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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1002 on: August 02, 2024, 01:10:30 pm »
Director Rowe Personally Crippled Trump's Secret Service Team
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The tap dancing, lies, and coverup of the Trump assassination attempt by the Secret Service, FBI, and now the mainstream media is so far beyond bureaucratic ass-covering that it's hard to conclude that the events in Butler were not desired.

I still maintain that it is unlikely in the extreme that anybody inside the government recruited Crooks to take his shots at Trump because it seems so implausible that any sane person would recruit an untrained kid to do the deed, but it is now clear to me that the top levels of the Secret Service and Homeland Security wanted Trump in danger.

For weeks, I wanted to believe that massive incompetence led to the events in Butler. I really did because the alternative didn't bear thinking of. I thought the lawfare campaign was banana republic stuff, but assassination? That is Putin-level evil.

But consider the facts: the security "breakdowns" were so massive and implausible when combined that any large police force could have done a better job than the most elite protection unit in the world. The shooter was identified, tracked, photographed, filmed on the roof, the Secret Service was warned multiple times, the shooter was in the line of sight of the snipers, and Trump was trotted out onto the stage and kept there as the shooter was lining up his shot in full view of the Secret Service snipers.

None of that is disputable.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1003 on: August 02, 2024, 01:47:29 pm »
When Rowe denied the local police from flying a drone over the Trump site, he is implicitly admitting that he knew about and was 'in on' the assassination plot. Why would he deny a drone flyover, which is something completely common and innocuous, unless he knew the drone would see Crooks? Rowe IS the 'inside man', which he himself Rowe, is supposedly hunting for.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1005 on: August 02, 2024, 04:25:32 pm »
Rowe is toast.
It is my opinion, and this is just a nobody layman's opinion, that Rowe is at least under investigation/surveillance if not in some kind of custody even as I write this. However, the people questioning him are not nearly as soft as what he experienced in Congress. He has the answers ... that very powerful people want to know.

When you try to kill the King, 'missing' is not allowed. Does not matter if the miss was 'one in a million' chance. When you try to kill the King, failure for any reason, is never tolerated. Look for Rowe to disappear in the very near future.
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« Reply #1006 on: August 02, 2024, 04:40:09 pm »
It is my opinion, and this is just a nobody layman's opinion, that Rowe is at least under investigation/surveillance if not in some kind of custody even as I write this. However, the people questioning him are not nearly as soft as what he experienced in Congress. He has the answers ... that very powerful people want to know.

When you try to kill the King, 'missing' is not allowed. Does not matter if the miss was 'one in a million' chance. When you try to kill the King, failure for any reason, is never tolerated. Look for Rowe to disappear in the very near future.

I'd have his raggedy ass on a waterboard slab by dinner time!
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1007 on: August 02, 2024, 04:42:18 pm »
I'd have his raggedy ass on a waterboard slab by dinner time!
Waterboard? I'd take him paddleboarding in Obama's Lagoon...

is that the lagoon with the creature?
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1008 on: August 02, 2024, 06:04:42 pm »
Rowe seems to be the hands-on front-line director.
Cheatle was the empty suit vacuous DEI "friend of Jill" enabler.
But a lot of other people and even other agencies were most likely involved.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1009 on: August 03, 2024, 02:22:50 am »
Crooks was a patsy.  Dead like Oswald, he has been silenced.  PERFECT EXECUTION, no pun.

It was planned.  CLEAR AS DAY TO SEE.

The cover up is real and absolute.  You will NEVER know the truth.

No central command, no communication with central command, which a former FBI agent today said is ALWAYS EXISTENT, but not on this day.  PLANNED

Four agents reported drawn off Trump's detail to protect Jill Biden.  PLANNED

TOO MANY PLANNED ACTIVITIES THAT LEAVE TRUMP EXPOSED.

THIS WAS A GOVERNMENT SPONSORED ASSASSINATION.  BUT, YOU WILL NEVER HEAR THE DETAILS ABOUT THE TRUTH.  NEVER!!!!!!

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1010 on: August 03, 2024, 06:25:22 am »
Crooks was a patsy.  Dead like Oswald, he has been silenced.  PERFECT EXECUTION, no pun.

It was planned.  CLEAR AS DAY TO SEE.

The cover up is real and absolute.  You will NEVER know the truth.

No central command, no communication with central command, which a former FBI agent today said is ALWAYS EXISTENT, but not on this day.  PLANNED

Four agents reported drawn off Trump's detail to protect Jill Biden.  PLANNED

TOO MANY PLANNED ACTIVITIES THAT LEAVE TRUMP EXPOSED.

THIS WAS A GOVERNMENT SPONSORED ASSASSINATION.  BUT, YOU WILL NEVER HEAR THE DETAILS ABOUT THE TRUTH.  NEVER!!!!!!
Gibbs Rule 39. There are no coincidences.
The Patsy is dead.
Chances are the 'pro' has been eliminated, too.
No one else is talking, or they babble word salad and give no information.
Some of that likely hasn't been sought, or the evidence is 'gone'.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1011 on: August 03, 2024, 07:57:30 am »
No one else is talking, or they babble word salad and give no information.


