Zelensky's five moves that set off Trump

[catfish1957]

Ukraine can build their own nukes and obviously they need them.

Anything further I say, will just sound mean...  Have a good evening.

[libertybele]

Ukraine can build their own nukes and obviously they need them.

Nah, now that the UK is supporting them, let the UK help them build nukes.   

On that thought, I wonder when NATO will accept Ukraine into the fold.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Was just messing with you.  When someone of Musk's talent, impact, and basic generous donation of his time....   I'd say he gets a pass and can wear what he damn well pleases.

Yep, American needs him worse than he needs us

[MeganC]

Anything further I say, will just sound mean...  Have a good evening.

I notice you have an inclination towards personal attacks. I appreciate your restraint with me.

Now it would be nice if you were to show the same restraint with others.

[Wingnut]

I notice you have an inclination towards personal attacks. I appreciate your restraint with me.

Now it would be nice if you were to show the same restraint with others.

Go make a samich or clean the kitchen.

[Timber Rattler]

Go make a samich or clean the kitchen.

Sexist much?   

[MeganC]

Go make a samich or clean the kitchen.

I make exceptional sandwiches on rolls that I make from my own sourdough starter. We have two kitchens and both are kept immaculately clean.

On occasion I bake bread and pastries for special events in Jackson Hole.

So while you may think your vastly uninspired putdown hurt me the fact is that I make sandwiches whose menu price typically tops $100.

It is a prideful sin yet all the same I am proud of this.

[catfish1957]

I make exceptional sandwiches on rolls that I make from my own sourdough starter. We have two kitchens and both are kept immaculately clean.

On occasion I bake bread and pastries for special events in Jackson Hole.

So while you may think your vastly uninspired putdown hurt me the fact is that I make sandwiches whose menu price typically tops $100.

It is a prideful sin yet all the same I am proud of this.

Congratulations...   But it will be a cold day in hell before  this Scottish heritage cheapskate spends that kind of money on a Sammy.

Just what kind of patron would dole out that?

[libertybele]

I make exceptional sandwiches on rolls that I make from my own sourdough starter. We have two kitchens and both are kept immaculately clean.

On occasion I bake bread and pastries for special events in Jackson Hole.

So while you may think your vastly uninspired putdown hurt me the fact is that I make sandwiches whose menu price typically tops $100.

It is a prideful sin yet all the same I am proud of this.

@MeganC   To pay $100 for just a sandwich is ridiculous unless it's rather large in size and loaded with goodness and comes with several sides and the atmosphere must match the price of course. The people in Jackson Hole must be doing very well.  So ....I'm guessing that you own a restaurant or two?

[catfish1957]

@MeganC   To pay $100 for just a sandwich is ridiculous unless it's rather large in size and loaded with goodness and comes with several sides and the atmosphere must match the price of course. The people in Jackson Hole must be doing very well.  So ....I'm guessing that you own a restaurant or two?

We went to Jackson a few years ago.  It is crazy expensive, there, but I sure didn't pay $100 for a sandwich.  I think it was something  $30-35 for a Chicken Fried Steak, which  at least where I live is damned expensive.

[240B]

SUBWAY

Italian B.M.T. (Giant Sub)
3 ft $125.00
6 ft $250.00
Italian B.M.T.™ An old-world favorite. Sliced beef salami, beef pepperoni and chicken ham and your choice of fresh vegetables and condiments served on freshly baked bread. Some say B.M.T. stands for biggest, meatiest, tastiest. We wouldn't disagree.

https://www.sub2u.com/giant-sub

[catfish1957]

SUBWAY

Italian B.M.T. (Giant Sub)
3 ft $125.00
6 ft $250.00
Italian B.M.T.™ An old-world favorite. Sliced beef salami, beef pepperoni and chicken ham and your choice of fresh vegetables and condiments served on freshly baked bread. Some say B.M.T. stands for biggest, meatiest, tastiest. We wouldn't disagree.

https://www.sub2u.com/giant-sub

????

