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 Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
by Mychael Schnell and Emily Brooks - 12/19/24 3:40 PM ET

House Republicans have reached an agreement on a plan B to avert a government shutdown ahead of Friday’s deadline and plan to vote on Thursday, lawmakers announced.

The plan, two sources told The Hill, includes a three-month continuing resolution and a two-year suspension of the debt ceiling, after President-elect Trump called on lawmakers to lift the borrowing limit on Wednesday.

The legislation would also include roughly $100 billion in disaster relief and about $10 billion for farmer economic assistance, the sources said, in line with the amounts appropriated in the congressional agreement earlier this week.

In a break from that package, however, language that would provide lawmakers with a pay raise was removed. The legislation also will not contain the E15 ethanol provision.

The agreement also includes a one-year extension of the 2018 farm bill and extensions for some health programs — but will not include proposed changes dealing with how pharmacy benefit managers operate, sources told The Hill.

One source said the bill will be title the American Relief Act.

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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2024, 04:34:38 pm »
The plan, two sources told The Hill, includes a three-month continuing resolution and a two-year suspension of the debt ceiling, after President-elect Trump called on lawmakers to lift the borrowing limit on Wednesday.

The legislation would also include roughly $100 billion in disaster relief and about $10 billion for farmer economic assistance, the sources said, in line with the amounts appropriated in the congressional agreement earlier this week.

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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2024, 04:38:34 pm »
House Republicans have reached an agreement .  .  .

Who in the hell are they reaching an agreement with?  Republicans control the House.  They don't need agreement from anyone.  Hold FEMA's feet to the fire and make them honor their previous agreement on disaster relief.  And if they misappropriated funds, then they need to be prosecuted.  They are criminals.  Don't cover for them by bailing them out with another $100 billion of pure inflationary money.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2024, 04:47:55 pm »
Where's the fiscal conservatism?  How much smaller is the "new" continuing resolution compared to the "original"?

Lifting the debt ceiling for 2 years give Trump and the GOP 2 years to spend without limit ... or until rates go up, people stop buying T-Notes and T-Bonds, the Dollar collapses, or the economy implodes.

The House has given up trying to reduce spending.

This also sets a precedent for Dems to suspend Debt Ceiling when they're in power next.
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2024, 05:11:15 pm »
Sounds to me like raising the debt ceiling is like my credit card company raising my credit limit.

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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2024, 05:18:19 pm »
Who in the hell are they reaching an agreement with?  Republicans control the House.  They don't need agreement from anyone.  Hold FEMA's feet to the fire and make them honor their previous agreement on disaster relief.  And if they misappropriated funds, then they need to be prosecuted.  They are criminals.  Don't cover for them by bailing them out with another $100 billion of pure inflationary money.

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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2024, 05:19:34 pm »
Don't give FEMA any more money until Mayorkas is gone ... and hopefully deported.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2024, 05:34:03 pm »
They need Dems..Chip Roy isn't voting for it....I am sure there are others
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2024, 05:56:07 pm »
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The bad spending package just got worse, and it now includes an inexcusable unlimited 2-year debt ceiling increase with no spending cuts!!!
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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2024, 06:28:08 pm »
A plain CR will add $500 billion to our debt over the next three months.  This new bill adds over $600 billion.
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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2024, 06:29:41 pm »
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The bad spending package just got worse, and it now includes an inexcusable unlimited 2-year debt ceiling increase with no spending cuts!!!

Bob Good is spot on.  Too bad that Trump got him primaried.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2024, 06:43:56 pm »
The vote is on now, and failing.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2024, 06:55:47 pm »
Dems say ‘hell no’ to GOP plan B on government funding, debt ceiling

House Democrats are rallying in overwhelming opposition to the Republicans’ second stab at a government funding bill, vowing to sink it on the House floor and force GOP leaders back to the table to negotiate a bipartisan compromise.

Huddling behind closed doors in the Capitol basement, party leaders detailed their opposition to the bill and urged their troops to join them in voting against it.

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) foreshadowed that message going in, saying the GOP bill is “laughable.”

If there were any questions about the message resonating, they were dispelled by the loud chants of “hell no” that could be heard deep into the hallway outside the meeting room.

