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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1002 on: August 02, 2024, 01:10:30 pm »
Director Rowe Personally Crippled Trump's Secret Service Team
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The tap dancing, lies, and coverup of the Trump assassination attempt by the Secret Service, FBI, and now the mainstream media is so far beyond bureaucratic ass-covering that it's hard to conclude that the events in Butler were not desired.

I still maintain that it is unlikely in the extreme that anybody inside the government recruited Crooks to take his shots at Trump because it seems so implausible that any sane person would recruit an untrained kid to do the deed, but it is now clear to me that the top levels of the Secret Service and Homeland Security wanted Trump in danger.

For weeks, I wanted to believe that massive incompetence led to the events in Butler. I really did because the alternative didn't bear thinking of. I thought the lawfare campaign was banana republic stuff, but assassination? That is Putin-level evil.

But consider the facts: the security "breakdowns" were so massive and implausible when combined that any large police force could have done a better job than the most elite protection unit in the world. The shooter was identified, tracked, photographed, filmed on the roof, the Secret Service was warned multiple times, the shooter was in the line of sight of the snipers, and Trump was trotted out onto the stage and kept there as the shooter was lining up his shot in full view of the Secret Service snipers.

None of that is disputable.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1003 on: August 02, 2024, 01:47:29 pm »
When Rowe denied the local police from flying a drone over the Trump site, he is implicitly admitting that he knew about and was 'in on' the assassination plot. Why would he deny a drone flyover, which is something completely common and innocuous, unless he knew the drone would see Crooks? Rowe IS the 'inside man', which he himself Rowe, is supposedly hunting for.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1005 on: August 02, 2024, 04:25:32 pm »
Rowe is toast.
It is my opinion, and this is just a nobody layman's opinion, that Rowe is at least under investigation/surveillance if not in some kind of custody even as I write this. However, the people questioning him are not nearly as soft as what he experienced in Congress. He has the answers ... that very powerful people want to know.

When you try to kill the King, 'missing' is not allowed. Does not matter if the miss was 'one in a million' chance. When you try to kill the King, failure for any reason, is never tolerated. Look for Rowe to disappear in the very near future.
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« Reply #1006 on: August 02, 2024, 04:40:09 pm »
It is my opinion, and this is just a nobody layman's opinion, that Rowe is at least under investigation/surveillance if not in some kind of custody even as I write this. However, the people questioning him are not nearly as soft as what he experienced in Congress. He has the answers ... that very powerful people want to know.

When you try to kill the King, 'missing' is not allowed. Does not matter if the miss was 'one in a million' chance. When you try to kill the King, failure for any reason, is never tolerated. Look for Rowe to disappear in the very near future.

I'd have his raggedy ass on a waterboard slab by dinner time!
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1007 on: August 02, 2024, 04:42:18 pm »
I'd have his raggedy ass on a waterboard slab by dinner time!
Waterboard? I'd take him paddleboarding in Obama's Lagoon...

is that the lagoon with the creature?
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1008 on: August 02, 2024, 06:04:42 pm »
Rowe seems to be the hands-on front-line director.
Cheatle was the empty suit vacuous DEI "friend of Jill" enabler.
But a lot of other people and even other agencies were most likely involved.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1009 on: August 03, 2024, 02:22:50 am »
Crooks was a patsy.  Dead like Oswald, he has been silenced.  PERFECT EXECUTION, no pun.

It was planned.  CLEAR AS DAY TO SEE.

The cover up is real and absolute.  You will NEVER know the truth.

No central command, no communication with central command, which a former FBI agent today said is ALWAYS EXISTENT, but not on this day.  PLANNED

Four agents reported drawn off Trump's detail to protect Jill Biden.  PLANNED

TOO MANY PLANNED ACTIVITIES THAT LEAVE TRUMP EXPOSED.

THIS WAS A GOVERNMENT SPONSORED ASSASSINATION.  BUT, YOU WILL NEVER HEAR THE DETAILS ABOUT THE TRUTH.  NEVER!!!!!!

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1010 on: August 03, 2024, 06:25:22 am »
Crooks was a patsy.  Dead like Oswald, he has been silenced.  PERFECT EXECUTION, no pun.

