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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #700 on: March 02, 2024, 06:39:13 pm »
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #701 on: March 02, 2024, 06:52:37 pm »
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Senior U.S. Official are reporting that Israel has Agreed to a 6-Week Ceasefire in the Gaza Strip which will include a Release of Israeli Hostages and Palestinian Prisoners, but that they are awaiting a Response to the Ceasefire from Hamas.

Seems Bibi caved.  This Hamas thing just got further perpetuated.  Lather, Rinse, Spin, repeat.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #702 on: March 02, 2024, 07:40:25 pm »
Seems Bibi caved.  This Hamas thing just got further perpetuated.  Rather, Rinse, Spin, repeat.
The global propaganda machine turned on him. When your last supposed ally starts dropping aid packages to your enemies, what can you do?

Let's see how many hostages come home.  Let them tell their tales, and then he can let loose the dogs of war. Again.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #703 on: March 02, 2024, 11:53:17 pm »
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I'd be surprised if any of the hostages are alive.  Bibi's playing the cards he has, I get it. I just pray that other Israelis don't pay the price. And I can't help but say FU to the US state dept @blinken and other simps., WH and all others who sympathize with the palis...EFF you!
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #704 on: March 03, 2024, 05:48:13 pm »
Hamas: No hostage deal without permanent ceasefire - report

March 03, 2024 at 11:19 AM

After receiving an unsatisfactory response from Hamas, Israel has refrained from sending a negotiating team to continue talks in Cairo


In a significant development amid ongoing negotiations, Hamas, the terrorist group governing the Gaza Strip, has said that it will not agree to the release of hostages without Israel committing to a permanent ceasefire in Gaza.

Citing a source within Hamas, CNN reported that the group is adamant about the cessation of hostilities as a prerequisite for any deal regarding the release of hostages.

According to the Hamas source, apart from the demand for a fixed truce, two other key points of contention preventing an agreement from being reached include the withdrawal of Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) troops from Gaza and the allowance for civilians to return to the northern Gaza Strip.

Additionally, Hamas has insisted on the provision of aid to both the southern and northern parts of the Gaza Strip before agreeing to any deal.  .  .  .

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/1709482749-hamas-no-hostage-deal-without-permanent-ceasefire-report



There was already a permanent cease fire agreement in place on Oct 7.  Any agreement is only as good as the parties agreeing to it.  So if Hamas is involved, any agreement is worthless.

Israel should do what Hamas does.  Make the agreement, get the hostages back (if any are still alive), and then start bombing again.  But the bottom line here is that even if Israel agreed to everything Hamas asks for, Hamas would sabotage it somehow.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #705 on: March 04, 2024, 12:27:48 pm »
But...but....but...Biden said there would be a cease fire come Monday.   *****rollingeyes*****

And Kammie commanded Israel to cease fire, https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2024/03/04/kamala-harris-calls-for-a-complete-ceasefire-immediately-n3784016 . :silly:
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #706 on: March 04, 2024, 01:41:10 pm »
And Kammie commanded Israel to cease fire
Hard to believe no one takes her seriously. I can't imagine why.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #707 on: March 05, 2024, 07:56:27 am »
Our tax dollars at work. Gazan man throws food in the garbage because it was parachuted into Gaza by the US Air Force.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #708 on: March 05, 2024, 12:49:45 pm »
Our tax dollars at work. Gazan man throws food in the garbage because it was parachuted into Gaza by the US Air Force.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1764805073031331896
And then after he made his propaganda video he took it right back out and gobbled it up.......he's an Arab, they and the truth are like ships that pass in the night, or a virgin camel at a Bedouin camp.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #709 on: March 05, 2024, 01:03:56 pm »
And then after he made his propaganda video he took it right back out and gobbled it up.......he's an Arab, they and the truth are like ships that pass in the night, or a virgin camel at a Bedouin camp.

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« Reply #710 on: March 05, 2024, 01:07:29 pm »
1.) As my drunken Irish grandfather would say, "If you don't like the MRE, go ahead, starve to death."
2.) There was a permanent cease fire on October 6th; Hamas broke it on October 7th.

