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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1975 on: February 20, 2025, 11:05:22 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on February 20, 2025, 10:33:00 am
This  pointing-up  is more proof stupid should hurt.

 *look*  :bs::pootrump:
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1976 on: February 20, 2025, 11:43:19 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1978 on: February 20, 2025, 12:28:57 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 20, 2025, 10:46:10 am
But....Zelinsky is a POS, and his corrupt self can go F himself

I am curious as to how you came by this impression of Zelensky?
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1979 on: February 20, 2025, 12:35:33 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on February 20, 2025, 12:28:57 pm
I am curious as to how you came by this impression of Zelensky?

From day 1, he has been vague and ambiguous of the cornucopia of funds we have provided.  I support the Uke troops, but there was a lot of anecdotal info. floating around that a good deal of that has been diverted for other purposes.  The picture of his wife shopping in Paris during the first Christmas after the war started, irked me too.   Then add the point that his biggest allies here were Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi?

Yeah I'd say I am not a fan.   And I hope DOGE might put the light to what went where too.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1980 on: February 20, 2025, 12:40:25 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 20, 2025, 12:35:33 pm
From day 1, he has been vague and ambiguous of the cornucopia of funds we have provided.  I support the Uke troops, but there was a lot of anecdotal info. floating around that a good deal of that has been diverted for other purposes.  The picture of his wife shopping in Paris during the first Christmas after the war started, irked me too.   Then add the point that his biggest allies here were Biden, Schumer, and Pelosi?

Yeah I'd say I am not a fan.   And I hope DOGE might put the light to what went where too.

95% of the funds 'appropriated for Ukraine' never left the USA. Some of it went to crap totally unrelated to Ukraine. How is Z supposed to take responsibility for the usual corruption in Congress?

As to his wife shopping in Paris...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersuciu/2024/07/02/social-media-posts-claim-zelenskys-wife-spent-millions-on-bugatti-sportscar/

I share your hope that DOGE can expose the graft that was built into Ukraine relief by both Democrats AND Republicans.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1981 on: February 20, 2025, 12:46:47 pm »
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95% of the funds 'appropriated for Ukraine' never left the USA. Some of it went to crap totally unrelated to Ukraine. How is Z supposed to take responsibility for the usual corruption in Congress?

As to his wife shopping in Paris...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersuciu/2024/07/02/social-media-posts-claim-zelenskys-wife-spent-millions-on-bugatti-sportscar/

I share your hope that DOGE can expose the graft that was built into Ukraine relief by both Democrats AND Republicans.

She might not bought a sports car, but the pics of her with shopping bags in Paris are valid.

5% to the Ukes?  That's speculation.  Let's let Elon get to the bottom of the numbers.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1982 on: February 20, 2025, 12:55:35 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 20, 2025, 12:46:47 pm
She might not bought a sports car, but the pics of her with shopping bags in Paris are valid.

5% to the Ukes?  That's speculation.  Let's let Elon get to the bottom of the numbers.

The 5% figure is very well documented in this topic by both myself and others.

Also, who the hell goes to Paris without shopping? I'm not rich but I'd definitely buy a couple things before hitting a cafe.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1983 on: February 20, 2025, 12:58:34 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on February 20, 2025, 12:55:35 pm
The 5% figure is very well documented in this topic by both myself and others.

Also, who the hell goes to Paris without shopping? I'm not rich but I'd definitely buy a couple things before hitting a cafe.

Well documented?  We'll see. 

With Ukes dying in the trenches, she's shopping in Paris.  Great optics there wouldn't you say?  /s
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1984 on: February 20, 2025, 01:05:04 pm »
Until Ukraine establishes air supremacy, it will not be able re-conquer occupied territory.

I admire the Ukrainians innovative use of drones.

Maybe the best thing the Ukrainians can do is to napalm the Russian positions.  Fire not only burns, but it also suffocates.  There's nothng to lose.  The Russians have reduced much of their occupied territory to wasteland.

The West still needs to conduct spycraft in BelaRus and Transnistria.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1985 on: February 20, 2025, 01:13:01 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 20, 2025, 12:58:34 pm
Well documented?  We'll see. 

