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New: Trump Gives Bombshell 1AM Presser, Slams Emmanuel Macron, Slaps Down 'Ceasefire' Reports

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/06/17/new-trump-gives-bombshell-1am-presser-slams-emmanuel-macron-slaps-down-iran-ceasefire-reports-n2190573

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That last quote also included this line when asked about DNI Tulsi Gabbard's assertion in March that Iran had no nuclear weapons program.

TRUMP: "I don't care what she said. I think they were very close to having them."




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President Donald Trump returned from the G7 Summit in Canada with a message that’s sent chills down spines worldwide, hinting at a dramatic escalation in the Israel-Iran conflict. The video, shared by Joey Mannarino US on X, captures Trump leaning toward journalists at Joint Base Andrews, his voice low and deliberate as he declares his goal is not a ceasefire but “A REAL END” to conflicts in the region. The footage, amplified by RapidResponse47 and stillgray on X, shows Trump stepping off the plane, his expression resolute, the early morning light casting long shadows. His Truth Social post, posted just hours earlier, doubles down: “Publicity seeking President Emmanuel Macron, of France, mistakenly said that I left the G7 Summit, in Canada, to go back to D.C. to work on a ‘cease fire’ between Israel and Iran. Wrong! He has no idea why I am now on my way to Washington, but it certainly has nothing to do with a Cease Fire. Much bigger than that. Whether purposely or not, Emmanuel always gets it wrong. Stay Tuned!”


This could mean WW3!

Iran has brokered terrorism for long enough but on another hand we don't want new wars!

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IDF General: War Will Not End Until Missile, Nuclear Threat Destroyed

Israel will not stop fighting Iran until it has destroyed the Iranian regime’s ballistic missiles and its nuclear facilities, Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Operations Directorate chief Maj. Gen. Oded Basiuk said Tuesday. Basiuk spoke as speculation mounted about a possible

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Questioning the actions of Israel and our role in them is not "Jew hate" ---- it is a moral imperative.

Got to strongly disagree RIV.  There is no moral comparison  comparing Muslim terrorism and what Israel provides in the region. 

9-11 should have taught you that.   The Iranians targeted population centers, Israelis military targets/. How many American military has been killed by Iran and their proxies?
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Do you actually read the things you write, before you post? Iran has been working on Nukes for a minimum of 20 years. Iran wants to destroy Israel and has been pursuing that since the Shah was deposed.

Did you read the text I was responding to?  Netanyahu claimed in 1992 that Iran was 3-5 years away from having a nuke.  Last weekend he said 12-13 months.  If they have been working "as fast as they could" this whole time, something doesn't quite add up. 

From what we know, after the inspections deal was cancelled, Iran took the opportunity to become a threshold state.  And that was a mistake, because it provided a pretext for an attack.  However, it made sense to do this if they wanted the ability to build a weapon in short order, in case they were targeted for regime change (kinda like what is actually happening now).

We live in an information age, and in upcoming political campaigns, much discussion will be had over what lead to this dreadful situation.  Right now it looks like the administration had reopened negotiations, those were still ongoing, and somebody just decided to kill the negotiators and launch a massive war.  Unless we find evidence that Iran was building a bomb, the path is paved for a left wing populist.

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Did you read the text I was responding to?  Netanyahu claimed in 1992 that Iran was 3-5 years away from having a nuke.  Last weekend he said 12-13 months.  If they have been working "as fast as they could" this whole time, something doesn't quite add up. 

From what we know, after the inspections deal was cancelled, Iran took the opportunity to become a threshold state.  And that was a mistake, because it provided a pretext for an attack.  However, it made sense to do this if they wanted the ability to build a weapon in short order, in case they were targeted for regime change (kinda like what is actually happening now).

We live in an information age, and in upcoming political campaigns, much discussion will be had over what lead to this dreadful situation.  Right now it looks like the administration had reopened negotiations, those were still ongoing, and somebody just decided to kill the negotiators and launch a massive war.  Unless we find evidence that Iran was building a bomb, the path is paved for a left wing populist.

I don't doubt that Iran was near to having full nuclear capabilities.

Israel found Iran carried out key tests for nuke design ahead of strikes — report

Israel said to believe Tehran decided to build bomb after Oct. 7 massacre; intel officials told politicians Iran could be even further along in process than previously thought............

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-found-iran-carried-out-key-tests-for-nuke-design-ahead-of-strikes-report/

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Gaza needed to be razed.  Period.

Not until/unless a home was arranged for its 2 million residents.  This is a humanitarian crisis (regardless of whether Republicans consider muslims to be human) and it's only getting worse.

