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Depth of the Fordow Facility:

The facility is built inside a mountain, near the village of Fordow (about 30 km south of the city of Qom).

It is estimated to be located about 80–100 meters underground, inside rocky terrain.

The Iranians defined it as capable of withstanding conventional air bombings- therefore it is underground and heavily fortified.

The site was previously used for uranium enrichment up to 20%.

After the 2015 nuclear agreement (JCPOA), enrichment there stopped, and the facility was converted for research purposes - but Iran resumed high-level uranium enrichment there, especially after the U.S. withdrew from the agreement in 2018.

According to the IAEA, uranium is currently enriched there up to 60% - very close to weapons-grade level.

Attack considerations:

Due to its depth and the surrounding mountainous structure, bombing Fordow is considered very technically challenging and requires:

- Bunker-busting bombs (e.g., GBU-57)
- Other tactics, such as physical infiltration, cyberattacks, or sabotage from within.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Israeli forces physically reach the facility and eliminate everything there.



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Religious fanatics are the truly scary ones as they believe they are on a mission from god and be willing to die for him.
That's why so many countries in the world are terrified of Iran getting nuclear weapons. Mutually Assured Destruction theory does not work on the mullahs. They WANT Armageddon. They WANT the end of the world. No matter how many billions have to die for it.
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🚨 U.S. Navy repositioning assets to defend Israel

- Destroyer USS Thomas Hudner (DDG 116) moving to the eastern Med
- 8 additional destroyers available in 5th + 6th Fleets
- Vinson CSG still in CENTCOM (Nimitz CSG in INDOPACOM could be redirected)

Tracking at least 26 ships:



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Trump gave Iran 60 days to negotiate and they refused. On day 61, Bibi unleashed Hell.  I don't see the problem.

For one thing, the US switched its demand to zero enrichment (at the behest of our Israeli overlords) after the Iranians had spent something like $100 billion on a nuclear program.  Iran was never going to agree to that.  Try to imagine how our behavior is perceived.  We "altered" the previous deal, à la Darth Vader, and then we created tension by setting an artificial deadline to meet an unreasonable demand.  Meanwhile, we operate nuclear power plants and sell our oil on the world market.  But we have always been a benevolent superpower, you might say.  Well, some folks in Japan might disagree.  We looked the other way when Israel acquired nukes (some of which were possibly stolen from us).  The Israeli government is an existential threat to the Iranian state in its present form, and they have made this clear. 

Let's assume, as is now sadly more likely than ever, the Iranians do pursue nuclear weapons.  It isn't at all obvious that they will explode them on foreign soil.  Iran is the home of an ancient civilization dating back thousands of years, and can grasp the concept of mutually assured destruction.  We tend to assume all islamists are suicidal, and that isn't the case.  Is this an outcome we should seek to avoid, by all means yes, but there was room to work with the Iranians without resorting to war.

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As Iran-Israel Conflict Escalates, Battered Hezbollah Stays Out of Fight

Tom O'Connor  |  Jun 13, 2025  |  Updated at 12:48 PM EDT


A Hezbollah spokesperson told Newsweek on Friday that the Lebanese group remains committed to a ceasefire agreement with Israel after the country launched a sweeping series of attacks against Iran.

"Hezbollah is committed to the ceasefire agreement, even though Israel has not respected this commitment over the past period," the spokesperson said. "It continues to kill, assassinate, and attack areas, including entering border villages and remaining at the five points."

Reuters also cited a Hezbollah official on Friday as saying that the group "will not initiate its own attack on Israel in retaliation for Israel's strike."  .  .  .

https://www.newsweek.com/iran-israel-conflict-escalates-battered-hezbollah-stays-out-fight-2085115
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I'm still not convinced Trump green-lighted the Israeli attack on Iran @cato potatoe   I know what he's saying now, but this is part US face-saving and part negotiations-saving,  IMHO. 

Your points are well taken, but at the same time, we deserve to know if Netanyahu went rogue.

