JUST IN: President Trump and Vice President JD Vance excoriate President Zelensky during heated meet

[Timber Rattler]

  But he's never going to change, and we have learned to adjust.

Nope!  I'm going to keep calling him out as the sociopathic narcissist that he is.

 

[catfish1957]

Nope!  I'm going to keep calling him out as the sociopathic narcissist that he is.

 

Guess you prefer POTUS Harris huh

[mountaineer]

So who could conceivably replace Zelensky?  Poroshenko?  He hates Russians even more than Zelensky!  Tymoshenko?  She hates Russians even more than Poroshenko!  Zaluzhnyi?  He hates Russians even more than Tymoshenko!

... The platform Ukraine Elections Polls and Ratings posted Ukraine's Center for Social and Market Research's (SOCIS) latest poll looking at public perception of Ukraine's potential presidential candidates conducted for several months in late 2024. The poll that surveyed 2,000 respondents found that Zelensky came second, with 24.3 percent of the votes, to Valerii Zaluzhnyi, a former Ukrainian military chief who received 36.1 percent of the vote. Other candidates that respondents found favorable included former President Petro Poroshenko, the People's Deputy of Ukraine Dmytro Razumkov, and former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.  ...
https://www.newsweek.com/would-ukraine-elections-see-zelensky-reelected-what-polls-say-2033148

Of course, these polls predate his disaster in D.C.

[mystery-ak]

Eric Schmitt
@Eric_Schmitt
Zelenskyy could have signed the deal five days earlier but wanted to come to the White House.

He’d been difficult for two weeks. Yet he wanted the White House meeting. Trump was upbeat about it even just the day before publicly and privately the day of.

Although he could have reset the whole thing Zelenskyy was antagonistic and over the top.

There are no more cards to play. No more “it could be your sons next” or “one more year and we’ll have them on their knees.”

America has to move to our core interests now: Homeland and China.

All he had to do was smile for the cameras, sign the minerals deal and have lunch. That’s it. He couldn’t do it. He failed his country and the relatively standard practice for an Oval Office meeting like this. 

There are now serious questions if we can even deal with him. He blew it.

He had a one foot putt but was more interested in litigating issues that should be discussed behind closed doors (and have been) in public.

It is in the national interest of the U.S. for there to be a peace deal. Now.

Trump ran on this. It’s not a surprise.

There will be no more money for war there. Not from us.

Now is the time for peace.
9:48 AM · Mar 1, 2025

[Timber Rattler]

Eric Schmitt
@Eric_Schmitt

Now is the time for peace.

Has anybody notified the Russians that "now is the time for peace?"

 

[catfish1957]

Has anybody notified the Russians that "now is the time for peace?"

 

We're through with the son of a bitch.  Send your comments and questions to the heads of state in Europe.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/1895903200466645217

[Timber Rattler]

We're through with the son of a bitch.  Send your comments and questions to the heads of state in Europe.

Think so?  Are the Russians through with the U.S. though?

Putin Ally Calls for Alaska's Return to Russia

https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-solovyov-calls-alaskas-return-russia-2006979



American hubris never turns out well.

 

[Timber Rattler]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/1895903200466645217

Consequences....   

[catfish1957]

Think so?  Are the Russians through with the U.S. though?

Putin Ally Calls for Alaska's Return to Russia

https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-solovyov-calls-alaskas-return-russia-2006979



American hubris never turns out well.

 

More of this f'n Russian boogey man bullshit?  I explained the economics dynamics earlier.  I am guessing you are too dense to understand  anything.  I am through with you;

[Timber Rattler]

More of this f'n Russian boogey man bullshit?  I explained the economics dynamics earlier.  I am guessing you are too dense to understand  anything.  I am through with you;

[libertybele]

... The platform Ukraine Elections Polls and Ratings posted Ukraine's Center for Social and Market Research's (SOCIS) latest poll looking at public perception of Ukraine's potential presidential candidates conducted for several months in late 2024. The poll that surveyed 2,000 respondents found that Zelensky came second, with 24.3 percent of the votes, to Valerii Zaluzhnyi, a former Ukrainian military chief who received 36.1 percent of the vote. Other candidates that respondents found favorable included former President Petro Poroshenko, the People's Deputy of Ukraine Dmytro Razumkov, and former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.  ...
https://www.newsweek.com/would-ukraine-elections-see-zelensky-reelected-what-polls-say-2033148

Of course, these polls predate his disaster in D.C.

