Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms

[bigheadfred]

New bill is 118 pages. I think it should've immediately uploaded to the internet so that anyone who cares to can read it.

[corbe]

   Before this $hit evolved into cryons on FOX, we had this monstrosity. Trump got involved and we get the same ol $hitty bill in spite of all the Dramatics.


   I still think Chip Roy is a Great Guy.

[Hoodat]

New bill is 118 pages. I think it should've immediately uploaded to the internet so that anyone who cares to can read it.

And let the people see the shenanigans they're trying to pull?  Not a chance.

[Hoodat]

   Before this $hit evolved into cryons on FOX, we had this monstrosity. Trump got involved and we get the same ol $hitty bill in spite of all the Dramatics.

Suspension of the debt ceiling makes this bill far worse.

[corbe]

  I thought when McCarthy was deposed one of the things was in the negotiations was a 72 hours to read the bill.

[Hoodat]

  I thought when McCarthy was deposed one of the things was in the negotiations was a 72 hours to read the bill.

It was.  But rules can be suspended at the drop of a hat.

[mystery-ak]

Johnson drops Trump’s debt limit demand in last-ditch effort to avoid shutdown
By
Cami Mondeaux
December 20, 2024 2:57 pm
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House Republicans are planning to move forward with a last-ditch effort to avoid a government shutdown by voting on Friday afternoon to extend current government funding levels until mid-March, dropping a demand from President-elect Donald Trump to attach a debt limit increase to the spending package.

The House will vote on a clean continuing resolution to maintain current spending levels until March 14 combined with $110.4 billion in disaster aid and economic assistance for farmers, according to lawmakers familiar with the plans. The spending package is the same bill that was shot down by the House on Thursday but excludes the debt limit provision opposed by GOP deficit hawks.

The package will come to the floor under suspension of rules, meaning it will require a two-thirds majority to pass. As a result, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) will need to rely on a significant number of Democrats to help push it across the finish line — something Democratic leaders have said they will not do.

If that vote fails, GOP leaders could move forward with another proposal to advance separate single-subject bills, dividing the CR proposal into three components: the clean CR, disaster aid standalone, and an economic package for farmers.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/3266734/johnson-rallies-house-gop-third-shot-stop-shutdown/

[libertybele]

...and the Turtle speaks ....

Mitch McConnell calls potential government shutdown 'foolish': 'Pay a political price

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., called allowing a partial government shutdown to happen would be "foolish" in remarks on the chamber floor on Friday afternoon.

"I don't care to count how many times I've reminded our colleagues and our House counterparts how horrible it is to shut the government down," he said. "And how foolish it is to bet your own side won't take the blame for it."

He noted that "Recent history doesn't leave a whole lot of room for interpretation on that one. When you try to use normal government function as a bargaining chip, you pay a political price."

McConnell explained the divided nature of the U.S. government's components, and added that a Senate with one party capable of overcoming a legislative filibuster has not existed in a long time.

"You have a choice," he said. "Do nothing or try to find things you can agree on and do them together."

The outgoing Republican Senate leader explained, "Getting things done almost inevitably requires dealing with a lot of people who disagree."

His remarks came as Republicans in the House had yet to pass a stopgap spending bill to fund the government, with only hours until it will go into a partial shutdown.................

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-backed-spending-bill-voted-down-house-with-government-shutdown-looming


I couldn't help but notice his lip drooping on one side; it appears that he's had a recent stroke.

[Hoodat]

The House will vote on a clean continuing resolution to maintain current spending levels until March 14 .  .  .

So far, so good.

.  .  .  combined with $110.4 billion in disaster aid and economic assistance for farmers

HELL NO !!!

[mystery-ak]

voting...22 Repubs so far are No

[mystery-ak]

Looks like it will pass..26 no Repubs

[Hoodat]

Another $100 billion in 'disaster relief' [sic] to hand out to illegals.

[corbe]

   

[mystery-ak]

The House passed a stopgap spending bill to extend government funding into early next year, completing the first step to avoid a shutdown just hours before the deadline.

Lawmakers voted 366-34 to advance the package, overcoming the two-thirds majority needed to clear the lower chamber. The legislation, which did not include President-elect Donald Trump’s demand to attach a debt limit increase, will now head to the Democratic-led Senate for consideration.

