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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #725 on: January 17, 2025, 06:24:23 am »
The fraudsters should spend the rest of their lives paddling up the river if they're caught and sentenced.  Speaking of such, I'd be checking groups like Just Stop Oil and any other green radical groups. :jail:
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #726 on: January 17, 2025, 06:27:35 am »

LAFD team tasked with preventing wildfires accused of corruption, laziness before blazes devastated city
Story by Jared Downing • 23h


The arm of the Los Angeles Fire Department in charge of preventing wildfires faced years of allegations of corruption, laziness, harassment and discrimination before the blazes that have devastated the city.

It’s just one of the black marks against the LAFD — which include allegations that a deputy chief was drunk while overseeing a 2021 wildfire in the Pacific Palisades, the very same area devastated by the most destructive blaze in LA history this month.

That firefighter was later cleared of wrongdoing by the department and given a $1.4 million payout.

LAFD’s Fire Prevention Bureau is in charge of inspecting buildings, clearing brush and other measures to stop blazes before they start.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lafd-team-tasked-with-preventing-wildfires-accused-of-corruption-laziness-before-blazes-devastated-city/ar-AA1xiWpg?ocid=widgetonlockscreen&cvid=ad43eb2525194c228e37a387f2cbd256&ei=109
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #727 on: January 17, 2025, 06:28:49 am »
I'd bet if anyone has the guts to investigate, they'll find the LA government totally infested with corruption. :pondering:
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #728 on: January 17, 2025, 06:52:02 am »
 
Congressman: CA blocked LADWP fire-hardening project to protect now-burned plant
Story by Kenneth Schrupp • 13h

(The Center Square) – Congressman Kevin Kiley has introduced a bill to Congress that would strip the California Coastal Commission of much of its powers, citing its recent blocking of a Los Angeles Department of Water and Power request to upgrade wooden power poles to protect a now-burned plant.
 
“This is why I'm introducing a bill to rein in the CA Coastal Commission,” said Kiley on X in response to a report on how the CCC blocked the LADWP upgrade and collected $2 million in fines for trampling Braunton milkvetch shrubs that live in fire-prone areas. “It stopped LA from replacing wooden power line poles in an elevated fire-risk area in order to save a few "Braunton milkvetch" plants, collecting $2 million in fines in the process.”

The report from the New York Post outlines how the LADWP project aimed to replace wooden power poles with fire-proof steel poles, widen fire-access lanes, and install power lines more resistant to wind and fire. The CCC blocked the project to protect a few thousand local examples of the shrub, saying LADWP did not receive proper permitting; the area has since burned to the ground in the ongoing Palisades Fire, meaning the shrubs are likely gone as well.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/congressman-ca-blocked-ladwp-fire-hardening-project-to-protect-now-burned-plant/ar-AA1xkICc?ocid=widgetonlockscreen&cvid=ad43eb2525194c228e37a387f2cbd256&ei=147
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #729 on: January 17, 2025, 09:09:22 am »
L.A. County Fire Chief Apologizes to Residents Who Lost Homes

Los Angeles County Fire Department Chief Anthony Marrone apologized Thursday evening to residents who had lost their homes in the Palisades Fire.

Marrone apologized at a town hall meeting at the Sinai Temple in Westwood, where displaced residents of the Pacific Palisades and Malibu had been invited to an informational meeting by fire officials. He said that he was sorry “because we weren’t able” to protect lives, homes, and businesses in the county.

The county chief added that he had “never been more proud” of the work by personnel to contain the fire.

The evening also included an appearance by controversial City of Los Angeles Fire Department Chief
Kristin Crowley, whom many have faulted for a late response to the fire.

Elsewhere, at the Los Angeles City Council, angry residents slammed Mayor Karen Bass, Chief Crowley, and members of the council for voting to reduce the fire department’s budget.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #730 on: January 17, 2025, 09:26:06 am »
 Top music acts announced for FireAid, a concert to support L.A. wildfire victims
by Marc Sternfield and Christine Samra - 01/17/25 8:34 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (KTLA) – The biggest names in pop, rock and country are coming together to raise funds for victims of the Palisades and Eaton wildfires and assist with the recovery.

A benefit concert, FireAid, will take place on Jan. 30 on two stages, one at Intuit Dome and the other at The Kia Forum, organizers announced on Thursday.

More than 15 music acts have been announced so far, including Billie Eilish and Finneas, Earth, Wind & Fire, Gracie Abrams, Green Day, Gwen Stefani, Jelly Roll, Joni Mitchell, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Lil Baby, P!nk, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rod Stewart, Sting, Stephen Stills, Stevie Nicks, Tate McRae, and performing together for the first time, Dave Matthews and John Mayer.

Additional artists will be announced in the coming days.