With Ukes dying in the trenches, she's shopping in Paris.  Great optics there wouldn't you say?  /s

People all over the USA are enduring the painful aftermath of disaster and Melania is wearing a new designer dress every day. Should she wear sack cloth instead?
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1986 on: February 20, 2025, 01:25:22 pm »
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People all over the USA are enduring the painful aftermath of disaster and Melania is wearing a new designer dress every day. Should she wear sack cloth instead?

Is Melania traveling the world begging for money from other countries to save the US?
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1987 on: February 20, 2025, 01:29:39 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on February 20, 2025, 01:25:22 pm
Is Melania traveling the world begging for money from other countries to save the US?

It wouldn't hurt.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1988 on: February 20, 2025, 01:29:49 pm »
Melania can salvage this public relations tussle by auctioning off her worn dresses for charity ... The Trump Foundation for Widows, Waifs, and Orphans, perhaps?
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1989 on: February 20, 2025, 01:33:06 pm »
@catfish1957  and @Right_in_Virginia

During World War Two and on the eve of the Battle of the Bulge General Patton went shopping in Paris. He engaged some designers and design shops. Should he have not done this and instead worried about optics?
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1990 on: February 20, 2025, 01:36:47 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 20, 2025, 12:58:34 pm
Well documented?  We'll see. 

With Ukes dying in the trenches, she's shopping in Paris.  Great optics there wouldn't you say?  /s

Does the truth matter at all anymore?

https://www.newsweek.com/zelenska-zelensky-ukraine-russia-paris-france-shopping-spree-1768736

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1991 on: February 20, 2025, 01:41:26 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on February 20, 2025, 01:33:06 pm
@catfish1957  and @Right_in_Virginia

During World War Two and on the eve of the Battle of the Bulge General Patton went shopping in Paris. He engaged some designers and design shops. Should he have not done this and instead worried about optics?

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1992 on: February 20, 2025, 01:47:44 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1993 on: February 20, 2025, 01:55:05 pm »
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Does the truth matter at all anymore?

https://www.newsweek.com/zelenska-zelensky-ukraine-russia-paris-france-shopping-spree-1768736

We have been lied to by the likes of Newsweek, MSNBC, CNN, etc.  You believe the MSM at their word?

Especially with the likes of Pelosi, Schumer, and Biden so cozy with the Z's?
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1994 on: February 20, 2025, 01:57:37 pm »
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People all over the USA are enduring the painful aftermath of disaster and Melania is wearing a new designer dress every day. Should she wear sack cloth instead?

Big difference in spot national disasters versus when a vast percentage of your countrymen are suffering. 
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1995 on: February 20, 2025, 01:59:53 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 20, 2025, 01:55:05 pm
We have been lied to by the likes of Newsweek, MSNBC, CNN, etc.  You believe the MSM at their word?

Okay, where are you getting your info and why do you trust those sources?
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1996 on: February 20, 2025, 02:02:24 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on February 20, 2025, 01:47:44 pm
Silly.

We're $36 trillion in debt. I was being serious.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1997 on: February 20, 2025, 02:08:02 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on February 20, 2025, 01:59:53 pm
Okay, where are you getting your info and why do you trust those sources?

I am a news junky.  That list is too large and variable write down.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1998 on: February 20, 2025, 02:11:18 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 20, 2025, 01:55:05 pm
We have been lied to by the likes of Newsweek, MSNBC, CNN, etc.  You believe the MSM at their word?

Especially with the likes of Pelosi, Schumer, and Biden so cozy with the Z's?

It provides the sources if you dare read it. Your source is what exactly??? Your source is an unsourced claim of "a clerk that works in the store" that she supposedly shopped at.

So in short, you want to believe what you want to believe to justify getting out of Dodge, no actual evidence required while there are very real consequences for millions of lives at stake.

What the hell.

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #1999 on: February 20, 2025, 02:12:40 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 20, 2025, 02:08:02 pm
I am a news junky.  That list is too large and variable write down.

Yet your sources boil down to the source listed in the Newsweek article I provided you.
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