Hamas messed with the Israeli bull, now they are getting the horns.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #711 on: March 05, 2024, 01:58:39 pm »
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It's perfectly OK for Muslims to lie to infidels when it suits their purpose. Says so right there in the Koran.

It's called "Taqiyya."

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« Reply #712 on: March 06, 2024, 08:32:52 am »

Spectacular moment Israel's Iron Dome defense system intercepts and blows a string of 30 rockets fired by Hezbollah

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By NATASHA ANDERSON  and STEPHEN M. LEPORE
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Spectacular video showed Israel's 'Iron Dome' at work on Tuesday night in the north of Israel, as the famous defense system blew up a string of 30 rockets fired by the terror group Hezbollah.

The system, invented by Dr. Danny Gold, is made up of a series of batteries that use radars to detect and intercept incoming short-range missiles.

'Israel’s missile defenses look like the Battle of Hogwarts,' wrote Israeli government spokesman Eylon Levy in reaction.

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« Reply #713 on: March 06, 2024, 03:17:29 pm »
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« Reply #715 on: March 10, 2024, 10:47:16 am »
3 Strategic Hamas Errors Leave Gaza Terror Base in Ruins

ISRAEL RADAR 3/10/2024

The October 7 assault on Israel is gradually unfolding as a series of strategic miscalculations by Hamas. As the IDF continues to dismantle the group’s terror machine, the war is increasingly shaping up as a disaster for both Hamas and Gaza.

The invasion from Gaza, driven by three key errors in judgment, aimed to inflict severe damage on Israel, trigger a regional war, and bolster the strategic position of Hamas and Iran. But as events unfold, it becomes evident that Hamas misjudged its own capabilities while misreading Israel’s and Iran’s response.

3 Hamas miscalculations


Error 1: The Hamas plan anticipated a prolonged incursion into Israeli territory by thousands of terrorists armed to the teeth and equipped with ample supplies. The intention was to seize control of multiple communities and military installations, engaging in sustained combat against the IDF for long weeks.

However, Hamas was quickly overwhelmed by the swift and decisive Israeli response. The IDF neutralized all terrorists and pockets of resistance inside Israel within days. This enabled Israel to shift focus to offensive operations within Gaza sooner than Hamas expected, escalating the conflict well beyond Hamas’ control.

Error 2: Hamas did not believe that the IDF would mount a large-scale invasion of Gaza, according to captured terrorists interrogated by Israel. This assumption, based on exaggerating the Israeli fear of casualties, led Hamas to concentrate its defenses primarily against aerial bombardment and build a vast network of tunnels, Ynet reported.

As it turned out, this defensive doctrine proved lacking against the IDF’s ground incursion, leaving Hamas exposed and vulnerable to Israel’s overwhelming military power. Moreover, tunnels were mostly built as shelters rather than sites of potential large-scale combat, enabling the IDF to advance underground with relative ease and destroy numerous strategic sites.

Error 3: Hamas pinned its hopes on full-scale support from the Iran axis, anticipating a regional conflict that never materialized. Secret documents recovered by the IDF in Gaza suggest that Tehran promised full backing, or at least that this was the Hamas perception.

More: https://israelradar.com/3-strategic-hamas-errors-leave-gaza-terror-base-in-ruins/

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« Reply #716 on: March 10, 2024, 11:08:13 am »
4. a. Hamas expected the US and the rest of the world to turn on Israel almost immediately and arm-twist Israel into stopping their attacks on Hamas. It's taken 4 months or so for that to start with LIEden.

4. b. Hamas expected Israel to knuckle under to international pressure, as has happened in times past. So far that has not happened.
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« Reply #717 on: March 10, 2024, 11:38:20 am »
They are lying to you. And Israel knows this.

They did not consult with Israel before enacting this plan to strengthen and supply Hamas during an active ongoing war. Biden just decided to do it, out of nowhere.

What if Israel decided to build a port in Florida only for illegal Cubans? With no discussion or consultation with anyone in Florida or in the United States.

First they said they were building a port. Then they said they are building a pier. First they said the American military will not be involved. Then they said the American military will be only indirectly involved in constructing the new terrorist port.

