Trump taken to safety after Secret Service opens fire on man at DJT's Palm Beach golf course

[Smokin Joe]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1835781351800463417

IIRC, the serial number on an SKS appears in a few places:

Original wooden stock
Receiver
Operating Handle
Bolt
Gas Tube

...and others, depending on country  of origin and manufacturer.

I had to check (was going from memory, it's been 10 years or more since I field stripped and cleaned one), so source: http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=135957.0

[corbe]

   Trump is just the destruction of this Country without taking Steroids, Comealot is with Steroids.  Either way we're getting further from our ability to recover.

[Right_in_Virginia]

[jmyrlefuller]

We either stand together now and stand up against the evil that keeps trying to prevail in this country or we lose our Republic.  I have absolutely no doubt.  None whatsoever.

*sigh*

For the umpteenth time, the Republic is, and has been, dead. If it weren't, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now.

[mystery-ak]

Biden and Trump have 'very nice call'

President Biden and former President Donald Trump had a "very nice call" Monday afternoon, Trump said one day after surviving an assassination attempt in Florida.

"We had a very nice call. It was about Secret Service protection," Trump told CNN — after Biden told reporters earlier in the day he had tried to reach the GOP presidential nominee without success.

The White House said in a statement released around 6 p.m. that Biden "just spoke with former President Trump, and conveyed his relief that he is safe."

"The two shared a cordial conversation and former President Trump expressed his thanks for the call," the White House said.

Trump on Monday morning directly blamed Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris for allegedly inspiring the suspect, Ryan Routh, with their fiery rhetoric about democracy being at stake in the Nov. 5 election.

Biden also spoke on the phone with Trump on the night of July 13 after he was grazed by a bullet at a Pennsylvania rally.


NYPost

[libertybele]

   Trump is just the destruction of this Country without taking Steroids, Comealot is with Steroids.  Either way we're getting further from our ability to recover.

@corbe  Yes there is no doubt the spending spree needs to stop I get that, but think of what a Harris administration is going to do to our Bill of Rights  --- she's hell bent on completing Obammy's agenda.

She admittedly is coming after our guns ....Glen Beck today mentioned that everyone needs to prepare for what's to come under Harris. I didn't listen to his whole program but he did mention that he lost all of his guns and ammo in a boating accident....suggested The Byrna which is legal in all states and would give ordinary citizens the ability to disarm, disable and deter a would-be assailant without causing permanent injury or death, in order to give them and their family time to get out of harm’s way. They are pricey -- but the point is they are legal -- of course not a match for a lethal weapon.

Frankly she scares the living crappola out of me.

[libertybele]

*sigh*

For the umpteenth time, the Republic is, and has been, dead. If it weren't, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now.

-sigh-  as another poster mentioned--  with Trump we may live to see another day -- Harris-- not plausible.

[Smokin Joe]

@corbe  Yes there is no doubt the spending spree needs to stop I get that, but think of what a Harris administration is going to do to our Bill of Rights  --- she's hell bent on completing Obammy's agenda.

She admittedly is coming after our guns ....Glen Beck today mentioned that everyone needs to prepare for what's to come under Harris. I didn't listen to his whole program but he did mention that he lost all of his guns and ammo in a boating accident....suggested The Byrna which is legal in all states and would give ordinary citizens the ability to disarm, disable and deter a would-be assailant without causing permanent injury or death, in order to give them and their family time to get out of harm’s way. They are pricey -- but the point is they are legal -- of course not a match for a lethal weapon.

Frankly she scares the living crappola out of me.

I am with you. She and Walz are a real threat to us all.

[libertybele]

I mentioned in a post up thread about the Byrna -- however, in looking at the products further some states do have shipping restrictions; IL, MA, MI NY, NJ, OR, PR, DC, WI

https://byrna.com/collections/byrna-non-lethal-guns

[Elderberry]

@corbe  Yes there is no doubt the spending spree needs to stop I get that, but think of what a Harris administration is going to do to our Bill of Rights  --- she's hell bent on completing Obammy's agenda.

