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Biden and Trump have 'very nice call'

President Biden and former President Donald Trump had a "very nice call" Monday afternoon, Trump said one day after surviving an assassination attempt in Florida.

"We had a very nice call. It was about Secret Service protection," Trump told CNN — after Biden told reporters earlier in the day he had tried to reach the GOP presidential nominee without success.

The White House said in a statement released around 6 p.m. that Biden "just spoke with former President Trump, and conveyed his relief that he is safe."

"The two shared a cordial conversation and former President Trump expressed his thanks for the call," the White House said.

Trump on Monday morning directly blamed Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris for allegedly inspiring the suspect, Ryan Routh, with their fiery rhetoric about democracy being at stake in the Nov. 5 election.

Biden also spoke on the phone with Trump on the night of July 13 after he was grazed by a bullet at a Pennsylvania rally.


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   Trump is just the destruction of this Country without taking Steroids, Comealot is with Steroids.  Either way we're getting further from our ability to recover.

@corbe  Yes there is no doubt the spending spree needs to stop I get that, but think of what a Harris administration is going to do to our Bill of Rights  --- she's hell bent on completing Obammy's agenda.

She admittedly is coming after our guns ....Glen Beck today mentioned that everyone needs to prepare for what's to come under Harris. I didn't listen to his whole program but he did mention that he lost all of his guns and ammo in a boating accident....suggested The Byrna which is legal in all states and would give ordinary citizens the ability to disarm, disable and deter a would-be assailant without causing permanent injury or death, in order to give them and their family time to get out of harm’s way. They are pricey -- but the point is they are legal -- of course not a match for a lethal weapon.

Frankly she scares the living crappola out of me.



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*sigh*

For the umpteenth time, the Republic is, and has been, dead. If it weren't, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now.

-sigh-  as another poster mentioned--  with Trump we may live to see another day -- Harris-- not plausible.

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@corbe  Yes there is no doubt the spending spree needs to stop I get that, but think of what a Harris administration is going to do to our Bill of Rights  --- she's hell bent on completing Obammy's agenda.

She admittedly is coming after our guns ....Glen Beck today mentioned that everyone needs to prepare for what's to come under Harris. I didn't listen to his whole program but he did mention that he lost all of his guns and ammo in a boating accident....suggested The Byrna which is legal in all states and would give ordinary citizens the ability to disarm, disable and deter a would-be assailant without causing permanent injury or death, in order to give them and their family time to get out of harm’s way. They are pricey -- but the point is they are legal -- of course not a match for a lethal weapon.

Frankly she scares the living crappola out of me.
I am with you. She and Walz are a real threat to us all.
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I mentioned in a post up thread about the Byrna -- however, in looking at the products further some states do have shipping restrictions; IL, MA, MI NY, NJ, OR, PR, DC, WI

https://byrna.com/collections/byrna-non-lethal-guns

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@corbe  Yes there is no doubt the spending spree needs to stop I get that, but think of what a Harris administration is going to do to our Bill of Rights  --- she's hell bent on completing Obammy's agenda.

She admittedly is coming after our guns ....Glen Beck today mentioned that everyone needs to prepare for what's to come under Harris. I didn't listen to his whole program but he did mention that he lost all of his guns and ammo in a boating accident....suggested The Byrna which is legal in all states and would give ordinary citizens the ability to disarm, disable and deter a would-be assailant without causing permanent injury or death, in order to give them and their family time to get out of harm’s way. They are pricey -- but the point is they are legal -- of course not a match for a lethal weapon.

Frankly she scares the living crappola out of me.

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No chance. Do you know how many would get shot trying to do this?

As a police officer, I’d never enforce this. It doesn’t bother me that people have guns (legally obtained). I can only think of one incident where a legal gun owner (having a mental breakdown) was a problem.

The military couldn’t be used for this anyway.

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Originally Answered: How would the U.S. military and police actually react to orders to disarm all civilians by force if necessary?

First the Military, as others have pointed out, won’t operate on US soil to enforce domestic law. Disarming the citizens is against the constitution so that’s a problem as well. All service members swear to uphold the constitution and have provisions for refusing unlawful commands.

Law enforcement is in a similar realm. We swore to uphold the constitution and disarming lawful citizens is against the constitution. We also have provisions for refusing unlawful commands.

Sure there are a few agencies who for whatever political reasons that would “try” but they will be completely ineffective.


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Pamela Geller quotes Mark Steyn:
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... But there’s a few things that strike me as curiouser than they should be:

~First up, the last-minute change in the Republican nominee’s schedule. The alleged perp was outside the Trump International Golf Club for twelve hours, which was long enough to figure out the most vulnerable spot: the hole closest to the exterior fence.

And yet the golf game was not on the candidate’s official schedule, and was a comparatively last-minute addition. So how did Mr Routh find out about it? The unusually long motorcade arriving at the club? No. The would-be killer was on site hours before Trump – from 1.59am on Sunday, apparently. How did he know his target would be headed his way? Per the Secret Service, at suddenly scheduled events such as yesterday’s the security is more ad hoc and improvised than at, say, a rally in Pennsylvania, and therefore the candidate is potentially more vulnerable.

So again: How did the alleged perp know to case the joint at two in the morning?

London’s Daily Mail, if not yet The New York Times, The Washington Post or any other American paper, is considering the possibility that he was tipped off by a “mole” within the Secret Service. If that sounds like an old Austin Powers gag, well, yes, but merged with the beloved horror-movie trope: the calls for assassination are coming from inside the house.