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You mean the one you just made up out of thin air in order to support your political opinion?
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China’s Covert Cargo Flight to Iran Sparks Global Crisis: Transponder Blackout Ignites Fears of World War

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A major global twist has shaken the already tense conflict between Israel and Iran. According to startling reports, China may have quietly entered the war zone, sending a cargo plane to Tehran in what many are calling a direct and dangerous challenge to both the United States and Israel.

Mysterious Flight Raises Global Alarms
The suspicious part? The Chinese plane turned off its transponder, the electronic device that helps air traffic controllers track aircraft in the sky. When a plane disables this system, it becomes nearly invisible to radar. This secretive act has raised serious eyebrows, especially when paired with long-standing suspicions that China could be supplying weapons to Iran behind the scenes.

Experts believe this isn’t just another routine flight. It signals a covert military operation that could include banned equipment, advanced weapon systems, or critical supplies meant to fuel Iran’s ongoing defense against Israeli strikes.

The incident has rattled diplomatic circles and sent strong ripples through the intelligence community. Turning off the transponder is considered a major red flag in aviation, usually associated with military missions, espionage, or unauthorized cargo delivery. In war-sensitive regions like the Middle East, such actions only add to the fear of global escalation.

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The Chinese plane turned off its transponder, the electronic device that helps air traffic controllers track aircraft in the sky. When a plane disables this system, it becomes nearly invisible to radar.

That is almost laughable. Almost invisible?  Yeah right..sure.  whatever.
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That is almost laughable. Almost invisible?  Yeah right..sure.  whatever.

And Walz suggested the Chicoms broker a peace deal.   How and why the citizens of MN haven't had a strait jacket placed on this idiot is a mystery.
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China’s Covert Cargo Flight to Iran Sparks Global Crisis: Transponder Blackout Ignites Fears of World War

Story by Deftech Desk


A major global twist has shaken the already tense conflict between Israel and Iran. According to startling reports, China may have quietly entered the war zone, sending a cargo plane to Tehran in what many are calling a direct and dangerous challenge to both the United States and Israel.

Mysterious Flight Raises Global Alarms

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-s-covert-cargo-flight-to-iran-sparks-global-crisis-transponder-blackout-ignites-fears-of-world-war/ar-AA1GMdjQ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDBBAN&cvid=6e372242746c451c901ed66cb600bc75&ei=23

Troubling, for sure.  I suspect our intel has a fair idea of what is in play here.
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That is almost laughable. Almost invisible?  Yeah right..sure.  whatever.

You can bet that every airplane in and out of Iran is being carefully tracked - transponder on or off.

It is also possible China is moving evidence of their cooperation with Iran's nuclear ambitions out of Iran before it is exposed. Who knows.

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Not until/unless a home was arranged for its 2 million residents.  This is a humanitarian crisis (regardless of whether Republicans consider muslims to be human) and it's only getting worse.

Hamas is a different animal. It is largely venomous subterranean vermin who come out only to strike. They built their network beneath a somewhat knowing population that act as a shield for the festering below.
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UPDATE: The last missile barrage was:

2 missiles

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You mean the one you just made up out of thin air in order to support your political opinion?

No, not at all.  It's the sect that gained political prominence under the moniker "the Christian Right".

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The internet is now down in large parts of Iran

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No, not at all.  It's the sect that gained political prominence under the moniker "the Christian Right".

Like I said, the one you just made up out of thin air.
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Hamas is a different animal. It is largely venomous subterranean vermin who come out only to strike.

And yet, the Israeli government authorized almost a billion US dollars in (unaudited) cash transfers through the years to Hamas from Qatar (the last time in Sept 2023). That quirky Middle East sure is confusing, isn't it.   :shrug:

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Iran launched another 8 ballistic missiles against Israel less than an hour ago.

None of them made it through Israel’s air defense systems.

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1934986653581373922
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Like I said, the one you just made up out of thin air.

Good grief, you're overdue for a vowel purchase.   :laugh:

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And yet, the Israeli government authorized almost a billion US dollars in (unaudited) cash transfers through the years to Hamas from Qatar (the last time in Sept 2023).

All through international agreement (one which you likely backed since you have not once voiced opposition to it).  Not by Israel's own volition.  But then you knew that already since you've been called out on this same claim before.  Yet here you are pushing the same lie.  Again.
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Good grief, you're overdue for a vowel purchase.   :laugh:

The correct response here would be to provide proof of your claim.  But you can't.  Because you made it up out of thin air.
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All through international agreement (one which you likely backed since you have not once voiced opposition to it).  Not by Israel's own volition.  But then you knew that already since you've been called out on this same claim before.  Yet here you are pushing the same lie.  Again.