She admittedly is coming after our guns ....Glen Beck today mentioned that everyone needs to prepare for what's to come under Harris. I didn't listen to his whole program but he did mention that he lost all of his guns and ammo in a boating accident....suggested The Byrna which is legal in all states and would give ordinary citizens the ability to disarm, disable and deter a would-be assailant without causing permanent injury or death, in order to give them and their family time to get out of harm’s way. They are pricey -- but the point is they are legal -- of course not a match for a lethal weapon.

Frankly she scares the living crappola out of me.

If the U.S government decided to confiscate all firearms from the people, would the police and military go along with it?

Quora

https://www.quora.com/If-the-U-S-government-decided-to-confiscate-all-firearms-from-the-people-would-the-police-and-military-go-along-with-it

Rob Bell
Lives in The United States of AmericaAuthor has 11.6K answers and 1.8M answer views3y

No chance. Do you know how many would get shot trying to do this?

As a police officer, I’d never enforce this. It doesn’t bother me that people have guns (legally obtained). I can only think of one incident where a legal gun owner (having a mental breakdown) was a problem.

The military couldn’t be used for this anyway.

Jim B Cooper
Street Crimes/narcotics/Maj. Crimes/SWAT at The United States of America (2004–present)Upvoted by
Robert Chalmers
, former Medic at U.S. Army (1980-1997)Author has 2.5K answers and 2.5M answer views
 · 3y
Originally Answered: How would the U.S. military and police actually react to orders to disarm all civilians by force if necessary?

First the Military, as others have pointed out, won’t operate on US soil to enforce domestic law. Disarming the citizens is against the constitution so that’s a problem as well. All service members swear to uphold the constitution and have provisions for refusing unlawful commands.

Law enforcement is in a similar realm. We swore to uphold the constitution and disarming lawful citizens is against the constitution. We also have provisions for refusing unlawful commands.

Sure there are a few agencies who for whatever political reasons that would “try” but they will be completely ineffective.

[Texas Yellow Rose]

https://twitter.com/LarryOConnor/status/1835711576650940796

Great video.  Thanks for sharing!!

[240B]

[mountaineer]

Pamela Geller quotes Mark Steyn:

... But there’s a few things that strike me as curiouser than they should be:

~First up, the last-minute change in the Republican nominee’s schedule. The alleged perp was outside the Trump International Golf Club for twelve hours, which was long enough to figure out the most vulnerable spot: the hole closest to the exterior fence.

And yet the golf game was not on the candidate’s official schedule, and was a comparatively last-minute addition. So how did Mr Routh find out about it? The unusually long motorcade arriving at the club? No. The would-be killer was on site hours before Trump – from 1.59am on Sunday, apparently. How did he know his target would be headed his way? Per the Secret Service, at suddenly scheduled events such as yesterday’s the security is more ad hoc and improvised than at, say, a rally in Pennsylvania, and therefore the candidate is potentially more vulnerable.

So again: How did the alleged perp know to case the joint at two in the morning?

London’s Daily Mail, if not yet The New York Times, The Washington Post or any other American paper, is considering the possibility that he was tipped off by a “mole” within the Secret Service. If that sounds like an old Austin Powers gag, well, yes, but merged with the beloved horror-movie trope: the calls for assassination are coming from inside the house.

The best-case scenario for the USSS is that they’re totally incompetent: it’s just about possible to explain Butler, PA that way. It cannot easily be stretched to cover what happened at West Palm Beach. ...

More at Geller Report

He also talks about "North Carolina construction worker" Routh's curious access to government officials in Ukraine and Washington, D.C.

[Smokin Joe]

There is a bunch here that just does not flange up.
 
The likelihood of a mole in the security detail fits hand-in-glove with speculation about the abject failure of security in Butler PA, and only adds to speculation that somewhere in the Federal Apparatus someone is sanctioning a hit on the former president.

