Author Topic: Hurricane Helene (Read 81891 times)

mystery-ak · « **Reply #600 on:** October 05, 2024, 12:52:17 pm »

https://twitter.com/Mercury1Charity/status/1842249438452171094

mystery-ak · « **Reply #601 on:** October 05, 2024, 12:54:20 pm »

https://twitter.com/iAnonPatriot/status/1842408354204746200

mystery-ak · « **Reply #602 on:** October 05, 2024, 01:18:10 pm »

https://twitter.com/CoryMillsFL/status/1842364693593145673

mystery-ak · « **Reply #603 on:** October 05, 2024, 01:22:44 pm »

https://twitter.com/TONYxTWO/status/1842341088528371817

mystery-ak · « **Reply #604 on:** October 05, 2024, 01:27:28 pm »

https://twitter.com/thinktankfranks/status/1842273868917985467

Timber Rattler · « **Reply #605 on:** October 05, 2024, 01:44:42 pm »

Has FEMA and local LEOs fire chiefs threatened those other helicopter pilots with arrest yet? Just curious.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #606 on:** October 05, 2024, 01:48:06 pm »

https://twitter.com/lamps_apple/status/1842390185251631383

mystery-ak · « **Reply #607 on:** October 06, 2024, 09:28:49 am »

Homeland Security Adviser: Up to ‘600 People Unaccounted for’ After Hurricane Helene’s Devastation

As the death toll from Hurricane Helene crosses 220, hundreds of missing persons cases across the U.S. southeast are feared to become body recoveries.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/10/05/homeland-security-adviser-up-to-600-people-unaccounted-for-after-hurricane-helenes-devastation/

mountaineer · « **Reply #608 on:** October 06, 2024, 09:36:03 am »

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Mike VonSteuben
@MikeVonsteuben
Today I had my first direct encounter with FEMA. I've also heard firsthand reports from people I closely work with here on the ground about similar incidents. A trend is forming. I'll do my best to provide an accurate, unbiased analysis of it here.

Buckle up, this is a long one.

Today we convoyed to Pensacola NC. The route had just been partially cleared from the North. We loaded up 10 vics with generators, filters, charcoal, and all the blankets we could fit. Our large convoy took all hour to make the trip over the must treacherous roads I've seen yet. We finally arrived safely at the fire station. We were informed by a female "logistics officer" that they were not accepting any more donations until Monday, and to take our supplies back.

Some locals who were distributing supplies from that fire station told us that FEMA had taken over and was doing an inventory. They also told us that they were only distributing animal feed and hygiene items like toilet paper. We did our best to distribute our load anyway. We sent ATVs into the hills to knock on doors. I put a cardboard sign on my truck advertising what we had to passers by, and managed to offload some of it. In the end, we were forced to return with 70% of what we came with.

I reported the incident to the church leadership and they were stunned. The pastor's wife told me that something similar happened today at the Mitchell High School, where American Red Cross workers arrived, kicked out all the volunteers and took the supplies to "inventory" them.

Summary: FEMA and the Red Cross seem to be methodically taking over distribution centers and shutting them down to "inventory" them. They also sent representatives to our distribution point at the church, but left us alone.

Analysis: Prior to this incident, FEMA had only been observed in an administrative role, but the results of that role are now coming into effect. They are attempting to centralize control of supplies and are allowing bureaucratic red tape to interfere with distribution.

Recommendations:
-Drop off supplies at churches only. FEMA has no authority to seize anything from a church, for now.
-Send a route recon ahead of planned convoys to check for roadblocks and verify that supplies will not be rejected at the destination. Motorcycles are ideal.
9:55 PM · Oct 5, 2024

AllThatJazzZ · « **Reply #609 on:** October 06, 2024, 10:46:56 am »

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Mike VonSteuben
@MikeVonsteuben
Today I had my first direct encounter with FEMA. I've also heard firsthand reports from people I closely work with here on the ground about similar incidents. A trend is forming. I'll do my best to provide an accurate, unbiased analysis of it here.

Buckle up, this is a long one.

Today we convoyed to Pensacola NC. The route had just been partially cleared from the North. We loaded up 10 vics with generators, filters, charcoal, and all the blankets we could fit. Our large convoy took all hour to make the trip over the must treacherous roads I've seen yet. We finally arrived safely at the fire station. We were informed by a female "logistics officer" that they were not accepting any more donations until Monday, and to take our supplies back.