Last week I got a coupon from Subway for 3 foot longs for $25.  Your shop there must be expensive...ouch

[MeganC]

"just a sandwich"

My signature sandwich starts with a Wagyu prime rib. It is cooked sous vide to 155F and then seared with a cooking torch. It is then deep frozen so the meat can be shaved into delicately thin slices. The resulting slices are readily warmed to 38F for serving.

The bun is a fresh ciabatta that is cooked until done, but not crusty. I was taught to make this style ciabatta from a friend of mine who baked for Clint Eastwood's Hog's Breath in Carmel.

The roll is sliced and seared in butter.

4oz of the prepared beef is placed on the roll.

This is topped with two teaspoons of my saffron aioli.

Last time I made these they were about $100 each. Probably $120 to $150 if I were to make them now.

[catfish1957]

"just a sandwich"

My signature sandwich starts with a Wagyu prime rib. It is cooked sous vide to 155F and then seared with a cooking torch. It is then deep frozen so the meat can be shaved into delicately thin slices. The resulting slices are readily warmed to 38F for serving.

The bun is a fresh ciabatta that is cooked until done, but not crusty. I was taught to make this style ciabatta from a friend of mine who baked for Clint Eastwood's Hog's Breath in Carmel.

The roll is sliced and seared in butter.

4oz of the prepared beef is placed on the roll.

This is topped with two teaspoons of my saffron aioli.

Last time I made these they were about $100 each. Probably $120 to $150 if I were to make them now.

Sounds impressive.  But your audience here , are probably  much like me, and  are meat 'n taters kind of folks.

My idea of a foodie night is getting a ribeye at my local steak house for $30, with an extra plastic cup of ranch dressing for my salad on the side.   

[DCPatriot]

"just a sandwich"

My signature sandwich starts with a Wagyu prime rib. It is cooked sous vide to 155F and then seared with a cooking torch. It is then deep frozen so the meat can be shaved into delicately thin slices. The resulting slices are readily warmed to 38F for serving.

The bun is a fresh ciabatta that is cooked until done, but not crusty. I was taught to make this style ciabatta from a friend of mine who baked for Clint Eastwood's Hog's Breath in Carmel.

The roll is sliced and seared in butter.

4oz of the prepared beef is placed on the roll.

This is topped with two teaspoons of my saffron aioli.

Last time I made these they were about $100 each. Probably $120 to $150 if I were to make them now.

Geezuz...no wonder you want Ukraine to have nukes!!  

[libertybele]

"just a sandwich"

My signature sandwich starts with a Wagyu prime rib. It is cooked sous vide to 155F and then seared with a cooking torch. It is then deep frozen so the meat can be shaved into delicately thin slices. The resulting slices are readily warmed to 38F for serving.

The bun is a fresh ciabatta that is cooked until done, but not crusty. I was taught to make this style ciabatta from a friend of mine who baked for Clint Eastwood's Hog's Breath in Carmel.

The roll is sliced and seared in butter.

4oz of the prepared beef is placed on the roll.

This is topped with two teaspoons of my saffron aioli.

Last time I made these they were about $100 each. Probably $120 to $150 if I were to make them now.

??? Sourdough ciabatta ???  You are one busy lady ... IIRC you posted you had 6 kids .... oh and the chickens. 

[Wingnut]

$100 bucks for a samich.  Better come with a Happy er Happy meal toy.

[Gefn]

"just a sandwich"

My signature sandwich starts with a Wagyu prime rib. It is cooked sous vide to 155F and then seared with a cooking torch. It is then deep frozen so the meat can be shaved into delicately thin slices. The resulting slices are readily warmed to 38F for serving.

The bun is a fresh ciabatta that is cooked until done, but not crusty. I was taught to make this style ciabatta from a friend of mine who baked for Clint Eastwood's Hog's Breath in Carmel.

The roll is sliced and seared in butter.

4oz of the prepared beef is placed on the roll.

This is topped with two teaspoons of my saffron aioli.