The inflammatory rhetoric issuing from many (mostly Democrats) in the government and their legacy media propaganda outlets only bolsters that idea.

[mountaineer]

Mario Nawfal
@MarioNawfal
🇺🇸FBI AND CBP IGNORED WARNINGS ABOUT TRUMP’S WOULD-BE ASSASSIN

Chelsea Walsh, a nurse who had several encounters with Ryan Wesley Routh in Kyiv, said his threats of violence worried her so much that she conveyed her concerns to a Customs and Border Protection officer on her return to the U.S in June 2022.

She told them that Routh was among the most dangerous Americans she met during her month-and-a-half-long stint in Ukraine. He talked about wanting to kill Putin and Kim Jong Un and had mentioned Trump and Biden, though Walsh couldn’t recall if he threatened them.

When she heard in 2023 that Routh was attempting to recruit Syrian refugees to fight in Ukraine, she filed an online report with the FBI and Interpol outlining her concerns about him. Throughout the whole time, neither Customs nor the FBI followed up with her.

Source: WSJ
6:15 AM · Sep 17, 2024

[Smokin Joe]

Mario Nawfal
@MarioNawfal
🇺🇸FBI AND CBP IGNORED WARNINGS ABOUT TRUMP’S WOULD-BE ASSASSIN

Chelsea Walsh, a nurse who had several encounters with Ryan Wesley Routh in Kyiv, said his threats of violence worried her so much that she conveyed her concerns to a Customs and Border Protection officer on her return to the U.S in June 2022.

She told them that Routh was among the most dangerous Americans she met during her month-and-a-half-long stint in Ukraine. He talked about wanting to kill Putin and Kim Jong Un and had mentioned Trump and Biden, though Walsh couldn’t recall if he threatened them.

When she heard in 2023 that Routh was attempting to recruit Syrian refugees to fight in Ukraine, she filed an online report with the FBI and Interpol outlining her concerns about him. Throughout the whole time, neither Customs nor the FBI followed up with her.

Source: WSJ
6:15 AM · Sep 17, 2024

I guess the question is: Did they follow up with him?

(Sounds like a ready-made patsy.)

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I am glad DeSantis is conducting an investigation.

Provides another reason for Florida to conduct the investigation.

Erik Prince on Trump Assassins Appearing in BlackRock Commercials, “The Statistical Likelihood of that Being Random Is Impossible” by Jim Hoft Sep. 17, 2024

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/erik-prince-trump-assassins-appearing-blackwater-commercials-statistical/

[catfish1957]

Dying to know how a failed NC roofer is able to jet set around the world including Ukraine, and own a home in Hawaii.

Have you ever priced a home over there?  You can't even get a shack on postage sized lot for under $1M.

Follow the money.........

[libertybele]

There is a bunch here that just does not flange up.
 
The likelihood of a mole in the security detail fits hand-in-glove with speculation about the abject failure of security in Butler PA, and only adds to speculation that somewhere in the Federal Apparatus someone is sanctioning a hit on the former president.

The inflammatory rhetoric issuing from many (mostly Democrats) in the government and their legacy media propaganda outlets only bolsters that idea.

I mentioned this before, sure there is a mole, but who is he/she reporting to?  Could it likely be someone who is ex-FBI, or ex-CIA? Someone who hates Trump enough that their goal is to take Trump out?

[mystery-ak]

Democrat Sen. Chris Murphy After Sunday’s Assassination Attempt: Trump Is the One Inspiring ‘Political Violence’

Sen. Chris Murphy reacted to the assassination attempt on Donald Trump by claiming Trump himself is the one inspiring “political violence.”

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2024/09/17/sen-chris-murphy-sundays-assassination-attempt-trump-the-one-inspiring-political-violence/

[GtHawk]

I guess the question is: Did they follow up with him?

(Sounds like a ready-made patsy.)