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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #731 on: January 17, 2025, 10:33:15 am »
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at FireAid?

Now that is some ironing right there!
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #732 on: January 17, 2025, 10:49:01 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on January 17, 2025, 09:26:06 am
Top music acts announced for FireAid, a concert to support L.A. wildfire victims
by Marc Sternfield and Christine Samra - 01/17/25 8:34 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (KTLA) – The biggest names in pop, rock and country are coming together to raise funds for victims of the Palisades and Eaton wildfires and assist with the recovery.

A benefit concert, FireAid, will take place on Jan. 30 on two stages, one at Intuit Dome and the other at The Kia Forum, organizers announced on Thursday.

More than 15 music acts have been announced so far, including Billie Eilish and Finneas, Earth, Wind & Fire, Gracie Abrams, Green Day, Gwen Stefani, Jelly Roll, Joni Mitchell, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Lil Baby, P!nk, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rod Stewart, Sting, Stephen Stills, Stevie Nicks, Tate McRae, and performing together for the first time, Dave Matthews and John Mayer.

Additional artists will be announced in the coming days.



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But no Helene Aid?  :shrug:
Eff these "artists". All of them but one are not in my music catalog anyway.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #733 on: January 17, 2025, 11:00:24 am »
Wingnut -

Yes, considering the reason for this concert, a group named Earth, Wind, and Fire is an ironic inclusion!
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #734 on: January 17, 2025, 11:22:45 am »
We are the world
Our houses burned down
The mayor took away the funds
to fight the fires

Now we can't rebuild
Because of Newsom's regs
We're bound to move away next week
To Florida or Texas
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #735 on: January 17, 2025, 11:38:34 am »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on January 16, 2025, 06:15:35 pm
Even worse, from China, where this picture was taken
Oh, China where they build empty cities and the buildings fall over?
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #736 on: January 17, 2025, 11:39:57 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on January 16, 2025, 03:35:45 am
We'll probably never know the real truth as to how deep this rabbit hole goes.

Told a relative the same thing a few days back. Whatever this shadowy network is, it needs terminated with prejudice.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #737 on: January 17, 2025, 01:21:30 pm »
Joni Mitchell is still around? Hopefully time and aging have been kind to her voice. (Frank Sinatra's and Rosemary Clooney's voices got pretty rough in their last years)
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #738 on: January 17, 2025, 01:27:20 pm »
Quote from: DB on January 16, 2025, 08:46:12 pm
Someone who has owned a home there for 20 years is paying much reduced property taxes due to prop 13 which limits the tax increase to 2% maximum per year.

When they rebuild, if they rebuild, the tax assessment will be at current market value. Many people probably can't afford the property taxes under that situation.

The government sticks knives in you from all directions.
Seems this is a big incentive to start some fires to get the tax base up exponentially?
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #739 on: January 17, 2025, 02:54:59 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on January 17, 2025, 01:21:30 pm
Joni Mitchell is still around? Hopefully time and aging have been kind to her voice. (Frank Sinatra's and Rosemary Clooney's voices got pretty rough in their last years)
Last I saw, she had to sit in a chair while singing, and her voice wasn't particularly strong. You're right about Frank - he was barely on-key when he was young, and it got really bad in his old age.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #740 on: January 17, 2025, 03:11:44 pm »
LA Mayor Karen Bass’ office hit with scandals over hush money, bribes and accusations of ‘legalized corruption’
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #741 on: January 17, 2025, 05:04:43 pm »
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Governor Newsom extends state property tax deadlines for LA firestorm communities until April 2026

What you need to know: Governor Newsom has suspended penalties and interest on late property tax payments for a year, effectively extending the state property tax deadline, for those living in communities impacted by the Los Angeles firestorms.

LOS ANGELES — Governor Gavin Newsom today, as part of continued support for the Los Angeles communities impacted by the recent firestorms, issued an executive order to suspend penalties, costs, and any interest accrued on late property tax payments until April 10, 2026, for properties in areas affected by the firestorm. This has the effect of extending the deadline for residents in those areas.

“California is here for the survivors who have been impacted by the fire. Whether streamlining housing or helping to relieve a financial or administrative hardship, we are doing all we can to ensure these communities get the help they need.”

Governor Gavin Newsom
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #742 on: January 17, 2025, 05:10:59 pm »
State Farm makes major insurance policy U-turn after devastating LA fires... but it will not benefit everyone

    READ MORE: LA wildfire victims sent warning over insurance company tricks

By TILLY ARMSTRONG DEPUTY CONSUMER EDITOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

Published: 11:26 EST, 17 January 2025 | Updated: 15:32 EST, 17 January 2025

State Farm will offer insurance renewals to Los Angeles residents it had planned to drop.