Buy the vowel, dear.   88devil




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Look, I'm seeing this from the inside, and am admittedly biased towards our president (and my friend), but there's a lot of crazy stuff on social media, so I wanted to address some things directly on the Iran issue:

First, POTUS has been amazingly consistent, over 10 years, that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Over the last few months, he encouraged his foreign policy team to reach a deal with the Iranians to accomplish this goal. The president has made clear that Iran cannot have uranium enrichment. And he said repeatedly that this would happen one of two ways--the easy way or the "other" way.

Second, I've seen a lot of confusion over the issue of "civilian nuclear power" and "uranium enrichment." These are distinct issues. Iran could have civilian nuclear power without enrichment, but Iran rejected that. Meanwhile, they've enriched uranium far above the level necessary for any civilian purpose. They've been found in violation of their non-proliferation obligations by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which is hardly a rightwing organization.

It's one thing to want civilian nuclear energy. It's another thing to demand sophisticated enrichment capacity. And it's still another to cling to enrichment while simultaneously violating basic non-proliferation obligations and enriching right to the point of weapons-grade uranium.

I have yet to see a single good argument for why Iran needed to enrich uranium well above the threshold for civilian use. I've yet to see a single good argument for why Iran was justified in violating its non-proliferation obligations. I've yet to see a single good pushback against the IAEA's findings.

Meanwhile, the president has shown remarkable restraint in keeping our military's focus on protecting our troops and protecting our citizens.

He may decide he needs to take further action to end Iranian enrichment. That decision ultimately belongs to the president. And of course, people are right to be worried about foreign entanglement after the last 25 years of idiotic foreign policy.

But I believe the president has earned some trust on this issue. And having seen this up close and personal, I can assure you that he is only interested in using the American military to accomplish the American people's goals. Whatever he does, that is his focus.
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Now that the US and Israel have given the Iranians a powerful incentive to develop nukes, they pretty much have to obliterate the underground facilities.  Best of luck with that endeavor.

However, the warning aimed at the residents of Tehran is utterly horrific.  Is Trump planning to nuke Tehran, or launch some gigantic assault that would kill tens of thousands of people?  He is ending his presidency this week.
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Yeah, just like 90% of housing units Gaza were razed because those buildings were concealing tunnels and weaponry. 

30 years is a long time to be pursuing a bomb “as fast as they can” wouldn’t you say?  Those persian scientists must be paid by the hour.
Backwards thinking.

The tunnels came AFTER the houses were constructed.

To say the way you describe it is a miserable deception.
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Buy the vowel, dear.   88devil

Suitcases of $15M in cash from Qatar bring relief for Gaza

Oren Liebermann, Michael Schwartz, Ibrahim Dahman and Mohammed Najib  -  November 11, 2018  |  3:57 PM EST


After months of negotiations  .  .  .

A spokesman for Hamas, Abdel Latif al-Qanua, told CNN on Sunday: “These Qatari efforts that started months ago .  .  .

.  .  He said the money would be used to pay for salaries, while also contributing to medical care of the wounded after often violent clashes along the Gaza border.  .  .

.  .  Negotiations for the financial package to Gaza began months earlier, following the Palestinian Authority’s decision to cut salaries of employees in Gaza last year  .  .

.  .  In late June, Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman met Qatari Foreign Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani in Cyprus to finalize the financial arrangement  .  .

.  .  Approval of the arrangement came in August during a security cabinet meeting.  .  .

.  .  Speaking on Saturday night before a flight to Paris, Netanyahu defended the initiative, saying: “I’m doing everything I can in coordination with security experts to return calm to (Israeli) villages of the south, but also to prevent a humanitarian disaster (in Gaza). It’s a process. I think at this time, this is the right step.”  .  .

.  .  Majdalani accused the United States of orchestrating the payment, adding that Hamas was working to be a part of the Trump administration’s peace proposal. Both the Palestinian Authority and Hamas have repeatedly rejected any proposal put forward by the United States.

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Like I said, all through international agreement.
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Reads like a teleprompter used by a CNN correspondent

How do you know it wasn't?
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Look, I'm seeing this from the inside, and am admittedly biased towards our president (and my friend), but there's a lot of crazy stuff on social media, so I wanted to address some things directly on the Iran issue:

First, POTUS has been amazingly consistent, over 10 years, that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Over the last few months, he encouraged his foreign policy team to reach a deal with the Iranians to accomplish this goal. The president has made clear that Iran cannot have uranium enrichment. And he said repeatedly that this would happen one of two ways--the easy way or the "other" way.