So your prime suspect is Kamala Harris?
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1012 on: August 03, 2024, 09:08:25 am »
True?
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Did you know?
The ATF illegally investigated the gun used in the assassination attempt on Trump, using the their database to trace it back  Crooks-the same database the ATF claims doesn’t exist.
Of course the media, Dems and RINOs are trying to put a positive spin on this(how convenient) but the bottom line is that the ATF’s registry’s true intent is to lead to gun confiscation.
How the ATF identified the Trump rally shooter in 30 minutes, CNN
6:56 PM · Aug 2, 2024
From the above CNN story: 
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Agents tracked the AR-15 style rifle the shooter used to a 2013 purchase from the now-closed dealer, sources familiar with investigators’ findings told CNN. The revelation added to complications for the FBI, ATF and other agencies who were trying to identify the gunman after he was shot and killed by a US Secret Service sniper.

ATF agents worked with the gun’s manufacturer, and manually searched through the closed gun shop’s paper records, eventually tracing the rifle to the shooter’s father. Investigators believe that the shooter’s father may have been an avid firearms collector or bought and sold weapons, sources briefed on the matter said.

The finding brought federal law enforcement officers to Crooks’ home and allowed investigators to hone in on who was responsible for the assassination attempt.
No indication this rifle previously had been used in a crime. They managed to track down a closed gun shop and get to its paper records, then manually searched through them - finding this particular gun in only 30 minutes?
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« Reply #1013 on: August 03, 2024, 09:22:38 am »
They destroy 4473 forms right after they get all your info entered in the forever database.
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« Reply #1014 on: August 03, 2024, 09:24:52 am »
They destroy 4473 forms right after they get all your info entered in the forever database.

Yep, I always suspected that the IRS' documentation criteria is closer to "forever" than 5 years. 
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« Reply #1015 on: August 03, 2024, 09:31:20 am »
Yep, I always suspected that the IRS' documentation criteria is closer to "forever" than 5 years.

See... that's why you buy em used off the back of a truck... or put one together out of mail order parts.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1016 on: August 03, 2024, 10:57:13 am »

Dan Bongino STUNNED By Shocking Revelation From Trump Shooting: ‘How Do You Miss That?’

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Conservative host Dan Bongino reacted to new footage of the Trump shooting on Thursday, telling viewers it was “implausible” that Secret Service agents missed intercepting the gunman according to new cell phone footage that recently emerged.

The Washington Examiner captured Bongino’s remarks about the shaky footage from former President Donald Trump’s July 13th rally in Butler, Pennsylvania where a 20-year-old gunman was able to fire off multiple rifle rounds and strike him once before being shot and killed. The former director of the Secret Service, who has since resigned, as well as the acting chief, have both stated that multiple hurdles existed to neutralizing Thomas Crooks before he opened fire. That doesn’t stack up against the evidence, Bongino argued.

“If you’re looking at the three o’clock, how the hell do you miss this?!” Bongino said on his show as he played new footage from a counter-sniper as he located Crooks on a nearby rooftop. “This is a cell phone camera! This is not a zoom, high, telephoto, freaking lens used to film a Marvel movie! It’s a cellphone! You can see the guy clear as day! How did they miss this?!” Asking “What is left to defend?”, the former Secret Service agent said the agency is asking Americans to “believe the implausible” about just how impossible it was to try and stop Crooks from firing the first round.

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« Reply #1017 on: August 03, 2024, 11:09:30 am »
I got an add, as far as theorizing what happened.   Of course, this would not be the root cause, but contributory.

Before retirement, when I was over Safety, Health, and Environmental at a plant, Our Fire Brigade had a leader who was obeessive with learning and leading Emergency Response operations.  On the surface,  hearing him, you'd think he was a large city Fire Chief.

But when that event happened, that confidence and leadership didn't materialize , and part of that is that no matter how much you drill for an event, you never how they will respond.  Actual emergencies are rare, and it is impossible how people will respond. 

I am guessing that someone or a few in  USSS team at Trump's rally had that same kind of moment.  Like choke in a sports analogy.
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« Reply #1018 on: August 03, 2024, 02:44:46 pm »
Jesse Watters: The rally where Trump was almost assass!nated was the FIRST TIME Trump's detail was provided with a counter sniper team. For the last two years, Trump was not provided with counter-sniper support.

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« Reply #1019 on: August 03, 2024, 05:30:43 pm »
Jesse Watters: The rally where Trump was almost assass!nated was the FIRST TIME Trump's detail was provided with a counter sniper team. For the last two years, Trump was not provided with counter-sniper support.

https://twitter.com/OwenGregorian/status/1819792958998159492
They needed the counter snipers at the assassination rally to put the patsy down.
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« Reply #1020 on: August 04, 2024, 02:54:01 am »
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Chances are the 'pro' has been eliminated, too.

