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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2450 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 03:23 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on Sunday, Jul 20, 2025 10:54 am
Are we talking the 2014 goals, the 2022 goals, or the 2025 goals?



One of the strangest things Russia has ever said. If it weren't so serious, it would have made me laugh.

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2451 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 03:43 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 08:20 am
It was wrong when Lincoln did it.  It was wrong when Roosevelt did it.  And clearly after the last 20 years of the WoT and before that Vietnam...we don't shut down opposition political parties or media outlets.

But we did.


Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 08:20 am
They can't hold elections because their constitution says they can't be held when Martial Law has been declared.  Not just because they are at war.

OK, I stand corrected.  It's because martial law has been declared and approved by the parliament of Ukraine.  Again, refer to the Ukrainian constitution.



Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 08:20 am
Oh it's a grift all right and he and his cronies are profiting from it big time.

Evidence please.  Been asking for this for over three years now.  Still no takers.


Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 08:20 am
And of course Biden is in on it...he has been since he was VP.

No argument there.


Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 08:20 am
We're funding the budgets of entire towns in Ukraine...funding pension plans for retirees.

All because of Biden.


Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 08:20 am
They can't account for billions of dollars that he's already been given .  .  .

Uh, no.  We're the ones who can't account for billions of dollars allegedly given.  Not Ukraine.  Biden funnels $40 billion through USAID in the name of "military aid for Ukraine".  Yet USAID has no weapons.  Zelenskiy then says, 'I didn't get $40 billion in weapons'.  And he's right.  He didn't get $40 billion in weapons.  He maybe got $20 billion in cash through programs like the ones you already mentioned, while they funneled the remainder into DNC front groups.  That is 100% Made-in-the-USA corruption right there.


Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 08:20 am
.  .  while he parades himself around on the world stage demand even more billions.

You mean while he parades himself around on the world stage asking for weapons to defend Ukraine.  Weapons.  Not cash.  Weapons.  Remember how many times Biden announced aid packages.  How many times he promised tanks and APCs.  Yet those weapons shipments got delayed and delayed again while the State Department did all the heavy money laundering.


Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 08:20 am
And yes they have asked for more than weapons. 

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The U.S. government is subsidizing small businesses in Ukraine, including Tatiana Abramova's knitwear company, to keep them afloat. American officials from USAID helped Abramova find new customers overseas. In the midst of war, her company is supporting over 70 families. . . .
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/following-american-money-in-ukraine-60-minutes/

Tatiana Abramova is not the Ukrainian government.  And the reason Ukrainians were seeking money from USAID is because this is the only thing they were offered.

- Ukraine asks Biden for weapons.
- Biden funnels aid packages through the State Department and USAID which do not offer weapons.

That's not Zelenskiy's fault.  He isn't the corrupt one here.  Joe Biden is.


Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 08:20 am
It's not our job to do any of that.

I can understand the 'isolationist' argument here.  But it should stand on its own merit.  It doesn't need a bunch of lies added on to it to make it sell.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2452 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:02 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2453 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:05 pm »

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1947272790215655790


Gee, what other country borders the Caspian Sea?

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« Reply #2454 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:06 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2455 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:10 pm »
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« Reply #2456 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:16 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2457 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:20 pm »
Azerbaijan isn't happy about Putin shooting down that AzerAir civilian flight on Christmas Day, for no reason?

Looks like the "beloved Putin" isn't doing so good ...
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2458 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:22 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2459 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:23 pm »
OK, that last one was a joke.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2460 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:24 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2461 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:26 pm »
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🇬🇧The United Kingdom has allocated £700 million ($944 million) for the purchase of artillery shells, anti-aircraft and long-range missiles for Ukraine in 2025. - UK Defense Secretary John Healy during a meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group (UDCG). https://militarnyi.com/uk/news/velyka-brytaniya-vydilyla-700-mln-funtiv-na-snaryady-zenitni-ta-dalekobijni-rakety-dlya-ukrayiny/



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« Reply #2462 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:29 pm »
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« Reply #2463 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:33 pm »
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« Reply #2464 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:37 pm »
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« Reply #2465 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:39 pm »
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« Reply #2466 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:43 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2467 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:44 pm »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 09:01 am
Well, I guess you learned nothing in those three different locations...

BTW..."realist" = "appeasenik."

I learned plenty in Somalia...Iraq and Afghanistan.  What all of the NAFO wannabe's don't seem to learn is that the last person that wants war is someone who has seen it.

I've seen my share of it.

We don't need to be involved in this. We're getting slow walked into another world war.

And just like Roosevelt and the Dems of long ago...people are doing their best to "innocently" get us involved all the way up to our necks.

So yeah I'm a realist...you're not intellectually capable of seeing how that's not equal to being an "appeasenik".

You want to support this war? Go sign up for one of their brigades that is manned by foreigners.

It's really easy to be a fanboi of war when you never get your hands dirty or have any ski in the game.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2468 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:44 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2469 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:46 pm »
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OK, that brings it home for me.... :crying:
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« Reply #2470 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:47 pm »
So I'm guessing that all the NAFO nerds in this thread believing that everything that comes out of Ukraine on social media is unvarnished truth and no propaganda also take as credible everything that the "Palestinians" put it about the alleged atrocities committed by the IDF?

Anyone...anyone?


If your answer is "of course not" then please explain how you justify being skeptical of one groups propaganda while swallowing another groups propaganda whole without question.
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« Reply #2471 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:49 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2472 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:50 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:47 pm
So I'm guessing that all the NAFO nerds in this thread believing that everything that comes out of Ukraine on social media is unvarnished truth and no propaganda also take as credible everything that the "Palestinians" put it about the alleged atrocities committed by the IDF?

Anyone...anyone?


If your answer is "of course not" then please explain how you justify being skeptical of one groups propaganda while swallowing another groups propaganda whole without question.

I don't believe any of them Sarge.   :shrug:
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2473 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:52 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:47 pm
So I'm guessing that all the NAFO nerds in this thread believing that everything that comes out of Ukraine on social media is unvarnished truth

Can you show that it isn't?  Seriously, if there is something I posted here that is not truthful, then call it out, provide evidence, make your case, and I will retract it.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2474 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:55 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:44 pm
I learned plenty in Somalia...Iraq and Afghanistan.  What all of the NAFO wannabe's don't seem to learn is that the last person that wants war is someone who has seen it.

I've seen my share of it.

We don't need to be involved in this. We're getting slow walked into another world war.

And just like Roosevelt and the Dems of long ago...people are doing their best to "innocently" get us involved all the way up to our necks.

So yeah I'm a realist...you're not intellectually capable of seeing how that's not equal to being an "appeasenik".

You want to support this war? Go sign up for one of their brigades that is manned by foreigners.

It's really easy to be a fanboi of war when you never get your hands dirty or have any ski in the game.

MOS?
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2475 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:56 pm »
Also...how do you NAFO nerds feel knowing you're on the same side as a stolen valor fraud like Malcolm Nance and a turncoat like Adam Kinzinger along with every RINO like Lindsay Graham?

The hypocrisy on this stinks to high heaven.


Can't wait for the typical reply to that to start rolling in.
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« Reply #2476 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:57 pm »
SBU: Russian “mole” in Ukraine’s Anti-Corruption Bureau spied for FSB under former President Yanukovych’s security chief

The investigation errupts in NABU’s most secretive unit as Ukraine’s Security Service exposes a spy working for Russia’s security service.

Olena Mukhina  |  21/07/2025

The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) and the Office of the Prosecutor General have uncovered a Russian mole in the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU). He worked in the elite, classified D-2 unit and was spying for the Russian intelligence service.

The Second Main Special Unit of Detectives, also known as D-2, holds a special status within NABU and reports directly to the bureau’s head. It investigates corruption-related crimes committed by high-ranking officials.

The investigation has established that the agent’s subversive activities were coordinated by traitor Dmytro Ivantsov, the former deputy head of security for ousted ex-president Viktor Yanukovych. In February 2014, Ivantsov helped Yanukovych flee to Russia after EuroMaidan protests, where over 100 activists were killed by pro-government snipers. He stayed in Crimea, where he was recruited by the FSB.

The SBU documented at least 60 instances of the suspect transmitting classified information  .  .  .

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« Reply #2477 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:58 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:55 pm
MOS?

46Z40.  23+ years in the Army and Army National Guard. Retired with the rank of Sergeant First Class.

What else would you like to know?
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2478 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:59 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:52 pm
Can you show that it isn't?  Seriously, if there is something I posted here that is not truthful, then call it out, provide evidence, make your case, and I will retract it.

I posted where Ukraine is engaged in propaganda about 10am this morning.
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« Reply #2479 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:00 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:50 pm
I don't believe any of them Sarge.   :shrug:

Good.  That's how it should be.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2480 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:01 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:56 pm
Also...how do you NAFO nerds feel knowing you're on the same side as a stolen valor fraud like Malcolm Nance and a turncoat like Adam Kinzinger along with every RINO like Lindsay Graham?

Personally, I don't give a shit what Nance, Kinzinger, or Graham think.  And I certainly am not going to shape my opinions on what they think, either.  Suggesting that someone be against something just because Graham is for it sure gives Lindsay a lot of power.  Sorry, not happening.
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« Reply #2481 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:01 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2482 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:02 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:01 pm
Personally, I don't give a shit what Nance, Kinzinger, or Graham think.  And I certainly am not going to shape my opinions on what they think, either.  Suggesting that someone be against something just because Graham is for it sure gives Lindsay a lot of power.  Sorry, not happening.

And yet you have because you're all supporting the same thing.  All advocating for involvement in a conflict we don't need to be in.

Y'all are just two sides of the same coin.  None of you want to admit it.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2483 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:04 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:58 pm
46Z40.  23+ years in the Army and Army National Guard. Retired with the rank of Sergeant First Class.

What else would you like to know?

Public affairs? So was that what you did or was that just the cover on your jacket?

Mr. Megan passed away October 2023 and was active USMC from 1982 to 2007.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2484 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:04 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:46 pm
OK, that brings it home for me.... :crying:

The Ukrainians do seem to have quite the love for cats.  I've been a dog lover most of my life, but my wife is wearing me down.  We have a cat that lets me pet him on the belly, so that's as close at it gets for me.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2485 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:08 pm »
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Public affairs? So was that what you did or was that just the cover on your jacket?

Yup. Been a lot of rotten places and did things not PAO related.  If you're trying to pigeon hole me by saying my MOS doesn't give me the qualifications to speak on this topic or talk about combat...you're setting yourself up for failure.

I'd suggest a different tack.

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Semper Fi!  And I'm sorry for your loss.  He definitely lived through some interesting times in his life in the Corps that's for sure.  Bet he had some interesting stories.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2486 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:10 pm »
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What was yours?

I was an MRS to a light bird.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2487 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:12 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:02 pm
And yet you have because you're all supporting the same thing.  All advocating for involvement in a conflict we don't need to be in.

Uh, no.  Graham and I are definitely not supporting the same thing.  He was all gung-ho with Ukraine cash when Biden was in office, while I was steadfastly against it.  He supports US troops in Ukraine.  I strongly oppose it.  He pushes outright war with Russia.  I do not.  So no, your claim is incorrect.  As I said already, I don't give a shit about what Lindsay supports.

For the umpteenth time, this war will end only when Russia's cost of waging it surpasses any benefit it can derive.  Drop the price of oil down to $35/bbl, work with Ukraine in developing anti-drone interceptor technology, and support their ability to wipe out the entire Russian army parked within or used to attack within their borders (yes, that includes Crimea), and Russia will quit.  And again for the umpteenth time, this is Trump's war to win.  It was never Biden's to win because Biden had no intention of winning it, ever.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2488 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:14 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:08 pm
Yup. Been a lot of rotten places and did things not PAO related.  If you're trying to pigeon hole me by saying my MOS doesn't give me the qualifications to speak on this topic or talk about combat...you're setting yourself up for failure.

I'd suggest a different tack.

Semper Fi!  And I'm sorry for your loss.  He definitely lived through some interesting times in his life in the Corps that's for sure.  Bet he had some interesting stories.

Not trying to pigeon hole you. Not at all. One of my husband's friends was an 'optician' which was a joke since he used optics for work. I know enough that the more pathetic the MOS the more genuine the man.  tipping hat!!
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« Reply #2489 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:15 pm »
@txradioguy  @MeganC

Thank you both for your commitment and support to our US armed forces.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2490 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:22 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:59 pm
I posted where Ukraine is engaged in propaganda about 10am this morning.

Well then stop posting Ukrainian propaganda on this board.  It's tough enough policing my own posts.  Do I have to police yours, too?

Again, I try to keep these Ukraine threads propaganda-free.  Let's focus on what you read here, okay?  Yes, there is propaganda out there from both sides.  (e.g.  Russians are Ukraine's "liberators and protectors").  But please don't go out there searching for propaganda, and then posting it here just so you can complain about there being propaganda on this board.  Thanks.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2491 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:25 pm »
All thanks to Joe Biden:

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2492 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:27 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:44 pm
I learned plenty in Somalia...Iraq and Afghanistan.

None of which are Ukraine.

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I've seen my share of it.

Not like in Ukraine.

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And just like Roosevelt and the Dems of long ago...people are doing their best to "innocently" get us involved all the way up to our necks.

Last time I checked my history it was Imperial Japan that attacked the U.S. without warning, and then Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy declared war a few days later.

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So yeah I'm a realist...

No, you're a surrender monkey...if we give big bad Putin what he wants maybe he will go away and leave us alone!

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you're not intellectually capable of seeing how that's not equal to being an "appeasenik".

All of us on this thread have been following it since February 2022, and before, going all the way back to February 2014.  So yeah, we know more about it than you do.

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It's really easy to be a fanboi of war when you never get your hands dirty or have any ski in the game.

So if the ChiComs invaded the West Coast, you'd be one of those collaborators who would give them everything west of the Mississippi, in the hope that they wouldn't take anything else? 

That's what you sound like...
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2493 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:29 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:56 pm
Also...how do you NAFO nerds feel knowing you're on the same side as a stolen valor fraud like Malcolm Nance and a turncoat like Adam Kinzinger along with every RINO like Lindsay Graham?

What the hell are you talking about?
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2494 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:30 pm »
You taught me something today, @txradioguy .  I now know what NAFO is.  Thank you.

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2495 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:31 pm »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:29 pm
What the hell are you talking about?

He's saying we should question our support of Trump because Lindsay supports Trump.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2496 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:32 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 04:58 pm
46Z40.  23+ years in the Army and Army National Guard. Retired with the rank of Sergeant First Class.

Public Affairs, eh? So you were a POG.  It figures.
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« Reply #2497 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:37 pm »
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« Reply #2498 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:40 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2499 on: Monday, Jul 21, 2025 06:19 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on Monday, Jul 21, 2025 05:15 pm
@txradioguy  @MeganC

Thank you both for your commitment and support to our US armed forces.

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