Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]

[Ghost Bear]

Two Twitter posts from Sen. Chuck Grassley, with information his office has obtained from local law enforcement:

https://twitter.com/ChuckGrassley/status/1815875737435484582

https://twitter.com/ChuckGrassley/status/1815875286283538663

Edit: not sure why the second one isn't displaying, maybe because it is marked as "Sensitive Content".  It's video taken from the bodycam of one of the law enforcement officers on the roof, after the shooter was killed. Clicking the link should work, if you want to see it.

[Hoodat]

Finally:

Ron Johnson reveals 8 shell casings were found near Trump would-be assassin's body

Hannah Nightingale  |  07/23/2024

Senator Ron Johnson revealed on Human Events Daily Tuesday eight shell casings were found near the body of Thomas Matthew Crooks, the 20-year-old who attempted to assassinate Donald Trump at a Pennsylvania rally on July 13.

"We have spoken to two eyewitnesses and someone else who also has knowledge from the FBI that there were eight shell casings found near the dead body," Johnson told Jack Posobiec, noting that now former United Secret Service head Kimberley Cheatle would not answer that question in a hearing on Monday.

"Eyewitnesses have confirmed, two of them, that say there were eight shell casings, and another individual said that’s what the FBI reported as well."

In a press release following his appearance on the show, Johnson wrote, "On July 22, 2024, during testimony before the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, then-Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle, refused to answer questions about the number of shell casings found near the body of would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks."  .  .  .

https://www.humanevents.com/2024/07/23/breaking-ron-johnson-reveals-8-shell-casings-were-found-near-trump-would-be-assassins-body

[MeganC]

Finally:

Ron Johnson reveals 8 shell casings were found near Trump would-be assassin's body

Hannah Nightingale  |  07/23/2024

Senator Ron Johnson revealed on Human Events Daily Tuesday eight shell casings were found near the body of Thomas Matthew Crooks, the 20-year-old who attempted to assassinate Donald Trump at a Pennsylvania rally on July 13.

"We have spoken to two eyewitnesses and someone else who also has knowledge from the FBI that there were eight shell casings found near the dead body," Johnson told Jack Posobiec, noting that now former United Secret Service head Kimberley Cheatle would not answer that question in a hearing on Monday.

"Eyewitnesses have confirmed, two of them, that say there were eight shell casings, and another individual said that’s what the FBI reported as well."

In a press release following his appearance on the show, Johnson wrote, "On July 22, 2024, during testimony before the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, then-Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle, refused to answer questions about the number of shell casings found near the body of would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks."  .  .  .

https://www.humanevents.com/2024/07/23/breaking-ron-johnson-reveals-8-shell-casings-were-found-near-trump-would-be-assassins-body

And how many shell casing belonged to the shooter and how many belonged to someone else?

[jafo2010]

mountaineer...
That may be it. But I can't help but just wonder how this 20-y/o with no apparent connections just happened to know security would be so utterly lax that day.

That is not it!!!  There are too many considerations in this assassination attempt that scream conspiracy to kill Donald Trump.  If all of you cannot see this event was clearly planned and executed to accomplish the death of Donald Trump, that there is no clear motive from a 20 year old wet behind the ears punk, and that there was what amounted to no security for a former POTUS and leading candidate for his party, what exactly does it take to wake you up?

Right now on TV, the House of Representatives committee is interviewing Director Christopher Wray, and he is every bit as clueless as the Director of the Secret Service.  Wray, an appointee of President Donald Trump, has  been a turd from day one.  He should have been fired long ago.  His bureau is investigating this assassination attempt, he he does not know the detail from the investigation his bureau is collecting on this event.  Pathetic!!!

Half his answers are evasive with his not possessing any knowledge.  The other half is just his outright not knowing details on anything.  If he is incapable of marshalling the information on such an important investigation, he should bring with him the resources or resources that CAN ANSWER questions. 

This dog and pony show that produces absolutely nothing, wasting the time of members of Congress has to end.  If he can't answer the questions, fire his dumb *ss and get someone in front of Congress that can answer questions.

