Author Topic: Jeffrey Epstein Hoax (Read 2134 times)

MeganC · « **Reply #50 on:** July 17, 2025, 07:47:44 pm »

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 17, 2025, 07:44:54 pm

The ignorance of the law here is pretty stunning. Read why most of the documents cannot be released:

Hold up a minute. This isn't about withholding documents for a grand jury. We are being told there will be no grand jury! We are being told to forget about it! And we are being insulted because we will not forget about it!

MeganC · « **Reply #51 on:** July 17, 2025, 07:48:41 pm »

WHERE IS THE EPSTEIN CLIENT LIST?????

Bigun · « **Reply #52 on:** July 17, 2025, 07:55:11 pm »

Quote from: MeganC on July 17, 2025, 07:47:44 pm

Hold up a minute. This isn't about withholding documents for a grand jury. We are being told there will be no grand jury! We are being told to forget about it! And we are being insulted because we will not forget about it!

No! We are being told that we can never know what is or isn't before a grand jury and that is EXACTLY how it should be.

NavyCanDo · « **Reply #53 on:** July 17, 2025, 07:57:00 pm »

Trumps mishandling of this has been epic.
Trump should just keep his pie hole shut, and let Karoline Leavitt answer the questions. She does an excellent job. Every time he post something or says something on the Epstein case, he just makes things worse for himself. It’s because of him is why some of his own base is starting to think, maybe he is on the list.

Bigun · « **Reply #54 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:00:23 pm »

Quote from: NavyCanDo on July 17, 2025, 07:57:00 pm

Trumps mishandling of this has been epic.
Trump should just keep his pie hole shut, and let Karoline Leavitt answer the questions. She does an excellent job. Every time he post something or says something on the Epstein case, he just makes things worse for himself. It’s because of him is why some of his own base is starting to think, maybe he is on the list.

Exactly!

Trump is very prone to getting caught up in the moment and saying things he shouldn't. It gives me no pleasure to say it but it's true.

berdie · « **Reply #55 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:04:14 pm »

Quote from: MeganC on July 17, 2025, 07:46:28 pm

I agree.

This, to me, is why a list should not be released. It will be an automatic assumption of guilt for everyone on that list. He!!, maybe it's just his barber. Usually, once a person is accused of pedophilia they are automatically guilty. Even after proof of innocence is there...they are still guilty. Forever.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #56 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:08:30 pm »

Quote from: bigheadfred on July 17, 2025, 04:00:54 am

You all need to watch this: https://t.co/AnxLsmjgus

This ⬆️ is from late 2024 and is the sum total of Trump "campaigning on the Epstein files". 104 rallies, dozens of separate speeches, dozens and dozens of other interviews without the mention of Epstein. You know why this was? Trump did not campaign on Jeffrey Epstein.

And, I repeat, Trump is not not saying the Epstein operation is a hoax. Trump is saying the current unhinged OBSESSION with Epstein is the hoax, and it’s designed to distract you, derail Trump’s support, and sow doubt within our ranks. He's further saying he knows who the obsessed are.

Lando Lincoln · « **Reply #57 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:09:06 pm »

Quote from: NavyCanDo on July 17, 2025, 07:57:00 pm

Trumps mishandling of this has been epic.
Trump should just keep his pie hole shut, and let Karoline Leavitt answer the questions. She does an excellent job. Every time he post something or says something on the Epstein case, he just makes things worse for himself. It’s because of him is why some of his own base is starting to think, maybe he is on the list.

To my way of thinking, it is exceedingly unlikely that Trump is on the list. His enemies (including the Biden Administration) sought every way imaginable to destroy him. If he is on the list, evidence would have been breathlessly placed front and center before now.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #58 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:10:31 pm »

Quote from: Bigun on July 17, 2025, 07:55:11 pm

No! We are being told that we can never know what is or isn't before a grand jury and that is EXACTLY how it should be.

MeganC · « **Reply #59 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:14:17 pm »

Quote from: berdie on July 17, 2025, 08:04:14 pm

This, to me, is why a list should not be released. It will be an automatic assumption of guilt for everyone on that list. He!!, maybe it's just his barber. Usually, once a person is accused of pedophilia they are automatically guilty. Even after proof of innocence is there...they are still guilty. Forever.

