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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1651 on: June 15, 2025, 07:26:23 am »
The mastermind of October 7, 2023, was a Palestinian prisoner released by Israel years before.

I hoped they implanted Geo-Tags or replaced one testicle with a remote controlled bomb.

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« Reply #1652 on: June 15, 2025, 08:07:22 am »
Those Egyptian policemen look totally unimpressed.
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« Reply #1653 on: June 22, 2025, 10:58:21 am »
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Last night, the bodies of the deceased hostages

Ofra Kedar, Yonatan Samarno and Shai Levinson were recovered from Gaza.


4:42 AM · Jun 22, 2025  ·  126.4K Views

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« Reply #1654 on: June 22, 2025, 11:12:39 am »
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Last night, the bodies of the deceased hostages

Ofra Kedar, Yonatan Samarno and Shai Levinson were recovered from Gaza.


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« Reply #1661 on: July 08, 2025, 12:59:28 pm »

https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/1942234217074639209

Bad news as 47's naivety spreads to terrorist groups so he can 'negotiate' with them. Fool.
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« Reply #1662 on: July 08, 2025, 02:26:41 pm »
Bad news as 47's naivety spreads to terrorist groups so he can 'negotiate' with them. Fool.
 
Maybe but it might be "payment" for good intelligence provided against the Iranians.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1664 on: July 09, 2025, 10:22:18 am »
Israel's quest for justice exposes Hamas' systematic sexual violence campaign during October 7 massacre
Dinah Project hopes report will become a ‘legal blueprint’ to prosecute Hamas; calls on UN to blacklist terror group
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Published July 9, 2025 6:46am EDT

WARNING: This article includes graphic and disturbing accounts from the October 7 massacre in Israel.

Rape, gang-rape and acts of extreme sexual violence carried out by Hamas terrorists during their brutal Oct. 7, 2023 attack on southern Israel were part of a well-planned systematic weapon of war, a report, based on collated, open-source evidence and new testimonies, has found.

Authored by The Dinah Project, a global initiative advancing justice for victims of conflict-related sexual violence, the 80-page report titled "A Quest for Justice: October 7 and Beyond" calls on international human rights groups to recognize that Hamas weaponized sexual violence as part of its atrocities and demands that the U.N. secretary general blacklist the Palestinian terror group.

"The main goal is to provide, for the first time, a comprehensive framework, based on all the available information, that has been analyzed and cross-checked from a legal perspective to prove that sexual violence was indeed used as a weapon of war by Hamas on October 7," Professor Ruth Halperin-Kaddari, director of the Rackman Center for the Advancement of the Status of Women at Bar-Ilan University, which oversees the Dinah Project, told Fox News Digital.

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« Reply #1665 on: September 16, 2025, 09:04:44 pm »
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« Reply #1666 on: September 16, 2025, 09:11:42 pm »
IDF Spokesman: Hamas Weaponized Gaza City into ‘Largest Human Shield in History’ as Final Offensive Begins
Joshua Klein 16 Sep 2025

IDF Spokesperson Brigadier General Effie Defrin declared Tuesday evening that “Hamas has turned Gaza City into the largest human shield in history” as Israeli forces expanded ground operations in the terror group’s central stronghold.

Speaking from the Gaza border as the Israel Defense Forces launched the new phase of Operation Gideon’s Chariots II, Defrin outlined the strategic challenge facing Israeli forces in the densely populated urban battleground that serves as Hamas’s primary military and governing hub.

“Last night, the IDF expanded ground activity in Gaza City, marking the start of the new phase of the operation,” Defrin announced in his evening briefing. “Working together in coordinated and precise strikes, air, ground, and intelligence forces are targeting Hamas military targets that threaten Israel’s security.”

The brigadier general emphasized the unprecedented nature of Hamas’s defensive strategy, which has weaponized civilian infrastructure on a massive scale. “Gaza City is the central hub of Hamas’ military and governing power – their main stronghold,” he explained. “Hamas has turned Gaza City into the largest human shield in history.”