Some locals who were distributing supplies from that fire station told us that FEMA had taken over and was doing an inventory. They also told us that they were only distributing animal feed and hygiene items like toilet paper. We did our best to distribute our load anyway. We sent ATVs into the hills to knock on doors. I put a cardboard sign on my truck advertising what we had to passers by, and managed to offload some of it. In the end, we were forced to return with 70% of what we came with.

I reported the incident to the church leadership and they were stunned. The pastor's wife told me that something similar happened today at the Mitchell High School, where American Red Cross workers arrived, kicked out all the volunteers and took the supplies to "inventory" them.

Summary: FEMA and the Red Cross seem to be methodically taking over distribution centers and shutting them down to "inventory" them. They also sent representatives to our distribution point at the church, but left us alone.

Analysis: Prior to this incident, FEMA had only been observed in an administrative role, but the results of that role are now coming into effect. They are attempting to centralize control of supplies and are allowing bureaucratic red tape to interfere with distribution.

Recommendations:
-Drop off supplies at churches only. FEMA has no authority to seize anything from a church, for now.
-Send a route recon ahead of planned convoys to check for roadblocks and verify that supplies will not be rejected at the destination. Motorcycles are ideal.
9:55 PM · Oct 5, 2024

Reading accounts like this drives me out of my mind.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #610 on:** October 06, 2024, 10:54:42 am »

Quote from: AllThatJazzZ on October 06, 2024, 10:46:56 am

Reading accounts like this drives me out of my mind.

And on other social media, people are declaring all of this as "Fox Fake News."

mystery-ak · « **Reply #611 on:** October 06, 2024, 11:19:54 am »

https://twitter.com/GardensR4Health/status/1842627384194793677

https://twitter.com/GardensR4Health/status/1842628219570401644

catfish1957 · « **Reply #612 on:** October 06, 2024, 11:24:44 am »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on October 06, 2024, 10:54:42 am

And on other social media, people are declaring all of this as "Fox Fake News."

And why what used to be political opponents are now enemies.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #613 on:** October 06, 2024, 11:35:26 am »

https://twitter.com/901Lulu/status/1842724743536845286

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #614 on:** October 06, 2024, 11:50:55 am »

The longer FEMA delays, the more bodies there will be, and the more difficult recovery efforts will be. The Red Cross lost my support in '79 in Grand Forks, ND. More people woke up to them after 9/11. But FEMA has been weaponized to carry out the dirty work of the invasion and is covering the Administration's collective ass by reducing access to the devastated areas and people. If the bodies aren't recovered, people unaccounted for will be put under "missing", and not included in death tolls.

Bottom line, though, is that instead of coordinating private efforts to maximum effect, they are taking a 5 day workweek, 9-5 approach to a 24/7 problem. That will end poorly for a lot of the predominantly white (because they had no slaves to free) mostly God-fearing (because you live closer to Him in the hills) salt-of-the-Earth people in the Appalachians, a group I came to know, love, and respect in my time in the region.

While none are perfect, these are just the sort of folks this administration has fomented the culture war against. Now it has the perfect weapon--and all it has to do is as little as possible, and hinder the efforts of those who were getting things done.

This is America. Avoid them if you can, make them arrest you to stop you. Get local LEOs involved to run interference. Get the word out any way possible, and this can be thrown in their faces.

catfish1957 · « **Reply #615 on:** October 06, 2024, 11:54:29 am »

Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 06, 2024, 11:50:55 am

The longer FEMA delays, the more bodies there will be, and the more difficult recovery efforts will be.

Someone prove to me that this is any different of neglecting a certain demographic, than what "W" was accused on in '05.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #616 on:** October 06, 2024, 12:10:07 pm »

Laura Loomer
@LauraLoomer

Is anyone in the GOP making sure the Hurricane victims have a way to vote?

8:25 AM · Oct 6, 2024

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #617 on:** October 06, 2024, 12:18:53 pm »

Quote from: catfish1957 on October 06, 2024, 11:24:44 am

And why what used to be political opponents are now enemies.

Agreed!

Elderberry · « **Reply #618 on:** October 06, 2024, 12:31:15 pm »

Helicopter pilot arrested for helping Helene victims.

Wall Street Apes
@WallStreetApes
MUST LISTEN 🚨 Kamala Harris Admin ARRESTED a man for bringing helicopter full of supplies to Hurricane Helene victims

“There was a man that took off yesterday in his helicopter to go up in the mountains to drop off food. He landed and got arrested and said he was interfering with a government operation, but there's no operations going on.”

“I'm currently in Asheville, North Carolina with my company doing disaster security for a dialysis company, and we're also doing search and rescue for patients to bring them to dialysis so they don't die.

This place is a war zone people and the military is not here.

