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Ryan Wesley Routh left behind AK-47 with scratched-off serial number at scene of attempted assassination: Washington Post
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More information has emerged about the attempted assassination of Former President Donald Trump at his Florida golf course.

Would-be Donald Trump assassin Ryan Wesley Routh apparently left behind an AK-47 rifle with a serial "at least partially obliterated" at the scene of the attempted shooting, The Washington Post reported.

According to the source, this makes it more difficult "to quickly determine how the suspect procured the weapon."


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Ryan Wesley Routh left behind AK-47 with scratched-off serial number at scene of attempted assassination: Washington Post
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More information has emerged about the attempted assassination of Former President Donald Trump at his Florida golf course.

Would-be Donald Trump assassin Ryan Wesley Routh apparently left behind an AK-47 rifle with a serial "at least partially obliterated" at the scene of the attempted shooting, The Washington Post reported.

According to the source, this makes it more difficult "to quickly determine how the suspect procured the weapon."


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What?

There are reagents that can pick off a date of rubbed thin Buffalo Nickel.  I don't believe that the number can be fully obliterated, with proper forensics technique.

Unless he really boogered it up, like with a drill.
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Would-be Donald Trump assassin Ryan Wesley Routh apparently left behind an AK-47 rifle with a serial "at least partially obliterated" at the scene of the attempted shooting, The Washington Post reported.


An AK-47 is a very poor selection for a sniper rifle.  It is a close-quarters weapon that fires 7.62 X 39mm cartridges, which is ballistically similar to a relatively low-powered 30-30.  At a hundred yards, it generally fires in 4-inch groups or worse, with significant drop-off beyond that range.



A far better sniper rifle would be the SVD Dragunov, chambered for 7.62 X 54mm Russian, designed for that purpose.



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Ryan Wesley Routh — suspect police say tried to kill Former President Trump — was just in Federal court. Charged with possession of a firearm by a convicted felon and possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number.
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Ryan Wesley Routh wrote a rambling book last year urging Iran to kill Trump

Alleged would-be Donald Trump assassin Ryan Wesley Routh wrote a rambling book last year urging Iran to kill the former president.

“You are free to assassinate Trump,” Routh ranted in his self-published missive as wrote of the “tremendous blunder” of leaving the Iran nuclear deal.

He also described Trump as a “fool” and “buffoon” for the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riots.

Elsewhere, Routh penned that he’d voted for Trump in 2016 but must take part of the blame for the “child that we elected for our next president that ended up being brainless.”

The book, which appears on Amazon without a publisher, is titled “Ukraine’s Unwinnable War: The Fatal Flaw of Democracy, World Abandonment and the Global Citizen-Taiwan, Afghanistan, North Korea and the end of Humanity.”

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David Frum: Trump, Vance ‘Want to Present Themselves as Near-Victims’ After 2nd Assassination Attempt on Trump

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David Frum, a prominent “Never Trump” pundit and former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, claimed that former President Donald Trump and his running mate Sen. JD Vance (R-OH) “want to present themselves as near-victims of violence” following the second assassination attempt against Trump that transpired on Sunday.

“Trump and his running mate have spent the past week successfully inciting violence in Springfield, Ohio. Today they want to present themselves as near-victims of violence — in this case, of violence completely unrelated to themselves and at a very safe distance from themselves,” Frum wrote in a Sunday X post.


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This thing with Ryan Wesley Routh stinks.

Why?

1. This is the first such criminal whose social media posts were NOT scrubbed by the Feds before they released his name. In other words, they WANT you to see those social media posts.

2. It's another failure of the Secret Service and this time they admit that President Trump is getting substandard protection.

3. An AK-type weapon? Looks like a Norinco SKS. That's weird.

4. The cops did a felony stop on him and they didn't kill him? Their restraint is unusual.

5. Ryan Wesley Routh is supposedly a Nikki Haley supporter? Like she attracts militant types to her campaigns? I'm sorry but on behalf of everyone allow me to say, Huh?

It smells. Bad.
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Strom nails it!

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/09/16/democrats-ramp-up-anti-trump-rhetoric-even-after-2-attempts-on-trumps-life-n3794566#google_vignette

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It's Trump's fault that leftists keep taking shots at him.

That is the line that Democrats are pushing out this morning. It's almost--almost, I say--as if they wish that one of these nutcases had succeeded.

I would never suggest that this is the case, of course because it requires mind reading. Except that it doesn't for many on the left. When leftists promote actual violence and even murder to eliminate their political opponents, perhaps we should believe them.

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Ryan Wesley Routh echoed the Democrats' talking point that Trump is a "threat to democracy" and, as with so many Trump haters, explicitly called for his assassination. It may be that the Democrat politicians refrain from going quite that far, their allies in the cultural class, including actors and musicians (and donors) haven't been shy about wanting Trump dead. Asking for a John Wilkes Booth to emerge is hardly subtle.
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Accused Trump gunman hid in sniper's nest for nearly 12 hours before he was spotted
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Ryan Wesley Routh, the alleged would-be Trump assassin, set up a sniper's nest near the former president's golf course and hid there for nearly 12 hours before the apparent ambush attempt, federal prosecutors said Monday.

Routh's cell phone pinged to the spot on the edge of Trump International West Palm Beach starting from 1:59 a.m. on Sunday, the federal criminal complaint said.

His gun barrel was spotted by a Secret Service agent about 1:30 p.m. -- while Trump was on the links 300-500 yards away.

