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Netanyahu suggests Israel can strike Iran’s Fordow nuclear site, believed to be buried deep under a mountain, without US help
 By Ryan King   
Published June 19, 2025, 5:30 p.m. ET

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly implied that his country is capable of attacking all of Iran’s nuclear facilities — even the secretive Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant, which is believed to be buried half a mile under a mountain.

Netanyahu insisted the Jewish state “will achieve all our objectives” despite many military experts doubting that the Jewish state has the capabilities of taking out the underground nuclear facility site.

“We will achieve all our objectives and hit all of their nuclear facilities. We have the capability to do that,” Netanyahu said when asked by a reporter about Fordow specifically.

Israel has struck several Iranian nuclear sites since launching its “Operation Rising Lion” airstrikes on the Islamic Republic, including a primary facility in Natanz, as well as ones near Tehran and Isfahan.

The Israelis have also taken out over a dozen top Iranian scientists and key military brass as well.

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Why talk about that?

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"Within two weeks" covers a lot of territory doesn't it.
Makes more sense than saying next Tuesday at three PM. :shrug:
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Thinking about it, the Chinese flights could have an innocent explanation. It is possible they were evacuating Chinese citizens.

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Thinking about it, the Chinese flights could have an innocent explanation. It is possible they were evacuating Chinese citizens.

Except that nothing China does is innocent ...
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Netanyahu: I understand the true cost of war - my own son had to postpone his wedding
Independent/UK, Jun 20, 2025

Benjamin Netanyahu has sparked outrage after suggesting he understands the “personal cost” of Israel’s war with Iran - because his son had to postpone his wedding.

The Israeli prime minister made the remarks in a solemn address to TV cameras while standing in front of the ruins of a hospital in the southern city of Beersheba, hours after it was hit by Iranian missiles. Officials said at least 40 people were injured in the attack on Thursday.

"There are people who were killed, families who grieved loved ones, I really appreciate that,” Netanyahu said, comparing the attacks on Israel to the blitz in Britain during World War II.

“Each of us bears a personal cost, and my family has not been exempt. This is the second time that my son Avner has cancelled a wedding due to missile threats. It is a personal cost for his fiancee as well, and I must say that my dear wife is a hero, and she bears a personal cost.”


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Benjamin Netanyahu has evoked the spirit of London during the blitz, and pointed to his own family’s sacrifice amid the blood, toil, tears and sweat of his nation: the second postponement of his son’s wedding.

The Israeli prime minister’s remarks, solemnly delivered to the cameras against the backdrop of a missile-struck hospital building in the southern city of Beersheba, set off a howl of derision that echoed around the Hebrew-language internet, at the height of a war that Netanyahu unleashed on Friday.

Seeking to underline his family’s shared hardship with ordinary Israelis, Netanyahu adopted a Churchillian tone when pointing out that this was not the first time his son Avner’s wedding had needed to be postponed, and that Avner’s fiancee was also disappointed, not to mention the thwarted mother of the groom, Netanyahu’s wife, Sara.

“It really reminds me of the British people during the blitz. We are going through a blitz,” Netanyahu said, referring to the wartime Nazi bombing of Britain in which 43,000 civilians died.

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"I have been in the hellish dungeons of Gaza for 622 days now,” Angrest said in a post on the social media platform X.

Gilad Kariv, a Knesset member for the Democrats, called Netanyahu a “borderless narcissist”.

“I know many families who were not forced to postpone a wedding, but who will now never celebrate the weddings that were once meant to take place,” Kariv said.

He was contemptuous of Netanyahu’s claim that his wife, Sara, notorious in Israel for her expensive tastes, was a hero.

"The doctors who leave home for night shifts are the heroes,” Kariv said. “The teachers who keep our children together on Zoom and phone calls are the heroes.”

Amir Tibon, an Israeli journalist, argued that public figures whose children had been killed in combat would never draw attention to the fact.

“But there are no surprises with Netanyahu,” Tibon said. “Even in moments when a personal example is most needed, he is first and foremost concerned with himself.”


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Netanyahu suggests Israel can strike Iran’s Fordow nuclear site, believed to be buried deep under a mountain, without US help
 By Ryan King   
Published June 19, 2025, 5:30 p.m. ET

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly implied that his country is capable of attacking all of Iran’s nuclear facilities — even the secretive Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant, which is believed to be buried half a mile under a mountain.

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Good.  Now stop talking and go do it, Bibi.

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Israel will NOT stand down and wait for the fickle flip-flops of Trump. Trump has his schedule which he has defined as 'within two weeks'. Israel has their own schedule which is defined as now, or as soon as possible.

This is equivalent to the guy who pushes his friend ahead during a fight. I'm right behind you buddy!!
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Why talk about that?

Because if the US does it then Israel is giving the US plausible deniability.
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Israel will NOT stand down and wait for the fickle flip-flops of Trump.

Deciding whether to commit his military to war with Iran on his timetable is "fickle"?? 

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Israel has their own schedule which is defined as now, or as soon as possible.