And the reason I'm pissed because I was part of the operation during hurricane Katrina. I was stationed in San Diego and within 96 hours we were in Louisiana. And these bastards are not sending the military here.

There's so much destruction. There's no news crews here. That's why you're not seeing it. The American people should be angry at what our government is doing to this town. There are people hurting here.

There are so many people dying. I drove past a young kids about 5 to 7 years old. They were brother and sister, and they were looking for their parents. We got them to a church. These young kids don't know where their mom and dad are.

And the military is being f*cking hamstrained by these damn DOD f*cking executives. If you're not angry, you should be. Because this is what our government thinks about us. They're not here to help us. We have to take care of ourselves.

There's townsears that are self policing. We drove into towns where the the town folk came up to us and said, what are you doing here? So we're looking for patients. We're trying to get them help, and they welcome us with open arms. This is bad, people.

You're not here. It is very bad. We need water. We need food. We need clothes.

I'm in a budget motel, and I'm very grateful, and I feel somewhat guilty that I have a roof over my head and a shower. And it's right across from the airport.

There was a man that took off yesterday in his helicopter to go up in the mountains to drop off food. He landed and got arrested and said he was interfering with the government, a government operation, but there's no operations going on.

I'm sick to my stomach that our government treats our American people this way.

And then when they get slapped in the face, oh, here's $750. After we sent over $200,000,000,000 overseas. Alejandro Mayorkas, you're a traitor to your country.

https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1842217665303372243

Timber Rattler · « **Reply #619 on:** October 06, 2024, 12:36:49 pm »

Sounds like a re-telling of the incident from last week in which an assistant fire chief threatened to have a private pilot arrested for essentially rescuing a stranded couple on a mountain.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #620 on:** October 06, 2024, 01:38:56 pm »

Quote from: catfish1957 on October 06, 2024, 11:54:29 am

Someone prove to me that this is any different of neglecting a certain demographic, than what "W" was accused on in '05.

It is different in a couple of ways.

One, after '05, you'd think they'd have their stuff together. What worked, what didn't. Lessons learned, and all that.

Two, W didn't neglect anyone,the assets were there waiting, including national guard, but the governors didn't call them in. Either those Democrats were trying to make Bush look bad, or they wanted to maximize the results.

Three, this seems to be more of a Fedgov CYA, DEI based, agenda oriented, clueless operation than a department dedicated to the timely rescue of those who need it and support of those who are not directly in physical peril from the event. Your average Volunteer Fire Department, given the resources, could run rings around this bunch, and would do so with a greater sense of urgency because they know the people in their first-due response area and know the terrain.

When people talk of victims of a disaster finding out about them being there on TV or their car radio and going on line to file forms, you know they have no clue what it is like to be on the receiving end of a disaster. Seasoned disaster relief managers would know that ordinary communications methods that are taken for granted in normal times are unavailable, especially to those who are in distress.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #621 on:** October 06, 2024, 02:54:20 pm »

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1842747370859118729

mountaineer · « **Reply #622 on:** October 06, 2024, 02:59:48 pm »

FEMA abandons devastated NC town residents because they can’t drive around ‘road closed’ sign: ‘Nobody’s been bringing in supplies except civilians’
By Jack Morphet and Chris Nesi
Published Oct. 6, 2024, 12:15 p.m. ET

BAT CAVE, North Carolina — Residents of a tiny North Carolina town that was almost totally destroyed by Hurricane Helene fending for themselves after FEMA told them that a “road closed” sign is an insurmountable obstacle for the agency to navigate.

“FEMA called me and told me they wanted to inspect my house then called me back to say they couldn’t drive around the ‘road closed’ sign. They weren’t allowed,” local Chelsea Atkins, 38, told The Post.

“You can drive it by car for sure, it’s not that bad, you just have to drive around the ‘road closed sign’. I explained that to them. They said they couldn’t,” she said, recounting her maddening exchange with the embattled federal agency. ...

https://nypost.com/2024/10/06/us-news/fema-abandons-residents-of-devastated-nc-town-because-of-road-closed-sign/

mystery-ak · « **Reply #623 on:** October 06, 2024, 03:38:57 pm »

https://twitter.com/elonmuskTN/status/1842560932079382831

mystery-ak · « **Reply #624 on:** October 06, 2024, 04:19:33 pm »

https://twitter.com/PolitiBunny/status/1843018253486223652

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #625 on:** October 06, 2024, 04:29:47 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 06, 2024, 04:19:33 pm

https://twitter.com/PolitiBunny/status/1843018253486223652

No one is badmouthing the first responders who are out there doing the rescues, dropping off supplies, generators, starlink setups, often at no small expense to themselves.