It was planned.  CLEAR AS DAY TO SEE.

The cover up is real and absolute.  You will NEVER know the truth.

No central command, no communication with central command, which a former FBI agent today said is ALWAYS EXISTENT, but not on this day.  PLANNED

Four agents reported drawn off Trump's detail to protect Jill Biden.  PLANNED

TOO MANY PLANNED ACTIVITIES THAT LEAVE TRUMP EXPOSED.

THIS WAS A GOVERNMENT SPONSORED ASSASSINATION.  BUT, YOU WILL NEVER HEAR THE DETAILS ABOUT THE TRUTH.  NEVER!!!!!!
Gibbs Rule 39. There are no coincidences.
The Patsy is dead.
Chances are the 'pro' has been eliminated, too.
No one else is talking, or they babble word salad and give no information.
Some of that likely hasn't been sought, or the evidence is 'gone'.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1011 on: August 03, 2024, 07:57:30 am »
No one else is talking, or they babble word salad and give no information.


So your prime suspect is Kamala Harris?
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1012 on: August 03, 2024, 09:08:25 am »
True?
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Did you know?
The ATF illegally investigated the gun used in the assassination attempt on Trump, using the their database to trace it back  Crooks-the same database the ATF claims doesn’t exist.
Of course the media, Dems and RINOs are trying to put a positive spin on this(how convenient) but the bottom line is that the ATF’s registry’s true intent is to lead to gun confiscation.
How the ATF identified the Trump rally shooter in 30 minutes, CNN
6:56 PM · Aug 2, 2024
From the above CNN story: 
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Agents tracked the AR-15 style rifle the shooter used to a 2013 purchase from the now-closed dealer, sources familiar with investigators’ findings told CNN. The revelation added to complications for the FBI, ATF and other agencies who were trying to identify the gunman after he was shot and killed by a US Secret Service sniper.

ATF agents worked with the gun’s manufacturer, and manually searched through the closed gun shop’s paper records, eventually tracing the rifle to the shooter’s father. Investigators believe that the shooter’s father may have been an avid firearms collector or bought and sold weapons, sources briefed on the matter said.

The finding brought federal law enforcement officers to Crooks’ home and allowed investigators to hone in on who was responsible for the assassination attempt.
No indication this rifle previously had been used in a crime. They managed to track down a closed gun shop and get to its paper records, then manually searched through them - finding this particular gun in only 30 minutes?
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« Reply #1013 on: August 03, 2024, 09:22:38 am »
They destroy 4473 forms right after they get all your info entered in the forever database.
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« Reply #1014 on: August 03, 2024, 09:24:52 am »
They destroy 4473 forms right after they get all your info entered in the forever database.

Yep, I always suspected that the IRS' documentation criteria is closer to "forever" than 5 years. 
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« Reply #1015 on: August 03, 2024, 09:31:20 am »
Yep, I always suspected that the IRS' documentation criteria is closer to "forever" than 5 years.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1016 on: August 03, 2024, 10:57:13 am »

Dan Bongino STUNNED By Shocking Revelation From Trump Shooting: ‘How Do You Miss That?’

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August 2, 2024

Conservative host Dan Bongino reacted to new footage of the Trump shooting on Thursday, telling viewers it was “implausible” that Secret Service agents missed intercepting the gunman according to new cell phone footage that recently emerged.

The Washington Examiner captured Bongino’s remarks about the shaky footage from former President Donald Trump’s July 13th rally in Butler, Pennsylvania where a 20-year-old gunman was able to fire off multiple rifle rounds and strike him once before being shot and killed. The former director of the Secret Service, who has since resigned, as well as the acting chief, have both stated that multiple hurdles existed to neutralizing Thomas Crooks before he opened fire. That doesn’t stack up against the evidence, Bongino argued.

“If you’re looking at the three o’clock, how the hell do you miss this?!” Bongino said on his show as he played new footage from a counter-sniper as he located Crooks on a nearby rooftop. “This is a cell phone camera! This is not a zoom, high, telephoto, freaking lens used to film a Marvel movie! It’s a cellphone! You can see the guy clear as day! How did they miss this?!” Asking “What is left to defend?”, the former Secret Service agent said the agency is asking Americans to “believe the implausible” about just how impossible it was to try and stop Crooks from firing the first round.