I do not understand the thinking. If someone started building a shed in my backyard, I may have a question or two about what is going on. And even if the shed gets built, the idea that I will just leave it there untouched and simply 'tolerate' it, is probably wishful thinking.

I believe the port/pier/base whatever it really is will never be completed.
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« Reply #718 on: March 10, 2024, 12:09:30 pm »
When finished Israel should bomb it.
It will never get that far. Whatever Biden is actually building in Gaza? It will never be completed. This would constitute an actual factual annexation of Israeli littoral territory by the American military.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #719 on: March 10, 2024, 12:48:59 pm »
It will never get that far. Whatever Biden is actually building in Gaza? It will never be completed. This would constitute an actual factual annexation of Israeli littoral territory by the American military.

Shortbus Joe is only trying to placate the anti-Jew base, which is rather robust as it turns out.  Nothing more, nothing less.

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Shortbus Joe is only trying to placate the anti-Jew base, which is rather robust as it turns out.  Nothing more, nothing less.

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Ok? That is fine with me. But let us stir up the scenario just a bit. What if Biden decided to build a new port on Turkey or Egypt or Lebanon? He says in his isolated idiotic stupor, "I'm going to build a new port in Turkey ... to aid the Kurds."

How does anyone think this is normal? or acceptable? 

The world does not work like that.

Biden seems to think, by word and by actions, that the stupid Jews in Israel are somehow his inferiors. He seems to think that Israel is some servant who must 'obey' him <- him as the superior Christian overlord.

He may be surprised to find out that Jews do as they please and think on their own. They do not need or want some uber-White uber-old KKK man from the 1940s to guide and direct them.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #721 on: March 10, 2024, 03:17:11 pm »
Biden draws ‘red line’ for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: No Israeli attack on Rafah

 By Ben Wolfgang - The Washington Times - Updated: 3:11 p.m. on Sunday, March 10, 2024

President Biden drew a “red line” for Israel over the weekend, warning against an attack on the Gaza Strip city of Rafah.

In a Saturday interview with MSNBC, the president offered his harshest criticism to date of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. He said the leadership’s conduct of the war against the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas is “hurting Israel more than helping Israel.” Mr. Biden said Israel must take greater care to protect civilians in Gaza.

He also made clear that an Israeli attack on Rafah would be unacceptable.

“It is a red line,” Mr. Biden said when asked about a potential Israeli military assault on the city. More than 1 million Palestinians have sought shelter in southern Gaza amid the Israel-Hamas war.

“But I’m never going to leave Israel,” the president quickly added. “The defense of Israel is still critical. There’s no red line [where] I’m going to cut off all weapons so they don’t have the Iron Dome to protect them.

“But there’s red lines that if he crosses them — you cannot have 30,000 more Palestinians dead as a consequence of going after” Hamas, Mr. Biden said. “There’s other ways to deal with, to get to, to deal with the trauma caused by Hamas.”

The comments will likely deepen the rift between the Biden administration and Mr. Netanyahu’s government.

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« Reply #722 on: March 10, 2024, 03:34:47 pm »
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Why? Can Clueless Joe offer an explanation?
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He also made clear that an Israeli attack on Rafah would be unacceptable.

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« Reply #724 on: March 10, 2024, 03:44:35 pm »
Sounds like a "come to Jesus" moment.
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« Reply #725 on: March 10, 2024, 03:53:57 pm »
In case you wondered how it was that ten zillion kajillion Palestinians had been killed by those turrible Joos, some statistical analysis:
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How the Gaza Ministry of Health Fakes Casualty Numbers
The evidence is in their own poorly fabricated figures
by Abraham Wyner
March 06, 2024

The number of civilian casualties in Gaza has been at the center of international attention since the start of the war. The main source for the data has been the Hamas-controlled Gaza Health Ministry, which now claims more than 30,000 dead, the majority of which it says are children and women. Recently, the Biden administration lent legitimacy to Hamas’ figure. When asked at a House Armed Services Committee hearing last week how many Palestinian women and children have been killed since Oct. 7, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said the number was “over 25,000.” The Pentagon quickly clarified that the secretary “was citing an estimate from the Hamas-controlled Health Ministry.” President Biden himself had earlier cited this figure, asserting that “too many, too many of the over 27,000 Palestinians killed in this conflict have been innocent civilians and children, including thousands of children.” The White House also explained that the president “was referring to publicly available data about the total number of casualties.”