They are badmouthing FEMA which came in a week later to evaluate the applications people are supposed to file online to determine whether they need help while commandeering supplies to maintain control over what gets distributed to whom. The locals aren't going to care what brand of bottled water gets to them if they are dying of thirst..

The first responders responded, FEMA is slowing and hampering that effort.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #626 on:** October 06, 2024, 05:30:22 pm »

https://twitter.com/TONYxTWO/status/1842733536865853905

Timber Rattler · « **Reply #627 on:** October 06, 2024, 06:41:12 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 06, 2024, 05:30:22 pm

https://twitter.com/TONYxTWO/status/1842733536865853905/history

Generous offer but reckless...he should be wary of a bunch of illegal aliens arriving, claiming that they are hurricane refugees, and then squatting on his property and becoming immoveable.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #628 on:** October 06, 2024, 07:21:47 pm »

https://twitter.com/Inga_C8/status/1842939993167405059

mystery-ak · « **Reply #629 on:** October 06, 2024, 07:28:10 pm »

https://twitter.com/SarahisCensored/status/1842938886135431207

mystery-ak · « **Reply #630 on:** October 06, 2024, 07:30:12 pm »

I just sit here in tears reading one story after another...

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #631 on:** October 06, 2024, 07:43:40 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 06, 2024, 07:30:12 pm

I just sit here in tears reading one story after another...

Me too....

cato potatoe · « **Reply #632 on:** October 06, 2024, 08:04:55 pm »

FEMA has been a major impediment to debris removal in Pinellas County. Their red tape closed the main landfill. Haulers were instructed to dump the debris back in the yards of storm victims, where it would sit for months. So with another storm we were faced with the prospect of debris smashing into already damaged properties.

Thankfully, DeSantis commandeered the debris removal. I have seen escorted convoys of dump trucks heading to the flood zones today. They have 3 days, and will be working around the clock.

Timber Rattler · « **Reply #633 on:** October 06, 2024, 08:06:38 pm »

Your Government, Ladies and Gentlemen! FEMA Tells NC Town It Can't Help Because of 'Road Closed' Signs

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/10/06/tammy-bruce-fema-wont-pass-road-closed-sign-n2401842

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"I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan rightly called that sentence the nine most terrifying words in the English language. And it's true.

But here's FEMA -- the government -- unable to help people in North Carolina.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/06/us-news/fema-abandons-residents-of-devastated-nc-town-because-of-road-closed-sign/

EXCERPT

corbe · « **Reply #634 on:** October 06, 2024, 08:08:07 pm »

I don't know how any of you do it, especially those immersed in this constant barrage news cycle 12 hours a day.
It seems very weary on my soul.

Bigun · « **Reply #635 on:** October 06, 2024, 08:50:06 pm »

Quote from: corbe on October 06, 2024, 08:08:07 pm

I don't know how any of you do it, especially those immersed in this constant barrage news cycle 12 hours a day.
It seems very weary on my soul.

It wears on me as well @corbe especially the part about being so old and worn out that I can't do a damned thing about any of it.

corbe · « **Reply #636 on:** October 06, 2024, 09:00:52 pm »

I can only take it in kibbles form, a little bit at each seating.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #637 on:** October 06, 2024, 09:26:25 pm »

https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1843062024345129313

mystery-ak · « **Reply #638 on:** October 06, 2024, 09:31:41 pm »

https://twitter.com/GardensR4Health/status/1842939524093292719

mountaineer · « **Reply #639 on:** October 07, 2024, 08:01:38 am »

Erick Erickson
@EWErickson
The real scandal about Hurricane Helene is not the made up stories with no evidence. The real scandal is this:

September 26 — Helene Makes Landfall
September 27 — Devastation in North Carolina
September 28 —
September 29 —
September 30 —
October 1 —
October 2 — President Biden mobilizes the military
October 3 — Mobilization of 500 soldiers begins
October 4 —
October 5 — Mobilization of 500 more soldiers for search and rescue.

