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« Reply #400 on: July 17, 2024, 09:13:01 pm »
 pointing-down   The bottom line truth:

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At some point before Trump walked on stage, Secret Service knew there was an armed gunman on that roof.

And they let Trump walk onto the stage anyway.

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« Reply #401 on: July 17, 2024, 09:34:09 pm »
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BREAKING - PunchBowl is reporting: Senate briefing on Trump rally shooting just concluded. Top lines, per 2 senators on the call:

—The shooter visited the rally site a few days in advance to scope it out
—62 mins elapsed between the time the shooter was photographed as being suspicious and when he fired the shots
—20 mins elapsed between the time he was spotted by snipers & when he fired the shots
—FBI Director Wray said there’s no known foreign nexus but no established motive as of now. Shooter used encrypted comms and had little to no social media presence
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If the shooter used encrypted coms, then WHO was the shooter communicating with? and doesn't that shoot down the idea the shooter was acting alone?
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« Reply #402 on: July 17, 2024, 09:36:02 pm »
Translation; the kid was working with a pro.
At least one.
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« Reply #404 on: July 17, 2024, 11:01:14 pm »
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NEW: Review of Trump shooter's laptop found searches for Trump, Biden, 'when is DNC convention' and 'July 13 Trump rally'.

In a message on the gaming platform Steam, Crooks wrote: "July 13 will be my premiere, watch as it unfolds" - Fox
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« Reply #405 on: July 17, 2024, 11:16:56 pm »
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Jonathan Willis, the officer in the famous photo of the two snipers on the roof at Trump's rally, has informed the public that he had the assassin in his sights for at least 3 minutes, but the head of the Secret Service refused to give the order to take out the perpetrator. They prevented him from stopping the assassin before he took shots at President Trump and killed a spectator and wounded 2 others


Did not realize you started another thread, with 17 pages already.   Wow!


But in regard to the above, when I read this, it is CLEARLY EVIDENT, that this assassination was planned, choreographed, and with the FBI investigating, it will be put to bed like the evening edition when the press operator starts that press.  The story is already fixed.

BUT!!!  BIG BUT!!!

These conspirators, and I think it safe to say that word NOW, CONSPIRATORS, they did not count on that counter sniper shooting his mouth off.  He best watch his back, for I fear he has an accident coming soon.

This stinks, I tell you, to the high heavens!

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« Reply #406 on: July 17, 2024, 11:28:33 pm »

Did not realize you started another thread, with 17 pages already.   Wow!


But in regard to the above, when I read this, it is CLEARLY EVIDENT, that this assassination was planned, choreographed, and with the FBI investigating, it will be put to bed like the evening edition when the press operator starts that press.  The story is already fixed.

BUT!!!  BIG BUT!!!

These conspirators, and I think it safe to say that word NOW, CONSPIRATORS, they did not count on that counter sniper shooting his mouth off.  He best watch his back, for I fear he has an accident coming soon.

This stinks, I tell you, to the high heavens!
I agree, this stinks to high heaven on ice.

The nonsense will only fool those who want to be fooled, and are more comfortable with isolated senseless acts of violence than with the idea that there is the level of corruption among those who are sworn to protect that is evident. It only takes a couple bad apples to spoil the barrel, and in events like this just a couple key players whose perfidy can result in their desired outcome.

We don't have all the answers, actually just a few pieces of the puzzle and not the whole picture, but we are pretty safe to say the shooter did not act alone (otherwise, why have comms?).
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« Reply #407 on: July 17, 2024, 11:31:24 pm »
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 U.S. Secret Service resources were diverted to Jill Biden's event and away from Trump's because they followed agency protocol applying to Trump as a former president, according to two sources within the Secret Service community.


Think about this for one moment.  The First Lady requires resources diverted from a protectee to protect her.  Absolute f***ing lie.  I am sure the numbers standing by waiting to protect her are ten deep.  Don't believe for a nanosecond they diverted those resources because they had to.  If anything, they diverted those resources to weaken the protection provided to Trump.  Perhaps to remove resources that were not in on the planned kill for Trump. 