No one's stopping Israel.  They are free to go and do right now.




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Israel will NOT stand down and wait for the fickle flip-flops of Trump. Trump has his schedule which he has defined as 'within two weeks'. Israel has their own schedule which is defined as now, or as soon as possible.

This is equivalent to the guy who pushes his friend ahead during a fight. I'm right behind you buddy!!
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Huh?  Potentially starting World War III is not a decision that needs to be taken lightly.
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President Donald Trump has issued a stark two-week ultimatum to Iran, demanding an end to its nuclear program, a move that’s sending shockwaves through the Middle East and beyond. Trump’s decision is rooted in a desire to avoid a repeat of the Libya fiasco, where Muammar Gaddafi’s disarmament efforts ultimately led to his downfall. Trump, fresh off his G7 Summit, sees this as a critical moment to leverage Iran’s vulnerability after Israel’s recent strikes.



The neocons haven't even finished their last proxy war and they're trying to start a new one!

I think Trump is giving his best not to start a new war!

https://www.rightjournalism.com/this-is-why-trump-just-gave-iran-a-two-week-ultimatum-to-end-its-nuclear-program/

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Wooof!  A frightful sight for the bad guys.

We would never land a B-2 this close to an enemy.  The B-2s we used against the Taliban were based in Missouri and literally flew around the world to strike their targets.  Any B-2 strikes against Iran would be based far away from any threats.  Somewhere like Diego Garcia.
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We would never land a B-2 this close to an enemy.  The B-2s we used against the Taliban were based in Missouri and literally flew around the world to strike their targets.  Any B-2 strikes against Iran would be based far away from any threats.  Somewhere like Diego Garcia.

Yep. Agreed. I believe they are in Missouri with air tankers on the ready for refueling. Nice clip, though.
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Huh?  Potentially starting World War III is not a decision that needs to be taken lightly.
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Huh?  Potentially starting World War III is not a decision that needs to be taken lightly.

Hyperbole much?

Seriously, if the US destroys Iran's nuclear facility then how exactly would that turn into 'World War Three"?

Who will Iran's allies be in this war?

With what will Iran destroy the world?

It may end up with a war, true enough. But a World War? Over Iran?

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How do we know that is Israel? Looks like a clip from home base in the US. No one in his right mind would land a B-2 in an active war zone. Calling twitter click bait.
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How do we know that is Israel? Looks like a clip from home base in the US.

It's Iceland.
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Trump Hints At Potential Breakthrough In Middle East: ‘We’re Speaking To Iran’

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on June 20, 2025

By Mark Steffen

A breakthrough in the Israel-Iran conflict may be on the horizon, according to President Donald Trump, who told reporters on Friday afternoon that a conversation about the real conversation has already begun.

The Republican arrived in Bedminster, New Jersey, where he will spend Friday evening at his eponymous golf course as he hosts a fundraising dinner in support of his political action committee. Shortly after descending the stairs of Air Force One, President Trump fielded a question from the press pool about the status of negotiations with Iran, which earlier in the day called for an end to airstrikes before discussing a long-term deal.

“Will you make that request?” a journalist asked about whether he would ask Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to refrain from further bombing.

“Well, I think it’s very hard to make that request right now,” explained Trump. “If somebody’s winning, it’s a little bit harder to do than if somebody’s losing.”

Netanyahu has vowed to eliminate Iran’s nuclear enrichment program, which officials have insisted is meant purely for civilian purposes but which Israel and international observers have claimed is guided by the search for an atomic weapon.

President Trump then revealed for the first time that U.S. officials have already been holding talks with Iran.

“We’re ready, willing, and able, and we’ve been speaking to Iran, and we’ll see what happens,” he added.

Another reporter asked for his “thought process” behind offering a two-week window to weigh whether he proceeds with direct attacks on Iran. Trump clarified that he hopes it is enough time for “people to come to their senses.”

On Friday, emissaries from the United Kingdom, France, and Germany met with Iranian officials for high-level talks, which they framed as an accomplishment that President Trump could not make.

Asked if he thought the talks in Geneva were helpful, Trump replied immediately, “No, they didn’t help. Iran doesn’t want to speak to Europe.”

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Good.  Now stop talking and go do it, Bibi.

Bibi sounds confident, but if he is unable to do so, I don't see President Trump sitting this one out.

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Israel carries out strikes in Tehran as defense minister sends warning to Iranian proxy

The Israel Defense Forces confirmed Saturday that missiles were launched from Iran toward Israel, triggering sirens in multiple regions.

"A short while ago, sirens sounded in several areas across Israel following the identification of missiles launched from Iran toward the State of Israel," the IDF said in a statement.

The Israeli Air Force is actively working to intercept the threats: "At this time, the IAF is operating to intercept and strike where necessary to eliminate the threat."

Officials are warning that the missile defense system is not airtight. "The defense is not hermetic, therefore, it is essential to continue following the instructions of the Home Front Command," the IDF added.

The public is urged to stay in shelters and follow emergency guidance as the situation develops......

