LIVE THREAD....Day 21: Closing Arguments And Verdict

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3 minutes ago
Trump was concerned with election, not family with Stormy Daniels payoff: prosecutors

Manhattan prosector Joshua Steinglass said that Trump's "primary concern" was the election and not his family when he decided the payoff Stormy Daniels 10 years after their alleged sexual encounter.

He said it was "no surprise" that the payoff happened in late October 2016 because "the defendant’s primary concern was not his family, but the election."

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Andrew H. Giuliani
@AndrewHGiuliani
ADA Steinglass tells Merchan that now is a good time to break.

Merchan thanks the jury for making childcare arrangements to stay with us late.

Jury leaves, Merchan says: I was watching the jurors, they look pretty alert to me. So I think I’m going to try to finish this out tonight.

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Well look at the bright side...

How are politicians, much less Democrats going to manage staying out of prison under this standard of "election interference"...

Yeah, you're right... That standard will never be applied to Democrats...

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Andrew H. Giuliani
@AndrewHGiuliani
ADA Steinglass tells Merchan that now is a good time to break.

Merchan thanks the jury for making childcare arrangements to stay with us late.

Jury leaves, Merchan says: I was watching the jurors, they look pretty alert to me. So I think I’m going to try to finish this out tonight.

IOW he's reading the jury and pretty certain he's going to get a conviction.

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1 min(s) ago
Andy McCarthy inside court: Prosecution 'retracing the same ground' in closing arguments

We’re retracing the same ground, but Steinglass gets animated saying David Pecker’s testimony proves beyond any doubt that Trump was in on the Karen McDougal NDA deal. Yes — that would be a big deal if the NDA were a crime.

It is, however, only a crime in this courtroom, where an NDA = a FECA crime. And note, there is no evidence in the record that, if the NDAs were campaign expenditures, there would have been any obligation to report them publicly prior to the election. There is no doubt that the Stormy NDA, which was very late before Election Day, would not have had to be reported prior to the election.

-- Andy McCarthy, former assistant U.S. attorney and FNC contributor
Posted by Brianna Herlihy

10 min(s) ago
Andy McCarthy inside court: Doesn't WSJ report blow up prosecution team's theory of the case?

We’re up to 4 days before the election, when WSJ reported on the McDougal payment.

My question (and I’d be asking it if I got to address the jury last): Doesn’t the WSJ reporting blow up the prosecution’s theory of the case. Steinglass is arguing that Trump was desperate to suppress the Stormy story because, if it had come out, Hillary would have been elected. But in reality, the McDougal story did come out, only days after the Stormy NDA, right on the eve of the election, and it did not affect the election result in the slightest.

-- Andrew McCarthy, former assistant U.S. attorney and FNC contributor
Posted by Emma Colton

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This entire circus is not now and never has been about 'justice'. And the whole thing is only tangentially related to getting a guilty verdict. The primary mission of the Democrat persecution is to bring up ten year old salacious stories and to keep Trump from campaigning.

If they get a verdict of guilty, that would be a bonus for them. But the primary goal to interfere with Trump's election schedule and to sully Trump with rumors and innuendo from a decade ago has already been achieved.

No matter what happens, the Democrats consider it a win already.

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Oh jeeeez I'm cross-eyed now

18 minutes ago
Jurors willing to stay as late as 8 p.m. to finish closing arguments
By Kyle Schnitzer

We may be here for a while as jurors are willing to stay as late as 8 p.m., the judge says.

We'll be back in a few minutes.

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Andrew H. Giuliani
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Donald J. Trump, the 45th POTUS and the leading candidate to become the 47th POTUS has reentered the courtroom.

The Soros funded DA’s office including Alvin Bragg, Matt Colangelo, and Steinglass are present.

Waiting on the “Honorable” “Judge” Merchan, and the jury.

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No matter what happens, the Democrats consider it a win already.

I think they must be questioning the strategy at this point, given how it has made them look like  Fascists.

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I think they must be questioning the strategy at this point, given how it has made them look like  Fascists.

I doubt that they really care or even consider that it has made them look like Fascists; they'd probably consider it a badge of honor.

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13 min(s) ago
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Prosecutors throwing ‘nonsense after nonsense’ at jury amid lengthy closing arguments: Expert

Prosecutors in the NY v. Trump trial are taking the strategy of throwing "nonsense after nonsense" at the jury amid closing arguments in an effort to make it appear they "proved their case," New York litigator Rebecca Rose Woodland said.

"I think their strategy is: throw a lot at the jury, make the closing seem so long, that the jury will start to say, 'well, that closing was so long, they must have had a lot to say they must have proved their case,'" Woodland said on Fox News.

