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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #850 on: July 29, 2024, 09:40:06 am »
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #851 on: July 29, 2024, 09:59:50 am »
Secret Service failures turn GOP lawmakers into private detectives
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Ramsey Touchberry
July 29, 2024 5:00 am
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Failures by the Secret Service to prevent the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump have some Republicans taking matters into their own hands.

Armed with accusations that federal investigators aren’t being transparent, lawmakers have obtained and unveiled new footage and details of security pitfalls that may have enabled a rooftop shooter to strike Trump from only a few hundred feet away.

“The only way for the Secret Service to regain Americans’ trust is to be totally transparent about what went wrong on July 13,” Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) told the Washington Examiner. “Unfortunately, federal agencies seem to be behind the ball.”

Grassley made public nearly 30 minutes of bodycam footage taken by law enforcement in the aftermath of the shooting, including the graphic moments when agents encountered the lifeless body of the would-be assassin, identified as Thomas Matthew Crooks.

Parts of the video show Crooks’s body on the roof of the building where a Secret Service counter-sniper shot and killed Crooks in the moments after he opened fire on Trump during a July 13 campaign rally. The videos offered greater details into reports that agents were warned of Crooks as a possible threat prior to him gaining roof access and shooting Trump.

“So, this is the guy that your snipers saw?” a Secret Service agent says on the roof to a Beaver County Emergency Services Unit officer.

“Yes, Beaver County snipers seen him and sent pictures out. This is him,” a Beaver County ESU officer said before the two men compared pictures on their phones.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #852 on: July 29, 2024, 10:18:41 am »
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« Reply #853 on: July 29, 2024, 10:42:57 am »
I love how 90-year-old Sen. Grassley could negotiate the roof and take video thereon, but it was too sloped for USSS agents to handle.
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« Reply #854 on: July 29, 2024, 10:54:39 am »
 
Lead SWAT Sharpshooter Says Group Had ‘No Communication’ With Secret Service Prior To Trump Rally Attack
Opinion by Hailey Gomez • 17h


The lead sharpshooter of the SWAT Team working alongside the U.S. Secret Service during the attempted assassination against former President Donald Trump said on Sunday that the group had “no communication” with the agency until after the shooting.

In an interview with ABC News reporter Aaron Katersky, the local SWAT team from Beaver County, Pennsylvania, appeared on the outlet to discuss security concerns from the day around the assassination attempt against Trump. On the day of the rally, the SWAT group was positioned within the second floor of the building that shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks later used throughout the day to shoot from, with the lead sharp shooter noting that the SWAT team was supposed to receive a “face-to-face briefing” with the Secret Service agents when they had arrived on site; however, it never happened.
 
“We were supposed to get a face-to-face briefing with the Secret Service snipers whenever they arrived, and that never happened. So I think that that was probably a pivotal point where I started thinking things were wrong because that never happened, and we had no communication with the Secret Service,” the lead SWAT sharpshooter said in the interview.

Katersky then pressed the lead sharpshooter of the team on his statement, asking if he had no communication from the Secret Service “at all on that Saturday.” The SWAT leader clarified that there was nothing from the agency “until after the shooting.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/lead-swat-sharpshooter-says-group-had-no-communication-with-secret-service-prior-to-trump-rally-attack/ar-BB1qMLOn?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=2b799023aab8455f818d9b579363042b&ei=14
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #855 on: July 29, 2024, 10:57:26 am »
Several related threads moved from Politics category to this existing thread on the assassination attempt.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #856 on: July 29, 2024, 10:58:20 am »

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« Reply #857 on: July 29, 2024, 11:12:34 am »
Extreme negligence and incompetence.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #858 on: July 29, 2024, 12:31:29 pm »
Excerpt from the article:
In a shocking turn of events, newly released footage from a previously confiscated phone shows that police were acutely aware of the shooter’s presence on a rooftop for an unusually extended period during former President Donald Trump’s rally in Nashville. Despite this alarming situation, the Secret Service failed to remove Trump from the stage, raising serious questions about the handling of the incident.

The footage, now made public by the phone’s owner, reveals that police officers had noticed the shooter, later identified as Thomas Crooks, and were visibly concerned about the threat he posed. One officer can be heard urgently communicating the sighting, while others can be seen pointing towards the rooftop where Crooks was positioned.

You can also hear a suppressed shot and see the muzzle flash in one of the 1st floor windows on the video. Plain as day.



Even more evidence of a massive criminal conspiracy!

It's so crystal clear now. This was an inside job. They didn't expect the shooter to miss.

All of the departments, organizations, etc in the federal need either to start from nothing again, or be completely gutted.

The federal government hates its own people.

https://redstatenation.com/new-video-previously-confiscated-by-fbi-shows-police-alarmed-by-shooter-on-rooftop-for-a-long-period-appears-to-show-possible-second-shooter-in-window-below-would-be-trump-assassin/

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #859 on: July 29, 2024, 01:07:44 pm »
Gab CEO Reveals Pro-Democrat Posts By Donald Trump Shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks
Leave a Comment / By Shay Bottomley / July 26, 2024


Thomas Matthew Crooks, the gunman at the infamous Donald Trump rally in Butler, PA, on Saturday, July 13, reportedly used the controversial right-wing social media platform Gab to express his “support of President [Joe] Biden.”

