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« Reply #650 on: July 21, 2024, 02:36:20 am »
It all depends on the rifle. I had a Mini-14 that barked right proper, as loud as any .30 caliber rifle I own.

The salient point, especially comparing bullet cracks to muzzle sound (cause the bullet is faster, the sound arrives later, and the lag should be the same for every shot fired from the same rifle in the same place). Only they aren't.  That means more rifles. Check out the video. The analysis seems pretty tight to me.

That's right. I can buy into a lot of that vid. I said from the start that it sounds like 2 different guns.

However - In his analysis... You and me both know that the bullet that actually struck him was 20 cal. Ain't no way 30 cal made that hole... And even in 20 cal - Say a 7mm mag, which is what, a .243?? A big round like a 7mm mag would have blown his ear right off. So what struck him is consistent with a relatively low powered 20 cal... the .223 is the candidate. I was saying .223/.243/5.56 all the way along.

The interesting thing is that the vic in the upper left grandstand is supposed to be that same shot. Everybody says so.

But I think that poof is vapor trail from the exit wound... I don't think his supposition is right that it was a nick on the railing shattering the bullet. That looks like all vapor coming out of the exit wound. That ain't no .223 making all that spray. That's big iron. That's a 30 cal, maybe, or a very high powered 20 cal.

I don't know what to do with that.

But I DO agree. There are two different guns going off. I said I thought that was overwatch - Those first thee big, ordered shots... Then another three ordered shots... Then a final one. That's a different rifle than the one making the rat-a-tat fast ordered shots.

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« Reply #651 on: July 21, 2024, 08:00:30 am »
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The regime deliberately starved Trump of the security he needed because it wanted to create the conditions that would lead to an assassination while retaining a veneer of plausible deniability.

People need to spend the rest of their lives in prison for what happened.
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« Reply #652 on: July 21, 2024, 08:33:51 am »
The Greatest Troll Ever by Trump But Not Many Understood It

BY JOE HYDE LIVE, JUL 19, 2024

MILWAUKEE, WI — At the end of former President and U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump's 90-minute acceptance speech, the sounds of opera opened with "Nessun Dorma" ("Let No One Sleep"), a majestic musical piece performed by tenor Christopher Maccio. This took place in Milwaukee's Fiserv Forum at the conclusion of the National Republican Convention early in the morning, around 12:10 a.m., after Trump's speech.

"Nessun Dorma" is an aria from the final act of Giacomo Puccini's opera "Turandot" and one of the most popular tenor arias in all of opera. The aria is sung by the character Calaf, il principe ignoto (the unknown prince), who falls in love at first sight with the beautiful but cold Princess Turandot. Any man who wishes to wed Turandot must first answer her three riddles. If he fails, he will be beheaded. In the aria, Calaf expresses his triumphant assurance that he will win the princess.

However, the aria also has a more sinister connotation beyond its original intention in the opera. It is featured in the 2002 film "The Sum of All Fears," based on Tom Clancy's 1991 novel. This political thriller, a sequel to "Clear and Present Danger" (1989), involves CIA Deputy Director Jack Ryan, who attempts to prevent a nuclear war between the U.S. and the Soviet Union circa 1985. Ryan faces entrenched bureaucrats from both sides and a missing nuclear warhead, which each side uses to further their agendas.At the end of the movie, Ryan is triumphant in preventing a nuclear holocaust, and "Nessun Dorma" plays. The camera shifts to various antagonists who meet their deaths by car bombs, throat slashing, and other means. Watch the end of "The Sum of All Fears" here.



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« Reply #653 on: July 21, 2024, 08:36:54 am »
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The regime deliberately starved Trump of the security he needed because it wanted to create the conditions that would lead to an assassination while retaining a veneer of plausible deniability.

People need to spend the rest of their lives in prison for what happened.

Must focus on individuals that make decisions, not organizations.

It has been a fallacy for some time to attack say, the DOJ or HHS rather than Garland, Mayorkas and their minions.

We will continue to have these problems otherwise.

The Dems know this.  It is why the likes of Navarro, Bannon and the hundreds of J6 have gone to jail, and guilty verdicts against Stone and Giuliani, in order to squash conservatives.

There are many who deserve jail time from Lerner to Hillary.