That's right, I am saying what we all are witnessing is a government sponsored assassination, and it went haywire.  And now they are struggling with the cover up, despite having experts at covering up sh*t like the stinking FBI. 

The next few months should be interesting.  But one thing is certain.  These government agencies cannot afford to have Trump become POTUS, because he may well make waves to get to the truth about who, what, where, when and how is behind this attempt against him.  The emphasis to take him out is elevated way beyond what we can imagine.

He better have his own team of security, because the Secret Service cannot be trusted, any more than the FBI.

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« Reply #408 on: July 17, 2024, 11:38:58 pm »
   I think it's very odd that the collective Americans ask themselves how this could ever happen again.  So quickly forgetting who was behind the JFK assassination.
No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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« Reply #409 on: July 17, 2024, 11:42:07 pm »
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On top of that they stood Trump up instead of continuing to surround him and cover him -- according to a report from Beck, Trump was shot a second time.  I have seen no other reports of this though.

Inside hit job? Absolutely. I have no doubt.


When I saw Trump stand up after being covered over for a minute or so, with a clean shot setup, my first thought was, what the f*** are they doing, they are exposing him to a would be 2nd shooter.  Every person on that detail should be terminated, with extreme prejudice.  All that training, and they let the protectee stand up and expose himself.  Ugggh!!!

You can smell the stink of this a full light year away!

This was a government assassination attempt, using the harvested kid to be the patsy.  I would not be surprised that at any given time, there are a score of such people being developed for just such an event.  Utterly clueless as to their role in the grand scheme of things.

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« Reply #410 on: July 18, 2024, 12:30:20 am »
If the shooter used encrypted coms, then WHO was the shooter communicating with? and doesn't that shoot down the idea the shooter was acting alone?

Signal is what was on his phone. If you use WhatsApp, or any number of other popular messaging tools, you too are capable of encrypted end-to-end comms.

I'll do you one better.... my family uses NEXT with specialized custom add-ons... the whole family cloud is encrypted. There is nothing nefarious about that.

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« Reply #411 on: July 18, 2024, 01:21:57 am »
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 With Trump recently saying that Pompeo talked him out of what was Legally required~Release all the JFK assassination records, He now says he'll do it.
   I'd bet also he'll get to the bottom of this assassination attempt on him and release ALL THE RECORDS on this.
   Some heads will indubitably roll, no doubt.

The real question here, why did Trump NOT release this information when he had a chance?  WHY???  Trump obviously covered for several government organizations, CIA, FBI, and who knows who/what else.  If there was substance there that pointed to government agencies, he would have had the ability to change things within that agency.  He did nothing.  A BIG FAT NOTHING!!!  And don't think for a moment anything has changed since 1963 when it comes to the abilities of these agencies.  If anything, they have become more adept at manipulation, control, cover up, etc.

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« Reply #412 on: July 18, 2024, 01:55:24 am »
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So, people in the Biden admin got all the SS agents to agree to assassinate Trump? And nobody objected or squealed to the media? Really?

You are STILL spewing this moronic thinking?  Absolutes of everyone.  Uggh.  Yes, every member of the Secret Service, including the ones stationed at the Artic were in on the assassination.

At a minimum, one of the key players at Butler, ONE decision maker, and ONE psy-op person manipulating Crooks.  And then, the people in the chain, perhaps as high as Mayorcas(or higher), that ordered the hit.  A small handful.  Small, get your dictionary out and read the definition of SMALL. Oh, and the assassin.  And he could of been anyone, domestic, foreign, but most likely dead and buried in a shallow grave, or fed into one of those tree chippers, and literally dust.  You and the rest of the world will NEVER know!

So many questions not being asked.  I have attended a Trump rally, and the area was sealed, requiring all attendees to go through the same equipment as at an airport.  How did the rifle Crooks had get within the secured area?  It had to be hidden in advance before security was established, which I would assume happened days prior to the event.  ONE SS agent, or ONE local LE person could have positioned the rifle with ammo in a safe place for Crooks.  I doubt he carried the rifle and ammo into the secured area.