Sorry but that argument died when the US participated in prosecuting the guys who delivered supplies and mail to the German concentration camps.

So if someone went to one of Epstein's estates, worked there, delivered supplies, delivered mail, diddled children on video, flew on his planes, arranged flights for victims of rape and molestation, etc. Then we need to know their names.

Just as we were promised: Full transparency.

And if there is going to be a grand jury investigation then get on with it!

berdie · « **Reply #60 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:25:54 pm »

Quote from: MeganC on July 17, 2025, 08:14:17 pm

Sorry but that argument died when the US participated in prosecuting the guys who delivered supplies and mail to the German concentration camps.

So if someone went to one of Epstein's estates, worked there, delivered supplies, delivered mail, diddled children on video, flew on his planes, arranged flights for victims of rape and molestation, etc. Then we need to know their names.

Just as we were promised: Full transparency.

And if there is going to be a grand jury investigation then get on with it!

I had no knowledge about the people delivering supplies, mail, etc to concentration camps. I'll take some time to research it, not that I doubt you.

But there is, in my mind a difference. Just going to some rich guy's estate is different than going to a concentration camp. Man, would I hate to have been his mail deliverer under your criteria.

corbe · « **Reply #61 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:32:47 pm »

Still waiting, for 9+ years for Trump to explain what happened to Seal Team 6. He campaigned in 2016 that he'd get to the bottom of what hidin biden and crooked hillary tried to cover up.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #62 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:34:16 pm »

Quote from: MeganC on July 17, 2025, 07:46:28 pm

I agree.

Yep. Bad optics, and pretty tone deaf. Many will see it as the only reason the data isn't being made available.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #63 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:34:26 pm »

From today's press briefing ...

https://youtu.be/eofD4ZPwchw?si=KoJQK6bqXaQegO7o

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #64 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:36:48 pm »

Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 17, 2025, 08:34:16 pm

Yep. Bad optics, and pretty tone deaf. Many will see it as the only reason the data isn't being made available.

Nope.

Bigun · « **Reply #65 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:41:13 pm »

Quote from: Lando Lincoln on July 17, 2025, 08:09:06 pm

To my way of thinking, it is exceedingly unlikely that Trump is on the list. His enemies (including the Biden Administration) sought every way imaginable to destroy him. If he is on the list, evidence would have been breathlessly placed front and center before now.

Even if they had to manufacture any such "evidence".

roamer_1 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 17, 2025, 08:47:50 pm »

Quote from: Lando Lincoln on July 17, 2025, 08:09:06 pm

To my way of thinking, it is exceedingly unlikely that Trump is on the list. His enemies (including the Biden Administration) sought every way imaginable to destroy him. If he is on the list, evidence would have been breathlessly placed front and center before now.

Not necessarily. The thing about fight club is that nobody talks about fight club.

DCPatriot · « **Reply #67 on:** July 17, 2025, 09:09:25 pm »

Quote from: roamer_1 on July 17, 2025, 08:47:50 pm

Not necessarily. The thing about fight club is that nobody talks about fight club.

LOL! Only in your demented TDS brain, @roamer_1

If there was anything there, they'd have used it. Now?? Because the Dems put them on ice for 4 years, the evidence can't be trusted.

I'm hoping he pardons Ghislaine Maxwell. Let HER be the catalyst to satiate one's Pruient instincts.

IsailedawayfromFR · « **Reply #68 on:** July 17, 2025, 09:17:24 pm »

Quote from: MeganC on July 17, 2025, 07:48:41 pm

WHERE IS THE EPSTEIN CLIENT LIST?????

Never to be known, unfortunately.

Anything called such now released will be thought scrubbed of certain people, and will not be trustworthy.

And that is the end game here.

mountaineer · « **Reply #69 on:** July 17, 2025, 09:36:02 pm »

Trump and Bondi have announced that relevant grand jury evidence will be released, subject to court approval.

libertybele · « **Reply #70 on:** July 17, 2025, 09:42:38 pm »

Hoax? No. Trump said that the Epstein 'FILES' would be released. Pam Bondi said that she had the 'FILES' on her desk.

