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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2024, 04:54:35 pm »
New bill is 118 pages. I think it should've immediately uploaded to the internet so that anyone who cares to can read it.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #51 on: December 20, 2024, 04:55:54 pm »
   Before this $hit evolved into cryons on FOX, we had this monstrosity. Trump got involved and we get the same ol $hitty bill in spite of all the Dramatics.


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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2024, 04:58:21 pm »
New bill is 118 pages. I think it should've immediately uploaded to the internet so that anyone who cares to can read it.

And let the people see the shenanigans they're trying to pull?  Not a chance.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2024, 05:01:00 pm »
   Before this $hit evolved into cryons on FOX, we had this monstrosity. Trump got involved and we get the same ol $hitty bill in spite of all the Dramatics.

Suspension of the debt ceiling makes this bill far worse.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2024, 05:01:28 pm »
  I thought when McCarthy was deposed one of the things was in the negotiations was a 72 hours to read the bill.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2024, 05:03:08 pm »
  I thought when McCarthy was deposed one of the things was in the negotiations was a 72 hours to read the bill.

It was.  But rules can be suspended at the drop of a hat.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2024, 05:03:27 pm »
Johnson drops Trump’s debt limit demand in last-ditch effort to avoid shutdown
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December 20, 2024 2:57 pm
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House Republicans are planning to move forward with a last-ditch effort to avoid a government shutdown by voting on Friday afternoon to extend current government funding levels until mid-March, dropping a demand from President-elect Donald Trump to attach a debt limit increase to the spending package.

The House will vote on a clean continuing resolution to maintain current spending levels until March 14 combined with $110.4 billion in disaster aid and economic assistance for farmers, according to lawmakers familiar with the plans. The spending package is the same bill that was shot down by the House on Thursday but excludes the debt limit provision opposed by GOP deficit hawks.

The package will come to the floor under suspension of rules, meaning it will require a two-thirds majority to pass. As a result, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) will need to rely on a significant number of Democrats to help push it across the finish line — something Democratic leaders have said they will not do.

If that vote fails, GOP leaders could move forward with another proposal to advance separate single-subject bills, dividing the CR proposal into three components: the clean CR, disaster aid standalone, and an economic package for farmers.

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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #57 on: December 20, 2024, 05:12:32 pm »
...and the Turtle speaks ....

Mitch McConnell calls potential government shutdown 'foolish': 'Pay a political price

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., called allowing a partial government shutdown to happen would be "foolish" in remarks on the chamber floor on Friday afternoon.

"I don't care to count how many times I've reminded our colleagues and our House counterparts how horrible it is to shut the government down," he said. "And how foolish it is to bet your own side won't take the blame for it."

He noted that "Recent history doesn't leave a whole lot of room for interpretation on that one. When you try to use normal government function as a bargaining chip, you pay a political price."

McConnell explained the divided nature of the U.S. government's components, and added that a Senate with one party capable of overcoming a legislative filibuster has not existed in a long time.

"You have a choice," he said. "Do nothing or try to find things you can agree on and do them together."

The outgoing Republican Senate leader explained, "Getting things done almost inevitably requires dealing with a lot of people who disagree."

His remarks came as Republicans in the House had yet to pass a stopgap spending bill to fund the government, with only hours until it will go into a partial shutdown.................

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-backed-spending-bill-voted-down-house-with-government-shutdown-looming


I couldn't help but notice his lip drooping on one side; it appears that he's had a recent stroke.

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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #58 on: December 20, 2024, 05:17:32 pm »
The House will vote on a clean continuing resolution to maintain current spending levels until March 14 .  .  .

So far, so good.


.  .  .  combined with $110.4 billion in disaster aid and economic assistance for farmers

HELL NO !!!
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #59 on: December 20, 2024, 05:48:22 pm »
voting...22 Repubs so far are No
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #60 on: December 20, 2024, 05:51:45 pm »
Looks like it will pass..26 no Repubs
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2024, 05:59:52 pm »
Another $100 billion in 'disaster relief' [sic] to hand out to illegals.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2024, 06:19:36 pm »
   
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2024, 06:30:30 pm »
The House passed a stopgap spending bill to extend government funding into early next year, completing the first step to avoid a shutdown just hours before the deadline.

Lawmakers voted 366-34 to advance the package, overcoming the two-thirds majority needed to clear the lower chamber. The legislation, which did not include President-elect Donald Trump’s demand to attach a debt limit increase, will now head to the Democratic-led Senate for consideration.