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« Reply #654 on: July 21, 2024, 08:38:11 am »
Never ascribe to malevolence which can merely explained by incompetence. The Biden admin is probably the most incompetent admin in U.S. history headed by the most incompetent president ever, Joe Biden.
Attribute to Biden incompetence, but not his handlers.

They are maliciously evil.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #655 on: July 21, 2024, 10:43:21 am »
COVER-UP: FBI Tries to Kick Out Senator Josh Hawley at Assassination Attempt Site Despite Having Local Security Operator’s Permission — “Get Out of Here. You Shouldn’t Be on the Site”

by Jim Hᴏft Jul. 20, 2024 12:40 pm



During an explosive interview with Sean Hannity, Missouri Senator Josh Hawley revealed shocking information about the recent assassination attempt on President Trump.

Allegations of incompetence, lack of coordination, and a gross disregard for security protocols have been leveled against the Secret Service and other federal agencies involved in protecting the President.

    Sean Hannity: Tell us what these whistleblowers are telling you that is most alarming to you.

    Josh Hawley: Well, one thing is that most of the detail assigned to Trump that day, into that rally, were not Secret Service. Most of them were from other federal agencies, including Homeland Security. And, Sean, they weren’t prepared.

    They didn’t know what the procedures were. They did not have the site locked down. They were not adequately patrolling the perimeter. As you just said a moment ago, they were leaving huge gaps.

    Whistleblowers also tell us that they were allowing people to come into the grounds who weren’t checked. They weren’t monitoring who was getting up around the stage. I mean, it’s unbelievable, Sean.

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« Reply #656 on: July 21, 2024, 11:16:40 am »
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« Reply #657 on: July 21, 2024, 11:36:36 am »
It all depends on the rifle. I had a Mini-14 that barked right proper, as loud as any .30 caliber rifle I own.

The salient point, especially comparing bullet cracks to muzzle sound (cause the bullet is faster, the sound arrives later, and the lag should be the same for every shot fired from the same rifle in the same place). Only they aren't.  That means more rifles. Check out the video. The analysis seems pretty tight to me.

And you can hear multiple cracks from a bullet, if it flies by close to an object. As a kid, I'd shoot my .22 in the country down the line of telephone poles and hear all the cracks as it passed by each pole. That .22 had a 26 in bbl. I got to compare it's loudness, shooting subsonic ammo, with a neighbor's silenced 22 he built to sell to cities pest control riflemen. My 22 was quieter than his silenced rifles.

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« Reply #658 on: July 21, 2024, 12:31:10 pm »
Why the heck is the ATF involved in this?
Maria Bartiromo says a mystery man in a gray suit climbed on top of the structure where Crooks had shot from to apparently confirm Crooks’ death, told police to send the photos to the ATF.

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1815040597943779641
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« Reply #659 on: July 21, 2024, 12:47:17 pm »
Why the heck is the ATF involved in this?
Maria Bartiromo says a mystery man in a gray suit climbed on top of the structure where Crooks had shot from to apparently confirm Crooks’ death, told police to send the photos to the ATF.

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1815040597943779641

Supposedly the investigation into Trump's attempted assassination is their top priority. *****rollingeyes*****

The Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said it was assisting FBI and other federal law enforcement, calling it a “top priority” but noting it could offer no further comment.


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« Reply #660 on: July 21, 2024, 02:55:16 pm »
Even after this one out of three Democrats believe that Trump staged his own assassination attempt. This is the state of the Democrat Party.

It was an intentional security stand down - With an understanding that there would be a shooter, and that they should not intervene until after the attempted assassination has taken place.

I’ve seen all I need to at this point.

Dark times...

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« Reply #661 on: July 21, 2024, 02:56:54 pm »
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This morning, Senator Ron Johnson went on Maria Bartiromo’s show and said he has learned that right after Thomas Matthew Crooks was shot and killed, a guy in a grey suit climbed up the ladder and onto the roof where the shooter’s dead body was and started asking the local law enforcement to send pictures of Crooks’s dead body to him.