The best-case scenario for the USSS is that they’re totally incompetent: it’s just about possible to explain Butler, PA that way. It cannot easily be stretched to cover what happened at West Palm Beach. ...
More at Geller Report

He also talks about "North Carolina construction worker" Routh's curious access to government officials in Ukraine and Washington, D.C.
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The likelihood of a mole in the security detail fits hand-in-glove with speculation about the abject failure of security in Butler PA, and only adds to speculation that somewhere in the Federal Apparatus someone is sanctioning a hit on the former president.

The inflammatory rhetoric issuing from many (mostly Democrats) in the government and their legacy media propaganda outlets only bolsters that idea.
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🇺🇸FBI AND CBP IGNORED WARNINGS ABOUT TRUMP’S WOULD-BE ASSASSIN

Chelsea Walsh, a nurse who had several encounters with Ryan Wesley Routh in Kyiv, said his threats of violence worried her so much that she conveyed her concerns to a Customs and Border Protection officer on her return to the U.S in June 2022.

She told them that Routh was among the most dangerous Americans she met during her month-and-a-half-long stint in Ukraine. He talked about wanting to kill Putin and Kim Jong Un and had mentioned Trump and Biden, though Walsh couldn’t recall if he threatened them.

When she heard in 2023 that Routh was attempting to recruit Syrian refugees to fight in Ukraine, she filed an online report with the FBI and Interpol outlining her concerns about him. Throughout the whole time, neither Customs nor the FBI followed up with her.

Source: WSJ
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🇺🇸FBI AND CBP IGNORED WARNINGS ABOUT TRUMP’S WOULD-BE ASSASSIN

Chelsea Walsh, a nurse who had several encounters with Ryan Wesley Routh in Kyiv, said his threats of violence worried her so much that she conveyed her concerns to a Customs and Border Protection officer on her return to the U.S in June 2022.

She told them that Routh was among the most dangerous Americans she met during her month-and-a-half-long stint in Ukraine. He talked about wanting to kill Putin and Kim Jong Un and had mentioned Trump and Biden, though Walsh couldn’t recall if he threatened them.

When she heard in 2023 that Routh was attempting to recruit Syrian refugees to fight in Ukraine, she filed an online report with the FBI and Interpol outlining her concerns about him. Throughout the whole time, neither Customs nor the FBI followed up with her.

Source: WSJ
6:15 AM · Sep 17, 2024
I guess the question is: Did they follow up with him?

(Sounds like a ready-made patsy.)
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Have you ever priced a home over there?  You can't even get a shack on postage sized lot for under $1M.

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The likelihood of a mole in the security detail fits hand-in-glove with speculation about the abject failure of security in Butler PA, and only adds to speculation that somewhere in the Federal Apparatus someone is sanctioning a hit on the former president.

The inflammatory rhetoric issuing from many (mostly Democrats) in the government and their legacy media propaganda outlets only bolsters that idea.

I mentioned this before, sure there is a mole, but who is he/she reporting to?  Could it likely be someone who is ex-FBI, or ex-CIA? Someone who hates Trump enough that their goal is to take Trump out?

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Democrat Sen. Chris Murphy After Sunday’s Assassination Attempt: Trump Is the One Inspiring ‘Political Violence’

Sen. Chris Murphy reacted to the assassination attempt on Donald Trump by claiming Trump himself is the one inspiring “political violence.”

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2024/09/17/sen-chris-murphy-sundays-assassination-attempt-trump-the-one-inspiring-political-violence/
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I guess the question is: Did they follow up with him?

(Sounds like a ready-made patsy.)
They were no doubt grooming him for years precisely for situation like this.

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Pamela Geller quotes Mark Steyn:

"First up, the last-minute change in the Republican nominee’s schedule."

I suspect that this was not a 'last minute change' but instead an undisclosed and planned event.

It would make sense to do something like this as an undisclosed event for security reasons. Yet the question remains as to how Routh knew about it.
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I suspect that this was not a 'last minute change' but instead an undisclosed and planned event.

It would make sense to do something like this as an undisclosed event for security reasons. Yet the question remains as to how Routh knew about it.

The word on the Twitter Streets is that Homeland Security leaked it to the FBI, and the FBI told Routh when and where to be.
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Democrat Sen. Chris Murphy After Sunday’s Assassination Attempt: Trump Is the One Inspiring ‘Political Violence’

Sen. Chris Murphy reacted to the assassination attempt on Donald Trump by claiming Trump himself is the one inspiring “political violence.”

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2024/09/17/sen-chris-murphy-sundays-assassination-attempt-trump-the-one-inspiring-political-violence/

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Is it known that Routh knew Trump was going to play golf that day? Consider this alternative:

1. Routh knew from news and the Trump-Hating commentariat that Trump usually played golf whenever he was at MaL;

2. Routh knew from the news that Trump would be at MaL that weekend;

3. Routh knew from Google Maps and Satellite View where he could lie in wait, plus or minus driving by to scout it out from ground level;

4. Routh decided to lie in wait during daylight hours for as many days as it would take to get a shooting opportunity (was Routh there the previous day?);

5. Routh almost got his opportunity, after lying in wait some 12 hours.

Re my point 3 above, the Secret Service has known about the security risk of that publicly accessible fence line and bushes for years, probably since 2016. Whether laziness or complacency, the Secret Service didn't patrol the the fence line before Trump went out, nor did they check it with a thermal camera.
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