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Your points are well taken, but at the same time, we deserve to know if Netanyahu went rogue.

What part of "Iran cannot have nuclear weapons" isn't clear?

Trump said that.

They were given 60 days to come to a resolution towards that end. They rejected it.

There's no wiggle room in that statement.

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Make no mistake, Israel has people on the ground in Iran who are privy to everything.

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What part of "Iran cannot have nuclear weapons" isn't clear?

Trump said that.

They were given 60 days to come to a resolution towards that end. They rejected it.

There's no wiggle room in that statement.

Trump says a lot of things, doesn't he.  Just recently, he said "WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY ENRICHMENT OF URANIUM," which is a long way from weapons grade.  Does he understand the difference, and what are the Iranians to make of this? 

According to the US Director of National Intelligence, Iran was not building a nuclear bomb.  Why do we have a massive intelligence apparatus, if we're going to defer to Netanyahu on the most important details?  He just tried to assassinate the lead negotiator.  The man is not to be trusted with our wellbeing. 

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So, 45 years isn't enough time to convince you that there is no negotiating with them. How much more time would you like? 5 years? 10? 20? When do we say ENOUGH? @cato potatoe

The other way to prevent this existential crisis could have been to denuclearize Israel and turn all of the Middle East into a nuclear free zone.

Granted, it would mean ending Israel's Samson option... the one Golda was so fond of.... but could have been worth it. (The "Samson option" refers to the nuclear strategy where Israel would launch a nuclear retaliatory strike if the state itself was being overrun, just as the Biblical figure Samson is said to have pushed apart the pillars of a Philistine temple, bringing down the roof and killing himself.)

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Israelis viewed nuclear weapons as the ultimate guarantor for the existence of a Jewish state since the 1960s. However, they continued to catch up in the conventional domain vis-à-vis their Arab neighbors. According to Seymour Hersh and Israeli historian Avner Cohen, Israeli leaders like David Ben Gurion, Shimon Peres, Levi Ashkol, and Moshe Dayan coined the biblical term Samson option in the 1960s.

The Samson option can be employed in case conventional deterrence fails. The CIA believed as early as 1976, the Israelis had stockpiled 10-20 nuclear weapons. By 2002, it was estimated that the stockpiled number had increased to more than 75 thermonuclear weapons. In 2006, George W. Bush’s defense secretary, Robert Gates, admitted in a senate hearing that Israel has nuclear weapons, and two years later, former US President Jimmy Carter also said that the number of Israeli nuclear warheads is more than 150. Those testimonies by senior US officials establish the fact that Israel does possess nuclear weapon capability.

Similarly, in the 1973 Yom Kippur War, IDF was again outnumbered by the invading Arab armies. Then Israeli PM Golda Meir authorized a nuclear alert and ordered that nuclear warheads be readied for launch from missiles and aircraft. The Israeli ambassador to the US, Simcha Dinitz, met with Henry Kissinger to inform President Nixon of “Very serious conclusions” if the US did not airlift arms supplies to the IDF. Nixon complied with this demand due to the threat of the use of nuclear forces. This was the first successful use of the Samson option as a threat and tantamount to nuclear blackmail.

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Make no mistake, Israel has people on the ground in Iran who are privy to everything.

Yet, the same groups on the ground in Israel miss everything from tunnels, to military weapons, to training exercises to attack plans from their other existential threat.  How is this explained?

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Granted, it would mean ending Israel's Samson option... the one Golda was so fond of.... but could have been worth it. (The "Samson option" refers to the nuclear strategy where Israel would launch a nuclear retaliatory strike if the state itself was being overrun, just as the Biblical figure Samson is said to have pushed apart the pillars of a Philistine temple, bringing down the roof and killing himself.)

Samson was co-dependent.  Golda was not.  Neither is Bibi.  Let's not compare some long-haired hippy with a broken chooser against an entire nation.  Back then, Samson wasn't being overrun.  Israel wasn't being threatened.
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That's why so many countries in the world are terrified of Iran getting nuclear weapons. Mutually Assured Destruction theory does not work on the mullahs. They WANT Armageddon. They WANT the end of the world. No matter how many billions have to die for it.

Isn't there a Christian sect watching and waiting for Armageddon against Israel so Jesus will come back @240B






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Did Iran ever show that pilot from the fighter jet they shot down,

Visual proof of Iranian shoot down of an F-35, surrounded by giant Iranians:
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Rumors of Khameni’s death on Sunday.

There were a lot of strikes in Tehran. Roads out of town reportedly jammed, gasoline sales being limited to 15 liters.

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“If foreign forces ever enter Iran, we will burn this country to the ground. The people are our shield and our hostages.” —Ali Khamenei 2005

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That's why so many countries in the world are terrified of Iran getting nuclear weapons. Mutually Assured Destruction theory does not work on the mullahs. They WANT Armageddon. They WANT the end of the world. No matter how many billions have to die for it.

The want to bring all of humanity to paradise which means evryone has to die,m not just the odd billion.
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Your points are well taken, but at the same time, we deserve to know if Netanyahu went rogue.
Yeah, people who do not want to be nuked, and attack the one who has an announced policy of nuking them, goes rogue when they take the guy out. You are firmly in the camp of hating Israel and Jews, it seems: Israel can only attack Iran after Iran nukes them.
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The oil and gas producing, pipeline, refinery and export facilities are all fixed.  They can all be destroyed by air and missile strikes.

Iran will be decimated as its main source of income will be gone.

There is simply nothing Iran can do about it.

And all other countries depending primarily on oil have similar exposure
The world's largest gas field has now been hit and Iran's source of income there ceased.
This impacts Iran but also has big implications for Europe.

I see tariff issues coming into play here as well do to the rise in energy prices to the EU.

June 16, 2025
Is Europe Facing a New Energy Crisis?
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Israel’s recent military strike on Iran’s nuclear capabilities and the main artery of its energy sector has reshuffled the regional deck. For Europe, the attack could signal the onset of an energy policy disaster.

It is too early to fully assess Israel’s strategic attacks on Iran’s nuclear infrastructure and energy production. Yet one thing is already clear: alongside the systematic elimination of military and nuclear targets, the precision strike on the South Pars gas field marks a dramatic escalation of military events. Located on the Persian Gulf, South Pars is currently the world’s largest operational gas field and a central pillar of the Iranian regime’s economic stability. By targeting this facility, Israel has sent a clear signal that it aims to bring about regime change in Tehran -- and is willing to risk retaliatory attacks on its own energy infrastructure to achieve that end.

Hitting Iran’s Economic Lifeline

The June 14 attack on the gas field resulted in the immediate shutdown of one of its four production units. Daily output dropped by 12 million cubic meters -- a roughly 4.4 percent decrease in Iran’s daily gas production, which totals approximately 275 billion cubic meters annually. With a domestic gas price of around $0.07 per cubic meter, the Iranian regime is now losing an estimated $840,000 per day. This is a serious blow to the country’s energy sector, as South Pars is Iran’s most important energy source.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/06/is_europe_facing_a_new_energy_crisis.html
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The Iranian Mullahs are learning Montezuma’s lesson
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I was reading the Mossad X account, which tweeted about regional interests that have come out in support of Israel. Thinking about this, I realized that I’ve seen this before—and then it hit me: We’re witnessing the fall of the Aztecs.

The Aztec Empire was a marvelous place: Well-organized, scientifically and architecturally innovative, and very, very wealthy. It was also a military powerhouse, eventually becoming the dominant power in the region.

However, as far as the Aztecs were concerned, their success was owed to their gods, and their gods were hungry gods who especially loved human hearts. While the gods would occasionally crave Aztec hearts as the highest form of sacrifice, the priests concluded that they would be satisfied with hearts from the prisoners the Aztecs collected during their successful regional wars.
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“If foreign forces ever enter Iran, we will burn this country to the ground. The people are our shield and our hostages.” —Ali Khamenei 2005

Heartwarming mindset.