Polls are polls.  I find it interesting that Z's predecessor Poroshenko polled favorably -- he is not without corruption nor controversy:

....During Poroshenko's 2019 campaign for reelection, a major scandal arose in which business partners of Poroshenko (but not Poroshenko himself) were accused of smuggling Russian components to Ukrainian defense factories at wildly inflated prices...........

......i]On 7 December 2015, Poroshenko met with U.S. Vice President Joe Biden in Kyiv to discuss Ukrainian-American cooperation. He met U.S. President Donald Trump in June 2017; BBC News falsely accused him of paying Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen between 400,000 and 600,000 dollars to organize this meeting. The BBC ended up having to state the allegation was untrue, apologizing to Poroshenko, deleting the article from its website, paying legal costs, and paying damages to Poroshenko. ............
[/i]
.........On 26 August 2014, Poroshenko met with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Minsk where Putin called on Ukraine not to escalate its offensive. Poroshenko responded by demanding Russia halt its supplying of arms to separatist fighters. He said his country wanted a political compromise and promised the interests of Russian-speaking people in eastern Ukraine would be considered...........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_Poroshenko

[Right_in_Virginia]

 

"UKRAINE: The UK provide £2.6 billion in loans to Zelensky delaying peace…"

Video:   

https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1895945266634821676

[Timber Rattler]

Polls are polls.  I find it interesting that Z's predecessor Poroshenko polled favorably -- he is not without corruption nor controversy:

Soooooo...the point being....careful what you wish for...you may just get it...good and hard!

 

[libertybele]

Soooooo...the point being....careful what you wish for...you may just get it...good and hard!

 

???? If you say so. 

[catfish1957]

Polls are polls.  I find it interesting that Z's predecessor Poroshenko polled favorably -- he is not without corruption nor controversy:

Didn't Zellgrifter declare something to the effect of electoral martial law? 

[catfish1957]

"UKRAINE: The UK provide £2.6 billion in loans to Zelensky delaying peace…"

Prolonging war, and accumulating more death and destruction

[Timber Rattler]

"UKRAINE: The UK provide £2.6 billion in loans to Zelensky delaying peace…"

So, I'm seeing all this "Zelensky delaying peace" bullshit but where are Putin and the Russians on this "peace" business?  Nobody has an answer for that and are ignoring the inconvenient fact that it was the Russians who invaded Ukraine and are blowing its eastern towns and cities into oblivion!  But none of you care about that.

[libertybele]

"UKRAINE: The UK provide £2.6 billion in loans to Zelensky delaying peace…"

Video:   

https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1895945266634821676

Loans?  Gee, I wonder how Ukraine is going to repay those loans?  My guess is with mineral rights?  Anyways, let the UK take care of Z -- as I'm sure he'll be asking the UK for more.

[Timber Rattler]

Prolonging war, and accumulating more death and destruction

They might as well just surrender, right?  Better red than dead?  Good thing that the Soviets never invaded the U.S. because we would have never survived with that line of nihilistic thinking.

[libertybele]

So, I'm seeing all this "Zelensky delaying peace" bullshit but where are Putin and the Russians on this "peace" business?  Nobody has an answer for that and are ignoring the inconvenient fact that it was the Russians who invaded Ukraine and are blowing its eastern towns and cities into oblivion!  But none of you care about that.

Ask the UK that question.  The US gave Ukraine plenty of money and aid ... and just tried to create a peace opportunity. Z snubbed his nose at us.  Why are you ignoring those inconvenient facts?

[Timber Rattler]

Ask the UK that question.  The US gave Ukraine plenty of money and aid ... and just tried to create a peace opportunity.  Why are you ignoring those inconvenient facts?

What "peace opportunity?"  Again I ask...what do the Russians think about that?  Have they said anything at all about "peace?"

You know, you really are making a mockery of your screen name.  "Libertybele"....pfffft!  What a joke.  You really don't care about "liberty" at all.

 

[libertybele]

They might as well just surrender, right?  Better red than dead?  Good thing that the Soviets never invaded the U.S. because we would have never survived with that line of nihilistic thinking.

    Please stop with your nonsensical analogies and assumptions.