Here’s the problem with this data: The numbers are not real. That much is obvious to anyone who understands how naturally occurring numbers work. The casualties are not overwhelmingly women and children, and the majority may be Hamas fighters.   ...

This lack of correlation is the second circumstantial piece of evidence suggesting the numbers are not real. But there is more. The daily number of women casualties should be highly correlated with the number of non-women and non-children (i.e., men) reported. Again, this is expected because of the nature of battle. The ebbs and flows of the bombings and attacks by Israel should cause the daily count to move together. But that is not what the data show. Not only is there not a positive correlation, there is a strong negative correlation, which makes no sense at all and establishes the third piece of evidence that the numbers are not real.

Consider some further anomalies in the data: First, the death count reported on Oct. 29 contradicts the numbers reported on the 28th, insofar as they imply that 26 men came back to life. This can happen because of misattribution or just reporting error.  ...
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« Reply #726 on: March 10, 2024, 04:44:20 pm »
Netanyahu:  "Hold my beer."

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« Reply #727 on: March 10, 2024, 04:46:32 pm »
Sounds like a "come to Jesus" moment.

That morphed into a FJB mment.   Go Bibi...  go.
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BREAKING: Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu has said that he will defy Joe Biden's "red line" and invade Rafah to prevent another attack like Oct 7, per Politco

Bibi:  "I wasn't thinking of invading Rafah.  But if HAMAS mouthpiece Joe Biden is ordering me not to do it, then I should strongly consider invading."


In short, the proper course of action is always to do the exact opposite of what Joe Biden says to do.  This simple axiom has been proved 100% accurate over the last half century.
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« Reply #729 on: March 10, 2024, 07:52:28 pm »
Netanyahu pledges to ignore Biden’s ‘red line’ and invade Rafah
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu brushed off President Joe Biden’s concerns and criticisms, vowing to move forward with Israel’s military occupation in Gaza.

Biden insisted on Saturday that the Israeli leader’s strategy for the country’s war against Hamas is “hurting Israel more than helping.” When asked about Rafah, he added, “It is a red line,” attempting to put pressure on Netanyahu to do more to protect Palestinians.

Netanyahu was asked the following day whether Israeli forces would push into Rafah, a city in the southern Gaza Strip and a refuge for millions of Palestinians. “We’ll go there. We’re not going to leave. You know, I have a red line. You know what the red line is, that October 7 doesn’t happen again,” he said, referring to Hamas’s brutal massacre that killed about 1,200 Israelis and triggered the current conflict. “Never happens again.”

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« Reply #730 on: March 11, 2024, 01:02:15 am »
Biden remains in Delaware, undergoing Adderall detox.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #731 on: March 11, 2024, 04:53:32 am »
Biden draws ‘red line’ for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu: No Israeli attack on Rafah

 By Ben Wolfgang - The Washington Times - Updated: 3:11 p.m. on Sunday, March 10, 2024

President Biden drew a “red line” for Israel over the weekend, warning against an attack on the Gaza Strip city of Rafah.

In a Saturday interview with MSNBC, the president offered his harshest criticism to date of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. He said the leadership’s conduct of the war against the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas is “hurting Israel more than helping Israel.” Mr. Biden said Israel must take greater care to protect civilians in Gaza.

He also made clear that an Israeli attack on Rafah would be unacceptable.

“It is a red line,” Mr. Biden said when asked about a potential Israeli military assault on the city. More than 1 million Palestinians have sought shelter in southern Gaza amid the Israel-Hamas war.

“But I’m never going to leave Israel,” the president quickly added. “The defense of Israel is still critical. There’s no red line [where] I’m going to cut off all weapons so they don’t have the Iron Dome to protect them.

“But there’s red lines that if he crosses them — you cannot have 30,000 more Palestinians dead as a consequence of going after” Hamas, Mr. Biden said. “There’s other ways to deal with, to get to, to deal with the trauma caused by Hamas.”

