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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1025 on: August 04, 2024, 01:07:33 pm »
Kamala is not the only one to produce word salad. Meaningless bureau-babble answers that do not answer the question (what would have been called "bullshitting" on a college exam) qualify, too.
My suspicions turn toward elements from the three letter intelligence and investigative agencies, and Secret Service more than Kamala, and the people pulling her strings conspiring to make the event happen, insofar as they could control the situation.
Trump's off-script and unanticipated physical movement thwarted that.
Agreed.  I anticipate that 'they' will try again.

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« Reply #1026 on: August 05, 2024, 12:47:25 am »
Agreed.  I anticipate that 'they' will try again.
Likely as he campaigns, almost certainly if he beats the steal and wins.
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« Reply #1027 on: August 05, 2024, 01:05:53 pm »
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« Reply #1028 on: August 06, 2024, 07:47:46 am »
Another of our exchanges between SneakyPete and myself.

I find it interesting.


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Quote from: jafo2010 on January 31, 2024, 06:47:44 pm
I agree completely.  Fact is, leadership and much of the Democrats have gone full blown communist.  Their desired goals today are identical to the desires of communists in the 50s and 60s.  And if they could have totalitarian control of the government, they would relish it.  And frankly, I do not believe we are far from that right this minute.

@jafo2010

I agree,and it's all over if Trump isn't elected.

It might be "all over" even  if he is elected because the globalist left (ironically enough all of whom are multi-Billionaires) is NOT going to  give up  on the possibly of "Global Government,Inc" without a fight. Even if Trump is elected,his SS detail needs to be THOROUGHLY checked out to make sure they will all protect him,instead of kill him.

We ain't talking "shoplifting"  here,we are talking about stealing the whole damn world.


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How prophetic!!!  They did try to kill him, but they are conducting the investigation along with the reputable FBI, so guess what, you mushrooms can just stew!  LOL
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1029 on: August 06, 2024, 08:51:25 am »
Sen. Josh Hawley says Secret Service whistleblowers tell him that the lead agent on the Trump Butler job was NOT enforcing the normal security protocols that day and she wasn’t having ID’s checked that day. He describes it as a free-for-all and says as we speak, this lead agent is still doing all her duties on the job. ...

https://twitter.com/RealMacReport/status/1820661167208960130
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« Reply #1030 on: August 06, 2024, 11:59:13 am »
Sen. Josh Hawley says Secret Service whistleblowers tell him that the lead agent on the Trump Butler job was NOT enforcing the normal security protocols that day and she wasn’t having ID’s checked that day. He describes it as a free-for-all and says as we speak, this lead agent is still doing all her duties on the job. ...

https://twitter.com/RealMacReport/status/1820661167208960130

I guess you can be completely incompetent and still keep your job, when you work for the feds.
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« Reply #1031 on: August 06, 2024, 12:08:58 pm »
I guess you can be completely incompetent and still keep your job, when you work for the feds.
As a practical matter, they're completely safe from being fired.
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« Reply #1032 on: August 06, 2024, 12:20:48 pm »
As a practical matter, they're completely safe from being fired.

:yowsa: And that is a REAL problem!
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1033 on: August 06, 2024, 02:26:33 pm »

Secret Service whistleblower makes damning claim about the lead agent during Trump's assassination attempt

DAILYMAIL.COM
By Jon Michael Raasch
6 August 2024

A whistleblower is claiming that the lead Secret Service agent in charge of Donald Trump's deadly Butler, Pennsylvania, rally was 'inexperienced' and 'failed to implement appropriate security protocols.'

The complaint comes weeks after 20-year-old murderer Thomas Matthew Crooks shot Trump from a 'perfect location' in relatively close range to the former president as he spoke at the July 13 campaign rally.

Crooks hit Trump, injuring him and two others, along with fatally wounding firefighter Corey Comperatore.

The shocking new testimony comes from a whistleblower with direct knowledge of the event, according to a letter provided to DailyMail.com from the office of Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo.

Concerned over this lead agent, who is 'still doing protective visits,' Hawley is now demanding in a letter to Secret Service Acting Director Ronald Rowe that the 'ineffective' lead site agent be suspended and investigated immediately.

(more)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13714547/Whistleblowers-claim-senior-Secret-Service-agent-ground-Trump-shooting-inexperienced-incompetent.html
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1034 on: August 06, 2024, 04:41:35 pm »
A 20yr old high school nobody. Managed to out smart the America Secret Service and shot Donald Trump.
The 20 year old nobody was killed seconds after the shot. He has no digital finger print and never did nothing online.

He is a ghost, who knows nobody and never did anything. He is the invisible assassin (patsy).

Look man, when the FEDs come after you offering a big score for a million dollars, you will be killed.
In fact, with the offer made, you are already dead.