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1668 on: October 13, 2025, 02:09:46 am »
Infamous Hamas Propagandist Who Has 'Died' a Dozen Times Reportedly Dies for Real This Time

....As the IDF withdraws to predetermined lines, rival Palestinian gangs are coming out of hiding and sparking a civil war. Numerous clashes have been reported between Hamas and Da'mash, and one of the casualties is reportedly Saleh al-Jaafari. You probably won't recognize that name, but you might recognize his nickname: Mr. FAFO.

The Hamas propagandist has spent the last two years changing "jobs" on a near-daily basis and "dying" somewhere around a dozen times. As Pallywood actors go, he's on the A-list.

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« Reply #1669 on: October 15, 2025, 04:52:16 pm »
CENTCOM Enters The Chat With Warning to Hamas; Trump Escalates

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2025/10/15/centcom-enters-the-chat-with-warning-to-hamas-n3807865

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Hmmm. Maybe Donald Trump meant "we" more literally than I first thought.

As noted earlier, Hamas has decided to finish its war with Israel by shifting their attacks to the Gazans. After the IDF pulled back in the first phase of Trump's 20-point ceasefire plan, Hamas rushed out of its bunkers to assert its power over the territory. The clans have responded with armed clashes, but it has not slowed down the executions Hamas is conducting against its enemies.

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« Reply #1670 on: October 19, 2025, 09:13:48 am »
Hamas Breaks Ceasefire — Israel Retaliates

Belinda Johnson  |  October 19, 2025


Just days into a fragile truce meant to end two years of brutal conflict in Gaza, Hamas has shattered the agreement with direct attacks on Israeli forces. The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) reported that Hamas militants fired an RPG at one military unit and unleashed sniper fire on another, both incidents taking place in Israeli-controlled territory east of the designated “yellow line.” These brazen moves came after the ceasefire took effect on October 11, following a U.S.-brokered deal that saw Israel pull back troops and Hamas release living hostages.

In response, Israel wasted no time striking back, targeting Hamas positions in northern and southern Gaza, including airstrikes in Rafah where militants had fired on IDF troops. The IDF confirmed the operations, stating that such violations demanded a firm reply to protect their soldiers and enforce the terms of the deal. No injuries were reported among Israeli forces from the initial attacks.  .  .

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1673 on: October 19, 2025, 11:23:26 am »
Color me shocked!

Yep, these rag headed goat f''res couldn't even make a week. 

@DCPatriot had a good idea yesterday.   IDF should easily be able to engineer a channel a flood the Gaza tunnels, much like my wife uses her garden hoses to flush moles out her garden.
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« Reply #1674 on: October 19, 2025, 11:39:43 am »
Hamas doing what Hamas does.  Anyone surprised?  Now we need to see what Trumps contingency plan was for this event.  Trump and Bebe must have known this was a possibility.
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« Reply #1675 on: October 19, 2025, 11:40:52 am »
We all saw this coming.  Time for Israel and Trump to make good on their promise that they would kill Hamas if they broke their ceasefire.

Time to stop playing this song and dance and eradicate the problem.

It has also been reported that Hamas is planning attacks on Palestinian civilians within Gaza.

Again, time to eradicate the problem...peace through strength...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/u-s-warns-of-credible-reports-hamas-is-planning-attack-on-palestinian-civilians-in-gaza

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« Reply #1676 on: October 19, 2025, 11:42:16 am »
Hamas doing what Hamas does.  Anyone surprised?  Now we need to see what Trumps contingency plan was for this event.  Trump and Bebe must have known this was a possibility.

Possibility?  I think Trump and Bibi knew this was  going to  happen and should quickly put their plans in motion.

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« Reply #1677 on: October 19, 2025, 11:46:05 am »
Hamas doing what Hamas does.  Anyone surprised?  Now we need to see what Trumps contingency plan was for this event.  Trump and Bebe must have known this was a possibility.