The Senate must pass and send the legislation to President Joe Biden’s desk before the midnight deadline on Friday. Otherwise, the government is scheduled to enter a temporary shutdown and federal funding will lapse until the bill is signed.

The latest funding package punts the funding deadline until March 14 and provides an additional $110.4 billion in disaster aid and economic assistance for farmers. It also includes an extension of programs under the annual Farm Bill until the end of September 2025, among other provisions.

The bill is similar to the first continuing resolution package that was rejected on Thursday, but it does not include the debt limit provision that was opposed by GOP deficit hawks and was largely responsible for the first failed vote.

The new measure was fast-tracked to the floor on Friday under suspension of rules, meaning it required a significant number of Democrats to pass the House. Despite threatening for days to withhold support on any spending package other than the original bipartisan agreement, 196 Democrats crossed party lines to help push the bill across the finish line. Thirty-four Republicans voted against the legislation.

It’s not clear if a deal was made between House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) and Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) to secure the Democratic support needed. However, Jeffries did tell reporters heading into a closed-door meeting Friday evening that he had spoken with Johnson “multiple times” leading up to Friday’s vote.

Jeffries also struck a more amenable tone toward the latest iteration of the CR, saying, “What needed to come out of the bill has come out of the bill.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/3267556/house-passes-stopgap-spending-deal-without-trump-debt-limit-shutdown-deadline/

[mountaineer]

Publius
@OcrazioCornPop
🚨 BREAKING:  The MININBUS continuing resolution (CR) bill includes "PORK" provisions - per Grok

Funding for a new NFL Stadium in Washington, D.C.: The bill reportedly allocates $8 billion for this purpose.

Disaster Aid: While disaster relief is generally seen as necessary, the amount included ($110.4 billion) has been criticized for being excessive.

Reauthorization of the Pandemic and All-Hazards Preparedness Act: Extending this act for 5 years is included.
6:25 PM · Dec 20, 2024

[mystery-ak]

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Daily Caller
@DailyCaller
🚨 The following 34 Republicans voted AGAINST the latest House spending deal, which passed as a result of 170 Republicans and 196 Democrats voting in favor.

Banks
Biggs
Bishop
Boebert
Brecheen
Burchett
Burlison
Cloud
Clyde
Crane
Curtis
DesJarlais
Fulcher
Gonzales
Good
Gooden
Grothman
Harris
Harshbarger
Hunt
Lesko
Lopez
Mace
Massie
McCormick
Mills
Mooney
Ogles
Perry
Rosendale
Roy
Self
Tiffany
Van Duyne
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[mystery-ak]

Juanita Broaddrick
@atensnut
Got this from someone who understand the CR passage better than I do.  I’m relieved it was passed with Trump’s approval. 👇🏻👇🏻

Some key points: The president secured a massive legislative victory tonight.

Through blocking the swamp cr, he got a clean one, with no Democrat pork or member pay raise, including massive economic and disaster aid for farmers and states affected by the hurricanes.

He cut the bill from 1500 pages to 120.

He eliminated the J6 Committee protection provision and cut out a state department agency associated with censorship.
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[Bigun]

   

SOSDD

[mystery-ak]

[bilo]

The previous bill would have been much better to send to the Senate.

The Establishment Loyalists will be happy to vote for this CR. The debt ceiling is not dealt with and the State Dept. censorship agency remains in place. The debt ceiling will be the Establishment Loyalists tool to stop Trump's tax cuts and to cripple the economy. The Pubs blew it once again. It won't be a surprise when they lose the House in 2026. They don't know how to fight to win.

[Bigun]

[libertybele]

Exactly. Garbage is still garbage.

[mountaineer]

It was nice to see my congressman voted against it.

[Hoodat]

The only difference between Trump and Biden here is that Biden wasn't out tweeting his support for jacking up the deficit by 22% for the next three months.

[Right_in_Virginia]

The battle lines are drawn.  On one side, you have Democrats, House GOP leadership, and the rest of the Swamp.  On the other, you have Conservative Republicans who want to starve the Swamp of funding and who are honoring the commitments made during the election.   Conservatives who refuse to surrender to Democrats before the fight has even begun.

