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Just like Neville Chamberlain washed his hands of Czechoslovakia ... somebody else's problem!

How'd that work out? ...

You realize that on a normalized basis, that Nazi Germany is at least  10-20X more powerful and dominant than present day Russia?
And in fact if this was the 1956- 1962 USSR, I'd agree with you  . Russia is a mere shell of its former self, and its economic and geo-poltical standing in the world is plummeting.

This Russian Boogey Man scare tactic has gotten stale.
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A must watch..


https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1896061071875850387

A voice of reason.  Keir Starmer will probably want him arrested for hate speech.
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You checked into the Hotel California @DB
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"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

The idea that somebody looked at a purple onion and called it a red onion really bothers me.   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

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Trudy?
Nothing like this as a perfect endorsement of our position.  Almost seems that Trump's fight over here with the swamp is going rival what is appearing the same with the NWO / WEF
What is little Trudy and Canuckistan going to contribute, they haven’t spent more than pennies on their own defense for decades.

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I for one am sick to death of his begging, insults and disrespect.  I am glad that he was shown the door.   

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A voice of reason.  Keir Starmer will probably want him arrested for hate speech.

LOL!  Sent link to son in Florida...he texts me back:  "the lips ain't matching up, man!!!" :laugh:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

The idea that somebody looked at a purple onion and called it a red onion really bothers me.   

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LOL!  Sent link to son in Florida...he texts me back:  "the lips ain't matching up, man!!!" :laugh:

Ha...I've been waiting for someone to notice that...lol
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Ha...I've been waiting for someone to notice that...lol

LOL!  My son thinks everything on the internet is fake!   :beer:
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The idea that somebody looked at a purple onion and called it a red onion really bothers me.   

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Emotions aside....  that is another  voice of reason.  Kudos to Sec. Rubio

Amen!

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Ha...I've been waiting for someone to notice that...lol

Ya well, there have been times when I've streamed something and the lips don't match with the voice.  It happens.

However, skepticism is warranted when you run across things like that on the internet. 

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Trump isn't the first US commander in chief to lose patience with Zelenskyy: resurfaced 2022 report
'Biden lost his temper' with Zelenskyy in June 2022 phone call, a report shows

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-isnt-first-us-commander-chief-lose-patience-zelenskyy-resurfaced-2022-report
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Ya well, there have been times when I've streamed something and the lips don't match with the voice.  It happens.

However, skepticism is warranted when you run across things like that on the internet.

I forgot which movie it was, but it was a classic scene from something like a Godzilla parody...

A Japanese guy is talking to some military guys, with that awful over dubbed English.  The two soldiers just looked at each other and shrugged.   :silly:
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Part and parcel of horsetrading is the ability to say "No." and walk away. 

If you can't do that, you aren't negotiating from a position of strength.

Really, you aren't negotiating at all, just waiting for the other person to set terms.

Yes! And the ENTIRE reason Zelinski was at the Whitehouse was because the negotiating was over!
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Yes! And the ENTIRE reason Zelinski was at the Whitehouse was because the negotiating was over!

What Z did yesterday he must have learned from our sleaziest used car dealers.  I am sure DJT has encounter plenty of bait and switch artists in his decades of doing business, but this one had to be the most audacious examples of all.

Z will regret this. 
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?? The last thing this world needs is a nuclear war!
I don't know. Total annhiliation might finally bring world peace, so long as it's all at once and no one is left behind to suffer. It might very well be the first thing that this world needs, to get rid of all of us, sad as it is to say.
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Yes! And the ENTIRE reason Zelinski was at the Whitehouse was because the negotiating was over!
And yet Trump let him walk out.

Surest way to end this war was with an imprisonment. Take the grifter out, the rest fall in line.
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And yet Trump let him walk out.


And again, my sleazy used car dealer analogy.....   Haven't you ever walked out of a car dealership, after the "salesman" pulls a fast one?
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And yet Trump let him walk out.

Surest way to end this war was with an imprisonment. Take the grifter out, the rest fall in line.

We must have been watching different events because the one I saw had him escorted out without his dinner or hotel room.
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We must have been watching different events because the one I saw had him escorted out without his dinner or hotel room.

I was jealous of that lady that escorted him out (kind of looked like Barbara Corkran of Shark Tank). 

She escorted him with a smile like a realtor would by removing a homeless guy at an open house.