Second, I've seen a lot of confusion over the issue of "civilian nuclear power" and "uranium enrichment." These are distinct issues. Iran could have civilian nuclear power without enrichment, but Iran rejected that. Meanwhile, they've enriched uranium far above the level necessary for any civilian purpose. They've been found in violation of their non-proliferation obligations by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which is hardly a rightwing organization.

It's one thing to want civilian nuclear energy. It's another thing to demand sophisticated enrichment capacity. And it's still another to cling to enrichment while simultaneously violating basic non-proliferation obligations and enriching right to the point of weapons-grade uranium.

I have yet to see a single good argument for why Iran needed to enrich uranium well above the threshold for civilian use. I've yet to see a single good argument for why Iran was justified in violating its non-proliferation obligations. I've yet to see a single good pushback against the IAEA's findings.

Meanwhile, the president has shown remarkable restraint in keeping our military's focus on protecting our troops and protecting our citizens.

He may decide he needs to take further action to end Iranian enrichment. That decision ultimately belongs to the president. And of course, people are right to be worried about foreign entanglement after the last 25 years of idiotic foreign policy.

But I believe the president has earned some trust on this issue. And having seen this up close and personal, I can assure you that he is only interested in using the American military to accomplish the American people's goals. Whatever he does, that is his focus.

And yet @RiV still can't bring herself to believe Trump isn't being manipulated by Bibbi... That Iran isn't our problem and that Trump isn't taking the lead on this.

Trump has repeatedly said Iran cannot have nuclear weapons. There is no wiggle room in that statement. But she refuses to listen to his clear intent.

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Israel says it killed a top Iranian general as Trump warns people to flee Iranian capital
Story by JOSEPH KRAUSS, JON GAMBRELL and NATALIE MELZER • 11h 
 
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Israel claimed Tuesday to have killed a top Iranian general as it traded more strikes with its longtime foe, and U.S. President Donald Trump warned residents of Tehran to evacuate while suggesting that the United States could give up on negotiations.
 
Trump left the Group of Seven summit in Canada a day early to deal with the conflict between Israel and Iran, telling reporters on Air Force One during the flight back to Washington: “I’m not looking at a ceasefire. We’re looking at better than a ceasefire.”
 
When asked to explain, he said the U.S. wanted to see "a real end" to the conflict that could involve Iran “giving up entirely." He added: “I’m not too much in the mood to negotiate.”

Trump's hard line added to the uncertainty roiling the region on the fifth day of Israel's air campaign aimed at Iran's military and nuclear program. Residents of Tehran fled their homes in droves, and the U.N. nuclear watchdog for the first time said Israeli strikes on Iran's main enrichment facility at Natanz had also damaged its main underground section, not just an above-ground facility, as previously acknowledged.

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Interesting on how quiet the Arab world is. How quiet Turkey is. And even how quiet the Vatican is currently.

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And yet @RiV still can't bring herself to believe Trump isn't being manipulated by Bibbi... That Iran isn't our problem and that Trump isn't taking the lead on this.

Three points ....

First, before you go all expert on us, learn to spell this horribly complicated name; it's:  Bibi.

Second, I am of the opinion that Bibi did and continues to manipulate the POTUS and the American people --- just as the President calls for an end to the war on Gaza and inches closer to negotiations with Iran, Netanyahu bombs Tehran, publishes his latest kill list and dares the US not to finish the job he wants done.

Another measurement of this grand manipulator, Benjamin Netanyahu,  is that the tip of his spear continues to be emotional blackmail --- from using the Holocaust to threats that Iran will kill you next.  Netanyahu plays Americans better than anyone and he has tormented every POTUS with his "existential" need for America to blindly support and assist with his every kill ---  be it a child or a Mullah.

Third, I trust Trump to do what is best for this nation, our blood and our treasure to the best of his ability.  I wish Trump Godspeed.

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Not until/unless a home was arranged for its 2 million residents.  This is a humanitarian crisis (regardless of whether Republicans consider muslims to be human) and it's only getting worse.
people there chose to engage in the activity that caused destruction.
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How do you know it wasn't?
Good thought.

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Interesting on how quiet the Arab world is. How quiet Turkey is. And even how quiet the Vatican is currently.

It's like when the black majority remained abnormally silent when Juicy Smollay was attacked at 2am on his way to a Subway for a meatball sub in minus 10 degree weather by two white dudes in MAGA hats. 
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Three points ....

First, before you go all expert on us, learn to spell this horribly complicated name; it's:  Bibi.

Second, I am of the opinion that Bibi did and continues to manipulate the POTUS and the American people --- just as the President calls for an end to the war on Gaza and inches closer to negotiations with Iran, Netanyahu bombs Tehran, publishes his latest kill list and dares the US not to finish the job he wants done.