Everybody is still counting days until Rowe mysteriously dies or disappears into the nothing. (we all know)
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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1035 on: August 06, 2024, 05:56:40 pm »
A 20yr old high school nobody. Managed to out smart the America Secret Service and shot Donald Trump.
The 20 year old nobody was killed seconds after the shot. He has no digital finger print and never did nothing online.

He is a ghost, who knows nobody and never did anything. He is the invisible assassin (patsy).

Look man, when the FEDs come after you offering a big score for a million dollars, you will be killed.
In fact, with the offer made, you are already dead.

Everybody is still counting days until Rowe mysteriously dies or disappears into the nothing. (we all know)
Maybe they will buy him a government paid for mansion, next to Lois Lerner in Austin Texas.

(FEDs are not very good at 'disappearing' people) That is why Hillary always kills them. She is right, in a very dark and weird way
« Last Edit: August 06, 2024, 06:46:01 pm by 240B »
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1036 on: August 06, 2024, 09:49:24 pm »
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⚠️BREAKING: ANOTHER PERSON WAS JUST CHARGED FOR HELPING TO ORCHESTRATE THE DONALD TRUMP ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT 🚨

STAY TUNED TIME TO BLOW IT ALL UP‼️


https://twitter.com/MattWallace888/status/1820891778700255696

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« Reply #1037 on: August 06, 2024, 10:04:30 pm »
Trump possible target of Pakistani national charged in murder-for-hire plot

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•   A Pakistani national with ties to Iran was charged in a foiled plot to assassinate U.S. government officials on American soil, the Department of Justice said.

•   Former President Donald Trump was one of the potential targets of that plot, a senior law enforcement source told NBC News.

•   Asif Merchant was arrested a day before a gunman narrowly missed killing Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania.

More: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/06/feds-charge-pakistani-national-in-murder-for-hire-plot-against-us-officials-possibly-including-trump.html

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1038 on: August 06, 2024, 10:53:05 pm »
I guess you can be completely incompetent and still keep your job, when you work for the feds.
I applied once to be a weatherman (meteorologist) at the local airport. Federal job, degree required, etc.

I figured it would be neat to have a job where you could be wrong 'most every day and still go to work in the morning!

Nope, I didn't get the job, but that was because my app was returned, looking for civil service exam scores, and they were not required. By the time I sorted that out and re-submitted it, I was told the time for submitting applications had expired.

I never applied for a government job again.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1039 on: August 08, 2024, 03:49:43 pm »
JUST RELEASED via Fox News: Trump assassination attempt bodycam footage showing officer confronting shooter released

https://twitter.com/susancrabtree/status/1821614364442661158

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⁉️ 🚨 This key Butler police bodycam video from 7/13 raises a number of important questions.

Why did the local Butler officer run away from the building and across a field after encountering Crooks, the 7/13 Butler rally shooter, as the officer was trying to climb on the roof?   

I give him credit for being the only officer to attempt to get up there until it was too late -- but running away from an armed shooter on a roof 150 yards from a former president of the United States and a crowd of tens of thousands of people?   

Why didn't anyone else scramble on top of the roof where they KNEW Crooks was? There's a disturbing amount of standing around in this bodycam footage. There were A Lot of highly skilled, armed local police/SWAT teams waiting for orders to go back on that roof. WHY??
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« Reply #1040 on: August 08, 2024, 07:01:29 pm »
The Wall Street Journal has obtained body cam footage of local police complaining that they repeatedly asked the US Secret Service, days in advance, to secure the warehouse that was eventually used by the shooter who attempted to assassinate Trump and killed one man.

Full Story: https://bit.ly/3WCmxVR
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« Reply #1041 on: August 09, 2024, 08:06:25 am »
Excerpt from the article:

Today, shocking new audio and video footage has been released from the day former President Donald Trump was nearly assassinated by Thomas Crooks during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. The footage provides a harrowing glimpse into the chaos that ensued as law enforcement officers attempted to confront the gunman.

Terrifying Encounter Captured on Bodycam

The newly released video comes from the bodycam of a police officer who attempted to reach the rooftop where Crooks was positioned. The footage shows the officer making his way to the roof, only to be confronted by Crooks pointing a gun directly at him. In a moment of sheer terror, the officer quickly retreats, his bodycam capturing his panicked response as he flees back down the stairs.





A handgun is the better weapon for when holding the edge of roof one handed. Why jump down and run back for a rifle?
 Also, out of all those police cars, were there no flash bang grenades? Running back and tossing a few onto the shooter would've suppressed his ability to aim.

https://www.usasupreme.com/local-police-release-new-footage-and-audio-with-a-damning-update-on-the-trump-assassination-attempt/
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1042 on: August 09, 2024, 08:21:28 am »
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« Reply #1043 on: August 09, 2024, 11:51:28 am »
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« Reply #1044 on: August 09, 2024, 12:40:51 pm »
A handgun is the better weapon for when holding the edge of roof one handed. Why jump down and run back for a rifle?
 Also, out of all those police cars, were there no flash bang grenades? Running back and tossing a few onto the shooter would've suppressed his ability to aim.


