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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-preemptively-pardons-anthony-fauci-mark-milley-jan/story?id=117878813

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President Joe Biden on Monday issued preemptive pardons to potential targets of the incoming Trump administration, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, retired Gen. Mark Milley and lawmakers who served on the House Jan. 6 Committee.

"Our nation relies on dedicated, selfless public servants every day. They are the lifeblood of our democracy," Biden said in a statement just hours before President-elect Donald Trump is sworn into office.

"Yet alarmingly, public servants have been subjected to ongoing threats and intimidation for faithfully discharging their duties," Biden added.

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Everybody gets a pardon in this crooked outgoing administration!   9999hair out0000
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I am exercising my authority under the Constitution to pardon General Mark A. Milley, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the Members of Congress and staff who served on the Select Committee, and the U.S. Capitol and D.C. Metropolitan police officers who testified before the Select Committee,"

He pardons those who appeared before Congress and lied to it.

This man is totally despicable and Satan will welcome him with open arms.
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-preemptively-pardons-anthony-fauci-mark-milley-jan/story?id=117878813

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Everybody gets a pardon in this crooked outgoing administration!   9999hair out0000
It is not a pardon, it is amnesty and immunity.
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Biden pardons this morning on his way out include Anthony Fauci, Liz Cheney, Bennie Thompson, Zoe Lofgren, Adam Schiff, Pete Aguilar, Stephanie Murphy, Jamie Raskin, Elaine Luria and Adam Kinzinger.

If they did nothing wrong, why the pardons?

Unless…
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They are GUILTY of treason and perjury. 

Most of this country knew of their evilness.  We The People will still prevail.

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December, 2020. Jake Tapper asks President-elect Biden about the rumor that Trump may issue some preemptive pardons before leaving office.

Biden: You're not going to see me do that.

https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/1881334756304118234
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I hesitate to express this thought, but these pardons may aggravate some unbalanced person enough to inspire him to mete out his own brand of justice against these bums, e.g., "If the government can't prosecute traitor Milley, I'll make sure he gets justice."

In any event, as Sam J. says, it tarnishes the recipients of the pardons:

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I was thinking as I enjoyed my coffee on this lovely Inauguration Day when Trump will once again be president and our country will start feeling like America again, receiving a pardon from the worst president in HISTORY will haunt @Liz_Cheney
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It is not a pardon, it is amnesty and immunity.

And because they are immune they have lost their right to remain silent. They can now be forced to testify about their crimes.
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I hope Fitton is correct and, if so, Trump, Bondi, et all., take his advice.
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LIEden admitted knowing that Pelosiroo's Kangaroo Kommittee. Milley, and Fauci committed serious crimes.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Liz Cheney is not pardoned from civil liability
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So I guess Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and especially Anthony Fauci really are war criminals who committed treason. Why else would they need pardons?
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I am absolutely certain that there is no provision in the U. S. Constitution that allows preemptive pardons and I'm equally certain that I'm not the only one who knows this.
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A pardon in law is a government decision that forgives a person for a crime, relieving them of some or all legal consequences of their conviction. It is often granted by a head of state, such as a president or governor, and does not erase the fact of the conviction but can help restore the individual's rights.

Legal immunity, or immunity from prosecution, is a legal status wherein an individual or entity cannot be held liable for a violation of the law, in order to facilitate societal aims that outweigh the value of imposing liability in such cases.

I still cannot understand the idea of Biden granting a "pardon" to individuals who are not under investigation for anything, are not charged with anything, and have never been convicted of anything. A pardon for what? A Biden pardon is nothing more than a Hasbro 'Get Out of Jail Free' card, with the same weight and authority.

The idea of Biden wandering around D.C. like the Pope, granting his friends divine absolution (all your sins are forgiven, including the sins no one knows about) is absurd. THESE ARE NOT PARDONS! They are absolutions or 'immunity'. A pardon is for a conviction.

These so-called 'preemptive pardons' will be challenged. The challenge should at least force the higher courts to coin a word for and to define legally whatever this nonsense is, because it is not a 'pardon' by any definition. There is no way they can get away with this subversion of the entire American Judicial System. It is past time for this bullshit to get resolved once and for all. These people are obviously GULITY AS HELL. Otherwise, Biden would not have so-called 'pardoned' them. Biden picked the people he knows are guilty to protect them from justice.