Apparently, those of you that assume it was the ENTIRE SECRET SERVICE do little to no reading, watch few to no movies to have a reference of what it takes to establish a hit.  An excellent movie that portrays exactly what might have been involved is the movie THE PACKAGE, with Gene Hackman and Tommy Lee Jones.  And the movie includes a patsy that gets conveniently killed.  The conspirators included one assassin, and a handful of co-conspirators.  Had Hackman's character not been persistent, the assassination would have gone off smooth as silk.

In the case of Trump, it might not have been anything more than divine providence that saved his life.  With the info about the water tower, seen only on this thread, I have not heard a peep in our utterly WORTHLESS NEWS MEDIA, or REPORTS FROM THE F***STICKS conducting the investigation in news segments, this is clearly shaping up to a classic plot of pro assassin, and patsy chump who is clueless.

And for those of you waiting to see if any bullets gathered matching to one rifle or not, I will tell you now, DEFINITIVELY, that there will be evidence of ONE RIFLE ONLY PRESENTED, even if there were 2-4 rifles proven to have been used.  More than one rifle raises the status of the event to CONSPIRACY, and points that there are other players.  If the FBI can be counted on for anything, it is that their rug is fully capable of hiding half a planet of information.

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« Reply #413 on: July 18, 2024, 01:59:53 am »
Hanlon's Razor.

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« Reply #414 on: July 18, 2024, 02:07:38 am »
BTW, it appears Crooks attended Steel Valley Technical for part of his education.  Back in the day, it was people that did not have academic prowess that went there.  But today, with the following disciplines, I can see a greater mix of kids attending there.  Crooks had one gold rope around his neck in his graduation outfit, which means he graduated with honors.

Steel Valley Disciples:

- Construction
- Culinary
-  IT
-  Automotive
-  Mechanical

I believe Crooks was there for the IT focus.

My conclusion:  he is the perfect patsy.  PERFECT!!!!!

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« Reply #415 on: July 18, 2024, 04:03:04 am »
People should go to a Biden rally with backpacks, rangefinders, ladders and see if they are given free roam. Be sure to change your voting habits first and erase all leads to this forum. /end Sarcasm (don't come knocking SS).
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« Reply #416 on: July 18, 2024, 04:51:21 am »
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https://youtu.be/tVn_56UcCIc


Back on Page 13, you posted this video.  Interesting assessment by this guy, but in the end, I disagree with him.

Lots of mistakes made, or planned assassination?  I'll go with the planned assassination.  Why?  Because I know and I can count on those doing the investigation to completely cover up what they find.  Can you EVER imagine an agency like the FBI revealing a plot to kill anyone?  Hell no!!!  In the tradition of the man that built the FBI, they would use the data they discern to CONTROL people in the future and use it against them when it suits them.  The FBI has not changed one iota since Hoover ran the corrupt organization.

Don't hold your breath for the truth on this incident to be revealed.  Crooks is the perfect patsy, fall guy, and it is all shaping up nicely to focus EXCLUSIVELY on him.  No one of consequence will address the water tower.  NO ONE!  The final chapter in this escapade is all but written.  A well choreographed assassination, and either the shooter is in a shallow grave, chopped or rendered dust by one means or another, or sitting on a veranda with a huge chunk of money for his services, where he is promising he will make good on his contract.

I do not believe this is over.  Trump's life is at greater risk today than it was yesterday.  And even with the best protection, a person with the will to complete a contract, who has skills to do the job, and is not attempting to weave the event to a patsy, that individual will complete their mission, close or far away.

Trump must end his outdoor assemblies, for they are more difficult to defend.  And that brings us to The Parallax View, a movie that may well spell the NEXT EFFORT.  Watch the movie those of you that have not seen it or remember it.  I believe it is gives a precise account of what can happen.  Made in 1974, I was shocked when I saw it.  It felt so real at the time, like it was more a documentary versus Hollywood drama.