The prosecution team's closing arguments have continued since 2 p.m. Tuesday. The prosecution team said they were about a third of the way through their argument at about 4 p.m.

"They seem to be just coming up with nonsense after nonsense and trying to justify some of this extraneous information as evidence in an election interference case. It is not. So I think that you've had a great point, it's just the prosecution really grasping at straws. Again, trying to either confuse the jury or make it appear as if they're very important because they're going on for such a long time. They have so much to say. But what they're saying doesn't have merit," she continued.
Posted by Emma Colton

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I doubt that they really care or even consider that it has made them look like Fascists; they'd probably consider it a badge of honor.

Antifa stormtrooper boots. Democrats are proud fascists. If Democrats were worried about being perceived as fascists, they would have changed direction years ago. Democrats are creating a Fourth Reich in every single detail (even if they are too stupid to know it).

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Andrew H. Giuliani
@AndrewHGiuliani
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The jury is seated and Soros funded DA’s office represented by ADA Steinglass will continue their Closing Arguments.

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Andrew H. Giuliani
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ADA Steinglass continues about the January 16, 2017 meeting that GLOAT Cohen claims happened with President-Elect Trump and Allan Weiselberg, the “gross-it-up” meeting.

Remember, this is where President-Elect Trump supposedly agreed to the plan that he would pay out an additional $210-$290K that he had no obligation to pay out.

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Andrew H. Giuliani
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ADA Steinglass says that the handwritten notes allegedly by Weiselberg, per GLOAT Michael Cohen, are the smoking gun!

Remember, Weiselberg was never called by the Soros funded prosecution to testify, so we again are taking the word of serial liar, Michael Cohen.

Andrew H. Giuliani
@AndrewHGiuliani
Steinglass said that we don’t have to prove that the defendant made the entry himself but approving the reimbursement scheme is proof of the fraud.

AGAIN, this is believing GLOAT Michael Cohen, that Trump actually agreed to something that would have cost him at least an additional $210,000!

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Andrew H. Giuliani
@AndrewHGiuliani
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My note: I have been around President Trump for 25 years, there is NO WAY IN H-E-Double Hockey Sticks that he would approve of a plan that would have cost him an additional $210,000!

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Oh jeeeez I'm cross-eyed now

18 minutes ago
Jurors willing to stay as late as 8 p.m. to finish closing arguments
By Kyle Schnitzer

We may be here for a while as jurors are willing to stay as late as 8 p.m., the judge says.

This indicates the jury has had enough. LET'S GET THIS CHARADE OVER WITH! NOW! The jury is already done with the prosecutions dog-and-pony show.

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2 minutes ago
Trump rages on Truth Social as closing arguments continue in 'hush money' trial: 'BORING!'

As closing arguments resumed in his "hush money" case on Tuesday, Trump remained active on social media.

In a pair of all-caps, single-word posts, the former president took to Truth Social just after jurors took a short break at 5 pm.

"BORING!" Trump wrote in one of the posts.

"FILIBUSTER!" he wrote in a second Truth.

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Former President Donald Trump summed up the prosecution team's lengthy closing arguments in one word.

"BORING!" Trump posted on Truth Social Tuesday.

The prosecution team began its closing arguments around 2 p.m., and said ahead of 4 p.m. they were only about one-third of the way through the remarks.

Experts weighed in that prosecutors are dragging out the arguments in a bid to make it appear they "proved their case."

"I think their strategy is: throw a lot at the jury, make the closing seem so long, that the jury will start to say, 'well, that closing was so long, they must have had a lot to say they must have proved their case,'" New York lawyer Rebecca Rose Woodland said on Fox News Tuesday.

Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff and Fox News Contributor Karl Rove added that the prosecutors' case "looks like a stretch" while Americans have rallied around Trump.

"This is supposedly a federal election law violation, the Federal Election Commission looked at it and passed, the Department of Justice took a pass on it," he said. "This is supposedly the federal election law is being violated in a way that somehow ties it into a New York law regarding business records. It looks like a stretch."

"It's been put into effect by a highly partisan DA and it's frankly caused people to rally to the former president's defense," Rove added. "He's raised a lot of money for his campaign off it to pay his legal bills and he's gone up in the polls since last August when all these indictments came down. Now some of them are more serious, the classified documents case, I think, is a serious issue. But none of those other issues are likely to be heard now until the end of the election."
Posted by Emma Colton

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46 seconds ago
Trey Gowdy: Prosecution continues 'laborious' closing argument

Laborious chronology continues with Allen Weisselberg as a central figure but just not a witness in the actual trial.Ordinarily the decision not to call a witness can lead to inferences being drawn against the prosecution but when a defense does put up a case - as it did here - is that presumption voided or is it burden shifting to ask why the defense didn't call him themselves?