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« Reply #1017 on: August 03, 2024, 11:09:30 am »
I got an add, as far as theorizing what happened.   Of course, this would not be the root cause, but contributory.

Before retirement, when I was over Safety, Health, and Environmental at a plant, Our Fire Brigade had a leader who was obeessive with learning and leading Emergency Response operations.  On the surface,  hearing him, you'd think he was a large city Fire Chief.

But when that event happened, that confidence and leadership didn't materialize , and part of that is that no matter how much you drill for an event, you never how they will respond.  Actual emergencies are rare, and it is impossible how people will respond. 

I am guessing that someone or a few in  USSS team at Trump's rally had that same kind of moment.  Like choke in a sports analogy.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1018 on: August 03, 2024, 02:44:46 pm »
Jesse Watters: The rally where Trump was almost assass!nated was the FIRST TIME Trump's detail was provided with a counter sniper team. For the last two years, Trump was not provided with counter-sniper support.

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« Reply #1019 on: August 03, 2024, 05:30:43 pm »
Jesse Watters: The rally where Trump was almost assass!nated was the FIRST TIME Trump's detail was provided with a counter sniper team. For the last two years, Trump was not provided with counter-sniper support.

https://twitter.com/OwenGregorian/status/1819792958998159492
They needed the counter snipers at the assassination rally to put the patsy down.
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« Reply #1020 on: August 04, 2024, 02:54:01 am »
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Chances are the 'pro' has been eliminated, too.

Perhaps I have watched too many movies, but I say if a professional hitman was paid to undertake a hit on Trump, and I believe that was the case, and he failed, he is more likely promising to make good on the hit versus his being taken out too.

That is why I say Trump is more vulnerable than ever.  I think it is blatantly clear that some level of involvement on the part of the Secret Service and possibly the FBI was needed and in fact accomplished.  All parties are treating the public like mushrooms and will continue to do so.

So, suppose worst case scenario, Trump is taken out in the weeks before the election, what then?  Do we still hold the election?  Or do they delay the election until such time the Republicans select another candidate?  Who would benefit from this chaos?  Well, I say the list is long.

I do not trust the Secret Service.  If Trump does, he is a fool.  He should have his own people head up his protection.  I believe the government is working to kill Trump.  They will try again, only they will not attempt to hide their actions behind the efforts of a patsy.  The pro will attempt to kill him from a considerable distance with one shot.  And then slip away, perhaps with assistance from those that contracted the hit.

This is not over.  God will have to intervene to keep Trump safe, for our government is ruthless when they decide to eliminate someone.

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« Reply #1021 on: August 04, 2024, 04:06:20 am »
Perhaps I have watched too many movies, but I say if a professional hitman was paid to undertake a hit on Trump, and I believe that was the case, and he failed, he is more likely promising to make good on the hit versus his being taken out too.

That is why I say Trump is more vulnerable than ever.  I think it is blatantly clear that some level of involvement on the part of the Secret Service and possibly the FBI was needed and in fact accomplished.  All parties are treating the public like mushrooms and will continue to do so.

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Nope..."He's dead, Jim!" 

IMO, real life isn't the plot line of PRISON BREAK-Season 5, where a single rogue individual is running things.

A better scenario is that Acting Director Rowe will be room temperature before Pres. Trump.  And it will be a 'Quiet' death, similar to Breitbart and not like the final minutes of SUM OF ALL FEAR
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« Reply #1022 on: August 04, 2024, 12:27:07 pm »
So your prime suspect is Kamala Harris?
Kamala is not the only one to produce word salad. Meaningless bureau-babble answers that do not answer the question (what would have been called "bullshitting" on a college exam) qualify, too.
My suspicions turn toward elements from the three letter intelligence and investigative agencies, and Secret Service more than Kamala, and the people pulling her strings conspiring to make the event happen, insofar as they could control the situation.
Trump's off-script and unanticipated physical movement thwarted that.
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« Reply #1023 on: August 04, 2024, 12:31:40 pm »
Perhaps I have watched too many movies, but I say if a professional hitman was paid to undertake a hit on Trump, and I believe that was the case, and he failed, he is more likely promising to make good on the hit versus his being taken out too.

