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Re: Ukraine 6
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Re: Ukraine 6
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #277 on: March 31, 2025, 11:42:43 am »
LOL... You couldn't be more wrong, but nothing new about that ...

Ukraine is demonstrating that the world has changed dramatically on how battles are fought and why our military has to adapt to meet the future head on.

This ⬆️ does not justify draining our treasure, military readiness and global stature over the latest edition of an Eastern European border dispute.

China's learning the same military lessons without being thigh deep in the muck and putting their advantages at risk.  Why are we still incapable of doing the same?

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« Reply #278 on: March 31, 2025, 11:55:13 am »
This ⬆️ does not justify draining our treasure, military readiness and global stature over the latest edition of an Eastern European border dispute.

China's learning the same military lessons without being thigh deep in the muck and putting their advantages at risk.  Why are we still incapable of doing the same?

Am surprised that the other side of the world hasn't by confederation  ratified something analogous to our Monroe Doctrine.  Wouldn't blame them. 
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« Reply #279 on: March 31, 2025, 12:16:59 pm »

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1906540738994647278

Actual military aid.  Go figure.  Beats the heck out of the billions diverted to USAID, all in the name of 'Ukraine Aid'.  I suspect Ukraine has received more 'military' aid in the first three months of Trump than it did during the last nine months of Biden.
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« Reply #280 on: March 31, 2025, 12:19:01 pm »

1984 - Ronald Reagan Making a Strong Case for NATO Intervention in Ukraine - YouTube

In 1984, Ronald Reagan gave ⬆️ a predictable speech at the annual D-Day memorial gathering.

In 1984, Reagan was not facing a China globally on the move, including in our hemisphere to the North and South of our borders, amassing control of the global supply chain and over trade routes, gaining supremacy in AI and purchasing the United States one acre and one university at a time ---all preparing for victory over the US with or without direct onfrontation.

In 1984, Reagan was not facing the internal threats to the United States from years of an invasion of unvetted global hostiles. 

In 1984, Reagan was not faced with replanting our judiciary in the Constitution of the United States.

In 1984, an attempted assas@#$tion attempt was one and done.

1984.was part of a different world; so is Reagan's speech.

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« Reply #281 on: March 31, 2025, 12:45:01 pm »

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1906695956612940073

Maybe if these Russian troops hadn't been in Ukraine, they would still be alive today.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #282 on: March 31, 2025, 12:49:47 pm »
In 1984, Reagan was not facing a China globally on the move, including in our hemisphere to the North and South of our borders, amassing control of the global supply chain and over trade routes, gaining supremacy in AI and purchasing the United States one acre and one university at a time ---all preparing for victory over the US with or without direct onfrontation.

Your new strategy of shifting the focus to China over the last few days is duly noted since your "liberators and protectors" strategy clearly is not working.  However, our encounters with China have absolutely positively nothing to do with our decision to support Ukraine and our European allies in their battle against overt Russian aggression.

Bottom line, this war ends when Russia gets their army the hell out of Ukraine.  And the US should stand firm on that diplomatic point.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #283 on: March 31, 2025, 12:58:15 pm »
Am surprised that the other side of the world hasn't by confederation  ratified something analogous to our Monroe Doctrine.  Wouldn't blame them.

I think we're seeing something approaching that now.  Country after country is now ponying up equipment to help defend against overt Russian aggression.  France, the UK, Germany, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Estonia, Lithuania, Finland, Sweden, Portugal, Germany, Romania, Slovakia, etc.  All are now sending military goods to Ukraine.  They recognize the threat, even if we don't.  It's quite remarkable, really, since they do not share language or national identity.  But they are unified in one aspect - the threat of Soviet fascism.

It is a shame that the Biden regime squandered tens of billions setting up their own graft payments while Ukraine went without.  It's even a greater shame to see posters here blaming Zelenskiy for that.  If we had given Ukraine $50 billion in artillery, drones, and A10s, and removed all RoE restrictions, this war would be over.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #284 on: March 31, 2025, 01:34:27 pm »
An Assault Group Attacked Pokrovsk While Flying A Giant Russian Flag—And Got Destroyed

Artillery and drones struck all 12 attacking vehicles.

David Axe  |  Mar 30, 2025, 04:09am EDT  |  Updated Mar 30, 2025, 02:01pm EDT



A Russian assault group attacks under a large flag.
Via Officer_alex


It’s tempting fate to roll into a battle in Ukraine while flying a giant flag from your armored vehicle. But that’s exactly what a Russian regiment did on Thursday as they attacked under the white, blue and red banner of the Russian Federation.

Marshaling a dozen increasingly precious armored vehicles, the Russians attacked toward the fortress city of Pokrovsk in eastern Ukraine. The Ukrainian 35th Marine Brigade and the Birds of Magyar drone group were waiting for them with drones and artillery.

“The entire column was completely destroyed,” one Ukrainian blogger reported. The same thing happened the last time the Russians attacked under a giant flag—in that case, the blood-red flag of the defunct Soviet Union.

