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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2025, 10:24:41 am »
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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2025, 10:25:54 am »
Quote from: The_Reader_David on January 20, 2025, 10:03:06 am
Trump's DOJ needs to find a rock-solid case that one of the recipients of these purported grants of immunity (I'd favor Fauci if the case can be made) and bring an indictments so the SCOTUS can rule that the President cannot use his pardons power to grant immunity from prosecution.
Seems to me, Fauci is still on the hot seat for crimes a state AG may prosecute him for, as only federal crimes are 'pardoned' by Joe.
The murder of many thousands of civilians is not a federal crime and should not be treated as such.

We need this desperately to be pursued in order that all the evidence is laid out before America so it will not be repeated again.
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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2025, 10:28:27 am »
Quote from: The_Reader_David on January 20, 2025, 10:03:06 am
These are not pardons, but (purported) grants of immunity from prosecution.  The Constitution does not give the President the authority to grant immunity from prosecution, only pardons.  In fact, granting immunity from prosecution is a violation of the Presidential oath of office, to see that that laws of the United States are faithfully executed.

Excellent legal argument, @The_Reader_David .  Nice job.

Another avenue would be to file a class-action lawsuit against Fauci (for which tens of thousands of people would have standing).  And when Fauci claims immunity via the pardon, that would be the legal door needed for challenging the pardon based on Biden's mental capacity.  Win that argument, and then all the pardons get tossed including Hunter's.
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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2025, 10:30:02 am »
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In the context of January 6 defendants, the DOJ has argued that accepting a pardon from former President Donald Trump would be considered "a confession of guilt" for their crimes. This was highlighted in a case before U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols, where federal prosecutors stated that a pardon would not erase the conviction, and accepting one would necessitate a confession of Guilt.
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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2025, 10:38:06 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on January 20, 2025, 10:24:41 am

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1881360778554405235
Not certain Byrd testified before the Select Committee so he may still be on the hook.

Here's what I dug up

What You Need To Know About The Officers Testifying Before Jan. 6 Committee
July 27, 2021 By:Alana Wise
From left: U.S. Capitol Police officer Aquilino Gonell, Washington Metropolitan Police Department officer Michael Fanone, Washington Metropolitan Police Department officer Daniel Hodges and U.S. Capitol Police officer Harry Dunn arrive to testify at the House select committee hearing on the Jan. 6 attack on Capitol Hill on Tuesday. / pool via AP

Four law enforcement officers who responded to the deadly Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol are delivering testimony Tuesday to the House select committee investigating the melee.

Their remarks will be the first heard in front of the new, Democratic-led panel.

The four officers are:

Harry Dunn and Aquilino Gonell of the U.S. Capitol Police;
and Michael Fanone and Daniel Hodges of the Washington, D.C., Metropolitan Police Department.
https://www.gpb.org/news/2021/07/27/what-you-need-know-about-the-officers-testifying-jan-6-committee

Here's Biden's official order
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/media/1385751/dl?inline
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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2025, 10:44:03 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 20, 2025, 10:28:27 am
Excellent legal argument, @The_Reader_David .  Nice job.

Another avenue would be to file a class-action lawsuit against Fauci (for which tens of thousands of people would have standing).  And when Fauci claims immunity via the pardon, that would be the legal door needed for challenging the pardon based on Biden's mental capacity.  Win that argument, and then all the pardons get tossed including Hunter's.
Anarchy would ensue as that would open a much wider door well beyond just the pardon power, in challenging each and every decision made by Biden as President.

It is why no federal court ever accepted a challenge to the 2020 election.
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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2025, 10:48:40 am »
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And when Fauci claims immunity via the pardon, that would be the legal door needed for challenging the pardon based on Biden's mental capacity.  Win that argument, and then all the pardons get tossed including Hunter's.

Now that's an interesting angle!

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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2025, 10:51:24 am »
Makes me wonder that, for the bureaucrats here that worked in the administration or military, of whether the President as Chief Executive can simply abort their pensions and other side benefits if he chose to?

