Author Topic: JUST IN: President Trump and Vice President JD Vance excoriate President Zelensky during heated meet  (Read 32308 times)

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suspicious that EU leaders immediately released talking points supporting Ukraine. EU is pissed they have to divert $ to military as US reduces its NATO $, and also that the US will be imposing tariffs to match what EU charges us.

This was a setup from word go and Trump was right to throw him out and sever relationship with Ukraine.

Z thought he could roll Trump like Z rolled Biden

He chose poorly.

EU collusion with the Democrats.

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There is a post and thread on X about *Blinken, Rice, Nuland, and Vindman conference called with Zelensky on the flight to DC advising him to "stand strong" and "be tough" and "don't let Trump bully you" *.......I questioned if it is a rumor or guess...I asked for verification...none given.

If true it explains what happened in the Oval.



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Though this is being reported by "The Hill" -- here is the rundown.  Quite frankly, I haven't liked Z's attitude toward the U.S. for awhile - begging Biden and Congress for more money and more money and  more money making it know that if they didn't give him money Putin would win -- IMHO he in essence had the same attitude in the meeting today --a expecting more rather than a than you. 

Yes I realize Biden & Company siphoned off some money but I believe Z did as well and he doesn't want to see his cash cow ending.  Some rare earth minerals in exchange for U.S. support -Z told Rubio he was going to sign paperwork and then decided not to -- he knew that before the meeting, but waited until he got in front of the press.  Wrong move.

Anyhow ... I remain Team Trump and Team USA on this issue. Trump was standing up for our country and the American people.

Prayers up for the people of Ukraine -- they need them now more than ever.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5170062-trump-zelensky-meeting-derail/

Nothing in there about any Zelensky "demands".

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Since when is it OK for the political leader to make an agreement with SOSUS, go to the Whitehouse to sign and celebrate the deal and instead start negotiating again on camera? NO president should or would tolerate such as that!

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tipping hat!!    :beer:

And has anybody but me noticed that our two most vocal ZEE Boyz are AWOL today?

Awww...not to worry Zel...they'll both be back up on their knees in no time.


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That “stare” is why I NEVER entertained marrying a Cuban woman.
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"Zelenskyy declares that he won't negotiate an end to the war without security guarantees from the United States -- And then admits that he doesn't have enough weapons to push Russia out of Ukraine -- And then demands more money from the U.S."


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Go to hell you stupid Putin-arse kissing jackass.

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Well, that was creative.

A few pages back this was Briefer @MeganC  suggested that the Ukes be given nukes.  That's all I need to know about her.
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"Trump’s treasury secretary just said that this was the 3rd time Zelensky failed to sign an agreement in the last few weeks.  The first was in Kyiv and the second was in Munich. He planned this. What a complete slap to the face of the American people."

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https://twitter.com/_johnnymaga/status/1895635419867537546

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https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/02/28/trump-zelensky-meeting-transcript-full-text-video-oval-office/

There's the full transcript.

Trump and Vance don't come off good. Make you feel bad for Zelensky. I dunno. There should be a mutual respect of a guy who is up against the wall from a huge bully.

I don't think Zelensky was disrespectful at all. Even thanks the American people.

 :shrug:

 **nononono*

Now wait a minute....   Z entered into a preliminary agreement the past few days with Rubio to make a rare earth metals deal, contingent on a infrastructure rebuilding commitment.   Then BANG!!!!  in the middle of the presser, Z claims that it is with a security agreement.  This little shit pulled a bait and switch, and tried to embarrass Trump, Vance, Rubio, and the entire admin.

Expalin to me how  that shit deserve respect?
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Z is such a punk and it's finally come back to bite him on the butt. As said previously, he thought he could roll Trump and came in betting with a pair of 3's.
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A few pages back this was Briefer @MeganC  suggested that the Ukes be given nukes.  That's all I need to know about her.