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« Reply #417 on: July 18, 2024, 05:09:45 am »
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Extract from transcript from Glenn Beck Show:

GLENN: So we're about to have Dallas Alexander on. Do you know who he is?

JASON: Oh, yeah. Very, very famous sniper here.

GLENN: Yeah. So he's a sniper, and he says, there's no way this happened without help. I don't want to go there. I don't want to believe that.

Because that takes us into an entirely different world.


Well, all of you, you better get to that entirely different world, because that is exactly where we are.  This is huge  HUGE!!!

You can accept what your gut is screaming, or you can accept the ready made cover up.  The moment I heard the FBI was heading this investigation, in that moment, I knew we the people would NOT hear the truth.  Not a f***ing word of it.

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« Reply #418 on: July 18, 2024, 06:16:19 am »
Again, listening to the recording of Glen Beck interviewing Dallas Alexander, a retired Canadian sniper with the world record kill of 2.1 miles.

Dallas through the interview:
'Someone within the inside had to help with this'.

'You cannot walk through layers of security like that and take a shot like that!'

'there had to be someone that helped with that'.

'I saw it flash on the TV screen at a restaurant, and that building and water tower in the background, you don't need special training  for that.  [implying to know those are places that need to be manned or watched!]

Ask about being in the position of counter sniper, did you or would you need to wait orders to fire at a would be sniper?

'in the jobs I have done, and I have the position of counter sniper, you are shooting and not waiting for permission.'

'not a hard shot'.

'without a lot of training, it is not a sure shot'.

'to miss something that obvious(Crooks, the sniper), there is not an explanation.'

Dallas also indicated that this cannot be explained away as incompetence either.  Too many holes here for that.  [As I have said all along, this was planned.  Perhaps because the patsy was rushed, the true shot never took place, or one of about a hundred explanations for why it executed the way it did.]

I believe this was a federal government planned hit on President Trump, and it had to be ordered by someone high enough to make all the pieces fall in place.  This was not the plan of a 20 year old boy, barely wet behind the ears.  He had co-conspirators.  And perhaps they are dead already.  I doubt we will ever hear a word of truth in the next 20-30 years.  And since Trump survived the attack, it will not carry the same curiosity as if he had been shot dead.  Like yesterday's news, this story will rest at the bottom of the bird cage, to use a line from a movie in the past.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f9_S_zEZ-I
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« Reply #419 on: July 18, 2024, 06:32:03 am »
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/the-undying-necessity-of-moral-courage-5687359


This is an EXCELLENT piece.  Everyone must read this.

And if I might add one more thought.  As I have said repeatedly, whoever runs the show, if they decide to use the ones and zeroes, even Trump appearing as the beloved hero he appears to be from Saturday, just will not stop the power of the ones and the zeroes and the mindset of the real person behind the curtain.

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« Reply #420 on: July 18, 2024, 06:37:38 am »
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So, what’s my larger point?  Our alphabet agencies had better be scrubbing his experience at the shooting range(s).  Who were his companions?  Was anyone in an apparent mentoring role? How much time did he spend there and did he shoot at different distances?  What kinds of questions did he ask of other shooters.  All those things.


Pal, we are the same age, yet you still believe in fairy tales.  You actually think they are going to conduct an investigation.  Almost had me ROFLMAO.

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« Reply #421 on: July 18, 2024, 07:03:32 am »
Secret Service says it's appalled by DEI rhetoric against female agents after Trump rally shooting

The Secret Service, in a statement to NBC News, said that the criticism from pundits and influencers was baseless. The agency also stood by its commitment to diversity in recruiting as helping, not hurting, the effectiveness of its protective teams.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/secret-service-condemns-backlash-against-women-agents-rcna161928

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« Reply #422 on: July 18, 2024, 07:14:32 am »
Trump Assassination Attempt: Line of Sight Questions Go Beyond a Sloped Roof

Legal Insurrection by Mary Chastain Wednesday, July 17, 2024

https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/07/trump-assassination-attempt-line-of-sight-questions-go-beyond-a-sloped-roof/

“Agents would have conducted a site ‘sweep’ that included assessing where a sniper might position themselves.”

Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle claimed no one placed security on the roof where Thomas Crooks positioned himself to shoot former President Donald Trump because of a sloped roof.

But the questions regarding the line of sight expand further than the lack of security on the roof.

Olivier Knox at U.S. News & World Report has covered numerous presidential rallies and campaigns.

Knox’s latest article, with Aneeta Mathur-Ashton, detailed the steps the Secret Service would take to secure the former president, especially from potential sniper positions.

Eliminating sniper positions became a priority after JFK’s assassination in 1963:

    The Secret Service has well-practiced protocols for securing a rally by a president or major presidential candidate, involving counterassault commandos and sniper teams in addition to the protective detail like the one that swarmed Trump at the podium and covered him with their bodies until word came that the shooter was dead.

    Agents would have conducted a site “sweep” that included assessing where a sniper might position themselves. It’s been one of the most well-known threats to presidential security since President John F. Kennedy’s 1963 assassination in Dallas.

These steps include (emphasis mine):

•   Posting a Secret Service agent or local law enforcement officer on a rooftop.

•   Assigning a counter-sniper team to monitor a rooftop.

•   Putting up something to make it impossible to see the stage from a rooftop (a screen, tents – in the past, some campaign rallies even used stacked shipping containers). The armored presidential limousine, nicknamed “The Beast,” regularly pulls into a tent outside events.

•   Frequent patrols.

Look at the photos that combat veteran Sean Parnell dropped, which expose the lack of objects guarding Trump’s stage.

Ignore the community note on the second tweet. Sean pointed out that security did not place anything to block that line of sight.


https://twitter.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1813632833547845873


https://twitter.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1813240829919539633

One red truck. Nothing else.

Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) insisted every political event for presidents or Congressional candidates required “ALL windows, balconies, parking garages, and roofs with line of sight to the stage are covered and cleared.”

The Secret Service did not sweep the shed.

We also learned that Crooks visited the rally site days before Trump’s rally.



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« Reply #423 on: July 18, 2024, 07:29:41 am »
Secret Service says it's appalled by DEI rhetoric against female agents after Trump rally shooting

The Secret Service, in a statement to NBC News, said that the criticism from pundits and influencers was baseless. The agency also stood by its commitment to diversity in recruiting as helping, not hurting, the effectiveness of its protective teams.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/secret-service-condemns-backlash-against-women-agents-rcna161928

Diversity in and of itself, doesn't hurt effectiveness. It's when you choose diversity over merit, that is where my problem begins.

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« Reply #424 on: July 18, 2024, 07:35:50 am »
Pure nonsense!!!!!!!

This DEI crap must end immediately.  Anyone dumb enough to assign what looks like a 5'4" woman to defend Trump(6'3" or 6'4") should be terminated.  TOTAL INCOMPETENCE.

Liberalism is an absolute form of insanity.  This assassination attempt is a screaming glaring example to prove what I am saying.

EVERYONE, from the director of the SS to every person from the SS in that Butler, PA crime scene, including the advance team needs to be terminated with extreme prejudice.  Someone within those ranks is guilty of attempted murder, or perhaps more than one someone.  We the people will never know the truth.

But the good news is that the Department of Homeland Security DHS intends to launch its own investigation.  I feel so much more comfortable that we have one more agency conducting an investigation.  Don't you?

A sh*t ton of foxes investigating who raided the hen house, and the US media is holding its breath to unvail the compelling true stories all this fine investigating will produce.  We can all rest now.  DHS, FBI, ATF, SS, and probably half a dozen other agencies with multiple letters are conducting their own investigation.

If Trump does get elected, he needs to eliminate the FBI, DHS, SS, and CIA.  And there are 15 other agencies connected to intelligence.  It all needs to be scaled back.  I say get rid of everyone above first line supervision.  EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.  Restructure the organizations, where they must answer to someone, and are not left to roam as they presently do answering to no one.