Maria Bartiromo later confirmed a mystery man in a gray suit climbed on top of the structure where Crooks had shot from to apparently confirm Crooks’ de*th, told police to send the photos to the ATF.
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« Reply #662 on: July 21, 2024, 03:17:24 pm »
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This morning, Senator Ron Johnson went on Maria Bartiromo’s show and said he has learned that right after Thomas Matthew Crooks was shot and killed, a guy in a grey suit climbed up the ladder and onto the roof where the shooter’s dead body was and started asking the local law enforcement to send pictures of Crooks’s dead body to him.

Maria Bartiromo later confirmed a mystery man in a gray suit climbed on top of the structure where Crooks had shot from to apparently confirm Crooks’ de*th, told police to send the photos to the ATF.

The man in the Grey Suit is in the wind. 
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« Reply #663 on: July 21, 2024, 05:39:29 pm »
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« Reply #664 on: July 21, 2024, 07:44:42 pm »
Sen. Ron Johnson Drops Bombshell Preliminary Findings in Investigation into Attempted Assassination of President Trump — Here are the Details
by Jim Hᴏft Jul. 21, 2024 2:40 pm

On Sunday, after his explosive interview with Maria Bartiromo, Rep. Ron Johnson (R-WI) released his 13-page preliminary findings on the investigation into the attempted assassination of President Trump.

Senator Ron Johnson, responding to the alarming circumstances surrounding the attack, has taken immediate action by reaching out to key federal officials, including Attorney General Merrick Garland, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, and FBI Director Christopher Wray.

In his letter, Johnson demanded the preservation of all records related to the security of the rally, background information on the alleged gunman, and communications between law enforcement agencies, including the Secret Service, from July 11 to July 14, 2024.

“The lack of transparency from federal entities regarding this assassination attempt is unacceptable,” according to the summary of the preliminary investigation. “Congress and the public deserve a full explanation and complete answers to all questions regarding the failure of security at the Butler rally.”

According to local law enforcement, the Secret Service initially had no plans to deploy snipers to the rally.
Below are the key findings, according to the investigation:

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #665 on: July 21, 2024, 10:10:58 pm »
I would think it came from a window in the building immediately BEHIND Crooks...killing him.  :shrug:
'Texas heart shot'?
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« Reply #666 on: July 22, 2024, 07:30:33 am »
Never ascribe to malevolence which can merely explained by incompetence. The Biden admin is probably the most incompetent admin in U.S. history headed by the most incompetent president ever, Joe Biden.
Directed by the most malevolent, Obama.
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« Reply #668 on: July 22, 2024, 10:17:57 am »
Anyone watching or listening to the Cheatle hearing?
Jamie Raskin is currently railing against this horrible attack by an AR-15.  *****rollingeyes*****

 .... aaaaaannnnnnddd there's the call for an 'assault weapons ban'. 
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« Reply #669 on: July 22, 2024, 10:26:35 am »
Anyone watching or listening to the Cheatle hearing?
Jamie Raskin is currently railing against this horrible attack by an AR-15.  *****rollingeyes*****

 .... aaaaaannnnnnddd there's the call for an 'assault weapons ban'.

Thanks for watching and letting us know what's happening; you are saving me the aggravation.   :beer:

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« Reply #670 on: July 22, 2024, 10:32:40 am »
I'm watching...she is Not answering any question...*Still under investigation* is her answer to all questions so far..
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« Reply #671 on: July 22, 2024, 10:46:29 am »
The Dems agenda here is to make the hearings about gun control...The Repubs ask good questions but get no answers as this is still an open investigation...a waste of time... 9999hair out0000
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« Reply #672 on: July 22, 2024, 10:55:16 am »
The Dems agenda here is to make the hearings about gun control...The Repubs ask good questions but get no answers as this is still an open investigation...a waste of time... 9999hair out0000

Not surprising that their agenda is now making this about gun control.
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« Reply #673 on: July 22, 2024, 11:35:40 am »
The Dems agenda here is to make the hearings about gun control...The Repubs ask good questions but get no answers as this is still an open investigation...a waste of time... 9999hair out0000

A waste of time as she will NOT answer any questions...using the excuse that there is an "...ongoing investigation".

