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DHS Chief Kristi Noem Announces All Adult U.S. Citizens Must Have REAL ID to Fly Starting May — Here Are Other Forms of Identification You Can Use
by Jim Hᴏft Apr. 12, 2025 4:40 pm

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem has announced that effective May 7, 2025, all adult U.S. citizens must present a REAL ID-compliant form of identification or a valid passport to board domestic flights and access federal facilities.

This enforcement marks the culmination of the REAL ID Act, originally passed in 2005 following the 9/11 Commission’s recommendations to enhance the integrity and security of state-issued identification documents. ​

On December 17, 2018, President Trump signed the REAL ID Act Modification for Freely Associated States Act, Public Law 115-323.

“If you plan on traveling, we need your help to prevent delays and to prove your identity. Get a REAL ID. Starting May 7th, you will need a REAL ID to travel by air or to visit federal buildings in the United States,” Noem said in a video statement.

“These IDs keep our country safe because they help prevent fraud and enhance security. Please do your part to protect our country. Go today, and don’t delay.”

There are several other forms of identification you can use to fly.

According to TSA:

        State-issued Enhanced Driver’s License
        U.S. passport
        U.S. passport card
        DHS trusted traveler cards (Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST)
        U.S. Department of Defense ID, including IDs issued to dependents
        Permanent resident card
        Border crossing card
        An acceptable photo ID issued by a federally recognized Tribal Nation/Indian Tribe, including Enhanced Tribal Cards (ETCs).
        HSPD-12 PIV card
        Foreign government-issued passport
        Canadian provincial driver’s license or Indian and Northern Affairs Canada card
        Transportation worker identification credential
        U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Employment Authorization Card (I-766)
        U.S. Merchant Mariner Credential
        Veteran Health Identification Card (VHIC)

    Children

    TSA does not require children under 18 to provide identification when traveling within the United States. Contact the airline for questions regarding specific ID requirements for travelers under 18.

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Federal law enforcement flexing under the guise of this so-called 'conservative' administration.

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State-issued Enhanced Driver’s License

Works for mandatory voter id, too.

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Federal law enforcement flexing under the guise of this so-called 'conservative' administration.
We've had "Real ID" for a while now, denoted by the gold star on your driver's license (and here I thought that meant I was a good driver). I already thought that was required to fly.

I got the TSA PreCheck KTN, too, as it saves on some of the shoe removal and all that you normally have to do when flying.

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Necessary or not, the law's been on the books for 20 years. Funny how few squawked about it until now.
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Necessary or not, the law's been on the books for 20 years. Funny how few squawked about it until now.

As I posted on another thread, It's a state problem for not jumping into this back then. Blame those mostly blue liberal states that resisted, or past state laws against the Law (Maine was a perfect example).  FL has had real ID since 2010. 
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I know we got our real ID drivers' licenses several years ago. No big deal.
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We've had "Real ID" for a while now, denoted by the gold star on your driver's license (and here I thought that meant I was a good driver). I already thought that was required to fly.


Not here. MT has dragged its feet, As have other liberty minded states.
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Necessary or not, the law's been on the books for 20 years. Funny how few squawked about it until now.

I squawked then. And I squawked in between. I am obliged to provide ID - that is bad enough. 'Papers Please' was never to be uttered in these United States.

Furthermore - it is now not enough that my state says who I am through its own legislated method - Which it DOES, even now.  NOW I must be forced to toe a federal line instead.

Another nail in the coffin.

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Not here. MT has dragged its feet, As have other liberty minded states.
I got the TSA PreCheck KTN, too, as it saves on some of the shoe removal and all that you normally have to do when flying.
Real ID has been an option in ND for a while. I think there was a short window where that would get you in and out of Canada, so I got it to go to Geological conferences in Regina, but that deal rotates locations and before Regina came up again, you needed a passport. Never have had one of those. The KTN is great until some TSA flunky herds you into the wrong line (happened at Reagan, where white guys get the short end--'nuff said). I eventually got on the plane. Had no troubles in Denver, though, so it helped. I could have had to go through the whole rigamarole at every airport, so it was well worth it. At least my 'real ID' will still get me into Montana... :laugh:
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Real ID has been an option in ND for a while. I think there was a short window where that would get you in and out of Canada, so I got it to go to Geological conferences in Regina, but that deal rotates locations and before Regina came up again, you needed a passport. Never have had one of those. The KTN is great until some TSA flunky herds you into the wrong line (happened at Reagan, where white guys get the short end--'nuff said). I eventually got on the plane. Had no troubles in Denver, though, so it helped. I could have had to go through the whole rigamarole at every airport, so it was well worth it. At least my 'real ID' will still get me into Montana... :laugh:

I will never fly again. My disabilities aside, I flat will not subject myself to that sort of treatment.  I had considered REALID (it is offered here) only for the purpose of passing into Canada somewhat like it used to be - If all I have to do is show my MT issued REALID driver's license to gain regular admittance, then that would be worth it - Or so I thought.

Now it has become an even tighter stricture - REALID AND Passport to gain admittance.

Guess I won't be going to Canada either. Too bad too. I would like to pick up where I left off wrt Calgary Stampede. And a friend in inland BC has offered to put me on a moose from a UTV...

Not gonna happen with border nazis running the show.

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Irrespective of REAL ID, I've drastically cut back on travel plans. Flying is too expensive and a pain in the neck and I don't want to visit the Caliphate of Europe anymore. Right now, I'm planning a little 4-day tour of Civil War sites within less than a 5-hour drive.
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Irrespective of REAL ID, I've drastically cut back on travel plans. Flying is too expensive and a pain in the neck and I don't want to visit the Caliphate of Europe anymore. Right now, I'm planning a little 4-day tour of Civil War sites within less than a 5-hour drive.

I am jealous of you in that. I have natural beauty and wilderness all around, but other than some far flung ghost towns, history is chewed up around here. We don't have hardwoods, so very few cabins make it very far... 100 years is remarkable, and dang few. The West does not have much for history.

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What is the problem with state issued enhanced driver's licenses?

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What is the problem with state issued enhanced driver's licenses?

Exactly...my renewed drivers has the "circled star"

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I am jealous of you in that. I have natural beauty and wilderness all around, but other than some far flung ghost towns, history is chewed up around here. We don't have hardwoods, so very few cabins make it very far... 100 years is remarkable, and dang few. The West does not have much for history.
Well, Dillon... Which is being kept up, buildings re-chinked, etc., a bit at a time. Over here, we Have Ft. Union, Ft. Buford fairly close by, but what survives here is pretty well spread out otherwise. Little museums in most every county, but the best is in the Capital (Bismarck), and I must confess I have never been there. If you want to see wood structures survive, you have to be where it is dry, and the west side of the mountains has some of that, just as much of the prairie does (Think Eastern Montana and Western North Dakota). Even winter snow is powder, not slush, and it blows away for the most part, so whole towns survive long past their inhabitants hang around. Some get scavenged for lumber and disappear, others gradually slump and fade from sight, but the wood eating bugs of more temperate and moist climates just don't do well here, so the wood does, sandblasted into high grain relief over time by the same winds that keep the wood dry enough to survive.
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Well, Dillon... Which is being kept up, buildings re-chinked, etc., a bit at a time. Over here, we Have Ft. Union, Ft. Buford fairly close by, but what survives here is pretty well spread out otherwise. Little museums in most every county, but the best is in the Capital (Bismarck), and I must confess I have never been there. If you want to see wood structures survive, you have to be where it is dry, and the west side of the mountains has some of that, just as much of the prairie does (Think Eastern Montana and Western North Dakota). Even winter snow is powder, not slush, and it blows away for the most part, so whole towns survive long past their inhabitants hang around. Some get scavenged for lumber and disappear, others gradually slump and fade from sight, but the wood eating bugs of more temperate and moist climates just don't do well here, so the wood does, sandblasted into high grain relief over time by the same winds that keep the wood dry enough to survive.

That's right, more or less - But here folks tend to build by the water (to make it easy to tote, no doubt) And that's generally in the mouth of a holler. Even in the wide valleys, the river that carved em meanders back and forth just like the creek does in that holler. What ain't left to the vagaries of the rivers and creeks is up in the woods and there ain't hardly any of the woods that ain't touched by fire every 50-100 years.

Whatever is left might make it a while, till the roof caves in, and not much longer. Moss takes the shingles and the snow and ice does the rest. 4-5 ft of snow on an unmaintained roof will do a number on it... Not much is left.  :shrug:
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What is the problem with state issued enhanced driver's licenses?

State issued because the fed levered em into it. And in fact, the constitution says you don't need identification as an American citizen. It's a Constitutional issue. ANYONE asking me for ID is damnwell wrong... Unless it is a criminal matter I am to be left alone in my papers and my travels.

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What is the problem with state issued enhanced driver's licenses?

Wouldn't have been necessary had it not been for liberals giving out ID's to illegals like candy.
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Wouldn't have been necessary had it not been for liberals giving out ID's to illegals like candy.

Agree ... And state issued enhanced IDs (including driver's licenses) should be the only accepted voter ID.

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Exactly...my renewed drivers has the "circled star"

Mine, too.

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"Real" ID became necessary when states started handing out driver's licenses to illegals making them little use in actually identifying people...

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State-issued drivers' licenses should are not trustworthy security identification documents since many states issue them to illegal immigrants.

The state-issued driverss' license of someone in the US on visa, should expire the same day as that person's visa expires.
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RIIIIIIGHT. All Y'all are far too ready to give up liberty for security...
Because that is exactly what's happening.

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RIIIIIIGHT. All Y'all are far too ready to give up liberty for security...
Because that is exactly what's happening.

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What's your plan .... eliminate all IDs??