“You heard the two-word position,” Rep. Jared Huffman (D-Calif.) said afterward.

“We’re all there,” echoed Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.).

The vote, which is expected shortly after 6 p.m. on Thursday, is governed by a fast-track procedure known as the suspension calendar, which requires two-thirds of the House chamber to pass the bill. The Democrats’ opposition means GOP leaders will fall far short of that bar, forcing Republicans either to attempt to move the bill through the Rules Committee, where hard-line conservatives could sink it, or abandon the bill in favor of a plan C.

President-elect Trump brought Congress to a standstill this week when he came out against the previous bipartisan funding plan that both sides had agreed to, while also making a last-minute demand for Republicans to put in language tackling the nation’s borrowing ceiling.

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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2024, 06:57:24 pm »
The vote is on now, and failing.

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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2024, 07:00:10 pm »
Yep...voted down..

Could this defeat spell the end of Trump's nascent presidency?

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Why are a bunch of RINOs insisting on giving Chuck Schumer a ton of leverage over Trump?

Are they trying to stifle the MAGA agenda?
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2024, 07:32:25 pm »
Could this defeat spell the end of Trump's nascent presidency?

I doubt that.
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Schumer celebrates House GOP bill failure: 'Time to go back to the bipartisan agreement'

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., celebrated the failure of a new House Republican crafted stopgap spending bill on Thursday, telling reporters the initial short-term spending bill squashed by billionaire Elon Musk and President-elect Trump should be revived.

"It's a good thing the bill failed in the House," he said after exiting the Senate chamber. "And now it's time to go back to the bipartisan agreement we came to."

The first stopgap spending bill that was released this week was quickly shot down by Musk and others for spending too much and including Democrat priorities. Trump ultimately came out against it, putting the proverbial final nail in the coffin.

On Thursday afternoon, House Republicans came out with a new version, which was substantially shorter and included both disaster aid and a suspension of the debt ceiling for two years, as Trump had requested.

But the measure failed in the House, with some Republicans refusing to back it and Democrats uniting against it, many unhappy with Musk's apparent influence.

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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2024, 08:32:43 pm »
Good grief. this ain't rocket surgery.  Put up a straight CR that the Dens voted for four months ago, and then dare them to vote it down.
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Could this defeat spell the end of Trump's nascent presidency?

Yes

Getting the credit limit extended for 2 years would have given Trump time to get the Tax cut package passed and for the economy to expand. The most onerous items were taken out. Now we will see the same thing happen with DOGE recommendations, a small group of Pubs will vote against any change because it isn't enough.

I think Trump will get the wall finished and some deportations done and that will be it. The debt limit increase battle will gut any real tax reform that could have freed up economic growth.
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2024, 09:14:27 pm »
Yes

Getting the credit limit extended for 2 years would have given Trump time to get the Tax cut package passed and for the economy to expand. The most onerous items were taken out. Now we will see the same thing happen with DOGE recommendations, a small group of Pubs will vote against any change because it isn't enough.

I think Trump will get the wall finished and some deportations done and that will be it. The debt limit increase battle will gut any real tax reform that could have freed up economic growth.

We'll see what happens. He hasn't even taken office yet and people around the globe are taking notice.  A billionaire in Japan just pledged to invest $100B in the U.S.

He will also have a full majority.  Sure he's going to have some battles, but I think he'll prevail. Keep in mind he won by a landslide; the people have spoken.

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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2024, 09:29:10 pm »
Yes

Getting the credit limit extended for 2 years would have given Trump time to get the Tax cut package passed and for the economy to expand.

Uh, no.  A provision allowing Congress to amass unlimited debt has absolutely NOTHING to do with a tax cut bill, specifically one that simply continues tax rates at current levels.  And neither does a provision that piles an additional $100 billion of new debt on top of it.

Congress needs to be cut off now.  No more.
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2024, 09:38:33 pm »
The ONLY tool that Conservatives have on controlling spending is the debt ceiling.  And Trump is cutting their legs out from under them right out of the gate.

We were all mad as hell when Paul Ryan did this.  We were mad as hell when Pelosi did it.  We were mad as hell when McCarthy did it.  And now we have Trump jumping in bed again with the Swamp cheering it on.

America is finished.  Trump hasn't learned a damn thing.
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