This    is sophomoric, lacking even a rudimentary understanding that math matters.  Thirty-four members of the Freedom Caucus will never be the majority vote in the House of Representatives; obstructionist vote, yes, majority, no.

[Right_in_Virginia]

It was nice to see my congressman voted against it.

Meaningless.  It changed nothing and he forfeited a chance to pocket a "you owe me one" for a future negotiation.

[deb]

It was nice to see my congressman voted against it.

Must be nice to have a congress-critter who has both a spine and a conscience.
Our state elects swamp creatures. 

[Hoodat]

Meaningless.  It changed nothing and he forfeited a chance to pocket a "you owe me one" for a future negotiation.

Spoken like a true Swamp rat.

[Hoodat]

It was nice to see my congressman voted against it.

My former Congressman's name is also on that list.  My current one's name is not.  It sucks to seem him vote with Democrats on more spending.

[Hoodat]

This    is sophomoric, lacking even a rudimentary understanding that math matters.  Thirty-four members of the Freedom Caucus will never be the majority vote in the House of Representatives; obstructionist vote, yes, majority, no.

Not sure what 'math" has to do with the fact that thirty-four Freedom Caucus members decided to vote against the Swamp and the Democrats while you vociferously support them.  Another $110 billion added to the national debt.  Another $110 billion in handouts to illegals.

[Hoodat]

More of this.  $110 billion more of this.

https://twitter.com/jacobkschneider/status/1870162338470338700

[mountaineer]

Having principles and sticking to them is not meaningless.

[Right_in_Virginia]

When one continues to change nothing, "sticking to principles" is, indeed, meaningless. Achieving results in the political arena demands more.

Without  purposeful compromise, strategic thinking and hard work, this "sticking" is merely tiresome virtue signaling.  We no longer have time for this indulgence. 

[Bigun]

When one continues to change nothing, "sticking to principles" is, indeed, meaningless. Achieving results in the political arena demands more.

Without  purposeful compromise, strategic thinking and hard work, this "sticking" is merely tiresome virtue signaling.  We no longer have time for this indulgence.

Can you please explain to this good ole boy from Texas how continually voting FOR that which you despise is ever going to change anything? I'm having trouble grasping that concept. @Right_in_Virginia

[Hoodat]

When one continues to change nothing, "sticking to principles" is, indeed, meaningless.

When one continues to give the Democrats everything they want while at the same time waving a Trump flag,it changes nothing.  Another $600 billion is being added to the debt.  And you and Chuck Schumer stant hand in hand cheering it on while denigrating Conservatives at the same time.

[mountaineer]

Brit Hume
@brithume
Lost in the uproar over the CR in the House is this: the House actually did pass at least half of the regular appropriations bills this year. Guess how many the Senate passed: 0. That's a big part of why we've ended once again with a CR. Is anyone blaming Chuck Schumer?
7:10 PM · Dec 20, 2024

[Hoodat]

Brit Hume
@brithume
Lost in the uproar over the CR in the House is this: the House actually did pass at least half of the regular appropriations bills this year. Guess how many the Senate passed: 0. That's a big part of why we've ended once again with a CR. Is anyone blaming Chuck Schumer?
7:10 PM · Dec 20, 2024

House Republicans should stop bailing Schumer out.  Yes, it's true that the House passed appropriations bills.  Yes, it's true that Schumer sat on them.  So don't make it OK by passing a CRvon the substance of those bills.  Force Schumer to act.

[bilo]

This    is sophomoric, lacking even a rudimentary understanding that math matters.  Thirty-four members of the Freedom Caucus will never be the majority vote in the House of Representatives; obstructionist vote, yes, majority, no.

I think what the Freedom Caucus lost sight of was each situation is different. Trump won big in the election. Trump outperformed almost all Pubs. It's time to stand behind Trump and support him. When the Freedom Caucus shot down the CR that eliminated the censorship agency in the State Dept. and the extension of the debt ceiling for two years all they did was help the Rats.

The CR that passed includes the censorship agency, keeps the debt ceiling in place for a March 2025 confrontation, gives the House a $75,000 raise, and excludes them from obamacare.