Those blank days are days when people were dying in the mountains.
And the media tells us everything is fine.
10:56 PM · Oct 6, 2024

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Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
I don't know if everything coming out of North Carolina is true. But I know the media has decided to ignore it, not even sending news anchors for on the ground coverage. And the more the media decides to ignore something over politics, the worse it generally is.
7:35 AM · Oct 7, 2024

Not even Anderson Cooper standing in a puddle.

mountaineer · « **Reply #640 on:** October 07, 2024, 09:01:49 am »

Why did an unmarked Blackhawk rotor wash a supply drop off in western North Carolina? It destroyed relief supplies intended for Helene victims. Watch entire video.

https://twitter.com/hartgoat/status/1843158426509258957

mystery-ak · « **Reply #641 on:** October 07, 2024, 09:03:19 am »

Biden Orders 500 More Troops to North Carolina to Assist with Hurricane Relief Efforts

President Joe Biden ordered “500 additional active-duty troops” to go to North Carolina to assist with the ongoing Hurricane Helene relief efforts.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/10/06/biden-orders-500-more-troops-north-carolina-assist-hurricane-relief-efforts/

mystery-ak · « **Reply #642 on:** October 07, 2024, 09:04:40 am »

Report: Residents in North Carolina Town Fend for Themselves — ‘Don’t Care if FEMA Comes By’

Residents in a North Carolina town have reportedly been left to fend for themselves in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene’s destruction, adding that they “don’t care if” the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) “comes by.”

https://www.breitbart.com/weather/2024/10/06/residents-nc-town-fend-themselves-dont-care-fema-comes/

mystery-ak · « **Reply #643 on:** October 07, 2024, 09:35:12 am »

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1842699878905880879

catfish1957 · « **Reply #644 on:** October 07, 2024, 10:12:38 am »

Quote from: mountaineer on October 07, 2024, 09:01:49 am

Why did an unmarked Blackhawk rotor wash a supply drop off in western North Carolina? It destroyed relief supplies intended for Helene victims. Watch entire video.

I am guessing the number of privately owned "Black Hawks" is approaching zero. Investigate? Good luck with investigating the government.

catfish1957 · « **Reply #645 on:** October 07, 2024, 10:14:42 am »

Quote from: Timber Rattler on October 06, 2024, 06:41:12 pm

Generous offer but reckless...he should be wary of a bunch of illegal aliens arriving, claiming that they are hurricane refugees, and then squatting on his property and becoming immoveable.

Yep, my first thoughts were about 1000 Antifa colonist setting up a commune. I think he'll regret that offer.

mountaineer · « **Reply #646 on:** October 07, 2024, 10:54:43 am »

Quote from: catfish1957 on October 07, 2024, 10:12:38 am

I am guessing the number of privately owned "Black Hawks" is approaching zero. Investigate? Good luck with investigating the government.

Eyewitnesses couldn't see any tail numbers or markings at all on the helicopter. Gee, that's odd.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #647 on:** October 07, 2024, 11:10:21 am »

Mike says that Blackhawk has to be from the Government..what branch who knows....civilians aren't allowed to purchase blackhawks as it is current Army weapons system...

Civilians are allowed to buy the S76 civilian version from Sikorsky without any of the weapon systems...

rustynail · « **Reply #648 on:** October 07, 2024, 11:15:27 am »

"Privately Owned Blackhawks
Based on the search results, privately owned Blackhawks are not as common as one might think. However, there are a few instances where civilians have acquired these helicopters.

Surplus Blackhawks: Many surplus Blackhawks from military service are being repurposed for civilian use. These helicopters are being sold to private companies, firefighting organizations, and even individuals with deep pockets. The Orange County Fire Authority, for example, is acquiring two “Fire Hawks” for their fleet.
Specialized Operations: Some private companies, such as cybersecurity firms, are operating Blackhawks for specific purposes like aerial surveillance or transportation.
Prototype and Rare Cases: There have been instances of privately owned Blackhawks, like the 1970 Sikorsky S-67 Blackhawk prototype, which was built with research and development funds.
Challenges and Considerations

Privately owning a Blackhawk comes with significant challenges and considerations:

Cost: The price tag for a used or refurbished Blackhawk can range from millions to tens of millions of dollars, making it inaccessible to most individuals.
Regulations: Civilian ownership of Blackhawks is subject to strict regulations, including registration, maintenance, and operation requirements.
Security: Privately owned Blackhawks may require enhanced security measures to prevent unauthorized access or misuse.
Conclusion

While privately owned Blackhawks do exist, they are relatively rare and often tied to specialized operations or high-net-worth individuals. The challenges and considerations surrounding civilian ownership make it a niche market, with only a select few able to acquire and operate these powerful helicopters."

(see HeaveyDSparks on youtube)

mountaineer · « **Reply #649 on:** October 07, 2024, 11:16:57 am »

Quote from: mystery-ak on October 07, 2024, 11:10:21 am

Mike says that Blackhawk has to be from the Government..what branch who knows....

That's what people commenting on the tweet were saying. Either CIA, Army or National Guard. Either way, wth. What evil is this to buzz a parking lot, injuring people and blowing relief supplies all over the place?