Last time I made these they were about $100 each. Probably $120 to $150 if I were to make them now.

This is a bucket list sandwich. I want one before I shuffle off my mortal coil @MeganC

[IsailedawayfromFR]

We went to Jackson a few years ago.  It is crazy expensive, there, but I sure didn't pay $100 for a sandwich.  I think it was something  $30-35 for a Chicken Fried Steak, which  at least where I live is damned expensive.

To charge that kind of money for a Southern dish is actually a sin.

Must have been a Northern CFS.

[catfish1957]

To charge that kind of money for a Southern dish is actually a sin.

Must have been a Northern CFS.

It was...  hardly no breading, and the "brown" gravy had the consistency of soup.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

SUBWAY

Italian B.M.T. (Giant Sub)
3 ft $125.00
6 ft $250.00
Italian B.M.T.™ An old-world favorite. Sliced beef salami, beef pepperoni and chicken ham and your choice of fresh vegetables and condiments served on freshly baked bread. Some say B.M.T. stands for biggest, meatiest, tastiest. We wouldn't disagree.

https://www.sub2u.com/giant-sub

No way I would put out that type of money at a Subway.

Now, if I was still living in my little town in New England, I might do that for a large grinder made by my favorite family Italian place I used to frequent.

Darn it, now my mouth is drooling

[roamer_1]

I make exceptional sandwiches on rolls that I make from my own sourdough starter. We have two kitchens and both are kept immaculately clean.

On occasion I bake bread and pastries for special events in Jackson Hole.

So while you may think your vastly uninspired putdown hurt me the fact is that I make sandwiches whose menu price typically tops $100.

It is a prideful sin yet all the same I am proud of this.

Them that can brag, let em! 

Wyoming? Well darlin, I knew you made sense to me... Why I could dang near throw a rock and hit Jackson Hole from here. I punched cows down that way, back in the day.

[libertybele]

$100 bucks for a samich.  Better come with a Happy er Happy meal toy.

I think @MeganC should at least offer a fancy decoder ring with the sandwich.

[libertybele]

Well, we've gone from Z's five moves to sandwiches in Jackson Hole. 

[catfish1957]

I think @MeganC should at least offer a fancy decoder ring with the sandwich.

I got to still admit I am impressed that she can sell sandwiches, and get that kind of dough.  Got to admit that the best pizza I have ever had (A big one) was Fifty Bucks.

Maybe she can post a pic.

[roamer_1]

Sounds impressive.  But your audience here , are probably  much like me, and  are meat 'n taters kind of folks.

My idea of a foodie night is getting a ribeye at my local steak house for $30, with an extra plastic cup of ranch dressing for my salad on the side.   

Must be a Southern thing to turn your nose up at such a work of art.

She had me at aoli. Home made sourdough... You don't know what you're missin till that shows up at your chair with chips and a sweet tea on race day...

But I know. What I'm missin, that is.

[libertybele]

I got to still admit I am impressed that she can sell sandwiches, and get that kind of dough.  Got to admit that the best pizza I have ever had (A big one) was Fifty Bucks.

Maybe she can post a pic.

We have a pizzeria called "Mellow Mushroom" -- their pizza's cost close to that depending on what type of pizza you get and size.  The pizza is worth it though and we splurge on it every once in awhile (we usually get more than one).

[catfish1957]

Must be a Southern thing to turn your nose up at such a work of art.

She had me at aoli. Home made sourdough... You don't know what you're missin till that shows up at your chair with chips and a sweet tea on race day...

But I know. What I'm missin, that is.

Naww...  we got food snobs down here too, who will mosey over to Houston and  make it a point to disclose how many Michelin Stars their last meal  got.  Some of those are good friends. 

I am a cheapskate.  Is there a Steak Dinner over in Houston for a $100 to die for?  I am sure there is, but I am a purveyor of the laws of diminishing returns.  Is that steak that costs $100, $70 better than what I get here locally for $30?.  No, not at least in my eyes

[bigheadfred]

I live 115 road miles from Jackson's Hole.  You have to pay me to go there.