The wholesale destruction of the flag-waving Russian assault group came as the Kremlin is once again increasing pressure on Pokrovsk, the anchor of a chain of fortified settlements stretching toward the north.

Russian forces spent a year marching the roughly 25 miles from the ruins of Avdiivka to Pokrovsk. But the offensive ground to a halt a few miles outside of Pokrovsk as it ran into the thickest concentration of Ukrainian drones and artillery last month.

There was a weeks-long lull in assaults as Russian forces first focused on ejecting Ukrainian troops from western Russia’s Kursk Oblast, which they finally did late last month. Now “Russian forces increase the intensity of their attacks on the Pokrovsk direction and attempt to reach the same level of intensity as in January 2025,” the Ukrainian Center for Defense Strategies observed.  .  .  .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2025/03/30/an-assault-group-attacked-pokrovsk-while-flying-a-giant-russian-flag-and-got-destroyed/



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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #285 on: March 31, 2025, 01:46:44 pm »
Your new strategy of shifting the focus to China over the last few days is duly noted since your "liberators and protectors" strategy clearly is not working.  However, our encounters with China have absolutely positively nothing to do with our decision to support Ukraine and our European allies in their battle against overt Russian aggression.

I'm a little shocked that I have to remind some folks of both China's growing threat to the United States AND Europe's love of border disputes --- as long as the United States pays for them, in any way necessary.  It really is time and okay for the US to decide Europe will no longer drag us around by the short hairs.

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Bottom line, this war ends when Russia gets their army the hell out of Ukraine.  And the US should stand firm on that diplomatic point.

The US should collect its marbles, close its checkbook, wish Europe luck, and remind them to call us if they're interested in peace and fair trade. Just turn out the lights and leave a note that reads:  "Uncle Sugar Daddy has left the building."




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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #286 on: March 31, 2025, 02:20:01 pm »
I'm a little shocked that I have to remind some folks of both China's growing threat to the United States AND Europe's love of border disputes ---

Russia's invasion of Ukraine is NOT a border dispute.  But then you knew that already.  Yet here you are again pushing the same lie.  Some things never change around here.

Oh, and this is completely independent of any threat China poses.  Of course you knew that too.  But at least it's new.  What prompted you to start this new line of false argument?
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« Reply #287 on: March 31, 2025, 02:23:22 pm »
I'm a little shocked that I have to remind some folks of both China's growing threat to the United States AND Europe's love of border disputes --- as long as the United States pays for them, in any way necessary.  It really is time and okay for the US to decide Europe will no longer drag us around by the short hairs.

The US should collect its marbles, close its checkbook, wish Europe luck, and remind them to call us if they're interested in peace and fair trade. Just turn out the lights and leave a note that reads:  "Uncle Sugar Daddy has left the building."


I hope you realize that Russia and China is joined at the hip.
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« Reply #288 on: March 31, 2025, 02:38:22 pm »

I hope you realize that Russia and China is joined at the hip.

I believe she's trying to say that ceding Ukraine (and its resources) over to Russia will keep China in check and will somehow be in America's best interests.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #289 on: March 31, 2025, 03:12:57 pm »
Reporting From Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/@RFU/videos

Excerpts from the video transcript:

[ The West Strikes Back Hard to The New North Korean Military Aid! ]

Today [ Mar 31, 8 pm ], there is interesting news from the Kursk front.

North Korea took a significant step, sending thousands more soldiers to the Russian front lines as the two nations are increasing their military cooperation, exchanging valuable information and tactics with each other. This relationship provoked a direct response from the US, as it intensified cooperation with Ukraine to undermine the North Korean tactics. North Korea sent 3,000 more troops to Kursk to replenish depleted Russian and North Korean ranks. However, Ukrainian reports indicate that North Korea had already lost over 4,000 soldiers of their initial contingent of 12,000, meaning that the new reinforcements didn’t even replenish the losses they suffered.  North Korea is increasing military aid to Russia, filling gaps left by Russia’s struggling defense industry, not being able to keep up with the sustained losses. Recently, Ukrainian reconnaissance also spotted North Korean Koksan self-propelled guns in Kursk, passing its coordinates to nearby HIMARS crews, which destroyed the guns and crews with cluster munition strikes.

US military urgently partnered with the South Korean military to develop and hone military plans and tactics to counter new North Korean tactics. The U.S. and South Korea launched joint exercises focused on countering war tunnels, an extensively used North Korean tactic, which is also being modernized and used by both sides fighting in Ukraine. North Korea must seriously reassess if deepening military ties with Russia is worth the threat of increased Western efforts. NATO seeks to learn its own lessons from the war in Ukraine, to counter any future Russian and North Korean threat. This led to new initiatives, such as the Joint Analysis Training and Education Centre in Bydgoszcz in Poland, which brings together NATO and Ukrainian personnel to study up-to-date combat experiences and insights, thereby sharpening NATO’s defense planning.