The Senate must pass and send the legislation to President Joe Biden’s desk before the midnight deadline on Friday. Otherwise, the government is scheduled to enter a temporary shutdown and federal funding will lapse until the bill is signed.

The latest funding package punts the funding deadline until March 14 and provides an additional $110.4 billion in disaster aid and economic assistance for farmers. It also includes an extension of programs under the annual Farm Bill until the end of September 2025, among other provisions.

The bill is similar to the first continuing resolution package that was rejected on Thursday, but it does not include the debt limit provision that was opposed by GOP deficit hawks and was largely responsible for the first failed vote.

The new measure was fast-tracked to the floor on Friday under suspension of rules, meaning it required a significant number of Democrats to pass the House. Despite threatening for days to withhold support on any spending package other than the original bipartisan agreement, 196 Democrats crossed party lines to help push the bill across the finish line. Thirty-four Republicans voted against the legislation.

It’s not clear if a deal was made between House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) and Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) to secure the Democratic support needed. However, Jeffries did tell reporters heading into a closed-door meeting Friday evening that he had spoken with Johnson “multiple times” leading up to Friday’s vote.

Jeffries also struck a more amenable tone toward the latest iteration of the CR, saying, “What needed to come out of the bill has come out of the bill.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/3267556/house-passes-stopgap-spending-deal-without-trump-debt-limit-shutdown-deadline/
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2024, 06:31:57 pm »
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🚨 BREAKING:  The MININBUS continuing resolution (CR) bill includes "PORK" provisions - per Grok

Funding for a new NFL Stadium in Washington, D.C.: The bill reportedly allocates $8 billion for this purpose.

Disaster Aid: While disaster relief is generally seen as necessary, the amount included ($110.4 billion) has been criticized for being excessive.

Reauthorization of the Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Act: Extending this act for 5 years is included.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2024, 06:45:47 pm »
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🚨 The following 34 Republicans voted AGAINST the latest House spending deal, which passed as a result of 170 Republicans and 196 Democrats voting in favor.

Banks
Biggs
Bishop
Boebert
Brecheen
Burchett
Burlison
Cloud
Clyde
Crane
Curtis
DesJarlais
Fulcher
Gonzales
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Gooden
Grothman
Harris
Harshbarger
Hunt
Lesko
Lopez
Mace
Massie
McCormick
Mills
Mooney
Ogles
Perry
Rosendale
Roy
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Tiffany
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #66 on: December 20, 2024, 06:47:37 pm »
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Got this from someone who understand the CR passage better than I do.  I’m relieved it was passed with Trump’s approval. 👇🏻👇🏻

Some key points: The president secured a massive legislative victory tonight.

Through blocking the swamp cr, he got a clean one, with no Democrat pork or member pay raise, including massive economic and disaster aid for farmers and states affected by the hurricanes.

He cut the bill from 1500 pages to 120.

He eliminated the J6 Committee protection provision and cut out a state department agency associated with censorship.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #69 on: December 20, 2024, 07:18:40 pm »
The previous bill would have been much better to send to the Senate.

The Establishment Loyalists will be happy to vote for this CR. The debt ceiling is not dealt with and the State Dept. censorship agency remains in place. The debt ceiling will be the Establishment Loyalists tool to stop Trump's tax cuts and to cripple the economy. The Pubs blew it once again. It won't be a surprise when they lose the House in 2026. They don't know how to fight to win.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #70 on: December 20, 2024, 07:36:30 pm »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2024, 09:11:26 pm »


Exactly. Garbage is still garbage.

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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #72 on: December 20, 2024, 09:26:42 pm »
It was nice to see my congressman voted against it.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #73 on: December 20, 2024, 09:36:03 pm »
The only difference between Trump and Biden here is that Biden wasn't out tweeting his support for jacking up the deficit by 22% for the next three months.
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Re: Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms
« Reply #74 on: December 20, 2024, 10:05:13 pm »
The battle lines are drawn.  On one side, you have Democrats, House GOP leadership, and the rest of the Swamp.  On the other, you have Conservative Republicans who want to starve the Swamp of funding and who are honoring the commitments made during the election.   Conservatives who refuse to surrender to Democrats before the fight has even begun.

This  pointing-up  is sophomoric, lacking even a rudimentary understanding that math matters.  Thirty-four members of the Freedom Caucus will never be the majority vote in the House of Representatives; obstructionist vote, yes, majority, no.





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