All flights halted at Reagan National Airport due to plane crash

[mystery-ak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfgllf1L9_4

This appears to be a calm and rational analysis of the crash given the available information. DEI does not appear to have been a factor from the ATC end of things, but not all the information is out yet.

Still, getting ahead of the departing administration's DEI initiative is a very good idea. This sort of tragedy can occur even with competent people involved.

Thanks for posting...

[DCPatriot]

Krístina Wong
@kristina_wong

Spoke to someone who served in the same unit as the Army Black Hawk crew, knew them personally, and flew those routes. He made the following points:

2) The co-pilot was going through her annual evaluation for night flying.

Stopped reading right there...

[Smokin Joe]

Stopped reading right there...

Not pointing any fingers because we don't know what happened on board the helo (and may not, going forward). Helicopter flying takes a version of fine motor control, which women seem to do well at. She may have been competent, but for whatever reason the notion that there were three other aircraft in the pattern didn't seem to get through. We don't even know she was doing the flying at the time. Small errors combine to make major foul-ups, and while any one of those might have been no biggie, I see two or three that were a real problem together. 

[DB]

Not pointing any fingers because we don't know what happened on board the helo (and may not, going forward). Helicopter flying takes a version of fine motor control, which women seem to do well at. She may have been competent, but for whatever reason the notion that there were three other aircraft in the pattern didn't seem to get through. We don't even know she was doing the flying at the time. Small errors combine to make major foul-ups, and while any one of those might have been no biggie, I see two or three that were a real problem together.

You would think that when in the direct flight path of the runways that the helicopter elevation window would be limited to between 100 and 250 feet and to stay on the far side of the river away from the airport. Then it would be nearly impossible for a plane or boat to converge with their flight path.

[DCPatriot]

Not pointing any fingers because we don't know what happened on board the helo (and may not, going forward). Helicopter flying takes a version of fine motor control, which women seem to do well at. She may have been competent, but for whatever reason the notion that there were three other aircraft in the pattern didn't seem to get through. We don't even know she was doing the flying at the time. Small errors combine to make major foul-ups, and while any one of those might have been no biggie, I see two or three that were a real problem together.

FACT:  My feelings about women in "COMBAT" -like occupations are the same as President Trump's and Pete Hegseth's.

If the pilot was male, this thread wouldn't have been necessary.

[Smokin Joe]

You would think that when in the direct flight path of the runways that the helicopter elevation window would be limited to between 100 and 250 feet and to stay on the far side of the river away from the airport. Then it would be nearly impossible for a plane or boat to converge with their flight path.

I agree, but I don't know what obstacles exist over there, either. Ideally, they would never be in each other's airspace and transit corridors would not intersect.

[Smokin Joe]

FACT:  My feelings about women in "COMBAT" -like occupations are the same as President Trump's and Pete Hegseth's.

If the pilot was male, this thread wouldn't have been necessary.

IIRC there were some pretty good hog drivers over in the gulf.

But we don't know who was on the stick, and this was not a combat situation.

[rustynail]

Leading Report
@LeadingReport
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BREAKING: The helicopter pilot in the D.C. plane crash was a woman with 500 hours of flight experience.

[Smokin Joe]

Hoover, Pilot Debrief on the collision.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzQe6W7vcu4

[DCPatriot]

IIRC there were some pretty good hog drivers over in the gulf.

But we don't know who was on the stick, and this was not a combat situation.

It was a "TRAINING" flight situation.  That's sufficient IMO, to know who was at the controls.

I'm not saying she should have been in a kitchen somewhere baking cookies (hat tip to Hillary Clinton).

Netflix movies starring 110lb women dropping a half dozen male perps are NOT reality.

[Smokin Joe]

It was a "TRAINING" flight situation.  That's sufficient IMO, to know who was at the controls.

I'm not saying she should have been in a kitchen somewhere baking cookies (hat tip to Hillary Clinton).

Netflix movies starring 110lb women dropping a half dozen male perps are NOT reality.

Training includes keeping current on the aircraft. Most noncombat missions fall under that heading. It does not mean she was new to the aircraft, and 500 hours may not be as impressive as senior commercial pilots, but it's no newbie, either.

We know NETFLIX is BS, but you don't have to be Hulk Hogan to drive a Helo.

I going to wait for more info before I point any fingers.

[Sighlass]

It was a "TRAINING" flight situation.  That's sufficient IMO, to know who was at the controls.