They had to know it was a sure thing.  Notice no Israelis were harmed in the attack.  It's FO time....
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« Reply #1678 on: October 19, 2025, 11:58:19 am »
Israel strikes back after Hamas terrorists fire on IDF in 'blatant violation of the ceasefire agreement'

Defence minister says Jerusalem remains committed to returning all hostages, disarming Hamas and preventing Gaza from posing a threat


Hamas terrorists attacked Israel Defence Forces in southern Gaza on Sunday, triggering retaliatory airstrikes and high-level political deliberations in Jerusalem as the U.S.–brokered ceasefire deteriorated.
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“Earlier today, terrorists fired an anti-tank missile and gunfire toward IDF troops operating to dismantle terrorist infrastructure in the Rafah area, in southern Gaza, in accordance with the ceasefire agreement,” the IDF said.

“In response, the IDF has begun striking in the area to eliminate the threat and dismantle tunnel shafts and military structures used for terrorist activity,” the statement continued.

“These terrorist actions constitute a blatant violation of the ceasefire agreement, and the IDF will respond firmly,” the military added.

An IDF source earlier told Reuters that Hamas carried out several attacks on IDF soldiers beyond the Yellow Line — the boundary to which the military withdrew under the Trump administration’s peace plan.

According to the Channel 12 News broadcaster, the attacks included anti-tank fire toward an IDF engineering vehicle in the Rafah area. In response, the Israeli Air Force reportedly carried out three airstrikes.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defence Minister Israel Katz were updated on the developments during the weekly Cabinet meeting. The premier subsequently convened a situational assessment with Katz and senior IDF officials regarding the nature of the response.

Netanyahu “directed them to act forcefully against terrorist targets in the Gaza Strip,” according to a statement from the Prime Minister’s Office following the meeting...................

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« Reply #1679 on: October 19, 2025, 12:00:19 pm »
Both sides are blaming  each  other ..... hmmmm  whom to  believe? 

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2kpx7yyq9pt

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« Reply #1680 on: October 19, 2025, 12:04:55 pm »
Both sides are blaming  each  other ..... hmmmm  whom to  believe? 

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2kpx7yyq9pt

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« Reply #1681 on: October 19, 2025, 12:06:23 pm »
I'm waiting for the inevitable link to a story blaming the evil Netanyahu for the attacks on the IDF.

Well, that wouldn't surprise me.

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« Reply #1682 on: October 19, 2025, 01:24:45 pm »
I'm waiting for the inevitable link to a story blaming the evil Netanyahu for the attacks on the IDF.

And for our resident Jew hater and Hamas supporter RiV to do the same.
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« Reply #1683 on: October 19, 2025, 01:59:42 pm »
And for our resident Jew hater and Hamas supporter RiV to do the same.

Though I wouldn't go as far as to  use the label Jew hater, since Hamas broke the peace agreement ... silence.

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« Reply #1684 on: October 19, 2025, 03:20:13 pm »
I'm waiting for the inevitable link to a story blaming the evil Netanyahu for the attacks on the IDF.

Ever wonder why Netanyahu couldn't win a war against goat herders in two years, or why the IDF could give the coordinates for dead hostages to US intermediaries but chose to let them rot in Gaza for years?  Ever wonder why when Trump talks about peace, he often asks Israel to pardon Netanyahu --- the last time in person, to the whole Knesset?

Ever wonder why Netanyahu needs his killing fields?

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Earlier today, the Jerusalem District Court canceled hearings for Netanyahu’s testimony in his criminal trial that had been scheduled for Monday and Tuesday, citing “urgent diplomatic meetings” the premier said he needed to attend. Netanyahu’s lawyers added that he would not be able to testify on Wednesday or Thursday either, because of Vance’s upcoming visit and a swearing-in ceremony for new Shin Bet chief David Zini.


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« Reply #1685 on: October 19, 2025, 03:29:28 pm »
Though I wouldn't go as far as to  use the label Jew hater, since Hamas broke the peace agreement ... silence.