... while Pyongyang’s military aid and combat deployments offer Russia some relief amidst mounting losses, this also exposes Russia’s increasing dependence on foreign support and the insufficiencies of the Russian defense industrial base, despite the already increased production. The threat of growing military ties between Russia and North Korea is also not going unanswered by the geopolitical West. Increased efforts to incorporate crucial military and combat experiences into NATO doctrine and joint exercises that specifically aim to counter Russian and North Korean tactics will greatly improve the deterrence factor of the West. Besides strengthening against a possible war with Russia, the response from the US and NATO means that North Korean leadership must decide if updating its military tactics is worth their efforts being increasingly focused on by their greatest enemies.


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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #290 on: March 31, 2025, 03:13:06 pm »
I'm a little shocked that I have to remind some folks of both China's growing threat to the United States AND Europe's love of border disputes --- as long as the United States pays for them, in any way necessary.  It really is time and okay for the US to decide Europe will no longer drag us around by the short hairs.

The US should collect its marbles, close its checkbook, wish Europe luck, and remind them to call us if they're interested in peace and fair trade. Just turn out the lights and leave a note that reads:  "Uncle Sugar Daddy has left the building."

Hear!  Hear!   :beer:
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« Reply #291 on: March 31, 2025, 03:17:04 pm »
I believe she's trying to say that ceding Ukraine (and its resources) over to Russia will keep China in check and will somehow be in America's best interests.

Nope...it's plain English.  Doesn't need interpretation.

Europe is NOT a U.S. territory.  It's time for them to protect their own continent against their sworn enemies with checks drawn on their own bank accounts.
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #292 on: March 31, 2025, 03:19:46 pm »
I believe she's trying to say that ceding Ukraine (and its resources) over to Russia will keep China in check and will somehow be in America's best interests.

Quite simply the fate of Russia is going to guide China on future aggressions. Those who want to pretend they are completely independent things are fooling themselves.

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« Reply #293 on: March 31, 2025, 03:59:43 pm »
I believe she's trying to say that ceding Ukraine (and its resources) over to Russia will keep China in check and will somehow be in America's best interests.

This ⬆️ is not at all what I'm saying.  I'm saying the world has significantly changed since 1945, not the least of it the rise of China.  We are the counterbalance to China militarily and economically and can no longer waste our treasures in ongoing European misadventures.




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« Reply #294 on: March 31, 2025, 04:02:09 pm »
Nope...it's plain English.  Doesn't need interpretation.

Europe is NOT a U.S. territory.  It's time for them to protect their own continent against their sworn enemies with checks drawn on their own bank accounts.


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« Reply #295 on: March 31, 2025, 05:04:41 pm »
I'm a little shocked that I have to remind some folks of both China's growing threat to the United States...

Maybe you could start a running topic on China and, trust me, I will happily and sincerely support you in that effort.

China deserves their own topic.

Meanwhile this topic is about Ukraine and Russia's war to conquer and subjugate Ukraine.  tipping hat!!
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Re: Ukraine 6
« Reply #296 on: March 31, 2025, 06:20:15 pm »
I'm a little shocked that I have to remind some folks of both China's growing threat to the United States AND Europe's love of border disputes --- as long as the United States pays for them, in any way necessary.  It really is time and okay for the US to decide Europe will no longer drag us around by the short hairs.

The US should collect its marbles, close its checkbook, wish Europe luck, and remind them to call us if they're interested in peace and fair trade. Just turn out the lights and leave a note that reads:  "Uncle Sugar Daddy has left the building."

The China thread is over here:
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?board=193.0
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« Reply #297 on: March 31, 2025, 07:52:57 pm »
The China thread is over here:
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?board=193.0


I know you don't like the China/Ukraine debate, it's rational and necessary.  Not everyone supports prolonging this sh!thow or even any US involvement in it.  It appears you want to silence these voices, especially since China's the one we need to be ready for and with every moment and dollar spent on Ukraine we are wasting precious time and resources.

China and Ukraine are part of the same fair and balanced discussion.  @BobfromWB

I'm a little shocked that I have to remind some folks of both China's growing threat to the United States AND Europe's love of border disputes --- as long as the United States pays for them, in any way necessary.  It really is time and okay for the US to decide Europe will no longer drag us around by the short hairs.

The US should collect its marbles, close its checkbook, wish Europe luck, and remind them to call us if they're interested in peace and fair trade. Just turn out the lights and leave a note that reads:  "Uncle Sugar Daddy has left the building."


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« Reply #298 on: March 31, 2025, 08:16:05 pm »
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But we don't stable our allies in the back. Unless you want us to be allied with Russia.
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« Reply #299 on: March 31, 2025, 08:21:44 pm »
I know you don't like the China/Ukraine debate, it's rational and necessary.  Not everyone supports prolonging this sh!thow or even any US involvement in it.  It appears you want to silence these voices, especially since China's the one we need to be ready for and with every moment and dollar spent on Ukraine we are wasting precious time and resources.

China and Ukraine are part of the same fair and balanced discussion.  @BobfromWB


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