You're assuming the LEO was full sworn.

This is a crowd control situation, and believe me, that is largely going to be B-Team and volunteers.

Here that'd have been Sheriff's Posse (fan club wannabes) and initiates (young and normally riding with an FTO) Neither one is sworn, so neither one is armed. They are uniformed (Wearin patch, but not badged)and maybe qual'd on a tazer... But they ain't packin much.

There's a lot of vid of sworn, carrying cops running outward - having to get through a fence to get at the building.

So I betcha most of the sworn (real) cops were up in the venue, with the b-team pulling crowd control in the outer ring. That feels right - That's what would happen here.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1045 on: August 11, 2024, 07:27:01 am »
Donald Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks' biggest obsession is revealed with explosive new details

Daily Mail By Katelyn Caralle 8/8/2024

•   New documents reveal Trump's would-be assassin was a 'dietary aide' 

•   Follow along with DailyMail.com's live political coverage

Thomas Matthew Crooks spent copious amounts of time at a nearby gun club as sharpshooting became his profound obsession before he attempted to kill former President Donald Trump.

The would-be assassin visited the range 43 times went to target practice three to six times per month for a year before the assassination plot, according to bombshell new records obtained by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa).

Clairton Sportsmen's Club turned over to Grassley the logs revealing the staggering amount of the time Crooks practiced his sharpshooting before he attempted to kill Trump.

The records obtained by DailyMail.com indicate he spent 80 percent of his time at the range doing rifle practice with long guns rather than handguns.

And the obsession even overshadowed his holidays as he spent Christmas Day, Valentine's Day and Halloween at the club in Clairton, Pennsylvania.

The new information provided to Grassley reveals that Crooks' final visit to the shooting range was at 2:45 p.m. on Friday, July 12 the day before the shooting.

FBI Director Christopher Wray shared bombshell new details with Congress last month, including that Crooks had visited a shooting range the day before the rally.

Abbate revealed that at least one social media account on an unnamed platform believed to be associated with Crooks was discovered by the FBI. That account posted over 700 comments between 2019 and 2020, he added.

'Some of these comments ... appear to reflect anti-Semitic and anti-immigration themes to espouse political violence,' Abbate said.

More: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13724929/Donald-Trump-shooter-Thomas-Matthew-Crooks-obsession-revealed.html


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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1046 on: August 11, 2024, 01:03:02 pm »
the FBI found an account where Crooks 'posted over 700 times between 2019 and 2020 and then....what? Nothing?

Hard to believe he just stopped. Oh wait:

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He also disclosed that the agency is still working to identify and infiltrate Crooks's various 'encrypted' accounts that could shine light on his motive.

That angered Sen. Lindsey Graham who wanted more information on his. motive.

'So you're telling me, the guy that took eight shots at the president, former president, has apps that we can't get into, that may if you could get into [them] reveal some relevant information.'

'That is correct, senator,' the officials responded.

This concerned Graham who later pushed for better methods to infiltrate encrypted accounts.

Leave it to Lindsay to tweak this into an invasion of everyone's privacy.
Unless I am mistaken, couldn't the FeeBIes get a search warrant and court order for the platforms used to reveal the material? Or do they need more time coming up with a convincing legend for the patsy?
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1047 on: August 11, 2024, 01:17:45 pm »
   I trust Lindsy as much as I trust Comealot or the Orange guy.

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« Reply #1048 on: August 11, 2024, 02:13:12 pm »
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Donald Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks' biggest obsession is revealed with explosive new details
Daily Mail By Katelyn Caralle 8/8/2024

•   New documents reveal Trump's would-be assassin was a 'dietary aide' 
Seriously, Daily Mail? We knew he was a dietary aide at a nursing home about 10 minutes after this happened.
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« Reply #1049 on: August 11, 2024, 06:46:47 pm »
the FBI found an account where Crooks 'posted over 700 times between 2019 and 2020 and then....what? Nothing?

Hard to believe he just stopped. Oh wait:

Leave it to Lindsay to tweak this into an invasion of everyone's privacy.
Unless I am mistaken, couldn't the FeeBIes get a search warrant and court order for the platforms used to reveal the material? Or do they need more time coming up with a convincing legend for the patsy?

Apps like Signal are pier to pier with nothing stored on servers in between. In addition the encryption is end to end. That's the whole point of using an App like Signal. If it is an iPhone using facial recognition and they made a copy of everything on the iPhone then they can create a 3D model of his head and fake out the App. Otherwise they need the pins for both his phone and Signal.