Perhaps I have watched too many movies, but I say if a professional hitman was paid to undertake a hit on Trump, and I believe that was the case, and he failed, he is more likely promising to make good on the hit versus his being taken out too.

That is why I say Trump is more vulnerable than ever.  I think it is blatantly clear that some level of involvement on the part of the Secret Service and possibly the FBI was needed and in fact accomplished.  All parties are treating the public like mushrooms and will continue to do so.

So, suppose worst case scenario, Trump is taken out in the weeks before the election, what then?  Do we still hold the election?  Or do they delay the election until such time the Republicans select another candidate?  Who would benefit from this chaos?  Well, I say the list is long.

I do not trust the Secret Service.  If Trump does, he is a fool.  He should have his own people head up his protection.  I believe the government is working to kill Trump.  They will try again, only they will not attempt to hide their actions behind the efforts of a patsy.  The pro will attempt to kill him from a considerable distance with one shot.  And then slip away, perhaps with assistance from those that contracted the hit.

This is not over.  God will have to intervene to keep Trump safe, for our government is ruthless when they decide to eliminate someone.

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« Reply #1021 on: August 04, 2024, 04:06:20 am »
Perhaps I have watched too many movies, but I say if a professional hitman was paid to undertake a hit on Trump, and I believe that was the case, and he failed, he is more likely promising to make good on the hit versus his being taken out too.

That is why I say Trump is more vulnerable than ever.  I think it is blatantly clear that some level of involvement on the part of the Secret Service and possibly the FBI was needed and in fact accomplished.  All parties are treating the public like mushrooms and will continue to do so.

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Nope..."He's dead, Jim!" 

IMO, real life isn't the plot line of PRISON BREAK-Season 5, where a single rogue individual is running things.

A better scenario is that Acting Director Rowe will be room temperature before Pres. Trump.  And it will be a 'Quiet' death, similar to Breitbart and not like the final minutes of SUM OF ALL FEAR
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1022 on: August 04, 2024, 12:27:07 pm »
So your prime suspect is Kamala Harris?
Kamala is not the only one to produce word salad. Meaningless bureau-babble answers that do not answer the question (what would have been called "bullshitting" on a college exam) qualify, too.
My suspicions turn toward elements from the three letter intelligence and investigative agencies, and Secret Service more than Kamala, and the people pulling her strings conspiring to make the event happen, insofar as they could control the situation.
Trump's off-script and unanticipated physical movement thwarted that.
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« Reply #1023 on: August 04, 2024, 12:31:40 pm »
Perhaps I have watched too many movies, but I say if a professional hitman was paid to undertake a hit on Trump, and I believe that was the case, and he failed, he is more likely promising to make good on the hit versus his being taken out too.

That is why I say Trump is more vulnerable than ever.  I think it is blatantly clear that some level of involvement on the part of the Secret Service and possibly the FBI was needed and in fact accomplished.  All parties are treating the public like mushrooms and will continue to do so.

So, suppose worst case scenario, Trump is taken out in the weeks before the election, what then?  Do we still hold the election?  Or do they delay the election until such time the Republicans select another candidate?  Who would benefit from this chaos?  Well, I say the list is long.

I do not trust the Secret Service.  If Trump does, he is a fool.  He should have his own people head up his protection.  I believe the government is working to kill Trump.  They will try again, only they will not attempt to hide their actions behind the efforts of a patsy.  The pro will attempt to kill him from a considerable distance with one shot.  And then slip away, perhaps with assistance from those that contracted the hit.

This is not over.  God will have to intervene to keep Trump safe, for our government is ruthless when they decide to eliminate someone.
I think part of that depends on whether he is a contractor or on the payroll. I agree, the threat is not over, but would hope crowds and legit security are more vigilant than ever, not wanting any repeat.
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« Reply #1024 on: August 04, 2024, 12:56:51 pm »
Newly reported transcripts depict communication breakdown hindering law enforcement at Butler Trump rally
A Secret Service spokesman responded by pledging a 'robust mission assurance investigation' to prevent future catastrophe
By Charles Creitz Fox News
Published August 4, 2024 12:11pm EDT

CONNOQUENESSING, Pa. – Newly reported transcripts of law enforcement communications at the Butler, Pennsylvania, Trump rally depict a communications structure that essentially isolated local and federal law enforcement from each other at key times.

Communications reported Sunday by the Washington Post also highlight the effect spotty cellular service in the rural Allegheny Valley purportedly had on preventing transmission of key messages like an officer’s photo of then-suspicious individual Thomas Crooks.

According to encrypted radio communications obtained by the newspaper, at 5:42 p.m. ET on July 13, a counter-sniper from a local law enforcement agency alerted that a "younger White male [with] long hair" was "lurking" around the AGR glass company building adjacent to the Butler Farm Show grounds – but had since disappeared from view.

Within a half-hour, that suspicious individual – Thomas Crooks – would fire shots at former President Trump from atop that low-rise building and kill a local firefighter in the process.

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