[roamer_1]

Naww...  we got food snobs down here too, who will mosey over to Houston and  make it a point to disclose how many Michelin Stars their last meal  got.  Some of those are good friends. 

I am a cheapskate.  Is there a Steak Dinner over in Houston for a $100 to die for?  I am sure there is, but I am a purveyor of the laws of diminishing returns.  Is that steak that costs $100, $70 better than what I get here locally for $30?.  No, not at least in my eyes

To be fair, Waygu beef would likely be wasted on me. You and me would probably agree than premium meat (of any variety) comes from passin through the smoke. And being an hunter, I am well accustomed to the very best cuts of a critter - The inner backstraps are in the smoke right at camp, and never make it to the freezer, for sure...

I went with a gal for a while that was a world class baker, and certainly could be called a chef. A hilljilly, so she knew about smoke too. Her sammiches were a gift. Truly.

I doubt I have ever paid a hundred bucks for a sammich, or that I ever will.
But if Mamma's got the credz for it, then PROPS... I ain't gonna throw her out of bed for eating crackers.

[MeganC]

Well, we've gone from Z's five moves to sandwiches in Jackson Hole.

It's at least something we all like and mostly agree on! 

[MeganC]

I live 115 road miles from Jackson's Hole.  You have to pay me to go there.

Me too! It's a bunch of snobs and rich people who eat amazing food just to show off. It's also a  to get there from Cody during the summer. It can take four to five hours crossing the parks at 10-20mph.

[Wingnut]

Some people drift cars for excitement. We drift topics.

[catfish1957]

Some people drift cars for excitement. We drift topics.

Sometimes it is healthy to have a good old fashioned thread hi-jack.

[roamer_1]

Some people drift cars for excitement.

That's kinda fun, but it feels like practice.
The real thing is drifting a corner going from asphalt to gravel with a couple sheriff deputies in the rear view mirror...

Now THAT is 'drifting'   

[Wingnut]

That's kinda fun, but it feels like practice.
The real thing is drifting a corner going from asphalt to gravel with a couple sheriff deputies in the rear view mirror...

Now THAT is 'drifting'   

Bandit is that you?  What is your 10-20.  Come back

[libertybele]

Bandit is that you?  What is your 10-20.  Come back

 

[libertybele]

That's kinda fun, but it feels like practice.
The real thing is drifting a corner going from asphalt to gravel with a couple sheriff deputies in the rear view mirror...

Now THAT is 'drifting'   

OMG!!  Love hearing of your life's experiences.   

[roamer_1]

Bandit is that you?  What is your 10-20.  Come back

I did a Bandit car, back in the day... refitted with my signature 428 Interceptor and a Muncie M22 Rockcrusher mated to a drop gear overdrive.

The guy wound up hard paying, so I got a mechanic's lien... HOW I Wanted that car! I've made a few real masterpieces in my life - And that car was one of em. He wound up coming up with the scratch with two days left - Which wounded me.

As it turns out, I have only ever owned ONE Screamin Chicken in my whole life. I wrapped that one around a phone pole... But it ruined me for any other... Love my Chevelles, and I always will.
But the Firebird is the one that got away.

[Wingnut]

3 of mine back in the late 80's   I've always had one or more till I retired.  I don't miss any of them as much as my Chevelle.  My dumb ass sold that one in 1979.   

[Bigun]

3 of mine back in the late 80's   I've always had one or more till I retired.  I don't miss any of them as much as my Chevelle.  My dumb ass sold that one in 1979.

Yeah! Same with my 68 Charger.

[roamer_1]

3 of mine back in the late 80's   I've always had one or more till I retired.  I don't miss any of them as much as my Chevelle.  My dumb ass sold that one in 1979.

Mine was a 71 I think... The first year TA, but they didn't call it a TA yet... Like the GTO was actually named a Gran Turismo etc... The Trans Am had a similar weirdo name then. That's the one I wrapped around the phone pole.