They were no doubt grooming him for years precisely for situation like this.

[MeganC]

Pamela Geller quotes Mark Steyn:

"First up, the last-minute change in the Republican nominee’s schedule."

I suspect that this was not a 'last minute change' but instead an undisclosed and planned event.

It would make sense to do something like this as an undisclosed event for security reasons. Yet the question remains as to how Routh knew about it.

[Cyber Liberty]

I suspect that this was not a 'last minute change' but instead an undisclosed and planned event.

It would make sense to do something like this as an undisclosed event for security reasons. Yet the question remains as to how Routh knew about it.

The word on the Twitter Streets is that Homeland Security leaked it to the FBI, and the FBI told Routh when and where to be.

[Kamaji]

Democrat Sen. Chris Murphy After Sunday’s Assassination Attempt: Trump Is the One Inspiring ‘Political Violence’

Sen. Chris Murphy reacted to the assassination attempt on Donald Trump by claiming Trump himself is the one inspiring “political violence.”

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2024/09/17/sen-chris-murphy-sundays-assassination-attempt-trump-the-one-inspiring-political-violence/

Bull-effing-shit.

[PeteS in CA]

Is it known that Routh knew Trump was going to play golf that day? Consider this alternative:

1. Routh knew from news and the Trump-Hating commentariat that Trump usually played golf whenever he was at MaL;

2. Routh knew from the news that Trump would be at MaL that weekend;

3. Routh knew from Google Maps and Satellite View where he could lie in wait, plus or minus driving by to scout it out from ground level;

4. Routh decided to lie in wait during daylight hours for as many days as it would take to get a shooting opportunity (was Routh there the previous day?);

5. Routh almost got his opportunity, after lying in wait some 12 hours.

Re my point 3 above, the Secret Service has known about the security risk of that publicly accessible fence line and bushes for years, probably since 2016. Whether laziness or complacency, the Secret Service didn't patrol the the fence line before Trump went out, nor did they check it with a thermal camera.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/GrahamAllen_1/status/1836186924509225305

[the OlLine Rebel]

Is it known that Routh knew Trump was going to play golf that day? Consider this alternative:

1. Routh knew from news and the Trump-Hating commentariat that Trump usually played golf whenever he was at MaL;

2. Routh knew from the news that Trump would be at MaL that weekend;

3. Routh knew from Google Maps and Satellite View where he could lie in wait, plus or minus driving by to scout it out from ground level;

4. Routh decided to lie in wait during daylight hours for as many days as it would take to get a shooting opportunity (was Routh there the previous day?);

5. Routh almost got his opportunity, after lying in wait some 12 hours.

Re my point 3 above, the Secret Service has known about the security risk of that publicly accessible fence line and bushes for years, probably since 2016. Whether laziness or complacency, the Secret Service didn't patrol the the fence line before Trump went out, nor did they check it with a thermal camera.

You’re correct, I see no reason to think this is some conspiracy.  There MIGHT be a leak, but ther can just as well be a good chance that he could catch Trump in a good spot.

[catfish1957]

You’re correct, I see no reason to think this is some conspiracy.  There MIGHT be a leak, but ther can just as well be a good chance that he could catch Trump in a good spot.

Failed roofing business....  And still.....

Has a home in Hawaii
Rubbed elbows with Ukranian big wigs.
Contact with Afghan Merceraries
High Profile, with several contacts with MSM (Per Watters tonight)

Might not be a conspiracy, but lots of smoke of suspicion.

[mountaineer]

Failed roofing business....  And still.....

Has a home in Hawaii
Rubbed elbows with Ukranian big wigs.
Contact with Afghan Merceraries
High Profile, with several contacts with MSM (Per Watters tonight)

Might not be a conspiracy, but lots of smoke of suspicion.

Seems to have done a lot of international travel. Airfare isn't cheap. Who funded his activities?

[Smokin Joe]

I suspect that this was not a 'last minute change' but instead an undisclosed and planned event.