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I would have felt a lot better if China, Indian, Pakistan, Russia, had shown early avid support.

Even though it's essentially

"Look, you're bloody insane!  And cannot be trusted with nuclear weaponry!!"
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Yep. Agreed. I believe they are in Missouri with air tankers on the ready for refueling. Nice clip, though.
Added context notes the clip is of a B-2 in Iceland, in 2019, not Israel.
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President Donald Trump has issued a stark two-week ultimatum to Iran, demanding an end to its nuclear program, a move that’s sending shockwaves through the Middle East and beyond. Trump’s decision is rooted in a desire to avoid a repeat of the Libya fiasco, where Muammar Gaddafi’s disarmament efforts ultimately led to his downfall. Trump, fresh off his G7 Summit, sees this as a critical moment to leverage Iran’s vulnerability after Israel’s recent strikes.

The neocons haven't even finished their last proxy war and they're trying to start a new one!

I think Trump is giving his best not to start a new war!

https://www.rightjournalism.com/this-is-why-trump-just-gave-iran-a-two-week-ultimatum-to-end-its-nuclear-program/

"Gaddafi's disarmament efforts" is distinctly wrong.  He made no efforts at disarmament.  Reagan sent him an explosive message and almost killed him after his henchmen took down the Pan Am jet over Lockerbie, Scotland.

What is this about "neocons... last proxy war"?  Against whom?  You're really missing the reality boat.
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This all is getting boring.  What's the next Big Thing?

Look at the big picture. Fordow is the brass ring and grand prize. While everyone assumes a MOAB bunker buster is the only way to destroy it,I have a feeling the talk of it and negotiations is a feint to distract from the real way they destroy it. How? I don't know but I have a feeling it won't be by B-2 and it gives Trump cover to say, we (US) weren't involved. Considering the Israeli's built a drone factory on Iranian soil, I'm sure they had plenty of time to think of alternative methods of destroying it. From the people that brought you exploding beepers and  final executive get togethers (underground burial included). Bomb the ventilation shafts, shut off electricity and seal all the entrances and you entomb them, add a man made earthquake and they join Jimmy Dean's " Big Bad John" ( dating myself there)

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Look at the big picture. Fordow is the brass ring and grand prize. While everyone assumes a MOAB bunker buster is the only way to destroy it,I have a feeling the talk of it and negotiations is a feint to distract from the real way they destroy it. How? I don't know but I have a feeling it won't be by B-2 and it gives Trump cover to say, we (US) weren't involved. Considering the Israeli's built a drone factory on Iranian soil, I'm sure they had plenty of time to think of alternative methods of destroying it.

From what I've read, military experts say an alternative to a MOAB would be a series of precisely-aligned bombs, always hitting the exact same spot, to blast through the 30 ft (or whatever) of concrete

That kind of precision alignment is not possible with high-speed missiles, but synchronized slower-moving drones might be able to pull it off ... we've seen some pretty amazingly well-coordinated attacks in Ukraine ... if anyone can invent a workable hack, it's Israel!
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Flock headed to Guam/Diego Garcia right now arrive Tehran around dusk.

Not MOAB. GBU57a/b (MOB) Massive Ordinance Penetrators aboard.
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Flock headed to Guam/Diego Garcia right now arrive Tehran around dusk.

Not MOAB. GBU57a/b (MOB) Massive Ordinance Penetrators aboard.

And we have this info because .............?
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Flock headed to Guam/Diego Garcia right now arrive Tehran around dusk.

Not MOAB. GBU57a/b (MOB) Massive Ordinance Penetrators aboard.

How can this be? Did a Federal judge approve of this?  tipping hat!!
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And we have this info because .............?

On Iran's target list for delivery of a nuke, the US is first in line. Destroying the Great Satan has always been Iran's prime target. Israel is #2, while Rome is #3. They hoped to hit all 3 simultaneously to trigger a full on nuclear war which would bring their 12th Imam out of the Well he climbed into circa 850 AD. Its their religion.
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How can this be? Did a Federal judge approve of this?  tipping hat!!

There must be at least one Federal judge working the case. He/she/it will likely order the US to retrieve the dropped  bombs ...
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I reckon Mr. Trump realizes the mullahs won't agree to his terms.

The two weeks is to let Israel do its job on 'em first.

Before we go in with "the Big One" and finish off the job at the centrifuge site.

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We would never land a B-2 this close to an enemy.  The B-2s we used against the Taliban were based in Missouri and literally flew around the world to strike their targets.  Any B-2 strikes against Iran would be based far away from any threats.  Somewhere like Diego Garcia.
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CNN is reporting the USAF just destroyed three hardened Iranian nuclear facilities.

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RUSSIA MUST BE DESTROYED!!!

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CNN is reporting the USAF just destroyed three hardened Iranian nuclear facilities.

 :yowsa:

 :yowsa: Let the Israelis take it from here.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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BREAKING: Widespread and unprecedented airstrikes are being reported by locals across Iran

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https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/1936576575287292289
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Fordow is gone.

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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien