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The Istanbul negotiation format with Russia has exhausted itself, says Ukraine’s First Deputy Foreign Minister Serhiy Kyslytsia. According to him, there were no real talks—Russia came with an ultimatum, not a mandate to listen. They flatly rejected any unconditional ceasefire before a leaders’ summit and demanded Ukraine first accept their terms—essentially capitulation.



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Norway joins the Tallinn Mechanism to support Ukraine’s cyber resilience, pledging over €2.15 million through 2025. The funding will strengthen the protection of civilian and critical infrastructure in what officials call the world’s first cyber war.



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"Liberators and protectors"

100% of these Russian drones are aimed at civilian targets.



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Ukraine Says Blasts Cripple Two Russian Gas Pipelines Supplying Military

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Ukraine’s military intelligence agency said it carried out two sabotage operations in Russia that damaged separate gas pipelines supplying the country’s armed forces and defence-industrial base, marking some of Kyiv’s deepest strikes on Russian energy infrastructure since the full-scale invasion began.

The first blast occurred on 5 July on the “Vladivostok” trunk line near Lazurnaya Bay on Russia’s Pacific coast. The pipeline feeds several facilities of the Pacific Fleet’s 155th Naval Infantry Brigade. Ukrainian intelligence sources, cited by multiple Ukrainian media outlets, said the explosion triggered a large fire and forced local authorities to cut mobile-internet services. Russian officials have not publicly confirmed the incident or reported casualties.

A second explosion hit the evening of 10 July near the city of Langepas in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, some 3,000 kilometres from Ukraine. According to a source in Ukraine’s Defence Intelligence quoted by Bloomberg and other outlets, the damaged line has an annual capacity of 2.6 billion cubic metres and supplies defence plants in the Chelyabinsk, Orenburg and Sverdlovsk regions.  .  .  .

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BREAKING: RUSSIA IS MOBILIZING TO ATTACK AZERBAIJAN

Azerbaijan has sided with Ukraine after Russia shot down an Azerbaijani airliner. Azerbaijan sent demining equipment to Ukraine and as of now Russia is posturing to attack Azerbaijan.

Russian forces are moving to enter Armenia to use it as a base to attack Azerbaijan from the west.

Iran may side with Azerbaijan. Maybe.

That's all.
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BREAKING: RUSSIA IS MOBILIZING TO ATTACK AZERBAIJAN

Azerbaijan has sided with Ukraine after Russia shot down an Azerbaijani airliner. Azerbaijan sent demining equipment to Ukraine and as of now Russia is posturing to attack Azerbaijan.

Russian forces are moving to enter Armenia to use it as a base to attack Azerbaijan from the west.

Iran may side with Azerbaijan. Maybe.

That's all.

Russia needs the territory.

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« Reply #2110 on: Today at 02:28:26 am »

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🇺🇦 Drone-free night in Ukraine

For the first time in weeks, there were no reports of drone attacks on Ukrainian territory.

The last time this happened was during the night of May 8.

📌 Reminder: On Monday, President Trump promised a major announcement on Ukraine, while just a day earlier, a large group of European leaders gathered in Rome to express full support for Kyiv — and delivered sharp, direct criticism of Putin’s regime.



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Sixty-five consecutive days of Russian drones and missiles targeting Ukrainian civilians.
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🫡🇺🇦 Ukrainian soldiers took revenge on Russian barbarians who killed a one-year-old child in the Kherson region, - General Staff

The location where the crew of Russian war criminals was located was established: a five-story non-residential building in Hola Prystan.

Operators of strike UAVs directed five FPV drones in four steps. In the future, no launches of enemy drones were observed from the established building.

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Background of the War
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Andrei Illarionov: Putin was preparing war for 11 years, it will be long - November 21, 2014


The Kremlin expects the war with Ukraine to become a part of the “fourth world war”.

Andrei Illarionov, a former advisor to the Russian president and now a senior fellow at the Cato Institute's Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity (Washington), said it at a conference in Brussels, UNIAN reports.

The expert is confident that the events in Ukraine cannot be called “the crisis in Ukraine or the Ukrainian crisis”. “This is not a crisis. This is a war. The war in the simplest meaning of the word,” he said.

“This is a Russian-Ukrainian war. To be more precise, this is Putin's war against Ukraine. Most Russians do not support the war. Putin's war against Ukraine is already a long-term one,” the expert is confident.

Speaking about the duration of the war, Illarionov said he was sure that the preparation took at least 11 years. “Since 2003. I can say that certain questions relating to the future war with Ukraine were discussed in my presence. I didn't think the talks would really lead to a real war,” he said.

The expert recalled the year 2004, when preparations for the future occupation and annexation of Crimea were checked during the Orange Revolution. In 2008, Russian JOurnal published the leaked plan of the military command, “in which you will see a detailed draft project of a war against Ukraine”. Information about actions to support separatists in Ukraine began to appear in 2009.

“So, they were preparing the war for a long time. The other matter is that it is a long war that has been continuing for more than 16 months. It was officially launched on July 27, 2013, by Putin's speech in Kyiv on the occasion of the anniversary of the baptism of Kyivan Rus. You can find here clear remarks about the start of the hybrid campaign, an intervention, but not a war,” he thinks.

“Unfortunately, the war won't end in the nearest time,” Illarionov thinks. “We see what Putin says and what he does. We have faced a long-term war. But this is not only Putin's war against Ukraine,” the expert is confident.

He recalled problems with Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Transnistria and Kazakhstan. “Putin said Kazakhstan didn't have historical statehood. It means that the state without historical statehood can lose it when Nazarbayev is not here,” the expert said, pointing at the events in Latgale, a region in eastern Latvia with Russian-speaking population, in the past few weeks.

“He [Putin] has the same intention he had in Crimea and eastern Ukraine. He uses the same approach. This is not a challenge only to post-Soviet countries. This is a challenge for the entire EU and NATO. And there's no answer to the challenge,” Illarionov said.

The expert says these actions are aimed at “breaking Europe's order of the last few decades”.

Illarionov also turned attention to Putin's latest speeches in Valdai and Sochi “that are important for any European policy”. He compared the speeches to Adolf Hitler's letters to UK prime minister Chamberlain on 23 and 25 August 1939, in which Hitler offered to change the world order.

The expert says the letters and Putin's speeches have 25 common points. “Almost the same words, sentences and ideas. We spoke some months ago about Putin's idea to restore the so called “Russian world”. The idea is out-of-date now. Ambitions are more far-reaching. They include the proposals to change the world order, the international system existing since World War II. We now see not just regional problems, such as Putin's war against Ukraine or a war against neighbors in the post-Soviet area, but a war against the EU and NATO. It is an intention to change the entire world order,” Illarionov said.

According to him, Putin and “his propaganda machinery said clearly that it is the fourth world war”. “It is obviously for you if you listen to them. They regard the cold war as the third world war and say the fourth world war must change the game rules,” the expert thinks.

Illarionov mentioned two aspects of the confrontation. “This is an information war, or to be more precise, a disinformation war in all languages that creates a new vision of the world order. Unfortunately, we have to admit that they have achieved certain success both in Russia and other countries,” he said.

Another aspect is what the former president's advisor calls “nuclear blackmail”. “This is the most dangerous thing. Any responsible politician in Europe or America will do his best to prevent a nuclear war. The message of the Valdai-Sochi speeches is very clear: you must accept the new world order, otherwise I will threaten you with nuclear weapons. This is the challenge that the world cannot respond to yet,” the experts said about Putin's speeches.

Illarionov is confident the war can end “only when Russia becomes a free democratic state”. “Risks and threats will exist for as long as Russia remains dictatorial,” Illarionov thinks.

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Reports from Russia today say that Russia started the day in "blackout mode".

Airline flights in central Russia are grounded, mobile communications are shut down, Russian GPS is shut down, and checkpoints are showing up on main roads.

Russian trolls on TOS have amped up their usual venom but notably many of the familiar troll names are MIA. Perhaps impacted by the regional internet shut downs.

Euronews had an article saying that Putin may have survived an attempted coup sometime in the past ten days. Approximately forty business, political, and military leaders died from various causes and the deaths appear to have commonalities such as suicide and window cancer.

Drone attacks were reported in Kazan.

No Russian drones attacked Ukraine last night.

A Russian 'Grisha' warship has gone missing somewhere east of Kamchatka and Japan has offered to assist in search and rescue operations with no response from Russia. The ship is assumed lost.

Multiple channels on YouTube are reporting that the Russian aircraft carrier Kuznetzov will not be returning to service. The ship has been in overhaul status since 2017 with little to no progress reported, observed, or even claimed. The consensus is that the ship will be abandoned and perhaps even scrapped.

Russia no longer has an aircraft carrier. Not even a joke of an aircraft carrier.
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« Reply #2124 on: Today at 11:55:16 am »

Russian trolls on TOS have amped up their usual venom but notably many of the familiar troll names are MIA. Perhaps impacted by the regional internet shut downs.

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A Russian 'Grisha' warship has gone missing somewhere east of Kamchatka and Japan has offered to assist in search and rescue operations with no response from Russia. The ship is assumed lost.

Multiple channels on YouTube are reporting that the Russian aircraft carrier Kuznetzov will not be returning to service. The ship has been in overhaul status since 2017 with little to no progress reported, observed, or even claimed. The consensus is that the ship will be abandoned and perhaps even scrapped.

Russia no longer has an aircraft carrier. Not even a joke of an aircraft carrier.

Maybe the missing trolls have been called up to the front. We can hope;

Kuznetzov has been officially scraped;

Grisha is a class of anti-submarine corvette. No articles on such a ship sinking found.
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« Reply #2125 on: Today at 12:03:00 pm »
Maybe the missing trolls have been called up to the front. We can hope;

Kuznetzov has been officially scraped;

Grisha is a class of anti-submarine corvette. No articles on such a ship sinking found.

Just passing along what's being said. I'm honestly not 100% certain of what's happening with Kuznetzov. As nice as the news is it could still be some weird misdirection. I would not put it past the Russians to do some oddball act of desperation with it.
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« Reply #2126 on: Today at 12:29:18 pm »
Just passing along what's being said. I'm honestly not 100% certain of what's happening with Kuznetzov. As nice as the news is it could still be some weird misdirection. I would not put it past the Russians to do some oddball act of desperation with it.

Well, Kuznetzov has never worked right and has been an embarrassment ever since the day it was commissioned into service.  So no surprise there.  I just surprised that putin isn't selling it to the ChiComs like he did with Varyag, which was supposedly going to be a floating casino.

As for the TOS Russian military trolls, the most notorious there, NV and d7, were posting yesterday, so they're still on duty.
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« Reply #2127 on: Today at 01:37:58 pm »
Russian trolls on TOS have amped up their usual venom but notably many of the familiar troll names are MIA. Perhaps impacted by the regional internet shut downs.

Anything that disagrees with the Ukraine fan crowd is of course the work of Russian trolls. Might as well stick your fingers in your ears and go 'LALALALALALA I can't year you!!!' It's a web of nebulous forces out to get us! Don't look behind the green curtain!!

I don't believe anything from either side. It's just a constant tsunami of deception and propaganda.
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« Reply #2128 on: Today at 03:08:26 pm »
Anything that disagrees with the Ukraine fan crowd is of course the work of Russian trolls. Might as well stick your fingers in your ears and go 'LALALALALALA I can't year you!!!' It's a web of nebulous forces out to get us! Don't look behind the green curtain!!

I don't believe anything from either side. It's just a constant tsunami of deception and propaganda.

Such is the normal during a war....
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« Reply #2129 on: Today at 03:13:24 pm »
Anything that disagrees with the Ukraine fan crowd is of course the work of Russian trolls. Might as well stick your fingers in your ears and go 'LALALALALALA I can't year you!!!' It's a web of nebulous forces out to get us! Don't look behind the green curtain!!

I don't believe anything from either side. It's just a constant tsunami of deception and propaganda.

A group of us were gathered waiting for the doors to open to the local Hallmark store for their Ornament Premiere and we were talking about local and world events in general.  The sentiment was 'what can we believe anymore'?  Not many trust the MSM.

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« Reply #2130 on: Today at 03:38:50 pm »
I don't believe anything from either side. It's just a constant tsunami of deception and propaganda.