Don't know if there exist limits on his power to do so.
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Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2025, 11:02:15 am »
Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
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President Joe Biden on Monday issued preemptive pardons to potential targets of the incoming Trump administration, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, retired Gen. Mark Milley and lawmakers who served on the House Jan. 6 Committee.

"Our nation relies on dedicated, selfless public servants every day. They are the lifeblood of our democracy," Biden said in a statement just hours before President-elect Donald Trump is sworn into office.
 
"Yet alarmingly, public servants have been subjected to ongoing threats and intimidation for faithfully discharging their duties," Biden added.

Trump in his 2024 campaign repeatedly vowed "retribution" on his political enemies, specifically singling out lawmakers like Liz Cheney who investigated the attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump said Cheney and other committee members should be put in jail.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-preemptively-pardons-anthony-fauci-mark-milley-and-jan-6-committee-members/ar-AA1xw3V7?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=987b35042110409df332816ad5c672bd&ei=10
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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2025, 11:04:26 am »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on January 20, 2025, 10:25:54 am
Seems to me, Fauci is still on the hot seat for crimes a state AG may prosecute him for, as only federal crimes are 'pardoned' by Joe.
The murder of many thousands of civilians is not a federal crime and should not be treated as such.

We need this desperately to be pursued in order that all the evidence is laid out before America so it will not be repeated again.
Senator Rand Paul Vows to Continue Investigation on Madman Tony Fauci
If there was ever any doubt as to who bears responsibility for the COVID pandemic, Biden’s pardon of Fauci forever seals the deal.

As Chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee I will not rest until the entire truth of the coverup is exposed.

Fauci’s pardon will only serve as an accelerant to pierce the veil of deception.

Ignominious! Anthony Fauci will go down in history as the first government scientist to be preemptively pardoned for a crime.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/01/senator-rand-paul-vows-continue-investigation-madman-tony/
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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2025, 11:08:12 am »
Quote from: mountaineer on January 20, 2025, 09:08:34 am
December, 2020. Jake Tapper asks President-elect Biden about the rumor that Trump may issue some preemptive pardons before leaving office.

Biden: You're not going to see me do that.

What a friggin' liar.
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« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2025, 11:08:42 am »
IMO, this shows democrats see themselves as able to lie and cheat the American people, steal from them, ignore the Constitution and rule of law but should not be held accountable.  You see the same attitude in the Senate hearings where the ilk of Adam Schiff questions the integrity of nominees while he could well be the most corrupt member ever in the senate, and that's saying something. 9999hair out0000
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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
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« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2025, 11:19:01 am »
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WOW!  She is essentially admitting that her husband committed perjury for Biden, yet is now being left out in the cold.  The mafia has turned against one of its own.
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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2025, 11:23:29 am »
Fauci's pardon extends back to January 1, 2014...what was he doing way back then that we don't know about?

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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2025, 11:29:18 am »
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WOW!  She is essentially admitting that her husband committed perjury for Biden, yet is now being left out in the cold.  The mafia has turned against one of its own.

Vindman chose...poorly.

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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2025, 11:33:14 am »
Quote from: Canuck Conservative on January 20, 2025, 10:48:40 am
Now that's an interesting angle!

Another legal strategy would be to indict Biden once he leaves office.  (influence peddling, possession of classified documents, tax evasion, etc.)  Biden's only defense would be mental competence.  And if he goes that route, then his pardons would become null and void.
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Re: Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2025, 11:33:45 am »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on January 20, 2025, 11:23:29 am
Fauci's pardon extends back to January 1, 2014...what was he doing way back then that we don't know about?

https://twitter.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1881370396970336551/photo/1

While there might be something else we don't know about, the reason for the date is something really important that's a matter of public record:  If you look up when the grant proposal from the EcoHealth Alliance entitled "UNDERSTANDING THE RISK OF BAT CORONAVIRUS EMERGENCE" was funded by Fauci's agency, the date on the grant is June 1, 2014.  That was the grant that paid for the development of COVID-19 at the Wuhan Institute for Virology, since gain-of-function research was illegal to conduct in the US.
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« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2025, 11:37:20 am »
   I'm surprised he didn't pardon his brother, or did he?
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