Another measurement of this grand manipulator, Benjamin Netanyahu,  is that the tip of his spear continues to be emotional blackmail --- from using the Holocaust to threats that Iran will kill you next.  Netanyahu plays Americans better than anyone and he has tormented every POTUS with his "existential" need for America to blindly support and assist with his every kill ---  be it a child or a Mullah.

Third, I trust Trump to do what is best for this nation, our blood and our treasure to the best of his ability.  I wish Trump Godspeed.

And Bibi is doing what is best for the people of Israel. It is also notable that Israel is receiving direct and indirect support in this action from Jordan, Iraq, Turkey, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.
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Three points ....

First, before you go all expert on us, learn to spell this horribly complicated name; it's:  Bibi.

Second, I am of the opinion that Bibi did and continues to manipulate the POTUS and the American people --- just as the President calls for an end to the war on Gaza and inches closer to negotiations with Iran, Netanyahu bombs Tehran, publishes his latest kill list and dares the US not to finish the job he wants done.

Another measurement of this grand manipulator, Benjamin Netanyahu,  is that the tip of his spear continues to be emotional blackmail --- from using the Holocaust to threats that Iran will kill you next.  Netanyahu plays Americans better than anyone and he has tormented every POTUS with his "existential" need for America to blindly support and assist with his every kill ---  be it a child or a Mullah.

Third, I trust Trump to do what is best for this nation, our blood and our treasure to the best of his ability.  I wish Trump Godspeed.

The part I bolded is utter tripe @Right_in_Virginia ! Bibi has continuously said that he has no problem with the Iranian people and that his problem is with their current leadership i.e. the Mullah requiem. I fully agree with him and do not appreciate your attempts at sophistry WRT what he has said or done.

Also, I fully agree with your last sentence.
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You really got lost in the weeds of a tangent here ⬆️ @240B  :laugh:   

Let me see if I can help you with this.  Here's your post, the one I responded to:

My answer....

My point:   Religion in politics is not found only in the Muslim world.  This ⬆️ Amercan Christian sect is formidable in size and influence with the power to choose candidates, determine election outcomes and pressure decisions affecting US policy toward Israel.

What, if anything, have I gotten wrong about this?
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Well, that was not your point at all. You are a liar. And you are an extremely arrogant pompous condescending agitator. The biggest mistake I made in my post was responding to you. You are not a serious person. You are no different than Antifa or all the pro-Hamas protesters. There is no way to reason or debate with you because your mind is already made up. You know it all already. No need for debate if you can never be wrong.

You seem to be pro-Putin in Ukraine, pro-Hamas in Israel and anti-Christian/anti-Jewish in America. Good luck with all that ... being on the wrong side of everything must be a heavy stone to carry around all the time.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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It's like when the black majority remained abnormally silent when Juicy Smollay was attacked at 2am on his way to a Subway for a meatball sub in minus 10 degree weather by two white dudes in MAGA hats.

You have a very unique way of boiling things down @Wingnut I like it!

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Merged with Israel-Iran topic.

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This could mean WW3!


Why? Do you think Russia or China or anyone else will go to war on behalf of Iran?
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Three points ....

First, before you go all expert on us, learn to spell this horribly complicated name; it's:  Bibi.

Second, I am of the opinion that Bibi did and continues to manipulate the POTUS and the American people --- just as the President calls for an end to the war on Gaza and inches closer to negotiations with Iran, Netanyahu bombs Tehran, publishes his latest kill list and dares the US not to finish the job he wants done.

Another measurement of this grand manipulator, Benjamin Netanyahu,  is that the tip of his spear continues to be emotional blackmail --- from using the Holocaust to threats that Iran will kill you next.  Netanyahu plays Americans better than anyone and he has tormented every POTUS with his "existential" need for America to blindly support and assist with his every kill ---  be it a child or a Mullah.

Third, I trust Trump to do what is best for this nation, our blood and our treasure to the best of his ability.  I wish Trump Godspeed.

So, my typo is your great enlightenment... Thanks...

You contradict yourself yet again. You say you trust Trump to do what's best for our nation while at the same time saying he's a patsy for Bibi and Israel... It can't be both.

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And Bibi is doing what is best for the people of Israel. It is also notable that Israel is receiving direct and indirect support in this action from Jordan, Iraq, Turkey, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.

Good news @MeganC.  ---- thanks for sharing it.  Sounds like the guys in the neighborhood are working together and have it all under control.  More proof the time for the US to grab our wallet and leave the Middle East has arrived at last!    It's wonderful not to be needed.  :beer: