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DHS Chief Kristi Noem Announces All Adult U.S. Citizens Must Have REAL ID to Fly Starting May — Here Are Other Forms of Identification You Can Use
by Jim Hᴏft Apr. 12, 2025 4:40 pm

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem has announced that effective May 7, 2025, all adult U.S. citizens must present a REAL ID-compliant form of identification or a valid passport to board domestic flights and access federal facilities.

This enforcement marks the culmination of the REAL ID Act, originally passed in 2005 following the 9/11 Commission’s recommendations to enhance the integrity and security of state-issued identification documents. ​

On December 17, 2018, President Trump signed the REAL ID Act Modification for Freely Associated States Act, Public Law 115-323.

“If you plan on traveling, we need your help to prevent delays and to prove your identity. Get a REAL ID. Starting May 7th, you will need a REAL ID to travel by air or to visit federal buildings in the United States,” Noem said in a video statement.

“These IDs keep our country safe because they help prevent fraud and enhance security. Please do your part to protect our country. Go today, and don’t delay.”

There are several other forms of identification you can use to fly.

According to TSA:

        State-issued Enhanced Driver’s License
        U.S. passport
        U.S. passport card
        DHS trusted traveler cards (Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST)
        U.S. Department of Defense ID, including IDs issued to dependents
        Permanent resident card
        Border crossing card
        An acceptable photo ID issued by a federally recognized Tribal Nation/Indian Tribe, including Enhanced Tribal Cards (ETCs).
        HSPD-12 PIV card
        Foreign government-issued passport
        Canadian provincial driver’s license or Indian and Northern Affairs Canada card
        Transportation worker identification credential
        U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Employment Authorization Card (I-766)
        U.S. Merchant Mariner Credential
        Veteran Health Identification Card (VHIC)

    Children

    TSA does not require children under 18 to provide identification when traveling within the United States. Contact the airline for questions regarding specific ID requirements for travelers under 18.

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Federal law enforcement flexing under the guise of this so-called 'conservative' administration.

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State-issued Enhanced Driver’s License

Works for mandatory voter id, too.

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Federal law enforcement flexing under the guise of this so-called 'conservative' administration.
We've had "Real ID" for a while now, denoted by the gold star on your driver's license (and here I thought that meant I was a good driver). I already thought that was required to fly.

I got the TSA PreCheck KTN, too, as it saves on some of the shoe removal and all that you normally have to do when flying.

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Necessary or not, the law's been on the books for 20 years. Funny how few squawked about it until now.
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Necessary or not, the law's been on the books for 20 years. Funny how few squawked about it until now.

As I posted on another thread, It's a state problem for not jumping into this back then. Blame those mostly blue liberal states that resisted, or past state laws against the Law (Maine was a perfect example).  FL has had real ID since 2010. 
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I know we got our real ID drivers' licenses several years ago. No big deal.
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We've had "Real ID" for a while now, denoted by the gold star on your driver's license (and here I thought that meant I was a good driver). I already thought that was required to fly.


Not here. MT has dragged its feet, As have other liberty minded states.
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Necessary or not, the law's been on the books for 20 years. Funny how few squawked about it until now.

I squawked then. And I squawked in between. I am obliged to provide ID - that is bad enough. 'Papers Please' was never to be uttered in these United States.

Furthermore - it is now not enough that my state says who I am through its own legislated method - Which it DOES, even now.  NOW I must be forced to toe a federal line instead.

Another nail in the coffin.

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Not here. MT has dragged its feet, As have other liberty minded states.
I got the TSA PreCheck KTN, too, as it saves on some of the shoe removal and all that you normally have to do when flying.
Real ID has been an option in ND for a while. I think there was a short window where that would get you in and out of Canada, so I got it to go to Geological conferences in Regina, but that deal rotates locations and before Regina came up again, you needed a passport. Never have had one of those. The KTN is great until some TSA flunky herds you into the wrong line (happened at Reagan, where white guys get the short end--'nuff said). I eventually got on the plane. Had no troubles in Denver, though, so it helped. I could have had to go through the whole rigamarole at every airport, so it was well worth it. At least my 'real ID' will still get me into Montana... :laugh:
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Real ID has been an option in ND for a while. I think there was a short window where that would get you in and out of Canada, so I got it to go to Geological conferences in Regina, but that deal rotates locations and before Regina came up again, you needed a passport. Never have had one of those. The KTN is great until some TSA flunky herds you into the wrong line (happened at Reagan, where white guys get the short end--'nuff said). I eventually got on the plane. Had no troubles in Denver, though, so it helped. I could have had to go through the whole rigamarole at every airport, so it was well worth it. At least my 'real ID' will still get me into Montana... :laugh:

I will never fly again. My disabilities aside, I flat will not subject myself to that sort of treatment.  I had considered REALID (it is offered here) only for the purpose of passing into Canada somewhat like it used to be - If all I have to do is show my MT issued REALID driver's license to gain regular admittance, then that would be worth it - Or so I thought.

Now it has become an even tighter stricture - REALID AND Passport to gain admittance.

Guess I won't be going to Canada either. Too bad too. I would like to pick up where I left off wrt Calgary Stampede. And a friend in inland BC has offered to put me on a moose from a UTV...

Not gonna happen with border nazis running the show.

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Irrespective of REAL ID, I've drastically cut back on travel plans. Flying is too expensive and a pain in the neck and I don't want to visit the Caliphate of Europe anymore. Right now, I'm planning a little 4-day tour of Civil War sites within less than a 5-hour drive.
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Irrespective of REAL ID, I've drastically cut back on travel plans. Flying is too expensive and a pain in the neck and I don't want to visit the Caliphate of Europe anymore. Right now, I'm planning a little 4-day tour of Civil War sites within less than a 5-hour drive.

I am jealous of you in that. I have natural beauty and wilderness all around, but other than some far flung ghost towns, history is chewed up around here. We don't have hardwoods, so very few cabins make it very far... 100 years is remarkable, and dang few. The West does not have much for history.

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What is the problem with state issued enhanced driver's licenses?

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What is the problem with state issued enhanced driver's licenses?

Exactly...my renewed drivers has the "circled star"

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I am jealous of you in that. I have natural beauty and wilderness all around, but other than some far flung ghost towns, history is chewed up around here. We don't have hardwoods, so very few cabins make it very far... 100 years is remarkable, and dang few. The West does not have much for history.
Well, Dillon... Which is being kept up, buildings re-chinked, etc., a bit at a time. Over here, we Have Ft. Union, Ft. Buford fairly close by, but what survives here is pretty well spread out otherwise. Little museums in most every county, but the best is in the Capital (Bismarck), and I must confess I have never been there. If you want to see wood structures survive, you have to be where it is dry, and the west side of the mountains has some of that, just as much of the prairie does (Think Eastern Montana and Western North Dakota). Even winter snow is powder, not slush, and it blows away for the most part, so whole towns survive long past their inhabitants hang around. Some get scavenged for lumber and disappear, others gradually slump and fade from sight, but the wood eating bugs of more temperate and moist climates just don't do well here, so the wood does, sandblasted into high grain relief over time by the same winds that keep the wood dry enough to survive.
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Well, Dillon... Which is being kept up, buildings re-chinked, etc., a bit at a time. Over here, we Have Ft. Union, Ft. Buford fairly close by, but what survives here is pretty well spread out otherwise. Little museums in most every county, but the best is in the Capital (Bismarck), and I must confess I have never been there. If you want to see wood structures survive, you have to be where it is dry, and the west side of the mountains has some of that, just as much of the prairie does (Think Eastern Montana and Western North Dakota). Even winter snow is powder, not slush, and it blows away for the most part, so whole towns survive long past their inhabitants hang around. Some get scavenged for lumber and disappear, others gradually slump and fade from sight, but the wood eating bugs of more temperate and moist climates just don't do well here, so the wood does, sandblasted into high grain relief over time by the same winds that keep the wood dry enough to survive.

That's right, more or less - But here folks tend to build by the water (to make it easy to tote, no doubt) And that's generally in the mouth of a holler. Even in the wide valleys, the river that carved em meanders back and forth just like the creek does in that holler. What ain't left to the vagaries of the rivers and creeks is up in the woods and there ain't hardly any of the woods that ain't touched by fire every 50-100 years.

Whatever is left might make it a while, till the roof caves in, and not much longer. Moss takes the shingles and the snow and ice does the rest. 4-5 ft of snow on an unmaintained roof will do a number on it... Not much is left.  :shrug:
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What is the problem with state issued enhanced driver's licenses?

State issued because the fed levered em into it. And in fact, the constitution says you don't need identification as an American citizen. It's a Constitutional issue. ANYONE asking me for ID is damnwell wrong... Unless it is a criminal matter I am to be left alone in my papers and my travels.

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What is the problem with state issued enhanced driver's licenses?

Wouldn't have been necessary had it not been for liberals giving out ID's to illegals like candy.
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Wouldn't have been necessary had it not been for liberals giving out ID's to illegals like candy.

Agree ... And state issued enhanced IDs (including driver's licenses) should be the only accepted voter ID.

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Exactly...my renewed drivers has the "circled star"

Mine, too.

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"Real" ID became necessary when states started handing out driver's licenses to illegals making them little use in actually identifying people...

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State-issued drivers' licenses should are not trustworthy security identification documents since many states issue them to illegal immigrants.

The state-issued driverss' license of someone in the US on visa, should expire the same day as that person's visa expires.
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RIIIIIIGHT. All Y'all are far too ready to give up liberty for security...
Because that is exactly what's happening.

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RIIIIIIGHT. All Y'all are far too ready to give up liberty for security...
Because that is exactly what's happening.

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What's your plan .... eliminate all IDs??

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What's your plan .... eliminate all IDs??

Sure. The Constitution says exactly that - Secure in my papers and secure in my travels - That means EXACTLY that I shouldn't have to provide ID, or even carry ID.

The ONLY time that ID should be required is in a criminal proceeding. The rest of the time I should neither be required or bothered. If I am law abiding I should be left alone to go on my own way.

One of the most indicative symptoms of the Nazi regime's authoritarian control was 'Papers Please'... Almost every portrayal includes that symptom because it is so self-evident.

Y'all bow to it - Desire it. Quick to join the club and get that emblem. And just as quick to provide it on request.

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Back when that was written people were generally good for their word which is not the case any more.
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Back when that was written people were generally good for their word which is not the case any more.

Sure. But this is how to make it worse, not better.

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Sure. But this is how to make it worse, not better.

I get the "mission creep" danger but y'all threw it out the door when y'all elected GWB.
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I get the "mission creep" danger but y'all threw it out the door when y'all elected GWB.

YEP. Twice. The second time, barely, and only for the troops. Definitely the most regrettable vote I ever made, and the one that caused me to vow: Never again.

That ended 'mission creep'. That is correction.

And that is why I refuse to get on the band wagon today.

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Sure. The Constitution says exactly that - Secure in my papers and secure in my travels - That means EXACTLY that I shouldn't have to provide ID, or even carry ID.

The ONLY time that ID should be required is in a criminal proceeding. The rest of the time I should neither be required or bothered. If I am law abiding I should be left alone to go on my own way.

One of the most indicative symptoms of the Nazi regime's authoritarian control was 'Papers Please'... Almost every portrayal includes that symptom because it is so self-evident.

Y'all bow to it - Desire it. Quick to join the club and get that emblem. And just as quick to provide it on request.

LOL! 

IOW, you're a huge fan of 'SEAN"...the YouTuber who takes videos of public government buildings and of law enforcement in the midst of conducting investigations or of traffic stops. 
All in the hopes of getting them to approach him and demand that he answer questions and provide his ID, etc..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmeaUR1d0zg
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LOL! 

IOW, you're a huge fan of 'SEAN"...the YouTuber

I have no idea what you're getting on about.

What I am a fan of is that with the exception of crossing the border, or buying titled land, I didn't require any form of ID. My drivers license was lapsed by EIGHT YEARS due to lack of use. That's how present it was in my daily life. For thirty years I conducted business on my face - I didn't supply ID at the bank, or at any storefront. It wasn't necessary. Hell, even at the DMV, where I did a whole lot of business in cars, I don't recall having to provide ID - I told em who I was and that was it.

What changed? And how is this requirement for ID in all your ways any different than the reason why we don't want the government keeping records of gun purchases? Don't you see the far more egregious extension?
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I have no idea what you're getting on about.

What I am a fan of is that with the exception of crossing the border, or buying titled land, I didn't require any form of ID. My drivers license was lapsed by EIGHT YEARS due to lack of use. That's how present it was in my daily life. For thirty years I conducted business on my face - I didn't supply ID at the bank, or at any storefront. It wasn't necessary. Hell, even at the DMV, where I did a whole lot of business in cars, I don't recall having to provide ID - I told em who I was and that was it.

What changed? And how is this requirement for ID in all your ways any different than the reason why we don't want the government keeping records of gun purchases? Don't you see the far more egregious extension?

The Peace Bridge into Ontario is 15 minutes from my boyhood home in Western NY.

We could drive into Canada without any ID...just verbally respond to the booth attendant who asked "Where were you born"?

Now, you're required to show a passport.

September 11, 2001 changed everything.
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September 11, 2001 changed everything.

No it did not.

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I was hoping never to need to fly anywhere again, but Mr. M wants to take a trip next year for our anniversary. It probably wouldn't be good form for him to go by himself ...  :pondering:
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LOL! 

IOW, you're a huge fan of 'SEAN"...the YouTuber who takes videos of public government buildings and of law enforcement in the midst of conducting investigations or of traffic stops. 
All in the hopes of getting them to approach him and demand that he answer questions and provide his ID, etc..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmeaUR1d0zg

Video recording in public is a First Amendment protected activity regardless who doesn't like it. It is therefore not 'probable cause' for a retard with a badge to demand ID from anyone acting within established law.
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I was hoping never to need to fly anywhere again, but Mr. M wants to take a trip next year for our anniversary. It probably wouldn't be good form for him to go by himself ...  :pondering:

Real ID will prevent your airplane from falling out of the sky. You will be fine.
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When my state started issuing "Real ID" as an option when renewing one's driver license, I took the extra steps to get it. Since it was probably going to become mandatory at some later point.

I couldn't care less about flying.
The last time I was on a commercial jet was 1984.
41 years ago.
Don't expect to be getting on one again.

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When my state started issuing "Real ID" as an option when renewing one's driver license, I took the extra steps to get it. Since it was probably going to become mandatory at some later point.

I couldn't care less about flying.
The last time I was on a commercial jet was 1984.
41 years ago.
Don't expect to be getting on one again.
I only got a real ID to be able to exercise my second amendment rights in California and opened a whole can of worms when I got my birth certificate, all that was needed before was my DL, turned into a mess as the surname on my BC was not the same as I used for all my life.

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LOL! 

IOW, you're a huge fan of 'SEAN"...the YouTuber who takes videos of public government buildings and of law enforcement in the midst of conducting investigations or of traffic stops. 
All in the hopes of getting them to approach him and demand that he answer questions and provide his ID, etc..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmeaUR1d0zg

The free speech auditors are idiots.

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The free speech auditors are idiots.

LOL!  Agreed!  But they DO entertain me!

Confess I wouldn't have the cajones to not cooperate with police if stopped.
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The idea that somebody looked at a purple onion and called it a red onion really bothers me.   

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