Trump has the best legal people in the country. If anyone can figure this nonsense out, I am sure they can and will. The pardon issue will be an annoyance, but I do not believe it will protect these people from their obvious and copious crimes. And, I am not sure that any pardon from anybody will protect the proud traitor Milley (who bragged about it) from the UCMJ.

Also, there is the issue of Biden's mental condition. Is Biden legally of 'sound mind and body' to issue any kind of legal declaration. Biden is so obviously mentally impaired there is no real way to know who initiated the pardons, or if Biden actually knew what he was doing when he supposedly signed them. Even though this has been expected for month, even so, it still stinks to high heaven.
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These are not pardons, but (purported) grants of immunity from prosecution.  The Constitution does not give the President the authority to grant immunity from prosecution, only pardons.  In fact, granting immunity from prosecution is a violation of the Presidential oath of office, to see that that laws of the United States are faithfully executed.

Trump's DOJ needs to find a rock-solid case that one of the recipients of these purported grants of immunity (I'd favor Fauci if the case can be made) and bring an indictments so the SCOTUS can rule that the President cannot use his pardons power to grant immunity from prosecution.

Failing that, if the SCOTUS upholds this use of the pardon power, every one of them should be hauled before a series of Congressional committees, since they could no longer plead the Fifth to avoid testifying, and grilled about their misconduct, dragged into the FBI to be questioned about associates who participated in their misconduct who were not granted immunity by Biden on his way out the door (I'm thinking mostly about the people in the NIH who actually took the decisions to skirt the ban on gain-of-function research by funding its conduct in China) and if the big fish can't be prosecuted, prosecute their associates.
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Biden didn't pardon his brother or sister.. :pondering:
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And because they are immune they have lost their right to remain silent. They can now be forced to testify about their crimes.
And here's how they will answer "I have no recollection of that conversation".
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Biden preemptively affirms that Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee are guilty of crimes.
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Trump's DOJ needs to find a rock-solid case that one of the recipients of these purported grants of immunity (I'd favor Fauci if the case can be made) and bring an indictments so the SCOTUS can rule that the President cannot use his pardons power to grant immunity from prosecution.
Seems to me, Fauci is still on the hot seat for crimes a state AG may prosecute him for, as only federal crimes are 'pardoned' by Joe.
The murder of many thousands of civilians is not a federal crime and should not be treated as such.

We need this desperately to be pursued in order that all the evidence is laid out before America so it will not be repeated again.
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These are not pardons, but (purported) grants of immunity from prosecution.  The Constitution does not give the President the authority to grant immunity from prosecution, only pardons.  In fact, granting immunity from prosecution is a violation of the Presidential oath of office, to see that that laws of the United States are faithfully executed.

Excellent legal argument, @The_Reader_David .  Nice job.

Another avenue would be to file a class-action lawsuit against Fauci (for which tens of thousands of people would have standing).  And when Fauci claims immunity via the pardon, that would be the legal door needed for challenging the pardon based on Biden's mental capacity.  Win that argument, and then all the pardons get tossed including Hunter's.
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In the context of January 6 defendants, the DOJ has argued that accepting a pardon from former President Donald Trump would be considered "a confession of guilt" for their crimes. This was highlighted in a case before U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols, where federal prosecutors stated that a pardon would not erase the conviction, and accepting one would necessitate a confession of Guilt.
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Not certain Byrd testified before the Select Committee so he may still be on the hook.

Here's what I dug up

What You Need To Know About The Officers Testifying Before Jan. 6 Committee
July 27, 2021 By:Alana Wise
From left: U.S. Capitol Police officer Aquilino Gonell, Washington Metropolitan Police Department officer Michael Fanone, Washington Metropolitan Police Department officer Daniel Hodges and U.S. Capitol Police officer Harry Dunn arrive to testify at the House select committee hearing on the Jan. 6 attack on Capitol Hill on Tuesday. / pool via AP

Four law enforcement officers who responded to the deadly Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol are delivering testimony Tuesday to the House select committee investigating the melee.

Their remarks will be the first heard in front of the new, Democratic-led panel.

The four officers are:

Harry Dunn and Aquilino Gonell of the U.S. Capitol Police;
and Michael Fanone and Daniel Hodges of the Washington, D.C., Metropolitan Police Department.

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Here's Biden's official order
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Excellent legal argument, @The_Reader_David .  Nice job.