My hallmark Chevelle was a '65 El Camino. That was my Whiskey Runner... The one I got in most of my trouble with. Always wanted a 65 Chevelle coupe to go with it. Never stuck. Had a couple, but they were worth too much so they went down the river.

Had a 69 Malibu and a 69 Camino... Turned a ton of em, but those were my drivers... Outside of the '65, that Chevelle blue '69 Camino was the other keeper, and I wish I could get me another someday.

But I took a hard turn into 4WD and started jacking up pickups and getting stuck in mud holes... Seemed to be a cheaper hobby at the time, rather than all the tickets and insurance woes and jail time I wound up with running around in a fast one. 

[DefiantMassRINO]

At least Z-man didn't embarrass himself by puking on Trump or Vance.

A classic from 1992 ...



George H. W. Bush puking on the Japanese Prime Minister's lap.

[MeganC]

To be fair, Waygu beef would likely be wasted on me.

The thing about Wagyu is the thinner the slice the more intense the flavor experience. It's overwhelming as a steak. Sliced transparently thin it dissolves in your mouth and this sensation of beef flavor fills your senses. Thin slices piled into a neutral flavored roll with the saffron infused aioli is very powerful. It is simple without any further embellishment like arugula or etc.

You owe it to yourself to experience it someday! 

[Wingnut]

At least Z-man didn't embarrass himself by puking on Trump or Vance.

A classic from 1992 ...



George H. W. Bush puking on the Japanese Prime Minister's lap.

I think it was a BJ.  Not a ralph.

[roamer_1]

The thing about Wagyu is the thinner the slice the more intense the flavor experience. It's overwhelming as a steak. Sliced transparently thin it dissolves in your mouth and this sensation of beef flavor fills your senses. Thin slices piled into a neutral flavored roll with the saffron infused aioli is very powerful. It is simple without any further embellishment like arugula or etc.

You owe it to yourself to experience it someday! 

I will happily give it a whirl... But not at the standard price... Some of that is just faddy nonsense. Like Gueyducks as an instance... Try buying that in the store sometime... Crazy prices that I will never do.
Now, if  y'all want to go on over to the Columbia River and dig em, I will be HAPPY to do that... What a fine time. And you will never get a better gueyduck than the one you get there.

Chaga tea is another... I see that for 90 bucks an ounce and laugh. I can get chaga by the bucket. For free.

As for Waygu, I think it is more a style of raising than it is anything particular to the breed... I can raise up and finish off an Angus about the same way to get super tender heavily marblized meat... Now, that ain't how we do - I don't want my meat pen or paddock raised. Heck, I would rather grass fed with no grain finish... That's all red with very little fat marbling. I like that taste and texture better - Relying on the smoke to make it soft.

That's why I said it would be wasted on me... My palate is made for hearty fare... There has been occasion where a woman has convinced me to go off and sample dainty fare - And that is a good thing. I had a great time most of those times, enjoying the fare and the company.

But I have and always will revert to my hillbilly roots. You can dress me up and put a fancy drink in my hand, and I will like it fine... But tomorrow night I will be stumbling in in my Carharts looking for a PBR in the fridge 

I am hopelessly and incontrovertibly redneck AF. 

[MeganC]

I am hopelessly and incontrovertibly redneck AF.

I'm born and raised Hollywood white trailer trash. I prefer a Texas bourbon but I can appreciate a Château d'Yquem Sauternes. 

[DCPatriot]

How about using the Members Lounge to discuss Wagyu and what pedigree of redneck you might be?    

[MeganC]

How about using the Members Lounge to discuss Wagyu and what pedigree of redneck you might be?    

And what pedigree of whatever are you?

[libertybele]

How about using the Members Lounge to discuss Wagyu and what pedigree of redneck you might be?    

I know back on topic: Zelensky's five moves that set off Trump 

Z has a lot of making up to do, both to the U.S. and to the Ukrainian people. Grifting and wanting more and then getting caught was rightfully frowned upon.