-- Trey Gowdy, “Sunday Night in America” host and former federal prosecutor
Posted by Brianna Herlihy

1 min(s) ago
Stormy Daniels lied for a long time after getting money from Cohen: Howard Kurtz

Fox News host Howard Kurtz took aim at the "selective" measures the prosecution took as it sought to convince the jury of its case against former President Donald Trump on Tuesday, insisting that former porn actress Stormy Daniels "lied for a long time" as it relates to her alleged encounter with Trump.

"When it comes to the prosecution, also highly selective," said Kurtz, who hosts Fox News Channel's "MediaBuzz" on Sundays. "Josh Steinglass, the prosecutor [said] they tried to shame Stormy ... he said she never changed her story. That's preposterous. She lied for a long time after getting the $130,000 from Michael Cohen."

Describing the case against Trump as "very thin," Kurtz also took aim at the defense's "selective" measures in trying to make their case to jurors.

"I think the defense absolutely scored some points, but ... Todd Blanche started out by saying Trump and Stormy have repeatedly denied that this took place. That was to please the client, I believe, but obviously Stormy now testifies that the alleged encounter in 2006 very much did happen," Kurtz said.

Kurtz's comments come as the prosecution team continues its closing arguments, which they said could last hours longer.
Posted by Kyle Morris

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2 minutes ago
Trump rages on Truth Social as closing arguments continue in 'hush money' trial: 'BORING!'

As closing arguments resumed in his "hush money" case on Tuesday, Trump remained active on social media.

In a pair of all-caps, single-word posts, the former president took to Truth Social just after jurors took a short break at 5 pm.

"BORING!" Trump wrote in one of the posts.

"FILIBUSTER!" he wrote in a second Truth.

It is beyond me why Trump does things like that. It just adds more stench across the board.

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1 min(s) ago
Turley and Gowdy inside court: Defense denied chance to respond to 'sweeping claims' due to NY law

The problem is that, under New York law, the defense was forced to go first unlike most jurisdictions. That denied the defense the chance to respond to such sweeping claims. It is huge advantage to the prosecution.

-- Jonathan Turley, constitutional law attorney and FNC contributor

Most lawyers would trade children for last argument!

-- Trey Gowdy, “Sunday Night in America” host and former federal prosecutor
Posted by Brianna Herlihy

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Lara Logan
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Once again this smacks of provocation…does not mean they won’t do it, but it was leaked on purpose.

From Colin Rugg this a.m. posted on X:
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JUST IN: Secret Service has reportedly met with local jail officials in New York to make possible preparations for Donald Trump behind bars. 
 
Insane. 
 
According to CBS News, a New York corrections source made the revelation. 
 
As a former president, Donald Trump is entitled to Secret Service protection for his entire life even if he is sentenced to jail.

"Behind bars, corrections officers would in turn be responsible for protecting those agents assigned to Trump," CBS reported.

CBS predicts that Trump could serve time at Rikers Island Jail Complex.

https://x.com/collinrugg/status/1795499217101951456?s=46&t=Q9MmQCU2nhHI5rvwhnXQEg
4:49 PM · May 28, 2024

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Obviously Biden and the Democrats want the trial to last as long as possible.
But nobody wants the trial to continue for another week or weeks, more than Merchan.
Mechan knows that the second this trial ends, his 15 minutes and his career ends with it.
Reminds me of Fauci.

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4 min(s) ago
McCarthy and Gowdy inside court: Prosecution describing 'additional crime' without evidence

Steinglass is now proving another potential “other crime” — tax fraud. He points out that even though the structuring of Cohen’s compensation meant more taxes than necessary would be paid, the judge will instruct you (the jury) that the preparation of false tax docs is a crime even if the state is not shorted out of any money. Theory is that by describing a reimbursement (a nontaxable event) as taxable income in a Form 1099, Trump caused the preparation of false tax documents. That is, alternative theory of “other crime” is that Trump falsified business records to conceal his commission of a tax fraud crime.

-- Andy McCarthy, former assistant U.S. attorney and FNC contributor

Prosecutor describes yet another "additional crime" without the elements, the code section, the witnesses etc.  It's just a potpourri of other crimes. A buffet of sorts where the jury can choose without even hearing what the elements of those crimes are.

-- Trey Gowdy, “Sunday Night in America” host and former federal prosecutor
Posted by Brianna Herlihy