't been quiet. It's already known that he took the plane. And it wouldn't change my opinion of him very much to find out he'd attended a black tie suaree at Epstein's NYC mansion a time or two. He liked that playboy image in his younger days.

But neither would it change yours... The same angelic figurehead that carried on an international casino business who surely never consorted with escort services or mob connections would never have a fling at an Epstein establishment. Yeah, right. 

[libertybele]

Release of information from an indictment needs a judge's okay.  It's one of the fundamentals of of judicial system to secure relevance,  protect victims, protect the innocent, and encourage cooperation.  What's happening now with the judge has nothing to do with Trump.

Sounds like what you want is for a true investigative journalist to step up and give you the names you crave.  Don't hold your breath 😃

Clinton.  Any justice for the young girls that he's used as a sex toy would make me happy.

[DCPatriot]

Clinton.  Any justice for the young girls that he's used as a sex toy would make me happy.

Once again, maintain...being an "Epstein Girl from The Island" was tantamount to winning a personal lottery of sorts from the young girl's POV.

That said, they're all at an age where those days are from 'another' life.

To be exposed/doxxed would not be cool at all, just to satisfy one's need for justice for having sexual contact with state-mandated minor children...MORE THAN A DECADE AGO! (when said 'children' prefer to remain anonymous themselves)

All this needs to be weighed before any charges are brought.

If it were up to me, I would wrap it up immediately.  Possible tainted evidence after entire case essentially ignored for many years.

[American Girl]

Excerpt:
Attorney General Pam Bondi just dropped a bombshell that could send shockwaves through the Deep State.

In a bold legal move, Bondi has filed a motion to unseal the grand jury testimony related to Jeffrey Epstein—an unprecedented step that could finally expose who knew what, and when. The decision to file comes amid mounting pressure and criticism over Bondi’s inconsistent handling of the Epstein case in recent months.

For weeks, speculation has swirled around whether Bondi would take a stand or fold under pressure. Now, it appears she’s chosen to go all in—potentially putting herself and others in political crosshairs.



I can't wait to see who files objections to this request.

This is great, next the arrest warrants for treason. She can make up for a lot of bad decisions in 2 fell swoops, release the files and arrest the traitors.
Great weekend if she does.

https://www.usasupreme.com/breaking-ag-pam-bondi-files-motion-to-unseal-epstein-grand-jury-testimony/

[DefiantMassRINO]

I'll believe it when we all see it.

I think the judge/court/judiciary is the new fall guy for non-release.

It gives plausible deniability to Trump and Bondi ... "We want to release the files, but the court won't let us.  Go chase them, not us."

[roamer_1]

Once again, maintain...being an "Epstein Girl from The Island" was tantamount to winning a personal lottery of sorts from the young girl's POV.

That said, they're all at an age where those days are from 'another' life.

To be exposed/doxxed would not be cool at all, just to satisfy one's need for justice for having sexual contact with state-mandated minor children...MORE THAN A DECADE AGO! (when said 'children' prefer to remain anonymous themselves)

All this needs to be weighed before any charges are brought.

If it were up to me, I would wrap it up immediately.  Possible tainted evidence after entire case essentially ignored for many years.

I don't care at all about the witnesses - a jury to confirm their bonafides and then let them testify behind closed doors.

It's the men of means who used them - THAT should be made as public as possible.

Eff em.
With a shovel.
And a tuba.
And a backhoe.