Somewhere in those files are names; perhaps not a 'LIST' but names within those files that were supposed to be released.

Now Trump is leaving it up to Bondi to release the 'files' that she thinks are credible. Again 'files' not list.

Perhaps not a big difference, but certainly semantics are in play.

I think it is doubtful that Trump's name is in those files, but perhaps members of the GOP who would lose their seats in the mid terms are included in those files .... OR ... maybe he's decided to hold back on those files right before the midterms and then watch the DEMS lose their seats. Checkmate. ??

corbe · « **Reply #71 on:** July 17, 2025, 09:47:23 pm »

Lando Lincoln · « **Reply #72 on:** July 17, 2025, 10:41:39 pm »

Quote from: roamer_1 on July 17, 2025, 08:47:50 pm

Not necessarily. The thing about fight club is that nobody talks about fight club.

In this case, exceedingly unlikely.

MeganC · « **Reply #73 on:** July 17, 2025, 11:18:25 pm »

Quote from: libertybele on July 17, 2025, 09:42:38 pm

Hoax? No. Trump said that the Epstein 'FILES' would be released. Pam Bondi said that she had the 'FILES' on her desk.

Somewhere in those files are names; perhaps not a 'LIST' but names within those files that were supposed to be released.

Now Trump is leaving it up to Bondi to release the 'files' that she thinks are credible. Again 'files' not list.

Perhaps not a big difference, but certainly semantics are in play.

I think it is doubtful that Trump's name is in those files, but perhaps members of the GOP who would lose their seats in the mid terms are included in those files .... OR ... maybe he's decided to hold back on those files right before the midterms and then watch the DEMS lose their seats. Checkmate. ??

Bondi said the LIST was on her desk.

https://fortune.com/2025/07/08/doj-theory-promoted-ag-pam-bondi-epstein-client-list-no-exist/

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #74 on:** July 17, 2025, 11:31:15 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on July 17, 2025, 09:36:02 pm

Trump and Bondi have announced that relevant grand jury evidence will be released, subject to court approval.

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"Based on the ridiculous amount of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I have asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to produce any and all pertinent Grand Jury testimony, subject to Court approval," Mr. Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social. "This SCAM, perpetuated by the Democrats, should end, right now!"

Bondi wrote in a post on X minutes later, "we are ready to move the court tomorrow to unseal the grand jury transcripts."

A judge will need to make the final decision on whether material can be released, which could take some time and is unlikely to be immediate.

It's unclear what material the Trump administration will ask to be released. It's not clear how much of the Epstein-related material in the government's possession is grand jury testimony.

The government is required to keep grand jury materials secret, and it's common for not all material that is shown to a grand jury — which meets before a person is criminally indicted — to emerge during a criminal case.

A request of this kind by the government is unusual, says Mitchell Epner, a partner at the New York law firm Kudman Trachten Aloe Posner, and a former federal prosecutor.

"I've been in and around federal criminal cases for over 30 years. I've never heard of this before," he told CBS News.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-orders-bondi-to-release-jeffrey-epstein-related-grand-jury-testimony/

The indictment ---

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Jeffrey Epstein was indicted by a New York grand jury in 2019 on charges of sex trafficking of minors and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of minors.

Specifically, the indictment alleged that from 2002 to 2005 Epstein allegedly worked with several employees and associates to ensure that he had a steady supply of minor victims to abuse, and paid several of those victims themselves to recruit other underage girls to engage in similar sex acts for money. Epstein enticed and recruited dozens of minor girls to his residences in Manhattan, New York, and Palm Beach, Florida, to engage in sex acts with him in exchange for money. He was also accused of paying certain victims to recruit additional girls for the purpose of sexual exploitation.