I said they need nukes. I did not say anyone should give them nukes. The Ukrainians have the ability to enrich uranium, produce plutonium, and they have the knowledge and people who can build nuclear weapons. This is a logical step for them if they are to deter Russian aggression.
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Chris Hayes: Trump ‘irreparably destroyed’ world order with Zelenskyy blowup

“Today, Donald Trump irreparably destroyed the 80-year-old post-World War II international order,” says Chris Hayes on Trump and JD Vance’s attack on Zelenskyy in the Oval Office.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chris-hayes-trump-irreparably-destroyed-world-order-with-zelenskyy-blowup/vi-AA1A1jDO?ocid=widgetonlockscreen&cvid=1499a756bee64bc9b23b502f0c39e15a&ei=139
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I still say this "feud" is for the benefit of Putin.  Both Trump and Zelenskyy have background in the entertainment industry and such a public display of animosity might go a long way toward getting Putin to soften his stance on peace terms if he thinks the US has no intentions of controlling Ukraine. :shrug:
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Wesley Clark: Kellogg Should Get Zelensky to Apologize, Then Get Minerals Deal Done

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 Friday’s broadcast of Newsmax TV’s “The Record,” former NATO Supreme

Allied Commander Gen. Wesley Clark (Ret.) stated that Special Envoy to

Ukraine and Russia, Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg (Ret.) “needs to go to

Zelensky, have Zelensky make a statement, apologize


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Excerpt:
White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and Homeland Security Advisor Stephen Miller is on a tear, delivering one blistering take after another to dismantle the liberal media’s whining while showcasing the Trump administration’s dominance. So, it’s no surprise he had plenty to say about the explosive Oval Office showdown Friday between President Donald Trump, Vice President JD Vance, and an ungrateful Volodymyr Zelensky. The Ukrainian president strutted in like he held the reins, forgetting he was facing the most powerful man on the planet—and it didn’t end well.


Zelenskyy took advice from Democrats before this meeting. They must have promised him something.

The video shows that JD could see all the things that Trump couldn’t because he was sitting beside Zelenskyy.

JD was having none of it and called him out. He has Trump’s back

https://redstatenation.com/stephen-miller-crushes-zelensky-reveals-what-really-led-to-the-epic-confrontation-this-damning-close-up-footage-wont-help-the-ukrainian-leader/

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My hot take? Zelenskyy was encouraged by certain European leaders to take on Trump in front of the media.
It may have backfired.
Hear me out.

Not to mention Zelenskyy (to me) looked uncomfortable like he was forcing himself at theatre.

Zelenskyy may be a great leader and he’s been thru a lot. And I will bet he wants only the best for his countrymen. But I have to note: what happens when there is no more war? He is not given the hero status he has today? And there are elections?

I spoke to a foreign official today who happened to have nearly the exact same take. He didn’t think it was a “good look” for Zelenskyy.

Zelenskyy may have been told to take on Trump in front of the media… And the media and the American people would side with zelensky. Partly true… But not for Trump voters.

Lastly, if Zelenskyy truly wanted something from Trump, he doesn’t understand Trump at all by not showing up  in a suit.
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My hot take? Zelenskyy was encouraged by certain European leaders to take on Trump in front of the media.
It may have backfired.
Hear me out.

Not to mention Zelenskyy (to me) looked uncomfortable like he was forcing himself at theatre.

Zelenskyy may be a great leader and he’s been thru a lot. And I will bet he wants only the best for his countrymen. But I have to note: what happens when there is no more war? He is not given the hero status he has today? And there are elections?

I spoke to a foreign official today who happened to have nearly the exact same take. He didn’t think it was a “good look” for Zelenskyy.

Zelenskyy may have been told to take on Trump in front of the media… And the media and the American people would side with zelensky. Partly true… But not for Trump voters.

Lastly, if Zelenskyy truly wanted something from Trump, he doesn’t understand Trump at all by not showing up  in a suit.
5:23 PM · Feb 28, 2025

That sounds like a reasonable take on the situation to me.

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Also central to the argument is this little POS Z did a campaign stop for Kamala last October.

The fact he interjected himself into our POTUS election show his lack of awareness and basic intelligence.  Not smart for Grifters to play favorites.
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To the hand-wringing Europeans who felt offended by President Trump rejecting being lectured by President Zelensky: Be my guest to defend Ukraine from Putin.

It is long past time for the Europeans to show they are capable of defending their own continent.
 
They’ve allowed their militaries to be hollowed out and when Europe speaks, no bad guy listens.
 
I say this with great sadness: The last group of people that I would count on to defend freedom are the Europeans.
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Perhaps… and that is all it is… perhaps… if Elon Musk wore more respectful attire in the Oval Office, others would take the cue.
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To the hand-wringing Europeans who felt offended by President Trump rejecting being lectured by President Zelensky: Be my guest to defend Ukraine from Putin.

It is long past time for the Europeans to show they are capable of defending their own continent.
 
They’ve allowed their militaries to be hollowed out and when Europe speaks, no bad guy listens.
 
I say this with great sadness: The last group of people that I would count on to defend freedom are the Europeans.
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