Trump wanted great TV?  He should have had Tyrus from Gutfeld toss him out the door like a bag of potatoes
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They are going to drag us into WW111
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They are going to drag us into WW111

How? No Western countries are planning to attack anyone.

So who would start WWIII?

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With strong US backing....
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They are going to drag us into WW111

I'm leaning towards that happening as a reality ... they will all go after Putin and Putin will get backed into a corner and go nuclear...

China will then likely become a player and the ME just may jump in.  Meanwhile, the U.S. will have no option but to play defense because we have interests around the globe.

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How? No Western countries are planning to attack anyone.

So who would start WWIII?

Point 1.  Supposedly, the UK-UKE REM agreement has terms which commit UK troops

This 2nd UK initiative is just the  start an upmanship where this thing won't  stop escalating.

You don't think that Putin and the Chicoms won't react?
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Yes! And the ENTIRE reason Zelinski was at the Whitehouse was because the negotiating was over!

QFT!!!

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You didn't care when Russia took part of Ukraine in 2014. You didn't care about the fighting going on in Eastern Ukraine back then.

You didn't care when Obama called the Russia/Ukraine conflict a regional dispute over territory between immediate neighbors that wouldn't matter very much to us.

When MH17 was shot down and 298 innocent people were murdered, it was just something tragic that happened during a conflict on the other side of the world. You didn't accuse Obama of having blood on his hands for not be tougher with Putin.

In 2021, when Biden said it was too expensive to stay in Afghanistan, you agreed. You didn't cry for the millions of Afghan women and girls who would no longer be able to go to school, work, or show their faces in public. You didn't call for America to stand up for freedom and democracy. Biden even left an arsenal of weapons for a group that hates America and oppresses its own people and you were fine with that.

You didn't care when you saw people falling out of planes. When 13 Americans soldiers were blown up, you didn't cry. You didn't think it was even worth posting about. When Biden refused to say their names and when he checked his watch during the dignified transfer, that was no big deal. It was just a little disrespect. When the Biden admin droned an innocent family of 10, including an aid worker and 7 children, again, not something worth talking about.

But you are heartbroken right now. Emotionally crushed. Shattered. You are weeping for Zelensky and are devastated over the way he was treated. His feelings may have been hurt and that may have been the darkest moment in American history. Our country may never recover. And the fact that Trump won't promise him a blank check of your tax dollars to prolong a war that cannot be won...it's just the worst thing that's ever happened to you.
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Point 1.  Supposedly, the UK-UKE REM agreement has terms which commit UK troops

This 2nd UK initiative is just the  start an upmanship where this thing won't  stop escalating.

No it won't, they're there to keep the peace. Putin wants peace, right?

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QFT!!!

That little FACT seems to be lost to many on this thread!
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They are going to drag us into WW111

Not if we leave NATO.  It's time Europe takes care of Europe.

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No it won't, they're there to keep the peace. Putin wants peace, right?

Takes two to tangle dude.  What we are seeing is a huge provocation.  I hate Putin, but anyone thinking he won't respond in kind is delusional .  How does that work in the peace narrative?
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Takes two to tangle dude.  What we are seeing is a huge provocation

How are peacekeepers a provocation?

That's like saying security guards provoke criminals to invade a home.

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How are peacekeepers a provocation?

That's like saying security guards provoke criminals to invade a home.

I don't know how old you are, but the history of peace keeping forces is not a pretty sight.   And in this case, do you realize that if they get caught up in the hostilities, you basically have started WW III.
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That little FACT seems to be lost to many on this thread!

Not lost, willfully ignored. 




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I'm leaning towards that happening as a reality ... they will all go after Putin and Putin will get backed into a corner and go nuclear...

China will then likely become a player and the ME just may jump in.  Meanwhile, the U.S. will have no option but to play defense because we have interests around the globe.
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I'm leaning towards that happening as a reality ... they will all go after Putin and Putin will get backed into a corner and go nuclear...

China will then likely become a player and the ME just may jump in.  Meanwhile, the U.S. will have no option but to play defense because we have interests around the globe.

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Hot Air: Europeans Claim Solidarity at Emergency Ukraine Summit in London, But Provide Few Answers

The Ukraine war summit in London ended on Sunday with essentially as many questions remaining as before the meeting. No announcement was made of any other European nations willing to join Britain and France in committing troops on the ground, and continued demands were made that the United States underwrite the safety of any such force.

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