[jafo2010]

And I say there was NO SECURITY for this reason.  Half the buildings with clear line of sight to the platform and podium where Trump stood were not defended, leaving a 20 year old with clear access to fire EIGHT BULLETS at Trump before any effort was launched to stop the shooter.  An individual that was not a trained sniper, but a kid who went to a gun club and was target shooting once in awhile.

That wide open door inviting the inexperienced to kill a public figure in the USA clearly spells out one of two things.  Either Trump was intentionally setup for an assassination, or the Secret Service is grossly incompetent.  With the history of the Secret Service, they have not proven to be the latter.  This was a planned assassination, with someone in the detail, possibly the advance team, and perhaps directions from higher ups to make this assassination a done deal. 

And if the SS Sniper team was instructed to hold fire on an identified potential shooter, which the sniper team had eyes on, then that individual should be indicted as a co-conspirator to murder.  Perhaps if people get indicted for participating in this assassination attempt, we will get to the truth of what actually happened.  But these empty investigations will produce next to nothing.

Wray is a complete empty suit that heads up 38,000 empty suits.  I am tired of hearing about how great the FBI is, when we have the number of attacks on USA soil that they let slip through their fingers.  It is more than incompetence, it is INTENT!!!

[libertybele]

And I say there was NO SECURITY for this reason.  Half the buildings with clear line of sight to the platform and podium where Trump stood were not defended, leaving a 20 year old with clear access to fire EIGHT BULLETS at Trump before any effort was launched to stop the shooter.  An individual that was not a trained sniper, but a kid who went to a gun club and was target shooting once in awhile.

That wide open door inviting the inexperienced to kill a public figure in the USA clearly spells out one of two things.  Either Trump was intentionally setup for an assassination, or the Secret Service is grossly incompetent.  With the history of the Secret Service, they have not proven to be the latter.  This was a planned assassination, with someone in the detail, possibly the advance team, and perhaps directions from higher ups to make this assassination a done deal. 

And if the SS Sniper team was instructed to hold fire on an identified potential shooter, which the sniper team had eyes on, then that individual should be indicted as a co-conspirator to murder.  Perhaps if people get indicted for participating in this assassination attempt, we will get to the truth of what actually happened.  But these empty investigations will produce next to nothing.

Wray is a complete empty suit that heads up 38,000 empty suits.  I am tired of hearing about how great the FBI is, when we have the number of attacks on USA soil that they let slip through their fingers.  It is more than incompetence, it is INTENT!!!

Amen!

[DefiantMassRINO]

With whom was the shooter communicating using an encrypted messenger app?

 

His handlers in Havana, Moscow, or Rehoboth Beach?

[Free Vulcan]

Crooks sure was punching way above his weight for some nerdy, inexperienced 20 year old college student.

[Bigun]

And I say there was NO SECURITY for this reason.  Half the buildings with clear line of sight to the platform and podium where Trump stood were not defended, leaving a 20 year old with clear access to fire EIGHT BULLETS at Trump before any effort was launched to stop the shooter.  An individual that was not a trained sniper, but a kid who went to a gun club and was target shooting once in awhile.

That wide open door inviting the inexperienced to kill a public figure in the USA clearly spells out one of two things.  Either Trump was intentionally setup for an assassination, or the Secret Service is grossly incompetent.  With the history of the Secret Service, they have not proven to be the latter.  This was a planned assassination, with someone in the detail, possibly the advance team, and perhaps directions from higher ups to make this assassination a done deal. 

And if the SS Sniper team was instructed to hold fire on an identified potential shooter, which the sniper team had eyes on, then that individual should be indicted as a co-conspirator to murder.  Perhaps if people get indicted for participating in this assassination attempt, we will get to the truth of what actually happened.  But these empty investigations will produce next to nothing.

Wray is a complete empty suit that heads up 38,000 empty suits.  I am tired of hearing about how great the FBI is, when we have the number of attacks on USA soil that they let slip through their fingers.  It is more than incompetence, it is INTENT!!!