[libertybele]

What "peace opportunity?"  Again I ask...what do the Russians think about that?  Have they said anything at all about "peace?"

You know, you really are making a mockery of your screen name.  "Libertybele"....pfffft!  What a joke.  You really don't care about "liberty" at all.

 

  Grasping at straws I see.  Another nonsensical assumption.

BTW instead of taking jabs at Briefers -- how about getting back to discussing the topic. "President Trump and JD Vance excoriate President Zelenskyy"....

Z made an absolute fool of himself and shut the door at an opportunity for peace.

[GtHawk]

Think so?  Are the Russians through with the U.S. though?

Putin Ally Calls for Alaska's Return to Russia

https://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-solovyov-calls-alaskas-return-russia-2006979



American hubris never turns out well.

 

all that proves is that Putin can talk shit just like Trump. Wake me when Putin comes with what’s left of his military to invade Alaska.

[catfish1957]

   Please stop with your nonsensical analogies and assumptions.

He's delusional.   Russia is the 11th largest country in the world in gdp, and is dropping like a rock.  It''s currency (rouble) is worth one Lincoln penny, and at an all time low   Dictator Putin is one oil bust away from a total economic collapse.

So, no I am not buying off on the fear porn, and  the Russian Boogie Man. Just better off ignoring him.

[DCPatriot]

In listening to Rubio's video -- he spoke to Z several times in regards to this issue  as well to other Ukraine members.  I find it difficult to believe that Z didn't realize what the US is trying to do to help with peace efforts so that Russia wouldn't be so quick to attack.  If he didn't realize this or if he listened to the DEM idiots like Blinken and Rice, then he's about as dumb as a sack of rocks.

Yes, he needs to do the right thing for Ukraine and step down.  My hunch is that he won't; he's enjoyed having power and his hands in the US cookie jar too much.

IMO, when you strip away all the BS, what happened yesterday all came down to, "Look...he's all dressed up!" and that other guy who asked sarcastically "Do you own a suit?"

For want of a suit and tie...and humiliation/ego, a kingdom was lost.

[mystery-ak]

Well....

https://twitter.com/ExxAlerts/status/1895893553525768402

[libertybele]

Well....

https://twitter.com/ExxAlerts/status/1895893553525768402

Well, is right!      Z now realizes he missed an opportunity; hopefully he'll find billions to fund his war.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1895958716937355464

[catfish1957]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/1895903200466645217

We pay for something like 60% of NATO...  If crap like this spreads through out Europe, someone tell me why we should remain in NATO.

Military comparison.----->. https://armedforces.eu/compare/country_Russia_vs_European_Union_EU#google_vignette Overall advantage EU

Nukes- EU-515. Russia- 5580. Significant advantage Russia, but enough in EU for a deterrent

GDP Comparison-  EU- $16T USD. Russia- $2T USD. Significant advantage EU

Popuation-  Europe- 601M. Russia- 144M  Significant advantage EU

[catfish1957]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1895958716937355464

Sounds like Z has found another sucker.   £ 3B  for 6 years?  Sounds like he doesn't need us any more.  Thanks Brits.....

[Timber Rattler]

Well, is right!      Z now realizes he missed an opportunity; hopefully he'll find billions to fund his war.

Uh...he said $250 billion from FROZEN RUSSIAN ASSETS. 

Now you're just being dishonest.

[240B]

Sounds like Z has found another sucker.   £ 3B  for 6 years?  Sounds like he doesn't need us any more.  Thanks Brits.....

3 billion vs. 350 billion - sounds like Z made a Great trade!

[libertybele]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1895958716937355464

Ok, but my question is why didn't the UK step up to the plate a couple of years ago, when this particular conflict first started?

[libertybele]

Uh...he said $250 billion from FROZEN RUSSIAN ASSETS. 

Now you're just being dishonest.

Save it! 

[catfish1957]

3 billion vs. 350 billion - sounds like Z made a Great trade!

   Maybe Z can invest in Crypto futures.  Losing those zeros is gonna hurt huh Z?

[Timber Rattler]

  Maybe Z can invest in Crypto futures.

You mean those that Trump's pushing?