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I would like to thank everyone for your concern and well wishes - It was certainly an interesting day! Most importantly, I want to thank the U.S. Secret Service, Sheriff Ric Bradshaw and his Office of brave and dedicated Patriots, and, all of Law Enforcement, for the incredible job done today at Trump International in keeping me, as the 45th President of the United States, and the Republican Nominee in the upcoming Presidential Election, SAFE. THE JOB DONE WAS ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING. I AM VERY PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!
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And there it is again.... "The end justifies the means."
This turd is as delusional as his father, all he’s had are some parking tickets, he’s not a violent person? Either he has no clue who his father really is or he’s lying.

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https://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/status/1835629539038208225


https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1835427196401263091


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Hmmm, I guess Kinzinger was in a cocoon, during the Reagan, and Bush administrations, this crap has been the democrats bread and butter for decades and has gone to hyperspeed in the Obama and Biden administrations, but go ahead crybaby join your fellow democrats and blame Trump for what you are responsible for.

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What?

There are reagents that can pick off a date of rubbed thin Buffalo Nickel.  I don't believe that the number can be fully obliterated, with proper forensics technique.

Unless he really boogered it up, like with a drill.
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Ryan Wesley Routh — suspect police say tried to kill Former President Trump — was just in Federal court. Charged with possession of a firearm by a convicted felon and possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number.
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Through all of this, I feel the worst for Melania.


So do I...
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wow! $1200 dollars a month to fight and die in Ukraine? How could anyone turn down such a powerful monetary incentive! As far as who is funding it? My guess would be no one, if you are dumb enough to go you shouldn’t be surprised when you don’t get paid.

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This thing with Ryan Wesley Routh stinks.

Why?

1. This is the first such criminal whose social media posts were NOT scrubbed by the Feds before they released his name. In other words, they WANT you to see those social media posts.

2. It's another failure of the Secret Service and this time they admit that President Trump is getting substandard protection.

3. An AK-type weapon? Looks like a Norinco SKS. That's weird.

4. The cops did a felony stop on him and they didn't kill him? Their restraint is unusual.

5. Ryan Wesley Routh is supposedly a Nikki Haley supporter? Like she attracts militant types to her campaigns? I'm sorry but on behalf of everyone allow me to say, Huh?

It smells. Bad.
Not an SKS, not even close, plus SKS uses stripper clips to load not magazines. Otherwise though I would say you are spot on.

I am waiting for Brandon Herrera, The AK Guy, to do a you tube vid on this particular model AK and why it was a stupid choice.

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wow! $1200 dollars a month to fight and die in Ukraine? How could anyone turn down such a powerful monetary incentive! As far as who is funding it? My guess would be no one, if you are dumb enough to go you shouldn’t be surprised when you don’t get paid.

Think even McDonald's pays more.

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What?

There are reagents that can pick off a date of rubbed thin Buffalo Nickel.  I don't believe that the number can be fully obliterated, with proper forensics technique.

Unless he really boogered it up, like with a drill.

I think that’s mostly light sensors, which would be less destructive, and also I think show higher density which reveals the original etch.

From what I’ve seen watching forensic shows for ages as long as the metal etch site in general is not totally destroyed, the number can be ascertained.
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https://twitter.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1835740808462356909

This is akin to a rape victim being blamed for what she wore.

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BREAKING: Trump expected to meet with Acting Secret Service today at the Mar-a-Lago.

What do you think will happen?
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BREAKING: Trump expected to meet with Acting Secret Service today at the Mar-a-Lago.

What do you think will happen?

Like asking how did a shooter know where I was despite it not being on the press calendar.   :pondering:
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Like asking how did a shooter know where I was despite it not being on the press calendar.   :pondering:

This is the point to be pressed. How did the shooter know? Who in this administration is leaking info on where Trump is to shooters that they are obviously coordinating with?
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This is the point to be pressed. How did the shooter know? Who in this administration is leaking info on where Trump is to shooters that they are obviously coordinating with?

Just a thought ..... Someone within his SS leaking info to perhaps someone who isn't immediately within the current CIA, FBI -- but perhaps someone with former ties. Who hates Trump that much and might still have those connections?

Let's face it, Trump has enemies on both sides of the aisle.

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Just a thought ..... Someone within his SS leaking info to perhaps someone who isn't immediately within the current CIA, FBI -- but perhaps someone with former ties. Who hates Trump that much and might still have those connections?

Let's face it, Trump has enemies on both sides of the aisle.

Looks like he was there for up to 12 hours. Which begs the question - were there multiple shooters at places he was likely to go to so that one of them had a chance to take a shot at him?

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Think even McDonald's pays more.
Here in Commiefornia it’s $20 an hour so potentially $3200 gross….for Friggin unskilled labor, and I know of what I speak!

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Looks like he was there for up to 12 hours. Which begs the question - were there multiple shooters at places he was likely to go to so that one of them had a chance to take a shot at him?

Quite likely. Still, the question remains how did he (they) know what course Trump was playing and the time and for him to hide out for 12 hours? That's a long time for him not to be spotted much sooner.

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Then why did he get caught so easily, even before carrying out his mission, and even left his stuff behind?
Maybe he's another patsy, and without him cutting loose, the 'pro' couldn't take the shot and went to ground.
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What?

There are reagents that can pick off a date of rubbed thin Buffalo Nickel.  I don't believe that the number can be fully obliterated, with proper forensics technique.

Unless he really boogered it up, like with a drill.
Yeah, a little nitric acid works wonders... If they can't retrieve the number, either he did a bang-up job of buggering it up, or they don't want to.
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BREAKING REPORT: FBI to LEAD investigation into the ass*ssination attempt of President Trump..

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