@jafo2010 Back on page 3 of this thread I posted the following;

I've been watching and reading everything I could find about this incident for more than 48 hours now and think I have some idea about what took place. If what I think took place is true, you'll see it only here so pay attention.

The people responsible for this set the young man up to be the patsy (hat tip @jafo2010 ) used him to make sure he drew all the attention while the actual pro was on the roof of the building just behind the one the kid was on wearing attire (rifle and all) that blended with the building. When the kid opened up, the pro took one shot (the one that nearly did the job). When the counter snipers opened up on he kid, the pro slid down from his perch, got in his car, and calmly drove away.

Call me anything you want but that's what I think and it fits the MO.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,536820.msg3045347.html#msg3045347

Since then I have heard or seen nothing that would cause me to alter that opinion in the slightest except to say that the pro may well have been in rather than on the building mentioned above..

[mountaineer]

The CEO of Gab alleges they found an account that may have belonged to Thomas Crooks, the would-be assassin ...

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1816205628123058420

https://twitter.com/BasedTorba/status/1816189333432590715

[Elderberry]

Matt Wallace
@MattWallace888
🚨BOMBSHELL CONCLUSION: EITHER HE WASN’T THE REAL SHOOTER OR SOMEONE TAMPERED WITH THE EVIDENCE‼️

Hear me out AND SHARE EVERYWHERE…

How did the riffle get more than 10 feet away from Thomas Matthew Crooks with no trail of blood between it and his body? ⚠️

He was reportedly taken out by a bullet between the eyes almost immediately after his last shot was fired right? So they expect us to believe he left his gun there and army crawled sideways 10 feet with superhuman speed before getting shot?

It makes no sense to move in that fashion OR in that direction away from the ladder/woods! We also know he didn’t throw the gun afterwards because headshots like that are instantly fatal.

I WILL CONTINUE WORKING EXHAUSTIVELY ON THIS CASE UNTIL THE TRUTH IS UNCOVERED‼️

[Smokin Joe]

@jafo2010 Back on page 3 of this thread I posted the following;

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,536820.msg3045347.html#msg3045347

Since then I have heard or seen nothing that would cause me to alter that opinion in the slightest except to say that the pro may well have been in rather than on the building mentioned above..

Didn't have to be on the roof, could have been inside, shooting from inside with a suppressed weapon through the open window (to contain the sound signature even more).
Tidy up and walk while everyone is distracted by the patsy.

[MeganC]

How did the riffle get more than 10 feet away from Thomas Matthew Crooks with no trail of blood between it and his body? ⚠️

Because law enforcement officers always remove the weapon from the perp at a crime scene. Just in case he's not really dead you don't want him to have his weapon handy.

[DB]

Because law enforcement officers always remove the weapon from the perp at a crime scene. Just in case he's not really dead you don't want him to have his weapon handy.

That's what I think too.

[Hoodat]

Did anyone ever confirm how many return fire shots were fired?

[DCPatriot]

That's what I think too.

@DB

What's a mystery to me...the roof is sloped. Crooks' head is elevated with his feet lower on the slope.  Gravity dictates that he shouldn't have shed that 'river' of blood which appears to even drip over the edge to the ground.

Realize that head wounds/cuts bleed profusely, but that pertains to a beating heart still pumping.

Seems to defy the laws of gravity.   

[DB]

@DB

What's a mystery to me...the roof is sloped. Crooks' head is elevated with his feet lower on the slope.  Gravity dictates that he shouldn't have shed that 'river' of blood which appears to even drip over the edge to the ground.

Realize that head wounds/cuts bleed profusely, but that pertains to a beating heart still pumping.

Seems to defy the laws of gravity.   

His head likely has a gaping hole in it. The brain stem controls the heart so his heart could have continued to pump blood for a short while, while otherwise being brain dead. Also, the entry wound would be on the front of his head. With him face down on the roof a good portion of his body is still higher than the entry wound on the shallow roof slope. So it could continue to drain for awhile.