Another avenue would be to file a class-action lawsuit against Fauci (for which tens of thousands of people would have standing).  And when Fauci claims immunity via the pardon, that would be the legal door needed for challenging the pardon based on Biden's mental capacity.  Win that argument, and then all the pardons get tossed including Hunter's.
Anarchy would ensue as that would open a much wider door well beyond just the pardon power, in challenging each and every decision made by Biden as President.

It is why no federal court ever accepted a challenge to the 2020 election.
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And when Fauci claims immunity via the pardon, that would be the legal door needed for challenging the pardon based on Biden's mental capacity.  Win that argument, and then all the pardons get tossed including Hunter's.

Now that's an interesting angle!

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Makes me wonder that, for the bureaucrats here that worked in the administration or military, of whether the President as Chief Executive can simply abort their pensions and other side benefits if he chose to?

Don't know if there exist limits on his power to do so.
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Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members
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President Joe Biden on Monday issued preemptive pardons to potential targets of the incoming Trump administration, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, retired Gen. Mark Milley and lawmakers who served on the House Jan. 6 Committee.

"Our nation relies on dedicated, selfless public servants every day. They are the lifeblood of our democracy," Biden said in a statement just hours before President-elect Donald Trump is sworn into office.
 
"Yet alarmingly, public servants have been subjected to ongoing threats and intimidation for faithfully discharging their duties," Biden added.

Trump in his 2024 campaign repeatedly vowed "retribution" on his political enemies, specifically singling out lawmakers like Liz Cheney who investigated the attack on the U.S. Capitol. Trump said Cheney and other committee members should be put in jail.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-preemptively-pardons-anthony-fauci-mark-milley-and-jan-6-committee-members/ar-AA1xw3V7?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=987b35042110409df332816ad5c672bd&ei=10
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Seems to me, Fauci is still on the hot seat for crimes a state AG may prosecute him for, as only federal crimes are 'pardoned' by Joe.
The murder of many thousands of civilians is not a federal crime and should not be treated as such.

We need this desperately to be pursued in order that all the evidence is laid out before America so it will not be repeated again.
Senator Rand Paul Vows to Continue Investigation on Madman Tony Fauci
If there was ever any doubt as to who bears responsibility for the COVID pandemic, Biden’s pardon of Fauci forever seals the deal.

As Chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee I will not rest until the entire truth of the coverup is exposed.

Fauci’s pardon will only serve as an accelerant to pierce the veil of deception.

Ignominious! Anthony Fauci will go down in history as the first government scientist to be preemptively pardoned for a crime.
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December, 2020. Jake Tapper asks President-elect Biden about the rumor that Trump may issue some preemptive pardons before leaving office.

Biden: You're not going to see me do that.

What a friggin' liar.
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IMO, this shows democrats see themselves as able to lie and cheat the American people, steal from them, ignore the Constitution and rule of law but should not be held accountable.  You see the same attitude in the Senate hearings where the ilk of Adam Schiff questions the integrity of nominees while he could well be the most corrupt member ever in the senate, and that's saying something. 9999hair out0000
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WOW!  She is essentially admitting that her husband committed perjury for Biden, yet is now being left out in the cold.  The mafia has turned against one of its own.
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Fauci's pardon extends back to January 1, 2014...what was he doing way back then that we don't know about?

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WOW!  She is essentially admitting that her husband committed perjury for Biden, yet is now being left out in the cold.  The mafia has turned against one of its own.

Vindman chose...poorly.

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Now that's an interesting angle!

Another legal strategy would be to indict Biden once he leaves office.  (influence peddling, possession of classified documents, tax evasion, etc.)  Biden's only defense would be mental competence.  And if he goes that route, then his pardons would become null and void.
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Fauci's pardon extends back to January 1, 2014...what was he doing way back then that we don't know about?

https://twitter.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1881370396970336551/photo/1

While there might be something else we don't know about, the reason for the date is something really important that's a matter of public record:  If you look up when the grant proposal from the EcoHealth Alliance entitled "UNDERSTANDING THE RISK OF BAT CORONAVIRUS EMERGENCE" was funded by Fauci's agency, the date on the grant is June 1, 2014.  That was the grant that paid for the development of COVID-19 at the Wuhan Institute for Virology, since gain-of-function research was illegal to conduct in the US.
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   I'm surprised he didn't pardon his brother, or did he?
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