Epstein's arrest in New York came after a prior plea deal in Florida that allowed him to avoid federal charges and serve a reduced sentence on state charges related to prostitution. This lenient agreement drew considerable criticism, and the subsequent New York indictment aimed to address the more serious federal offenses of sex trafficking. However, Epstein died by suicide in his Manhattan jail cell before facing trial on these charges.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/jeffrey-epstein-charged-manhattan-federal-court-sex-trafficking-minors

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #75 on:** **Today** at 01:24:15 am »

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 17, 2025, 08:36:48 pm

Nope.

well, no one here has accused you of being "many".

jafo2010 · « **Reply #76 on:** **Today** at 05:54:00 am »

Trump's approach of covering up the whole Epstein debacle will have severe consequences for Republicans in 2026.

I think most Americans tuned in want to know the truth. It is clearly evident that Trump is covering up something. What exactly, who knows. But the cover up will cause many to turn away from Republicans in 2026. If the Dems gain control of both houses of Congress, Trump will be removed months later. The threat is real

And there are real reasons for this to be a catalyst to destroy Republicans.

The UGLY TRUTH is that inflation is not tamed. Trump and Co have been lying just like Biden. Now it may well happen that prices begin softening, but my experience here in Georgia is that prices continue to increase. Gasoline is higher than on election day last year. Eggs have not dropped one cent!!! Prices on food items I buy regularly continue to go up. If this does not reverse itself, there will be millions that voted Republican not voting or going back to the insane Democommies.
Trump continues down th epath of hiding the truth about Epstein, he destroys everything. No way did Epstein commit suicide. He was anticipating a bond hearing and his release from jail.

I don't know what they said to Bongino, but his credibility went up in smoke climbing aboard the cover up.

I am so tired of corruption in Washington.

Timber Rattler · « **Reply #77 on:** **Today** at 06:52:49 am »

Quote from: jafo2010 on Today at 05:54:00 am

The UGLY TRUTH is that inflation is not tamed. Trump and Co have been lying just like Biden. Now it may well happen that prices begin softening, but my experience here in Georgia is that prices continue to increase. Gasoline is higher than on election day last year. Eggs have not dropped one cent!!! Prices on food items I buy regularly continue to go up. If this does not reverse itself, there will be millions that voted Republican not voting or going back to the insane Democommies.

Same here in Pennsylvania. Our grocery bills have not gone down...a pound of bacon goes for $7.99 still, and gas is still at $3.19 per gallon. And don't get me started on our monthly $600 electric bill...

rustynail · « **Reply #78 on:** **Today** at 07:02:59 am »

Trump drew Porno Pictures for Epstein?

Trump claims he never ‘wrote a picture.’ His sketchy Epstein lie has now been exposed
At least five sketches attributed to Trump have sold at auction over the past decade, undermining his claim, ‘I don’t draw pictures’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-epstein-picture-birthday-card-doodle-b2791473.html

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #79 on:** **Today** at 07:32:20 am »

@jafo2010 @Smokin Joe

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1945880577909063738

cc: @DCPatriot

mountaineer · « **Reply #80 on:** **Today** at 07:54:48 am »

No, Trump did not draw porno pictures for Epstein. DJT is now suing the Wall St. Journal for libel for claiming he did - and I suspect he'll get another big settlement, as happened with ABC and CBS.

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1946006554827731377

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #81 on:** **Today** at 08:00:01 am »

Quote from: mountaineer on Today at 07:54:48 am

No, Trump did not draw porno pictures for Epstein. DJT is now suing the Wall St. Journal for libel for claiming he did - and I suspect he'll get another big settlement, as happened with ABC and CBS.

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1946006554827731377

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #82 on:** **Today** at 08:02:34 am »

Suburban Black Man
@niceblackdude

The Democrats steal elections, stage insurrections, and attempt assassinations. They would certainly tamper with evidence pertaining to the crimes they committed. These are the same people who were funding drag queen story time with your money. They tell you who they are and you don't believe them. Big mistake!

6:55 PM · Jul 16, 2025

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #83 on:** **Today** at 08:04:44 am »

Alex Bruesewitz
@alexbruesewitz

Isn't it curious that Democrats and RINOs like Mike Pence and Nikki Haley are suddenly advocating for the release of the Epstein files, despite remaining completely silent on the issue for the past four years?

Why didn’t they call for Biden to release the files?