The comments will likely deepen the rift between the Biden administration and Mr. Netanyahu’s government.

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"...30,000 more Palestinians dead" Again, there's that number, made up out of whole cloth by the lying palis and most likely includes the thousands of terrorists whacked by Israel. I don't doubt there are collaterals, but after watching the post Oct 7th videos, I can't generate much, if any sympathy for what they're encountering. They messed with the bull and are whining about getting the horns.
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« Reply #732 on: March 11, 2024, 07:58:05 am »
Ok? That is fine with me. But let us stir up the scenario just a bit. What if Biden decided to build a new port on Turkey or Egypt or Lebanon? He says in his isolated idiotic stupor, "I'm going to build a new port in Turkey ... to aid the Kurds."

How does anyone think this is normal? or acceptable? 

The world does not work like that.

Biden seems to think, by word and by actions, that the stupid Jews in Israel are somehow his inferiors. He seems to think that Israel is some servant who must 'obey' him <- him as the superior Christian overlord.

He may be surprised to find out that Jews do as they please and think on their own. They do not need or want some uber-White uber-old KKK man from the 1940s to guide and direct them.
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« Reply #733 on: March 11, 2024, 08:23:08 am »
So, U.S. and U.N. declaring Rafah as safe zone for Hamas?

This could all be over if Hamas releases all hostages and surrenders.

This only came about because Hamas broke a ceasefire on October 7th.

It's not Israel's fault that the Gazans used all the U.N. aid to build tunnels and to buy rockets, but not to buy food and medicine.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #734 on: March 11, 2024, 09:38:12 am »
Biden breaks with Netanyahu but sticks with Israel
Barak Ravid

President Biden has begun a tricky maneuver: breaking with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his Gaza war strategy — while sticking with Israel and its fight against Hamas, which is still holding hostages.

Why it matters: No one incident led Biden to start changing his course with Netanyahu, whom he has known for 40 years. It's an accumulation of events and decisions by the prime minister over the last few weeks, U.S. officials tell Axios.

Between the lines: Biden hoped for weeks that he could use the war to push his Saudi mega-deal after the fighting. But in many ways, Biden sees Netanyahu as the one responsible for the deal slipping away.

Behind the scenes: The U.S. officials say Biden — and many other senior officials at the White House and the State Department — are extremely frustrated by what they see as ungratefulness by Netanyahu.

    Biden has given the Israeli government unprecedented support over the past five months, at the cost of strong pushback from the president's party during an election year.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #735 on: March 11, 2024, 10:06:23 am »
If Israel took "war advice" from America, they would fight in Gaza for 20 years, spend a trillion dollars and tens of thousands of dead soldiers, then in the end Israel would simply give up and surrender everything. This is the factual history of what America calls 'war'.

The very idea that Israel intends to actually 'win' the war is something unknown to American politicians and American Military. And so they are aghast with the thought of 'winning' a war. How dare you be so brutal? You are supposed to lose! That is the nature of things! That is how WE have always done it! You are never supposed to win! Winning requires that you commit. We prefer to be on the fence between good and evil.

America has their head so far up their DEI ass, they no longer understand simple reality. I am pretty sure China, Russia, and Iran, are all ready to educate the American shitheads as to what war really is.
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« Reply #736 on: March 11, 2024, 12:54:29 pm »
All comes down to catering to the Muslim vote.

...while trying to keep big-city Jews from bolting the party.  So Shortbus Joe has a problem, trying to sell himself to both sides in a Holy War.

So he's with Israel, but he's NOT with Netanyahu?  Funny, I feel the same way about Biteme.
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« Reply #737 on: March 11, 2024, 05:08:56 pm »
I gotz this feelin' that the IDF is gonna roll right over biden's "red line" the same way that the Israeli bulldozer rolled over Ms. Corrie...

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« Reply #738 on: March 11, 2024, 05:27:45 pm »
I gotz this feelin' that the IDF is gonna roll right over biden's "red line" the same way that the Israeli bulldozer rolled over Ms. Corrie...

That is likely.
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« Reply #739 on: March 12, 2024, 12:04:01 am »
I gotz this feelin' that the IDF is gonna roll right over biden's "red line" the same way that the Israeli bulldozer rolled over Ms. Corrie...