It would make sense to do something like this as an undisclosed event for security reasons. Yet the question remains as to how Routh knew about it.

It only had to be mentioned the night before for the parts to fall, however rapidly into place. Which means the shooter had to be 'on call', and someone called him. Backtrack the cell phones and see just who dropped the dime, just in case a burner wasn't involved. Geolocate them as well and see who might have met in person.

[Smokin Joe]

Seems to have done a lot of international travel. Airfare isn't cheap. Who funded his activities?

Lots of visas for a felon...is he?

[mystery-ak]

‘Wanted To Kill Most World Leaders’: Nurse Who Alerted Authorities About Trump Gunman Reveals Disturbing Past Behavior


Mariane Angela
News Reporter
September 17, 2024 10:26 PM ET


A nurse revealed Tuesday details about the violent tendencies of Ryan Wesley Routh, who is accused of plotting to assassinate former President Donald Trump on Sunday at the Trump National Golf Club in West Palm Beach, Florida.

Chelsea Walsh engaged in humanitarian efforts in Ukraine when she met Routh, according to Fox 29, a Florida-based outlet. During an appearance on Jesse Watters’ “Primetime,” Walsh claimed she noticed his volatile tendencies and felt professionally obligated to report him, as she is a trained mandated reporter skilled in identifying threats.


https://rumble.com/embed/v5d1m6d/?pub=4

more
https://dailycaller.com/2024/09/17/world-leaders-nurse-chelsea-walsh-trump-gunman/

[catfish1957]

Lots of visas for a felon...is he?

Another good catch, of things that make say hmmmmmmm.

I think the odds that Routh had some kind of dem connection is pretty high.

[bigheadfred]

DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
·
3m
Police have found explosives in a parked car near Trump’s rally in New York City

A K9 dog found it on this morning’s sweep before the event

Thousands of people are already in the area

This is the 3rd assassination attempt against Trump in 2 months

[rangerrebew]

Sheriff Suggests "Ominous... Conspiracy" Behind Trump Assassination Attempt
 
by Tyler Durden
Monday, Sep 16, 2024 - 02:25 PM
Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Modernity.news,

Martin County Sheriff Will Snyder suggested there may be an “ominous” wider “conspiracy” at play regarding yesterday’s suspect in the attempted assassination of Trump given that the gunman appeared to know Trump’s private schedule.

Ryan Wesley Routh appeared to know that Trump was playing golf at a Florida resort despite this not being public knowledge and the decision to play being last minute.

“To my knowledge does he have any ties to Martin County? The answer is no…I think what we’re finding out is he’s not from this area, which of course raises the bigger question is how does a guy from not here get all the way to Trump International, realize that the former president of the United States is golfing and is able to get a rifle in that vicinity,” commented Snyder.

“Is this guy part of a conspiracy? Is he a lone gunman? If he’s a lone gunman, President Trump is that much safer because we have him. But if he’s part of a conspiracy then this whole thing really takes on a very ominous tone,” added the Sheriff.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sheriff-suggests-ominous-conspiracy-behind-trump-assassination-attempt

[Ghost Bear]

DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
·
3m
Police have found explosives in a parked car near Trump’s rally in New York City

A K9 dog found it on this morning’s sweep before the event

Thousands of people are already in the area

This is the 3rd assassination attempt against Trump in 2 months

I'm beginning to think we should just have a sticky thread for the "Trump Assassination Attempt of the Week".

I would say that I'm kidding, but I don't think the Leftists are going to stop anytime soon.

[Kamaji]

DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
·
3m
Police have found explosives in a parked car near Trump’s rally in New York City

A K9 dog found it on this morning’s sweep before the event

Thousands of people are already in the area

This is the 3rd assassination attempt against Trump in 2 months

Nassau county police saying there was an incident, but no explosive device found:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13864849/Cops-explosives-car-near-Trump-rally-Long-Island-second-assassination-attempt.html

[bigheadfred]

DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
UPDATE: Apparently the explosives found at the Trump rally were being used to help
train a bomb sniffing dog and are not a threat

Nassau County Police Commissioner says:

“Reports of explosives being found at the site are unfounded. There is a person who is being questioned who may have been training a bomb detection dog near the site," said Commissioner of Police Patrick Ryder.