Trump will host crypto summit at the White House March 7

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-host-crypto-summit-white-025006451.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMuqQ76bHIkQmN_vbtQz8f-llyeCHygqsFQAn0SYkvsjS4Qbvo7Uc2PU1kpRmYioFNStixgVgJKcyqlIX-t0cBECVPy8t3L22YKIZcpVEjaz5bpcgOp3pAs_QchLcse1ToMElXlwq-g8EiHElCWi3rwn_RaVhNLnd2YUfU-TzzDY

BTW...

Trump supporters lose $12bn as president’s cryptocurrency collapses

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/02/27/trump-supporters-lose-12bn-as-presidents-crypto-boom-fades/

Donald Trump’s supporters have lost more than $12bn (£9.5bn) in a month after the value of the president’s cryptocurrency collapsed.

$Trump, a so-called “meme coin” unveiled on Jan 17, three days before Mr Trump’s inauguration, has lost more than 80pc of its value since its peak on Jan 19.

This has led to its overall worth falling from a peak of $15bn to $2.7bn on Thursday, as it suffered amid a wider crypto rout.

The paper value of the coins owned by Mr Trump himself has also fallen by $50bn.

While Mr Trump’s own losses have not been crystallised, investors are on the hook after spending heavily to back the Trump coin in the run-up to his inauguration, partly as a show of support but also as a gamble that the token would rise in value.

EXCERPT

[catfish1957]

Save it! 

Just £3B?  Wonder how long it will take before he calls the British PM a bitch. 

[mystery-ak]

Ok, but my question is why didn't the UK step up to the plate a couple of years ago, when this particular conflict first started?

The UK has been helping but not on the scale the US has...

[libertybele]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1895958716937355464

A 100 year agreement -- looks like Z sold mineral rights to the highest bidder -- and he knew that before he came to the WH yesterday.  Just guessing here.

[libertybele]

We pay for something like 60% of NATO...  If crap like this spreads through out Europe, someone tell me why we should remain in NATO.

Military comparison.----->. https://armedforces.eu/compare/country_Russia_vs_European_Union_EU#google_vignette Overall advantage EU

Nukes- EU-515. Russia- 5580. Significant advantage Russia, but enough in EU for a deterrent

GDP Comparison-  EU- $16T USD. Russia- $2T USD. Significant advantage EU

Popuation-  Europe- 601M. Russia- 144M  Significant advantage EU

Get us both out of NATO and the UN. 

[Smokin Joe]

There is a post and thread on X about *Blinken, Rice, Nuland, and Vindman conference called with Zelensky on the flight to DC advising him to "stand strong" and "be tough" and "don't let Trump bully you" *.......I questioned if it is a rumor or guess...I asked for verification...none given.

If true it explains what happened in the Oval.

https://twitter.com/nedryun/status/1895577464379777335

Yes, that would certainly explain a lot.
It also would be violations of the Logan Act.

[catfish1957]

A 100 year agreement -- looks like Z sold mineral rights to the highest bidder -- and he knew that before he came to the WH yesterday.  Just guessing here.

100 years?  Talk about selling the soul of his nation.  He'd gotten a better deal over here, as what I understand is we would have just recouped loan costs.  Plus does he think the level of protection from the UK to protect industrial interests will be as good as ours?     What a rube.

Wonder if there will be a lynch mob when he gets back to Kiev?

[bigheadfred]

Uh...he said $250 billion from FROZEN RUSSIAN ASSETS. 

Now you're just being dishonest.

European governments cannot legally seize frozen Russian assets for their own use.

[libertybele]

With all that has transpired surrounding Z, the UK and now Norway, it will be interesting to see what Trump's next move is. Well, one thing is for certain, we won't be supporting the Ukraine anymore.

Perhaps France, Canada and Mexico will thumb their noses at the U.S. as  well?

[catfish1957]

Yes, that would certainly explain a lot.
It also would be violations of the Logan Act.

And that stunt likely  sabotaged the rare earth metals deal too. Time to go scorched earth on these traitors

[catfish1957]

Get us both out of NATO and the UN.

Maybe not the UN, but kick it out of the country, and stop subsidizing it. 

NATO?  Withdraw ASAP.....

[libertybele]

And that stunt likely  sabotaged the rare earth metals deal too. Time to go scorched earth on these traitors

It's beyond time.  Waiting on AG Bondi .....

[Timber Rattler]

European governments cannot legally seize frozen Russian assets for their own use.

Who says?