CEO Andrew Torba announced the news on Wednesday, July 24, after the company “received an emergency disclosure request” from law enforcement officials investigating the assassination attempt. Torba added that the company was “unable to confirm that the account in question actually belonged” to Crooks, which only posted nine times in February 2021.


The majority of the posts from the “epicMicrowave” account believed to have been Crooks’ were in support of President Biden. Most focused on a Biden administration executive order regarding immigration, although the account also posted a number of times concerning the results of the 2020 presidential election.

A sampling of his alleged comments can be read below.

https://wokespy.com/gab-ceo-reveals-pro-democrat-posts-by-donald-trump-shooter-thomas-matthew-crooks/
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #860 on: July 29, 2024, 01:45:37 pm »
Gab CEO Reveals Pro-Democrat Posts By Donald Trump Shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks
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« Reply #861 on: July 29, 2024, 01:46:55 pm »
Gab CEO Reveals Pro-Democrat Posts By Donald Trump Shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks
Leave a Comment / By Shay Bottomley / July 26, 2024


Thomas Matthew Crooks, the gunman at the infamous Donald Trump rally in Butler, PA, on Saturday, July 13, reportedly used the controversial right-wing social media platform Gab to express his “support of President [Joe] Biden.”

CEO Andrew Torba announced the news on Wednesday, July 24, after the company “received an emergency disclosure request” from law enforcement officials investigating the assassination attempt. Torba added that the company was “unable to confirm that the account in question actually belonged” to Crooks, which only posted nine times in February 2021.


The majority of the posts from the “epicMicrowave” account believed to have been Crooks’ were in support of President Biden. Most focused on a Biden administration executive order regarding immigration, although the account also posted a number of times concerning the results of the 2020 presidential election.

A sampling of his alleged comments can be read below.

https://wokespy.com/gab-ceo-reveals-pro-democrat-posts-by-donald-trump-shooter-thomas-matthew-crooks/

No surprise there.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #862 on: July 29, 2024, 01:47:17 pm »
Excerpt from the article:In a shocking turn of events, newly released footage from a previously confiscated phone
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #863 on: July 29, 2024, 01:49:38 pm »
FB/IG are censoring this image of Donald Trump pumping his fist as “misinformation.”

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1817976437053473050

Apparently, everything is misinformation to liars.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #864 on: July 29, 2024, 01:58:34 pm »
That's what they want you to think

They either botched the protection of the President or else they botched his assassination.

Either way they're guilty of extreme negligence and incompetence.
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« Reply #865 on: July 29, 2024, 02:35:40 pm »
They either botched the protection of the President or else they botched his assassination.

Either way they're guilty of extreme negligence and incompetence.
Well, when you put it that way...

Still, incompetence and negligence are the masks put on the face of malice.
There is no disguising the rabid malice this administration has professed and acted upon, by proxy and directly, against Donald J Trump.

Fecebook and others cannot remove every post that expresses that malice without stripping the platform down to its skeletal roots. You can only edit so much before there is nothing left.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #866 on: July 29, 2024, 04:40:11 pm »
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I’m still sifting through details, but the assassination attempt on Trump becomes more inexplicable as time passes by, not less. Moreover, the media’s lack of curiosity and what appears to be a coordinated effort to minimize or erase the attack from public memory just deepens my suspicions. This is one of the most important events in American history, and I can’t imagine what the country would look like now had the shooter been successful, but the only people who seem at all interested in getting to the bottom of it are institutional outsiders… Very strange, but we’ve seen this before, and that makes my blood run cold.
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https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1817756438552367209
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #867 on: July 29, 2024, 05:52:06 pm »
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Gave this up in a search for Ivermectin and COVID: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/pdf/ajt-28-e299.pdf

Try finding that on Google...

Assassination attempt brought "on Trump" as first possibility, results: https://luxxle.com/luxsearch?q=assassination%20attempt%20on%20trump

We'll see how well this holds up, but I think I will be looking there first.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #868 on: July 29, 2024, 06:18:45 pm »
Maxwell Yearick is the Second Sniper at Trump Rally  ...
This guy says Yearick's father worked on the development of the collapsible AR-15 used in the Trump shooting.

https://twitter.com/RealGeorgeWebb1/status/1817703741128356322
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« Reply #869 on: July 29, 2024, 07:04:45 pm »
Dunno about that. Collapsible stocks on Stoner variant rifles go back to the 1960s (Mainly special forces) but were much more common for their adjustability from the '70s on.
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« Reply #870 on: July 30, 2024, 05:44:47 am »
FB/IG are censoring this image of Donald Trump pumping his fist as “misinformation.”

Apparently, everything is misinformation to liars.