10:13 PM · Jul 16, 2025

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #84 on:** **Today** at 08:07:06 am »

Jack Poso
@JackPosobiec

If Trump was in the Epstein files it would have been released a decade ago and there wouldn't have been any need to make up a fake Russian hooker dossier

7:32 PM · Jul 17, 2025

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #85 on:** **Today** at 08:09:13 am »

Brenden Dilley
@WarlordDilley

Fringe MAGA doesn't know they're fringe MAGA because they happen to be the loudest, most popular assholes on the internet... but in the real world, nobody gives a bleep about the single issue hills they choose to die on.

America loves and trusts Trump.

11:00 AM · Jul 16, 2025

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #86 on:** **Today** at 08:18:00 am »

Quote from: mountaineer on July 17, 2025, 09:36:02 pm

Trump and Bondi have announced that relevant grand jury evidence will be released, subject to court approval.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #87 on:** **Today** at 08:20:10 am »

https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/1946182067970302342

LMAO · « **Reply #88 on:** **Today** at 08:42:03 am »

Quote from: Timber Rattler on Today at 06:52:49 am

Same here in Pennsylvania. Our grocery bills have not gone down...a pound of bacon goes for $7.99 still, and gas is still at $3.19 per gallon. And don't get me started on our monthly $600 electric bill...

Same here in Wisconsin. Gas prices have gone up. And I have a relative that has a contracting business and he has said that prices have gone up

In fact, talk to apolitical people and they’ll tell you the same thing. MAGA is making the same mistake the Biden administration made and that is “don’t believe your lying eyes.”

I’ve watched this Epstein fiasco with great interest and Trump is not behaving like somebody who had nothing to do with Epstein. It’s obvious he wants the story to go away. Now everybody is innocent until proven guilty, but my hunch is his involvement with Epstein is deeper despite the protests from he and his most dedicated cult. The threat to take away Rosie O’Donnell citizenship was an attempt at distraction. He’s going to try more. But it isn’t working this time.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11292174/donald-trump-elon-musk-epstein-files-poll/amp/

The only one who believes this is a hoax is Donald Trump. Even those members of his cult that tried to come to his defense, deep down they know this is bad for him, and they believe his name is on that list

And nobody’s buying that the list was made up by the Democrats and Comey(sp)….lol

Trump is but one of many rich and powerful people who are desperate for this issue to go away

LMAO · « **Reply #89 on:** **Today** at 08:52:39 am »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on July 16, 2025, 08:48:57 pm

None of this would be an issue under a DeSantis presidency.

None of this would be an issue under any of the 2024 republican nominees for president

Character matters. Many of us have been saying that since the Clinton presidency when he defaced the office

This issue is going to haunt him the more he digs in and lashes out irrationally at people who have an honest desire to see who, what, and where

Bigun · « **Reply #90 on:** **Today** at 08:59:14 am »

Quote from: mountaineer on July 17, 2025, 09:36:02 pm

Trump and Bondi have announced that relevant grand jury evidence will be released, subject to court approval.

The end! Case closed. xin lỗi. Bó tay.

Timber Rattler · « **Reply #91 on:** **Today** at 09:00:03 am »

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Trump and Bondi have announced that relevant grand jury evidence will be released, subject to court approval.

Yep, and that court will NOT approve since grand jury testimony is generally sacrosanct. This is just a shameless attempt to pass that ugly buck to the judge in charge of Epstein's case. Won't work.

Bigun · « **Reply #92 on:** **Today** at 09:07:12 am »

Quote from: LMAO on Today at 08:42:03 am

Same here in Wisconsin. Gas prices have gone up. And I have a relative that has a contracting business and he has said that prices have gone up

In fact, talk to apolitical people and they’ll tell you the same thing. MAGA is making the same mistake the Biden administration made and that is “don’t believe your lying eyes.”