In a major U-turn, the company said it would renew policies in the badly-hit Pacific Palisades neighborhood, alongside thousands more in Los Angeles county.

However, the offer does not apply to policies that had already lapsed when the deadly fires started on January 7.

State Farm said in March that it would stop offering insurance to 72,000 homes across California, blaming the risk of natural disasters and the impact of inflation.

The Department of Insurance said that among the policies that the company had targeted for nonrenewal, more than 7,600 were in the Palisades fire zone.

State Farm - the leading home insurer in California - said around two-thirds of the policies it had planned to cancel were still active when the fires began.

Customers can now renew these if they wish - rather than hunt for a new and likely costlier replacement provider.

Although the decision to cut policies was made last year, it faced renewed scrutiny when the news resurfaced as the wildfires wreaked havoc across LA. The fires have damaged or destroyed more than 12,000 structures and claimed over two dozen lives.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #743 on: January 18, 2025, 09:37:11 am »
US News
Los Angeles water chief Janisse Quinones given police security detail amid ‘threats’ against her, employees
 By Landon Mion, Matt Finn, Fox News   
Published Jan. 18, 2025, 6:40 a.m. ET


The Los Angeles water chief has been given a police security detail amid “threats” against her and water employees, as wildfires swept through Southern California, two Los Angeles police sources told Fox News.

Los Angeles Department of Water and Power’s CEO Janisse Quinones now has a 24/7 LAPD detail in response to the threats, the sources said.

One LAPD source cited the recent shooting in New York of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

Quinones reportedly makes $750,000 per year.

She is facing public criticism over Los Angeles’ fire preparedness and water distribution amid the wildfires in the area.

“We can confirm that threats have been made against our employees, including incidents in the field … that occurred at a DWP facility downtown Tuesday evening,” the Department of Water and Power told Fox News.

“We take every threat and incident seriously and report them immediately to law enforcement,” the department continued. “We do not discuss security measures in place at our facilities in order to protect our employees.”

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #744 on: January 18, 2025, 10:25:01 am »
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Strange Gavin Newsom hasn’t mentioned these clean burning green fires bellowing plumes of lithium all over the neighboring agricultural
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #745 on: January 18, 2025, 11:56:36 am »
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Los Angeles is grappling with one of the costliest natural disasters in American history as fires continue to rage across the county. Yet, beneath the flames lies a tale of bureaucratic mismanagement, budget cuts, and misplaced priorities that whistleblowers from the Los Angeles Fire Department (LAFD) claim have exacerbated the crisis.



These fires are likely to be the costliest natural disaster in American history.

And here's what really happened!


https://defiantamerica.com/lafd-whistleblowers-expose-mismanagement-how-las-fires-became-uncontrollable/
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« Reply #746 on: January 18, 2025, 12:03:00 pm »
If the clickbait site article does not acknowledge that the fundamental problem was State and Federal refusal to clear brush in Topanga Canyon State Park and Angeles National forest, the article is worthless. As for fire resource manglement, while real, those resources would have been overwhelmed by the days-long near-hurricane-force-wind-driven wildfires.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #747 on: January 18, 2025, 02:07:50 pm »
So It Begins: California Policies Add to Homeowners Misery
By M Dowling -January 18, 20250

 
California is a disaster because its policies made the ongoing fires into a catastrophe. California will also make it difficult for people to recover. The following is a case in point that comedian Adam Corolla posted.

A Wildfire Victim:
I desperately want to get back into my home and begin the clean-up process to start putting my life back together.

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Los Angeles County: We’re gonna have to survey, inspect, approve, authorize & scrutinize that debris before starting to put your life back together

They can’t do a thing because California policies, which caused fires to become disasters, demand that they inspect first? More than 10,000 structures burned down. This process will take forever. Why can’t homeowners pay for inspections?

https://www.independentsentinel.com/so-it-begins-california-policies-add-to-homeowners-misery/
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #748 on: January 18, 2025, 02:48:26 pm »
They are allowing looters more time to redistribute the wealth before they allow property owners to be back on their property.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #749 on: January 18, 2025, 02:54:20 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on January 18, 2025, 12:03:00 pm
If the clickbait site article does not acknowledge that the fundamental problem was State and Federal refusal to clear brush in Topanga Canyon State Park and Angeles National forest, the article is worthless. As for fire resource manglement, while real, those resources would have been overwhelmed by the days-long near-hurricane-force-wind-driven wildfires.

They knew the winds were coming. They knew what direction the winds would be blowing. They knew where the highest risk areas were.

They could have prepositioned resources and they could have put firefighters on call to be ready at a moments notice.

The fire started on a hiking trail and was report immediately after it started. Had it been contained at that time it would have been stoppable. The report I read said it took them 45 minutes to respond. And the rest is history.
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