[jafo2010]

Until it is declared that officer such and such moved the weapon from the side of the body, I do not think it wise to assume anything.

News reports indicated Crooks fired eight shots.  EIGHT SHOTS!  EIGHT SHOTS!  EIGHT SHOTS!

What were these Secret Service sniper pukes doing on that roof?  I say either jerking each other off, or following orders to hold their fire until Trump is down. 


               E I G H T         S H O T S !!!!!!!

Has anyone answered the question, does Trump have any of the same superior top notch Secret Service pukes STILL DEFENDING HIM?  Because all of them should be on suspension facing a hearing for their dismissal.  Please tell me none of these pukes are still actively protecting anyone?

[DCPatriot]

His head likely has a gaping hole in it. The brain stem controls the heart so his heart could have continued to pump blood for a short while, while otherwise being brain dead. Also, the entry wound would be on the front of his head. With him face down on the roof a good portion of his body is still higher than the entry wound on the shallow roof slope. So it could continue to drain for awhile.

@DB

Thanks much!   

[jafo2010]

This body is a significant distance from the rifle.  Did this punk actually fire eight shots, or is he a patsy, and someone dropped eight shells on the deck of that roof?

Remember, Vince Foster, the Clinton lawyer who they declared committed suicide, the gun was laying 12 feet from his body.  Sure, that happened that way.  I am sure the FBI conducted that investigation too.

Nothing adds up here.  I still say he is a patsy.  The real shooter was at the water tower, and escaped without so much as a wink and a nod from his co-conspirators at the Secret Service.  It was a conspiracy.

You would think if a law enforcement officer moved the rifle, that would be one of the first things they would mention.

And if that is the case, the sniper has a job to finish to get paid.  If life is like the movies, he told his contractor he will complete the job.  Trump is at more risk today than he was the day of the attempt at Butler, PA. 

I still say, the Democommies will do anything to see to it that Trump does not return as 47.

[Hoodat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWFP3vLJeSg

[Sighlass]

God, Family and Guns says the gun used was 2013 DPMS Panther Arms A15 chambered in 556/223 made in Saint Cloud Minn.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ZjRP1MDWs

[rangerrebew]

Whistleblower reveals why Trump rally officer assigned to shooter’s perch moved
Story by Audrey Conklin • 18h


I couldn’t believe how ‘close’ that shooter was to Trump: Sen Josh Hawley
Whistleblowers have told Republican Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley that a law enforcement officer who was assigned to monitor the roof of a building that would-be former President Trump assassin Thomas Crooks fired from on July 13 left their post because it was "too hot."

Crooks, 20, fired multiple rounds from the roof of American Glass Research (AGR) Building 6, which was outside the rally perimeter but had a direct line of sight to where the former president was standing on stage at his campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
 
"This comes from a whistleblower with direct knowledge of the Secret Service plan and setup that day," Hawley said. "And what this whistleblower tells my office is that there was at least one law enforcement person assigned to the roof itself. In other words, the plan called for a law enforcement individual to be on the roof at all times during the rally. And that did not happen. And what the whistleblower tells me is the law enforcement individual who was assigned to that roof abandoned it."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/whistleblower-reveals-why-trump-rally-officer-assigned-to-shooter-s-perch-moved/ar-BB1qywY6?ocid=widgetonlockscreen&cvid=36b021f9a15846f08443ce47c27ee873&ei=29

[mountaineer]

Crooks sure was punching way above his weight for some nerdy, inexperienced 20 year old college student.

He never even started college. He was a kitchen worker at an old folks home.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

This wouldn't surprise me.  It's also such an egregious failure that I could see there would be efforts to cover it up.

But even if it is true, that doesn't let everyone else off the hook.  That unidentified law enforcement officer had a direct supervisor who almost certainly knew, or at a minimum should have known, that the post was abandoned.  There also should have been a Secret Service supervisor responsible for monitoring those kind of assignments.