I’ve watched this Epstein fiasco with great interest and Trump is not behaving like somebody who had nothing to do with Epstein. It’s obvious he wants the story to go away. Now everybody is innocent until proven guilty, but my hunch is his involvement with Epstein is deeper despite the protests from he and his most dedicated cult. The threat to take away Rosie O’Donnell citizenship was an attempt at distraction. He’s going to try more. But it isn’t working this time.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11292174/donald-trump-elon-musk-epstein-files-poll/amp/

The only one who believes this is a hoax is Donald Trump. Even those members of his cult that tried to come to his defense, deep down they know this is bad for him, and they believe his name is on that list

And nobody’s buying that the list was made up by the Democrats and Comey(sp)….lol

Trump is but one of many rich and powerful people who are desperate for this issue to go away

Does your state have a Democrat governor? @LMAO @Timber Rattler

LMAO · « **Reply #93 on:** **Today** at 09:10:16 am »

Quote from: Bigun on Today at 09:07:12 am

Does your state have a Democrat governor? @LMAO @Timber Rattler

The governor is democrat

But the Wisconsin assembly and Senate are republican

Although I have no idea what that has to do with price of gas and goods and construction material going up

Bigun · « **Reply #94 on:** **Today** at 09:13:33 am »

Quote from: LMAO on Today at 09:10:16 am

The governor is democrat

But the Wisconsin assembly and Senate are Republican

Texas has a Republican governor.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/texas_retail_price_of_gasoline_monthly

DCPatriot · « **Reply #95 on:** **Today** at 09:23:27 am »

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on Today at 07:32:20 am

@jafo2010 @Smokin Joe

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1945880577909063738

cc: @DCPatriot

@Right_in_Virginia

mystery-ak · « **Reply #96 on:** **Today** at 09:29:16 am »

Key Influencers Rally Behind Trump After Wall Street Journal’s Epstein Hit Backfires

Key MAGA influencers who were critical of the Trump administration’s handling of the Epstein files are rallying behind President Donald Trump following the Wall Street Journal’s hit piece on the president, contending he sent a lewd letter to disgraced dead financier Jeffrey Epstein for his 50th birthday.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/07/17/key-influencers-rally-trump-wall-street-journals-epstein-hit-backfires/

LMAO · « **Reply #97 on:** **Today** at 09:31:36 am »

Quote from: corbe on July 17, 2025, 08:32:47 pm

Still waiting, for 9+ years for Trump to explain what happened to Seal Team 6. He campaigned in 2016 that he'd get to the bottom of what hidin biden and crooked hillary tried to cover up.

Trump knows what his audience wants to hear. And he uses that to his advantage. Remember back when Obama was president around 2012 when he claimed he had investigators that were going to expose the fact that Obama was not born in the United States?

I think it was around 2016 he finally admitted that that was basically bullshit. But this time he’s lost control of the narrative. Now he’s reduced to lashing out at his own supporters and/or attempting to toss them distractions. But it’s not working this time. The idea of underage girls being used as sex slaves for the rich and powerful seems to be a bridge too far for even the MAGA movement

mystery-ak · « **Reply #98 on:** **Today** at 09:34:30 am »

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on Today at 08:18:00 am

Raskin: ‘Overwhelming Bipartisan’ Demand Will Force Trump to Turn Over All Epstein Files

Representative Jamie Raskin (D-MD) said Thursday on MSNBC’s “The Briefing” that President Donald Trump will have to release all the Jeffrey Epstein materials because there was “overwhelming bipartisan congressional demand” to do so.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/07/17/raskin-overwhelming-bipartisan-demand-will-force-trump-to-turn-over-all-epstein-files/

Bigun · « **Reply #99 on:** **Today** at 09:46:16 am »

Quote from: LMAO on Today at 09:31:36 am

Trump knows what his audience wants to hear. And he uses that to his advantage. Remember back when Obama was president around 2012 when he claimed he had investigators that were going to expose the fact that Obama was not born in the United States?

I think it was around 2016 he finally admitted that that was basically bullshit. But this time he’s lost control of the narrative. Now he’s reduced to lashing out at his own supporters and/or attempting to toss them distractions. But it’s not working this time. The idea of underage girls being used as sex slaves for the rich and powerful seems to be a bridge too far for even the MAGA movement

Barack's own kinfolk say he wasn't.

Why has Barack Obama's half-brother raised the "birther" issue again?

Malik Obama tweeted a “copy” of what he claims is a valid birth certificate proving that his half-brother was born not in the USA, but in Mombasa, Kenya.