[bilo]

Having principles and sticking to them is not meaningless.

It's worse than meaningless if you lose a war because of it.

Let's see how the debt ceiling fight plays out and how it affects the economic plans Trump wants to pursue.

Also, lets see if we can get the censorship agency eliminated from the State Dept now that it's been funded for at least another year.

[bilo]

When one continues to change nothing, "sticking to principles" is, indeed, meaningless. Achieving results in the political arena demands more.

Without  purposeful compromise, strategic thinking and hard work, this "sticking" is merely tiresome virtue signaling.  We no longer have time for this indulgence.

 

From what I see Trump is our last chance to turn the country around. Trump wanted to form the battle field for his budget. The Establishment Loyalists want to block his plans using the debt ceiling as one of their early barriers. The Freedom Caucus played right into their hands, thats why the Rats were so eager to agree.

[bilo]

Can you please explain to this good ole boy from Texas how continually voting FOR that which you despise is ever going to change anything? I'm having trouble grasping that concept. @Right_in_Virginia

The debt ceiling was the critical issue. The secondary issue was the censorship agency.

[bilo]

When one continues to give the Democrats everything they want while at the same time waving a Trump flag,it changes nothing.  Another $600 billion is being added to the debt.  And you and Chuck Schumer stant hand in hand cheering it on while denigrating Conservatives at the same time.

You guys got played.

[Smokin Joe]

Juanita Broaddrick
@atensnut
>snip<

He cut the bill from 1500 pages to 120.

He eliminated the J6 Committee protection provision and cut out a state department agency associated with censorship.
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I was more concerned with the censorship and j6 protection bits than the money.

After all, we can always print more money, right? (/sarc)

[Smokin Joe]

When one continues to change nothing, "sticking to principles" is, indeed, meaningless. Achieving results in the political arena demands more.

Without  purposeful compromise, strategic thinking and hard work, this "sticking" is merely tiresome virtue signaling.  We no longer have time for this indulgence.

Sticking to principles is never meaningless.

Sticking to principle just means you will be at the muster point when the others come to their senses.

What makes no sense is continuing to accept the little deviations, where they become normalized, and the foundation for even greater deviations from the original concept.

Those little deviations add up, and in the end, the results can be so far from what was originally intended, they become catastrophic.

This concept is evident in everything from flight/workplace safety to driving to government.

My swamp critter was not on the list.

[Hoodat]

The debt ceiling was the critical issue.

So placing a limit on the amount of debt this nation can run up is somehow blocking Trump from doing what he wants to do?  Interesting.

[Hoodat]

You guys got played.

We weren't the ones who just handed out tens of billions to illegals.  It's the American people who just got played.

[bigheadfred]

So placing a limit on the amount of debt this nation can run up is somehow blocking Trump from doing what he wants to do?  Interesting.

People are claiming he can't implement his tax policies without raising the debt limit. 

[Hoodat]

People are claiming he can't implement his tax policies without raising the debt limit. 

That's complete bullshit.  Tax )aws are not affected by spending limits.  The bottom line here is that Trump just sided himself with the Swamp.  Again.  And all his zealots know it.

[bilo]

I was more concerned with the censorship and j6 protection bits than the money.

After all, we can always print more money, right? (/sarc)

I didn't realize that about the censorship agency. It makes the CR a little better.

The money issue isn't going to get resolved with austerity. It's going to require growth, cuts in spending below the growth rate and more revenue. Trump would have been in a much better position if the debt ceiling wasn't an issue.

[Hoodat]

The money issue isn't going to get resolved with austerity. It's going to require growth, cuts in spending below the growth rate and more revenue.

We just added another $110 billion when we're supposed to be cutting?  Explain that one.  We don't have a revenue problem.  We have a spending problem.  No amount of growth is ever going to cover 25% of GDP.  At a maximum, taxes will bring in 19% of GDP.

Trump would have been in a much better position if the debt ceiling wasn't an issue.

Help me understand that.  How is removing limits on the amount of debt that can be run up going to put Trump in a better position towards reducing our debt?  There is nothing even remotely true about your statement.  That is unless Trump goal is to run up another $8 trillion in debt like he did last term.