I'm not saying she should have been in a kitchen somewhere baking cookies (hat tip to Hillary Clinton).

Netflix movies starring 110lb women dropping a half dozen male perps are NOT reality.

What we do know is there was a male voice confirming they had visual. And more than once....

[Kamaji]

It’s long since past time that Reagan National was permanently closed to commercial air traffic.  There’s an oped by a retired commercial pilot whose summary of the flight path to the airport reads like an ice slalom ride. 

The only reason it hasn’t been closed is because the selfish prigs in Congress find it more convenient than Dulles for their quick jaunts home for the weekend.

[DCPatriot]

Training includes keeping current on the aircraft. Most noncombat missions fall under that heading. It does not mean she was new to the aircraft, and 500 hours may not be as impressive as senior commercial pilots, but it's no newbie, either.

We know NETFLIX is BS, but you don't have to be Hulk Hogan to drive a Helo.

I going to wait for more info before I point any fingers.

 

[mystery-ak]

Night before DC crash, another airliner nearly collided with a helicopter: report

 The night before American Eagle Flight 5342 collided with an Army Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan National Airport on Wednesday night, a jet that tried to land at the same airport had to circle around and make another approach after a helicopter approached its flight path, according to reports.

The Washington Post reported that an audio recording from air traffic control captured the encounter, and ultimately, Republic Airways Flight 4514 landed safely, flight tracking software shows.

As to Wednesday’s crash, officials said they believe there are no survivors.

Responders continue to sort through the wreckage in search of remains. In total, there were 67 people on board the helicopter and airliner, combined.
Posted by Greg Wehner

[mystery-ak]

10 min(s) ago
NTSB recovers voice and data recorders from plane

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has recovered critical evidence that could piece together the final moments before Wednesday's deadly midair collision.

In a statement to Fox News, the agency said the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder from American Airlines flight 5342 has been found by NTSB investigators.

"The recorders are at the NTSB labs for evaluation," an NTSB spokesperson said.

Fox News Jennifer Griffin contributed to this update.
Posted by Louis Casiano

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1885087843623518699

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1885090575227011190

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1885035725852131343

[Bigun]

It’s long since past time that Reagan National was permanently closed to commercial air traffic.  There’s an oped by a retired commercial pilot whose summary of the flight path to the airport reads like an ice slalom ride. 

The only reason it hasn’t been closed is because the selfish prigs in Congress find it more convenient than Dulles for their quick jaunts home for the weekend.

 

[240B]

Mission of the Black Hawk Helicopter Revealed

Trending Politics News
By Chris Powell
January 30, 2025

New details have emerged about the U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopter that collided with an American Airlines regional jet over Washington, D.C., late Wednesday night, sending both aircraft plunging into the Potomac River. According to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, the military helicopter was conducting a continuity of government mission—an exercise tied to national security and emergency preparedness.

American Airlines flight 5342, which had 64 people on board and departed from Wichita, Kansas, went down near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport after striking the UH-60 Black Hawk. The three soldiers aboard the helicopter, a captain, a staff sergeant, and a chief warrant officer, were also killed, according to the Pentagon.

Hegseth described the Black Hawk’s flight as part of a “routine annual retraining of night flights on a standard corridor,” raising immediate questions about why a highly sensitive military mission was operating in such close proximity to civilian air traffic.

“Tragically, last night, a mistake was made,” Hegseth explained.

“We do know on our side who was involved. It was a fairly experienced crew, and that was doing a required annual night evaluation,” Hegseth said earlier. “We anticipate that the investigation will quickly be able to determine whether the aircraft was in the quarter at the right altitude at the time of the incident.”

“It’s a tragedy, a horrible loss of life for those 64 souls on that civilian airliner. And of course, the three soldiers in that Black Hawk. They’re in our prayers, their families and their communities as people are notified.”

(more)
https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/new-mission-of-the-black-hawk-helicopter-revealed-mace/

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1885092139710746953

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

It’s long since past time that Reagan National was permanently closed to commercial air traffic.  There’s an oped by a retired commercial pilot whose summary of the flight path to the airport reads like an ice slalom ride. 

The only reason it hasn’t been closed is because the selfish prigs in Congress find it more convenient than Dulles for their quick jaunts home for the weekend.

Why not privatize all airports?

[Kamaji]

Why not privatize all airports?

[Wingnut]

Why not privatize all airports?

That is the stupidist comment I have ever from a poster on this site