Backtrack:

Facebook admits 'mistake' in censoring iconic Trump assassination attempt photo: 'This was an error'

https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/facebook-admits-censoring-iconic-trump-assassination-attempt-photo-this-error

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Facebook wrongly called the popular image of Donald Trump pumping his fist in the air after an assassination attempt against him an "altered photo," a spokesperson admitted Monday.

Users across X shared reports that their Facebook accounts were labeling the image as "altered", explaining "Independent fact-checkers reviewed a similar photo and said it was altered in a way that could mislead people."

Meta Public Affairs Director Dani Lever later explained on X it was done in error as the systems were meant to detect a separate version of the image."This was an error. This fact check was initially applied to a doctored photo showing the secret service agents smiling, and in some cases our systems incorrectly applied that fact check to the real photo. This has been fixed, and we apologize for the mistake," Lever wrote.

Meanwhile, Google also got caught programming their AI algorithm to diminish or shadow ban all articles about assassination attempt. 

Google responds to Elon Musk’s accusations of a ‘search ban’ on Trump: ‘We’re working on improvements’ to auto-complete results

https://fortune.com/2024/07/29/google-trump-search-ban-elon-musk-response/

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Google has responded to Elon Musk, Donald Trump Jr., and other top GOP figures’ accusations that the search engine is interfering in the election with its auto-complete results.

On Sunday evening, several X users posted photos showing that when they typed “assassination attempt on” into Google’s search engine, the website showed only auto-complete results for assassination attempts on former President Ronald Reagan, Bob Marley, and other figures, omitting the July 14 attempt on former President Donald Trump’s life.

Even when Fortune typed in “assassination attempt on Trump” on Chrome using incognito mode, no auto-complete showed up on the results. Clicking “enter” on the result, however, yielded several recent news articles about the incident in Butler, Pa.

Elon Musk, who owns X, also weighed in, posting a photo of him searching for “President Donald,” which suggested “President Donald Duck” before “President Donald Trump.”

“Wow, Google has a search ban on President Donald Trump,” Musk posted. “Election interference?”

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #871 on: July 30, 2024, 06:07:43 am »
IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK, WALKS LIKE A DUCK, QUACKS LIKE A DUCK, IT MUST BE A DUCK.

The assassination attempt on Trump should be perceived as a conspiracy until proven otherwise.  There have been enough folks who make a living at killing to say there are just too many incongruities for this to be just negligence.

TRUMP'S ASSASSINATION WAS PLANNED, AND THE GOVERNMENT WAS INVOLVED.  PERIOD

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« Reply #872 on: July 30, 2024, 07:23:01 am »
‘What I saw made me ashamed’: Head of Secret Service will address security failures in hearing on Trump assassination attempt
Story by Holmes Lybrand, CNN • 7h • 3 min read

 
The US Secret Service is adjusting how it approves security plans and bolstering security measures for protectees in the wake of the assassination attempt against Donald Trump earlier this month, according to excerpts of congressional testimony Acting Secret Service Director Ronald Rowe will deliver Tuesday.
 
Rowe, who visited the site of the shooting in Butler, Pennsylvania, earlier this month, will tell senators from the Homeland Security and Judiciary committees: “What I saw made me ashamed. As a career law enforcement officer, and a twenty-five-year veteran with the Secret Service, I cannot defend why that roof was not better secured.”

According to the prepared remarks, Rowe has directed the Secret Service to have multiple experienced supervisors go through each security plan for all future protected sites and events.
 
Rowe visited the scene of the assassination attempt as one of his first actions as acting director “to better understand how our protection failed,” he will testify.
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/what-i-saw-made-me-ashamed-head-of-secret-service-will-address-security-failures-in-hearing-on-trump-assassination-attempt/ar-BB1qR2fz?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=11a9a8065fb24286a1e90342f01125ad&ei=61
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« Reply #873 on: July 30, 2024, 07:34:51 am »
Facebook admits it wrongly censored iconic photo of bleeding Trump pumping his fist after assassination attempt: ‘This was an error’
Story by Ariel Zilber • 16h


Facebook acknowledged that it mistakenly censored the iconic image of former President Donald Trump with his fist raised in the immediate aftermath of the July 13 assassination attempt in Pennsylvania.

A post on Mark Zuckerberg’s social media site by a user with the handle End Wokeness that showed the Republican presidential candidate defiantly pumping his fist in the air while blood streams down his face had initially been flagged as misinformation.
 
The user was threatened with being deplatformed.

However, on Monday, Dani Lever, a spokesperson for the social network’s parent company, Meta, admitted the tech giant made a “mistake.”

“Yes, this was an error,” Lever wrote on X in response to conservative influencer Charlie Kirk, who had called out Facebook for not allowing users to share the photo.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/facebook-admits-it-wrongly-censored-iconic-photo-of-bleeding-trump-pumping-his-fist-after-assassination-attempt-this-was-an-error/ar-BB1qQfOH?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=11a9a8065fb24286a1e90342f01125ad&ei=81
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #874 on: July 30, 2024, 07:36:06 am »
I doubt Facebook thinks their censorship was wrong.  What they feel was wrong was they got caught. :whistle:
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