Told you all so...
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« Reply #676 on: July 22, 2024, 11:42:49 am »
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I'm serious. This is 10 times worse than the Claudine Gay hearing. This is the worst testimony I've ever heard, and I've been watching these hearings for 40 years.
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« Reply #678 on: July 22, 2024, 11:45:29 am »
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Is this a joke? DC Democratic Congresswoman Norton is citing DC gun laws to call for additional gun control. Murders in DC were up 36 percent last year despite these laws. She's also randomly talking about lawful concealed carry in DC during a hearing about Butler, PA.
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Adjourn the hearing, hold Kim Cheatle in inherent contempt of Congress, and direct the Sergeant at Arms to take her into custody.
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Cheatle, a degenerate liar who deserves to spend the rest of her life in prison, just said not a single person in the entire Secret Service has been disciplined or fired since her agency allowed Donald Trump to be shot in the head during a campaign rally.
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« Reply #683 on: July 22, 2024, 12:04:57 pm »
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Cheatle, a degenerate liar who deserves to spend the rest of her life in prison, just said not a single person in the entire Secret Service has been disciplined or fired since her agency allowed Donald Trump to be shot in the head during a campaign rally.

Why would she fire Secret Service agents when so few of them were there?  :whistle:
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« Reply #684 on: July 22, 2024, 12:16:30 pm »
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After leaving the oversight briefing this morning, I’m more convinced than ever that Crooks wasn’t working alone.
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« Reply #685 on: July 22, 2024, 12:54:09 pm »
Anyone watching or listening to the Cheatle hearing?
Jamie Raskin is currently railing against this horrible attack by an AR-15.  *****rollingeyes*****

 .... aaaaaannnnnnddd there's the call for an 'assault weapons ban'.
Of course if the punk had used a rifle in a more appropriate caliber with an actual scope, Trump might be dead. There is no way I believe that he was the shooter, getting that close to killing Trump with an old inexpensive AR using a crappy red dot sight. So what it comes down to is we will never know who the shooter was or what he was actually using that day.

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« Reply #686 on: July 22, 2024, 01:06:15 pm »

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Clean up on aisle Cheatle.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #689 on: July 22, 2024, 01:15:26 pm »
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Clean up on aisle Cheatle.

Asbestos wouldn't save this  lady today.  It's a massacre

If I had been on the daise, my questioning would simply be like this....

You are obviously wasting everyone's time, so instead of questioning, I'll suggest to you that that this is almost the most embarrassing level of incompetence ever seen in the Feds, and the fact you haven't resigned,  held your head in shame, and went into hiding is quite remarkable.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #692 on: July 22, 2024, 01:21:36 pm »
twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1815433607223353769

"WOW: Director Kim Cheatle confirms that fierce Trump critic Sheila Jackson Lee was heavily  involved in the oversight of the Secret Service."


Oh....  the same SJL was asked the NASA Engineers to show her the Astronaunt's Flag that they planted on Mars? 
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #693 on: July 22, 2024, 02:10:05 pm »
Very little will come of this, unfortunately. Likely, perfidy is hiding behind a mask of incompetence. (ain't DEI beautiful? plausible deniability is written in!)

One side is angry because the shooter(s) got a shot, the other because he missed.

Conservatives would not shoot a President (or candidate), simply because it would invigorate the ever-present effort to further infringe the RKBA.
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« Reply #694 on: July 22, 2024, 02:24:37 pm »
There are political theatrics on both sides, but Ms. Cheatle is stonewalling the congressional inquiry.  She refuses to provide a date on which she can forward the most basic information.  If I'm Trump, I hire my own security, and tell the Secret Service to stand by. 

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« Reply #695 on: July 22, 2024, 02:26:37 pm »
Room starts cracking up after USSS director Kim Cheatle fumbles her words & claims she has a "timeline that does not have specifics" of the day Trump was nearly assas*inated.

MTG: "How did [Crooks] fly a drone over the rally area?"

Cheatle: "I would have to check the timeline." ...

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« Reply #698 on: July 22, 2024, 02:42:40 pm »
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At 10 am ET today, White House Chief of Staff Jeff Zients is holding a MANDATORY call from all White House staff, followed by a call for all political appointees in the Biden administration at 11 am.

We may be getting close to a full blown Resignation from @JoeBiden
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His medical condition is now terminal, from what sources have told me.
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His medical condition is now terminal, from what sources have told me.

WTH is going on..
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