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« Reply #1686 on: October 19, 2025, 03:29:52 pm »
Ever wonder why Netanyahu couldn't win a war against goat herders in two years, or why the IDF could give the coordinates for dead hostages to US intermediaries but chose to let them rot in Gaza for years?  Ever wonder why when Trump talks about peace, he often asks Israel to pardon Netanyahu --- the last time in person, to the whole Knesset?

Ever wonder why Netanyahu needs his killing fields?

No.  The only thing I'm wondering  is why Israel and U.S. haven't just gone in and carpet bombed the area.  Enough is enough.   Hamas broke the peace deal.  They should be given no leeway whatsoever.  Israel now has every reason to act and should have the backing of the U.S.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1687 on: October 19, 2025, 03:31:12 pm »
My apologies @libertybele  .... We were attending to life --- an engagement party for the son of one of our dear friends ( I think he's too young, but that's another story).   We'll be boarding a plane for home soon, so you might want to brace yourself for more silence.  Hope you'll be okay.

 :rolling:  Gee, thanks for the heads-up @RIV    :facepalm2:

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1688 on: October 19, 2025, 03:33:59 pm »
:rolling:  Gee, thanks for the heads-up @RIV    :facepalm2:

Appreciate the sarcasm @libertybele   But, how about you just stop talking about other briefers and stick to topics?

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1689 on: October 19, 2025, 03:35:09 pm »
Appreciate the sarcasm @libertybele   But, how about you just stop talking about other briefers and stick to topics?

You know better   -- I  don't talk about Briefers ... just  commenting on @Wingnut dig at you.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1690 on: October 19, 2025, 03:49:19 pm »
Appreciate the sarcasm @libertybele   But, how about you just stop talking about other briefers and stick to topics?

It's not just my dear friend @libertybele, many of us were wondering when you would dig up an article blaming the evil Netanyahu for Hamas breaking the ceasefire in spectacular fashion.  We'll see you later when you have had the opportunity to dig deeper than TOI....
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1691 on: October 19, 2025, 03:53:16 pm »
Both sides are blaming  each  other ..... hmmmm  whom to  believe? 

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c2kpx7yyq9pt

I really hate the BBC constantly carrying water for terrorists. What a joke they have been their entire lifespan. What is up with government funded news/tv always being leftist commies. PBS radio/tv stations just need to be torn down and left to rot. Journalism degrees are just left-wing indoctrination degrees pumping out Tokyo Rose personalities..
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« Reply #1692 on: October 19, 2025, 04:02:45 pm »
I really hate the BBC constantly carrying water for terrorists. What a joke they have been their entire lifespan. What is up with government funded news/tv always being leftist commies. PBS radio/tv stations just need to be torn down and left to rot. Journalism degrees are just left-wing indoctrination degrees pumping out Tokyo Rose personalities..

Well, I cite BBC because they are normally first out with the news ....  perhaps I should stick to The Jerusalem Post - Israel News?

https://www.jpost.com/
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1693 on: October 19, 2025, 04:09:57 pm »
@DCPatriot had a good idea yesterday.   IDF should easily be able to engineer a channel a flood the Gaza tunnels, much like my wife uses her garden hoses to flush moles out her garden.

Phosgene works better.
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« Reply #1694 on: October 19, 2025, 06:46:09 pm »
Phosgene works better.
CO2...Heavier than air.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #1695 on: October 19, 2025, 11:39:11 pm »
CO2...Heavier than air.

Phosgene - Three times heavier than air.  Over two times heavier than CO2.   It will get the job done.
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« Reply #1696 on: Today at 01:58:26 am »
Well, I cite BBC because they are normally first out with the news ....  perhaps I should stick to The Jerusalem Post - Israel News?

Not dumping on ya little lady, just saying I didn't like the way they report stuff with a twist. I understand first to publish, unfortunately they are first to spin a story too. Use whatever, I can read between the lines when needed. We all good.
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Phosgene - Three times heavier than air.  Over two times heavier than CO2.   It will get the job done.
It will, but digging out any evidence becomes more complicated
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