@Kamaji

[bigheadfred]

DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
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5m
Replying to
@DC_Draino
Why are they questioning someone who brought explosives to help train a bomb dog?

Wouldn’t they know who is doing bomb detection?

This is strange

[DefiantMassRINO]

... a conspiracy between the mentally ill, the voices in their heads, and political language that stochastically inspires individuals to "fight" "threats" by "any means necessary".     (The voices in their heads whisper "You know what needs to be done.")

[mountaineer]

[Smokin Joe]

Somehow Routh found out about an unscheduled golf outing in time to be on site 12 hours before trump would have played through.

He had to have been tipped off by someone on the inside of the security operation or on trump's staff, or by the people they report to, in order to have enough time to get his kit together and be there set up before dawn.

That stinks on ice.

[Mod2]

Topics merged

[Ghost Bear]

Somehow Routh found out about an unscheduled golf outing in time to be on site 12 hours before trump would have played through.

He had to have been tipped off by someone on the inside of the security operation or on trump's staff, or by the people they report to, in order to have enough time to get his kit together and be there set up before dawn.

That stinks on ice.

I disagree. If he was actually there for 12 hours, then I think it was unlikely that he was tipped off. If he was there for 12 hours, I think it more likely that he saw it was a nice day, thought that Trump may decide to go golfing, went to the golf course and set up his spot to wait and see if Trump showed up.

If he had set up his spot an hour or so before Trump would get to that hole, then I would suspect he was tipped off. If he was waiting a long time, then I think it more likely he was just taking a chance.

[Hoodat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D49nT36KSr0

[bigheadfred]

I disagree. If he was actually there for 12 hours, then I think it was unlikely that he was tipped off. If he was there for 12 hours, I think it more likely that he saw it was a nice day, thought that Trump may decide to go golfing, went to the golf course and set up his spot to wait and see if Trump showed up.

If he had set up his spot an hour or so before Trump would get to that hole, then I would suspect he was tipped off. If he was waiting a long time, then I think it more likely he was just taking a chance.

I agree with that assessment. I don't know if they can really track his past movements. He may have tried this more than once.

[Cyber Liberty]

I disagree. If he was actually there for 12 hours, then I think it was unlikely that he was tipped off. If he was there for 12 hours, I think it more likely that he saw it was a nice day, thought that Trump may decide to go golfing, went to the golf course and set up his spot to wait and see if Trump showed up.

If he had set up his spot an hour or so before Trump would get to that hole, then I would suspect he was tipped off. If he was waiting a long time, then I think it more likely he was just taking a chance.

We only know a cell phone was there for 12 hours, not necessarily the potential shooter.

[libertybele]

I'm beginning to think we should just have a sticky thread for the "Trump Assassination Attempt of the Week".

I would say that I'm kidding, but I don't think the Leftists are going to stop anytime soon.

No the whacko leftists aren't going to stop and the continued lunacy that DJT is a threat to demoracy needs to stop.  This is coming from people like Hillary, and she has the audacity to call conservatives, deplorables.  Who are the deplorables?  MSM and leftists!

[corbe]

Photos: Failed Trump assassin's vantage point was no secret – paparazzi have staked out tree line for years

By Michael Ruiz and Julia Bonavita Published  September 17, 2024 11:51am EDT

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/photos-failed-trump-assassination-attempt-vantage-point-golf-course-florida

[Ghost Bear]

I agree with that assessment. I don't know if they can really track his past movements. He may have tried this more than once.

I was thinking that also. For all we know, he may have been going to the golf course regularly on the weekends, trying to find his opportunity.