But that would mean his policy flatlined...
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« Reply #740 on: March 12, 2024, 06:49:06 am »
I gotz this feelin' that the IDF is gonna roll right over biden's "red line" the same way that the Israeli bulldozer rolled over Ms. Corrie...

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« Reply #741 on: March 12, 2024, 09:10:50 am »
Dem Rep. Moskowitz: Not Letting Israel Invade Rafah Gives Hamas ‘All the Leverage’ to Reject Ceasefires

On Monday’s broadcast of “CNN NewsNight,” Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL) stated that Israel has to be allowed to go forward with an invasion of Rafah if Hamas keeps rejecting ceasefires because “otherwise, you’re giving Hamas all the leverage.” And “What’s  not acceptable is to let Hamas continue to reject a ceasefire, but then say, Israel can’t do anything about that.”

Moskowitz said, “I’m concerned about Rafah. Obviously, Israel needs to do everything it can to make sure that civilians are protected. But we know at this juncture, the United States has proposed — along with other Arab neighbors — has proposed a temporary ceasefire. We know that Hamas continues to reject it. So, if Hamas continues to reject it, then Israel has the right to continue to prosecute the war against Hamas. So, Abby, what I would like to see happen –.”

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« Reply #742 on: March 12, 2024, 11:10:59 am »
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Joe Biden, AOC and the rest of the Hamas caucus should be forced to watch the video with their eyes taped open like Clockwork Orange.
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Joe Biden, AOC and the rest of the Hamas caucus should be forced to watch the video with their eyes taped open like Clockwork Orange.

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Hamas proposes cease-fire plan that includes 10-to-1 exchange of hostages, prisoners: report
Proposed Hamas plan reportedly includes exchanging Israeli women, children, elderly and sick hostages for the release of 700 to 1,000 Palestinian prisoners
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Published March 15, 2024 7:37am EDT

Hamas has issued a new cease-fire proposal amid its war with Israel that includes an exchange of hostages in Gaza for Palestinian prisoners, according to a report.

The terror group presented the Gaza cease-fire proposal to U.S., Qatar and Egypt mediators on Friday, Reuters reported. It includes the release of Israeli women, children, elderly and sick hostages in exchange for the release of 700 to 1,000 Palestinian prisoners.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office appeared to reject the Hamas proposal, saying it was based on "unrealistic demands," per the report.

The new proposal comes a week after negotiations to broker an agreement concluded without a breakthrough.

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Israel Rejects Hamas’s ‘Unrealistic’ Counteroffer on Hostages, but Talks Resume

Israel rejected a reported counteroffer by Hamas for a potential hostage deal on Thursday, but sent negotiators to Qatar to continue negotiations, as hope increased for an agreement that could lead to a temporary ceasefire in the near future.

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« Reply #748 on: March 15, 2024, 12:23:20 pm »
So, Israel announces it will invade Rafa, and Hamas offers cease fire and hostage release.  Coincidence?  Maybe, but, it's confirmation Israel is on the right track.

Agressors (Hamas) only sue for peace when they are losing.  They use the false promise of peace, cease fire, or armistice to buy time to recruit and re-arm.

Reduce Rafa to ash.

Unconditional surrender of Hamas is the only acceptable, long-term outcome.  Anything short of Hamas' unconditional surrender is a guarantee of another future war in Gaza.
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« Reply #749 on: March 15, 2024, 12:31:45 pm »
So, Israel announces it will invade Rafa, and Hamas offers cease fire and hostage release.  Coincidence?  Maybe, but, it's confirmation Israel is on the right track.

Agressors (Hamas) only sue for peace when they are losing. They use the false promise of peace, cease fire, or armistice to buy time to recruit and re-arm.

Reduce Rafa to ash.

Unconditional surrender of Hamas is the only acceptable, long-term outcome.  Anything short of Hamas' unconditional surrender is a guarantee of another future war in Gaza.
At the very least, they 'negotiate' to buy time to set up for the next offensive.

Other lengthy negotiation periods for ceasefires or armistices included the Korean War, and Vietnam. Both were to buy time...
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