Your previous posts betray a stated pro-Russian bias so your convenient and sudden claim of unbiased innocence rings hollow.

You not only believe Russian propaganda you amplify it and repeat it endlessly.

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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2131 on: Today at 04:22:31 pm »
Anything that disagrees with the Ukraine fan crowd is of course the work of Russian trolls. Might as well stick your fingers in your ears and go 'LALALALALALA I can't year you!!!' It's a web of nebulous forces out to get us! Don't look behind the green curtain!!

Not everything comes from Russian trolls.  The vast majority of false propaganda comes from people posting out of ignorance and who are unwilling to engage in having an honest discussion of facts.  You know the type - the ones who ignore dozens upon dozens of posts detailing European support for Ukraine.  Or the ones making claims about how the US/NATO could have prevented the war.

Any time you wish to have an honest discussion, let me know.  But all I see is someone with their fingers stuck in their ears offering bogus claims about the US and NATO and the lack of European support.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2132 on: Today at 04:24:22 pm »
A group of us were gathered waiting for the doors to open to the local Hallmark store for their Ornament Premiere and we were talking about local and world events in general.  The sentiment was 'what can we believe anymore'?  Not many trust the MSM.

Why, what's the MSM saying?  I haven't kept up.  There's very little MSM reporting on this thread.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2133 on: Today at 04:33:44 pm »
Case in point, here is video of a cluster munition hitting a civilian area in Chervivsti.  Video evidence of an identifiable city skyline showing cluster bombs going off.  This isn't an MSM report.  This is what is happening in Ukraine.  You can pretend it isn't happening.  But don't blame your own intentional vacillation on distrust of the MSM.  You have the ability to examine the evidence and draw a rational conclusion.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=556204.msg3194883#msg3194883


I make it a personal point to engage in rational discussions.  I'm not some one-way propaganda outlet.  So if you take issue with anything I have posted, then let's discuss.  Maybe I got bad info, or there is something false about my story.  But at least extend the courtesy of doing so.  Don't be one of those who repeatedly characterizes the Russians as "liberators and protectors" even after being bombarded with mountains of evidence to the contrary.  Thanks.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2134 on: Today at 04:36:28 pm »
You want to hear propaganda?  Bon appetit.



https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1944416803016602085
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2135 on: Today at 04:40:10 pm »
Your previous posts betray a stated pro-Russian bias so your convenient and sudden claim of unbiased innocence rings hollow.

You not only believe Russian propaganda you amplify it and repeat it endlessly.

This is why I don't post much on this thread.  It also explains why this is the sixth thread.....
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2136 on: Today at 04:55:44 pm »
Reports from Russia today say that Russia started the day in "blackout mode".

Airline flights in central Russia are grounded, mobile communications are shut down, Russian GPS is shut down, and checkpoints are showing up on main roads.

Euronews had an article saying that Putin may have survived an attempted coup sometime in the past ten days. Approximately forty business, political, and military leaders died from various causes and the deaths appear to have commonalities such as suicide and window cancer.


Attempted coup? How can that be?

He was just re-elected with 90% of the vote! LOL
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #2137 on: Today at 05:00:26 pm »
This is why I don't post much on this thread.  It also explains why this is the sixth thread.....

@Cyber Liberty , it's the sixth thread because there's a lot going on, and because @mystery-ak starts a new one when the old ones get too long.  I use it exclusively as a one-stop place for Ukraine war information to keep the board organized instead of filling the World News board with a million different threads on every occurrence.  I believe that follows the TBR guidelines for efficiency and order.  I am deeply grateful that threads 1-4 were restored, and will return to those occasionally to check history.

There are several posters here who migrated to TBR primarily for how they were treated on TOS.  It is understandable why they get defensive considering the ostracization and bullying they suffered there by actual Russian trolls.  Maybe they should be a bit more gracious and take a softer approach when faced with something they perceive as propaganda that was actually posted out of ignorance - or even better, posted out of truth so that we may all learn.  'Truth' matters to me greatly.  So any time I post something that is untrue, I want to be called out on it and shown what really is true.  But that is clearly not a trait shared by all who post here.  Thanks.

 
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