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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2050 on: February 22, 2025, 12:52:19 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2051 on: February 22, 2025, 12:58:38 am »
Yeah, Germany's liberal foreign minister is not helping... Americans already think the Germans are full of sauerkraut as proven with their lax immigration laws. Europe, has long since spent it's money on social programs to the point they have no military strength/spending anymore. I doubt they could fight out of an wet paper bag. Poland seems to be the only country one can take seriously.

It seems keeping Russia and Ukraine at a standoff might be a ploy (who knows)... sorta like keeping the Palestinians in Israel because they are a constant thorn without having to get involved. IDK... it is too complicated for me.

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2052 on: February 22, 2025, 01:01:35 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2053 on: February 22, 2025, 01:07:32 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2054 on: February 22, 2025, 01:09:06 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2055 on: February 22, 2025, 01:18:38 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2056 on: February 22, 2025, 03:54:08 am »
Hegseth had no answer this morning as to what concessions Russia was making, or what Putin was putting on the table...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0-1a1dEg-M

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REPORTER: You focused on what Ukraine has to give up. What concessions will be demanded of Putin?

HEGSETH: Hmm. I would start by saying that the arguments that have been made that somehow sitting down at the table right now is making concessions to Vladimir Putin, I just reject that outright.

REPORTER: Yes, but every “peace talk” so far has been about what Ukraine has to give up – territory, NATO aspirations, sovereignty. So what exactly is Putin putting on the table?

HEGSETH: Well, I don’t think it’s fair to say that we’re just giving concessions to Putin.

REPORTER: Okay, is he pulling out the Russian troops? Paying reparations? Admitting war crimes? Or is his big “compromise” that he’s just taking less from Ukraine than he originally wanted?

HEGSETH: Look, negotiations require both sides to make sacrifices.

REPORTER: Yes, but only one side has launched a full-scale invasion. If a guy steals your house and offers to give you back half of your living room, that's not a "compromise" - that's a hostage deal.

HEGSETH: I just think it's time for diplomacy.

REPORTER: Diplomacy is great when both sides want peace. But when one side just wants a "pause" to recharge, that's not diplomacy - that's setting up for the next invasion.

HEGSETH: So you're saying no negotiations, just endless war?

REPORTER: No, I'm saying that a peace agreement where only one side makes sacrifices is not peace - that's a better saying for surrender.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2057 on: February 22, 2025, 08:51:27 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2058 on: February 22, 2025, 09:54:47 am »
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« Reply #2059 on: February 22, 2025, 10:07:17 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2060 on: February 22, 2025, 10:08:53 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2061 on: February 22, 2025, 10:16:11 am »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on February 22, 2025, 03:54:08 am
At the 06:45 Mark:

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[REPORTER: You focused on what Ukraine has to give up. What concessions will be demanded of Putin?

HEGSETH: Hmm. I would start by saying that the arguments that have been made that somehow sitting down at the table right now is making concessions to Vladimir Putin, I just reject that outright.

REPORTER: Yes, but every “peace talk” so far has been about what Ukraine has to give up – territory, NATO aspirations, sovereignty. So what exactly is Putin putting on the table?

HEGSETH: Well, I don’t think it’s fair to say that we’re just giving concessions to Putin.

REPORTER: Okay, is he pulling out the Russian troops? Paying reparations? Admitting war crimes? Or is his big “compromise” that he’s just taking less from Ukraine than he originally wanted?

HEGSETH: Look, negotiations require both sides to make sacrifices.

REPORTER: Yes, but only one side has launched a full-scale invasion. If a guy steals your house and offers to give you back half of your living room, that's not a "compromise" - that's a hostage deal.

HEGSETH: I just think it's time for diplomacy.

REPORTER: Diplomacy is great when both sides want peace. But when one side just wants a "pause" to recharge, that's not diplomacy - that's setting up for the next invasion.

HEGSETH: So you're saying no negotiations, just endless war?

REPORTER: No, I'm saying that a peace agreement where only one side makes sacrifices is not peace - that's a better saying for surrender.

Wow, who was that reporter?
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2062 on: February 22, 2025, 10:23:19 am »

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1893237881105232215



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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2063 on: February 22, 2025, 10:33:14 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2064 on: February 22, 2025, 10:36:06 am »

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1893154597390151801


The EU countries can deliver outdated or obsolete equipment (like the U.S. is doing) and purchase updated equipment from EU manufacturers.

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2065 on: February 22, 2025, 10:53:42 am »

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1893307754065879471


The smoke will impact video equipped drones, but should not impact drones with thermal cameras.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2066 on: February 22, 2025, 10:59:55 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2067 on: February 22, 2025, 11:06:24 am »
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« Reply #2068 on: February 22, 2025, 11:14:58 am »

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1893250862710960198


Once again, demonstrating poor COMSEC by the ruzzians.
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« Reply #2069 on: February 22, 2025, 11:19:47 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2070 on: February 22, 2025, 11:38:27 am »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on February 22, 2025, 03:54:08 am
Hegseth had no answer this morning as to what concessions Russia was making, or what Putin was putting on the table...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0-1a1dEg-M

At the 06:45 Mark:


So, basically, Trump is rolling over like a lovesick puppy and selling out Ukraine to Russia.  What a fu_cking disappointment.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2071 on: February 22, 2025, 12:06:53 pm »
Russian state media says that Trump is Putin's poodle.

https://youtu.be/QWbtUcVPw8g?si=oXvgEmK9Ib3SX80o
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2072 on: February 22, 2025, 12:54:52 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on February 22, 2025, 12:06:53 pm
Russian state media says that Trump is Putin's poodle.

Russian state media reporting the truth?  Hell must be freezing over.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2073 on: February 22, 2025, 02:31:21 pm »
Trump better stop stepping on his own dick or it is going to go sideways soon.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2074 on: February 22, 2025, 02:48:57 pm »
Quote from: DB on February 22, 2025, 02:31:21 pm
Trump better stop stepping on his own dick or it is going to go sideways soon.

That's an impressive statement when you stop to think about it!  tipping hat!! tipping hat!!
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