That is why I say Trump is more vulnerable than ever.  I think it is blatantly clear that some level of involvement on the part of the Secret Service and possibly the FBI was needed and in fact accomplished.  All parties are treating the public like mushrooms and will continue to do so.

So, suppose worst case scenario, Trump is taken out in the weeks before the election, what then?  Do we still hold the election?  Or do they delay the election until such time the Republicans select another candidate?  Who would benefit from this chaos?  Well, I say the list is long.

I do not trust the Secret Service.  If Trump does, he is a fool.  He should have his own people head up his protection.  I believe the government is working to kill Trump.  They will try again, only they will not attempt to hide their actions behind the efforts of a patsy.  The pro will attempt to kill him from a considerable distance with one shot.  And then slip away, perhaps with assistance from those that contracted the hit.

This is not over.  God will have to intervene to keep Trump safe, for our government is ruthless when they decide to eliminate someone.
I think part of that depends on whether he is a contractor or on the payroll. I agree, the threat is not over, but would hope crowds and legit security are more vigilant than ever, not wanting any repeat.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1024 on: August 04, 2024, 12:56:51 pm »
Newly reported transcripts depict communication breakdown hindering law enforcement at Butler Trump rally
A Secret Service spokesman responded by pledging a 'robust mission assurance investigation' to prevent future catastrophe
By Charles Creitz Fox News
Published August 4, 2024 12:11pm EDT

CONNOQUENESSING, Pa. – Newly reported transcripts of law enforcement communications at the Butler, Pennsylvania, Trump rally depict a communications structure that essentially isolated local and federal law enforcement from each other at key times.

Communications reported Sunday by the Washington Post also highlight the effect spotty cellular service in the rural Allegheny Valley purportedly had on preventing transmission of key messages like an officer’s photo of then-suspicious individual Thomas Crooks.

According to encrypted radio communications obtained by the newspaper, at 5:42 p.m. ET on July 13, a counter-sniper from a local law enforcement agency alerted that a "younger White male [with] long hair" was "lurking" around the AGR glass company building adjacent to the Butler Farm Show grounds – but had since disappeared from view.

Within a half-hour, that suspicious individual – Thomas Crooks – would fire shots at former President Trump from atop that low-rise building and kill a local firefighter in the process.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1025 on: August 04, 2024, 01:07:33 pm »
Kamala is not the only one to produce word salad. Meaningless bureau-babble answers that do not answer the question (what would have been called "bullshitting" on a college exam) qualify, too.
My suspicions turn toward elements from the three letter intelligence and investigative agencies, and Secret Service more than Kamala, and the people pulling her strings conspiring to make the event happen, insofar as they could control the situation.
Trump's off-script and unanticipated physical movement thwarted that.
Agreed.  I anticipate that 'they' will try again.

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« Reply #1026 on: August 05, 2024, 12:47:25 am »
Agreed.  I anticipate that 'they' will try again.
Likely as he campaigns, almost certainly if he beats the steal and wins.
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« Reply #1027 on: August 05, 2024, 01:05:53 pm »
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« Reply #1028 on: August 06, 2024, 07:47:46 am »
Another of our exchanges between SneakyPete and myself.

I find it interesting.


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I agree completely.  Fact is, leadership and much of the Democrats have gone full blown communist.  Their desired goals today are identical to the desires of communists in the 50s and 60s.  And if they could have totalitarian control of the government, they would relish it.  And frankly, I do not believe we are far from that right this minute.

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I agree,and it's all over if Trump isn't elected.

It might be "all over" even  if he is elected because the globalist left (ironically enough all of whom are multi-Billionaires) is NOT going to  give up  on the possibly of "Global Government,Inc" without a fight. Even if Trump is elected,his SS detail needs to be THOROUGHLY checked out to make sure they will all protect him,instead of kill him.

We ain't talking "shoplifting"  here,we are talking about stealing the whole damn world.