He's like 86, I wonder why he isn't room temp by now?  By natural causes that is.

Israel could have eliminated Khamenei on the first night of the operation They say the Israeli government chose to keep him alive to give him a final chance to decide on completely dismantling the Islamic Republic’s uranium enrichment program.
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Isn't there a Christian sect watching and waiting for Armageddon against Israel so Jesus will come back @240B ?
That'd be pretty small compared to the number of Muslims waiting for the 12th Imam (Muhammad al-Mahdi) to come crawling out of the well. The twelver Shia are the largest sect of Shia Muslims. Keep in mind, if you die as a shaheed, you get 72 virgins, too. Mutually Assured Destruction holds no sway over people who are itching to go to paradise.
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That'd be pretty small compared to the number of Muslims waiting for the 12th Imam (Muhammad al-Mahdi) to come crawling out of the well. The twelver Shia are the largest sect of Shia Muslims. Keep in mind, if you die as a shaheed, you get 72 virgins, too. Mutually Assured Destruction holds no sway over people who are itching to go to paradise.

:amen: And to make myself perfectly clear, I LOVE the Iranian people! It's the Mullahs and Jimmah CAAATA that I despise!
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“If foreign forces ever enter Iran, we will burn this country to the ground. The people are our shield and our hostages.” —Ali Khamenei 2005

Heartwarming mindset.

Is this different from the Israeli nuclear Samson option @Lando Lincoln ?

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:amen: And to make myself perfectly clear, I LOVE the Iranian people! It's the Mullahs and Jimmah CAAATA that I despise!

The 1978 "Girls Of Iran" Playboy issue was hotter than two rats screwing in a wool sack tossed on a middle east desert in the summer..
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The 1978 "Girls Of Iran" Playboy issue was hotter than two rats screwing in a wool sack tossed on a middle east desert in the summer..
That was before the Ayatolah's bunch bagged 'em up.
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The 1978 "Girls Of Iran" Playboy issue was hotter than two rats screwing in a wool sack tossed on a middle east desert in the summer..

I've spent a few long weekends in the snow-covered mountains around Isfahan back in the day and saw the sights with my own two eyes @Wingnut
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I've spent a few long weekends in the snow-covered mountains around Isfahan back in the day and saw the sights with my own two eyes @Wingnut

Lot of light skinned blue and green eyed blonde persian women !  What's not to like!
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'Strategic Decapitation': Israel Expands Operations, Targeting Iranian Political Institutions as Netanyahu Taunts 'Weak' Regime in Tehran

Iran's foreign ministry and defense ministry both took hits on Sunday

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June 15, 2025


Israel pummeled hundreds of targets across Iran on Sunday, hitting Tehran’s military leadership, government buildings, and weapons depots—significantly intensifying operations meant to cripple the Islamic Republic’s nuclear infrastructure and destroy its hardline regime. President Donald Trump, meanwhile, said "it’s possible" the United States could enter the fray.

Israel bombed multiple Iranian energy sites overnight, settling ablaze fuel depots the regime uses to feed its military and lucrative commercial oil industry. The Israeli Air Force (IAF) hit Iran’s foreign ministry compound along with the Islamic Republic’s defense ministry and other operational outposts central to the regime’s planned retaliatory strikes.

Israel has demonstrated through these operations that it is willing to target the Iranian regime’s centralized ruling architecture, not just its contested nuclear sites.

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https://freebeacon.com/israel/strategic-decapitation-israel-expands-operations-targeting-iranian-political-institutions-as-netanyahu-taunts-weak-regime-in-tehran/
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Lot of light skinned blue and green eyed blonde persian women !  What's not to like!

If you ever tell my wife I said this, I'll kill you but the most beautiful woman I ever laid eyes on was Persian.
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