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How prophetic!!!  They did try to kill him, but they are conducting the investigation along with the reputable FBI, so guess what, you mushrooms can just stew!  LOL
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1029 on: August 06, 2024, 08:51:25 am »
Sen. Josh Hawley says Secret Service whistleblowers tell him that the lead agent on the Trump Butler job was NOT enforcing the normal security protocols that day and she wasn’t having ID’s checked that day. He describes it as a free-for-all and says as we speak, this lead agent is still doing all her duties on the job. ...

https://twitter.com/RealMacReport/status/1820661167208960130
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« Reply #1030 on: August 06, 2024, 11:59:13 am »
Sen. Josh Hawley says Secret Service whistleblowers tell him that the lead agent on the Trump Butler job was NOT enforcing the normal security protocols that day and she wasn’t having ID’s checked that day. He describes it as a free-for-all and says as we speak, this lead agent is still doing all her duties on the job. ...

https://twitter.com/RealMacReport/status/1820661167208960130

I guess you can be completely incompetent and still keep your job, when you work for the feds.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1031 on: August 06, 2024, 12:08:58 pm »
I guess you can be completely incompetent and still keep your job, when you work for the feds.
As a practical matter, they're completely safe from being fired.
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« Reply #1032 on: August 06, 2024, 12:20:48 pm »
As a practical matter, they're completely safe from being fired.

:yowsa: And that is a REAL problem!
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1033 on: August 06, 2024, 02:26:33 pm »

Secret Service whistleblower makes damning claim about the lead agent during Trump's assassination attempt

DAILYMAIL.COM
By Jon Michael Raasch
6 August 2024

A whistleblower is claiming that the lead Secret Service agent in charge of Donald Trump's deadly Butler, Pennsylvania, rally was 'inexperienced' and 'failed to implement appropriate security protocols.'

The complaint comes weeks after 20-year-old murderer Thomas Matthew Crooks shot Trump from a 'perfect location' in relatively close range to the former president as he spoke at the July 13 campaign rally.

Crooks hit Trump, injuring him and two others, along with fatally wounding firefighter Corey Comperatore.

The shocking new testimony comes from a whistleblower with direct knowledge of the event, according to a letter provided to DailyMail.com from the office of Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo.

Concerned over this lead agent, who is 'still doing protective visits,' Hawley is now demanding in a letter to Secret Service Acting Director Ronald Rowe that the 'ineffective' lead site agent be suspended and investigated immediately.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13714547/Whistleblowers-claim-senior-Secret-Service-agent-ground-Trump-shooting-inexperienced-incompetent.html
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1034 on: August 06, 2024, 04:41:35 pm »
A 20yr old high school nobody. Managed to out smart the America Secret Service and shot Donald Trump.
The 20 year old nobody was killed seconds after the shot. He has no digital finger print and never did nothing online.

He is a ghost, who knows nobody and never did anything. He is the invisible assassin (patsy).

Look man, when the FEDs come after you offering a big score for a million dollars, you will be killed.
In fact, with the offer made, you are already dead.

Everybody is still counting days until Rowe mysteriously dies or disappears into the nothing. (we all know)
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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1035 on: August 06, 2024, 05:56:40 pm »
A 20yr old high school nobody. Managed to out smart the America Secret Service and shot Donald Trump.
The 20 year old nobody was killed seconds after the shot. He has no digital finger print and never did nothing online.

He is a ghost, who knows nobody and never did anything. He is the invisible assassin (patsy).

Look man, when the FEDs come after you offering a big score for a million dollars, you will be killed.
In fact, with the offer made, you are already dead.

Everybody is still counting days until Rowe mysteriously dies or disappears into the nothing. (we all know)
Maybe they will buy him a government paid for mansion, next to Lois Lerner in Austin Texas.

(FEDs are not very good at 'disappearing' people) That is why Hillary always kills them. She is right, in a very dark and weird way
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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1036 on: August 06, 2024, 09:49:24 pm »
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⚠️BREAKING: ANOTHER PERSON WAS JUST CHARGED FOR HELPING TO ORCHESTRATE THE DONALD TRUMP ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT 🚨

STAY TUNED TIME TO BLOW IT ALL UP‼️


https://twitter.com/MattWallace888/status/1820891778700255696

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1037 on: August 06, 2024, 10:04:30 pm »
Trump possible target of Pakistani national charged in murder-for-hire plot

CNBC Kevin Breuninger

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•   A Pakistani national with ties to Iran was charged in a foiled plot to assassinate U.S. government officials on American soil, the Department of Justice said.

•   Former President Donald Trump was one of the potential targets of that plot, a senior law enforcement source told NBC News.

•   Asif Merchant was arrested a day before a gunman narrowly missed killing Trump at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania.

More: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/06/feds-charge-pakistani-national-in-murder-for-hire-plot-against-us-officials-possibly-including-trump.html

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1038 on: August 06, 2024, 10:53:05 pm »
I guess you can be completely incompetent and still keep your job, when you work for the feds.
I applied once to be a weatherman (meteorologist) at the local airport. Federal job, degree required, etc.

I figured it would be neat to have a job where you could be wrong 'most every day and still go to work in the morning!

Nope, I didn't get the job, but that was because my app was returned, looking for civil service exam scores, and they were not required. By the time I sorted that out and re-submitted it, I was told the time for submitting applications had expired.

I never applied for a government job again.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1039 on: August 08, 2024, 03:49:43 pm »
JUST RELEASED via Fox News: Trump assassination attempt bodycam footage showing officer confronting shooter released

https://twitter.com/susancrabtree/status/1821614364442661158

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⁉️ 🚨 This key Butler police bodycam video from 7/13 raises a number of important questions.

Why did the local Butler officer run away from the building and across a field after encountering Crooks, the 7/13 Butler rally shooter, as the officer was trying to climb on the roof?   

I give him credit for being the only officer to attempt to get up there until it was too late -- but running away from an armed shooter on a roof 150 yards from a former president of the United States and a crowd of tens of thousands of people?   

Why didn't anyone else scramble on top of the roof where they KNEW Crooks was? There's a disturbing amount of standing around in this bodycam footage. There were A Lot of highly skilled, armed local police/SWAT teams waiting for orders to go back on that roof. WHY??
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« Reply #1040 on: August 08, 2024, 07:01:29 pm »
The Wall Street Journal has obtained body cam footage of local police complaining that they repeatedly asked the US Secret Service, days in advance, to secure the warehouse that was eventually used by the shooter who attempted to assassinate Trump and killed one man.

Full Story: https://bit.ly/3WCmxVR
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1041 on: August 09, 2024, 08:06:25 am »
Excerpt from the article:

Today, shocking new audio and video footage has been released from the day former President Donald Trump was nearly assassinated by Thomas Crooks during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. The footage provides a harrowing glimpse into the chaos that ensued as law enforcement officers attempted to confront the gunman.

Terrifying Encounter Captured on Bodycam

The newly released video comes from the bodycam of a police officer who attempted to reach the rooftop where Crooks was positioned. The footage shows the officer making his way to the roof, only to be confronted by Crooks pointing a gun directly at him. In a moment of sheer terror, the officer quickly retreats, his bodycam capturing his panicked response as he flees back down the stairs.





A handgun is the better weapon for when holding the edge of roof one handed. Why jump down and run back for a rifle?
 Also, out of all those police cars, were there no flash bang grenades? Running back and tossing a few onto the shooter would've suppressed his ability to aim.

https://www.usasupreme.com/local-police-release-new-footage-and-audio-with-a-damning-update-on-the-trump-assassination-attempt/
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« Reply #1042 on: August 09, 2024, 08:21:28 am »
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1043 on: August 09, 2024, 11:51:28 am »
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1044 on: August 09, 2024, 12:40:51 pm »
A handgun is the better weapon for when holding the edge of roof one handed. Why jump down and run back for a rifle?
 Also, out of all those police cars, were there no flash bang grenades? Running back and tossing a few onto the shooter would've suppressed his ability to aim.


You're assuming the LEO was full sworn.

This is a crowd control situation, and believe me, that is largely going to be B-Team and volunteers.

Here that'd have been Sheriff's Posse (fan club wannabes) and initiates (young and normally riding with an FTO) Neither one is sworn, so neither one is armed. They are uniformed (Wearin patch, but not badged)and maybe qual'd on a tazer... But they ain't packin much.

There's a lot of vid of sworn, carrying cops running outward - having to get through a fence to get at the building.

So I betcha most of the sworn (real) cops were up in the venue, with the b-team pulling crowd control in the outer ring. That feels right - That's what would happen here.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1045 on: August 11, 2024, 07:27:01 am »
Donald Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks' biggest obsession is revealed with explosive new details

Daily Mail By Katelyn Caralle 8/8/2024

•   New documents reveal Trump's would-be assassin was a 'dietary aide' 

•   Follow along with DailyMail.com's live political coverage

Thomas Matthew Crooks spent copious amounts of time at a nearby gun club as sharpshooting became his profound obsession before he attempted to kill former President Donald Trump.

The would-be assassin visited the range 43 times went to target practice three to six times per month for a year before the assassination plot, according to bombshell new records obtained by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa).

Clairton Sportsmen's Club turned over to Grassley the logs revealing the staggering amount of the time Crooks practiced his sharpshooting before he attempted to kill Trump.

The records obtained by DailyMail.com indicate he spent 80 percent of his time at the range doing rifle practice with long guns rather than handguns.

And the obsession even overshadowed his holidays as he spent Christmas Day, Valentine's Day and Halloween at the club in Clairton, Pennsylvania.

The new information provided to Grassley reveals that Crooks' final visit to the shooting range was at 2:45 p.m. on Friday, July 12 the day before the shooting.

FBI Director Christopher Wray shared bombshell new details with Congress last month, including that Crooks had visited a shooting range the day before the rally.

Abbate revealed that at least one social media account on an unnamed platform believed to be associated with Crooks was discovered by the FBI. That account posted over 700 comments between 2019 and 2020, he added.

'Some of these comments ... appear to reflect anti-Semitic and anti-immigration themes to espouse political violence,' Abbate said.

More: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13724929/Donald-Trump-shooter-Thomas-Matthew-Crooks-obsession-revealed.html


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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1046 on: August 11, 2024, 01:03:02 pm »
the FBI found an account where Crooks 'posted over 700 times between 2019 and 2020 and then....what? Nothing?

Hard to believe he just stopped. Oh wait:

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He also disclosed that the agency is still working to identify and infiltrate Crooks's various 'encrypted' accounts that could shine light on his motive.

That angered Sen. Lindsey Graham who wanted more information on his. motive.

'So you're telling me, the guy that took eight shots at the president, former president, has apps that we can't get into, that may if you could get into [them] reveal some relevant information.'

'That is correct, senator,' the officials responded.

This concerned Graham who later pushed for better methods to infiltrate encrypted accounts.

Leave it to Lindsay to tweak this into an invasion of everyone's privacy.
Unless I am mistaken, couldn't the FeeBIes get a search warrant and court order for the platforms used to reveal the material? Or do they need more time coming up with a convincing legend for the patsy?
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1047 on: August 11, 2024, 01:17:45 pm »
   I trust Lindsy as much as I trust Comealot or the Orange guy.

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« Reply #1048 on: August 11, 2024, 02:13:12 pm »
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Donald Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks' biggest obsession is revealed with explosive new details
Daily Mail By Katelyn Caralle 8/8/2024

•   New documents reveal Trump's would-be assassin was a 'dietary aide' 
Seriously, Daily Mail? We knew he was a dietary aide at a nursing home about 10 minutes after this happened.
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« Reply #1049 on: August 11, 2024, 06:46:47 pm »
the FBI found an account where Crooks 'posted over 700 times between 2019 and 2020 and then....what? Nothing?

Hard to believe he just stopped. Oh wait:

Leave it to Lindsay to tweak this into an invasion of everyone's privacy.
Unless I am mistaken, couldn't the FeeBIes get a search warrant and court order for the platforms used to reveal the material? Or do they need more time coming up with a convincing legend for the patsy?

Apps like Signal are pier to pier with nothing stored on servers in between. In addition the encryption is end to end. That's the whole point of using an App like Signal. If it is an iPhone using facial recognition and they made a copy of everything on the iPhone then they can create a 3D model of his head and fake out the App. Otherwise they need the pins for both his phone and Signal.