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« Reply #650 on: February 19, 2024, 04:12:48 pm »
WATCH: Video Emerges of Bibas Family Abduction in Gaza; Netanyahu Reacts

Joel B. Pollak 19 Feb 2024

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Isaac Herzog reacted Monday to the release of surveillance video showing the abduction of Shiri Bibas and her young children on October 7 by reiterating their call the release of all Israeli hostages.

The Bibas and her small children — Ariel, 4, and Kfir, 1 — were abducted and are believed to be alive, though Hamas claimed they had been killed in an Israeli airstrike. Hamas also released a hostage video of Yarden Bibas, the husband and father of the family.

The redheaded mother-and-children trio have become iconic symbols of the more than 130 Israeli hostages still in captivity. Kfir was an infant when kidnapped and turned one year old in captivity.


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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #651 on: February 19, 2024, 06:10:03 pm »
Betrayed: Biden Proposes Anti-Israel Temporary ‘Ceasefire’ Resolution at United Nations Security Council

President Joe Biden plans to introduce a resolution at the United Nations Security Council calling for a temporary “ceasefire” and demanding Israel refrain from conducting an attack on the last Hamas battalions in Gaza that are the key to winning the war.

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President Joe Biden plans to introduce a resolution at the United Nations Security Council calling for a temporary “ceasefire” and demanding Israel refrain from conducting an attack on the last Hamas battalions in Gaza that are the key to winning the war.

Israel has been adamant that it must attack Hamas in Rafah, a city in southern Gaza on the Egyptian border, to win the war. Rafah is the last stronghold of the Palestinian terror organization, and also the key to smuggling routes into and out of Gaza.

The White House has said publicly that it would not support an attack on Rafah, at least without an evacuation of civilians. Even after Israel promised to develop a plan to evacuate civilians, the Biden administration has opposed an Israeli operation in Gaza.

That opposition has continued despite a successful Israeli raid last Monday that rescued two civilian Israeli hostages from Rafah. It has become evident that Biden intends to let Hamas survive, to use it as leverage to force Israel to accept a Palestinian state.

The U.S. promised to veto a resolution, set to be introduced Tuesday by Algeria, calling for a permanent ceasefire. But the Times of Israel reported Monday on a draft alternative resolution by the U.S. that would use the word “ceasefire,” in a temporary sense.

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« Reply #652 on: February 19, 2024, 06:25:10 pm »
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President Joe Biden plans to introduce a resolution at the United Nations Security Council calling for a temporary “ceasefire” and demanding Israel refrain from conducting an attack on the last Hamas battalions in Gaza that are the key to winning the war.
Words are insufficient to describe his idiocy.
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No mention of hostages in the report, indicating that Team Biden is no longer exploiting the hostages to demand a Hamas victory. It's simply abandoned the hostages---including the American ones. Kabul all over again. And make no mistake. This is ALL about placating the far left.
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The U.S. is officially transferring its support from Israel to Hamas in the single greatest gift to genocidal terrorists in history.

https://twitter.com/CarolineGlick/status/1759712970961989862
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« Reply #653 on: February 19, 2024, 06:49:03 pm »
Words are insufficient to describe his idiocy.

The U.S. is officially transferring its support from Israel to Hamas in the single greatest gift to genocidal terrorists in history.

https://twitter.com/CarolineGlick/status/1759712970961989862



That is heart breaking. Stand tall BiBi.

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« Reply #654 on: February 19, 2024, 06:51:03 pm »
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The U.S. is officially transferring its support from Israel to Hamas in the single greatest gift to genocidal terrorists in history.

The End Times must be drawing nigh.  And the US will go out as a goat nation.
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« Reply #655 on: February 19, 2024, 08:08:27 pm »
The End Times must be drawing nigh.  And the US will go out as a goat nation.

Too bad, we need a Lamb, not a Goat.
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« Reply #656 on: February 19, 2024, 09:21:22 pm »


That is heart breaking. Stand tall BiBi.

Ditto.

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« Reply #657 on: February 20, 2024, 01:23:25 pm »
Betrayed: Biden Proposes Anti-Israel Temporary ‘Ceasefire’ Resolution at United Nations Security Council

President Joe Biden plans to introduce a resolution at the United Nations Security Council calling for a temporary “ceasefire” and demanding Israel refrain from conducting an attack on the last Hamas battalions in Gaza that are the key to winning the war.
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Hamas' 10/7 invasion proved Hamas is an existential threat. In the face of that Israel has shown it is willing to tell LIEden to F off. Israel will probably find telling UN anti-Semites to F off even easier.
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« Reply #658 on: February 20, 2024, 01:57:21 pm »
Hamas' 10/7 invasion proved Hamas is an existential threat. In the face of that Israel has shown it is willing to tell LIEden to F off. Israel will probably find telling UN anti-Semites to F off even easier.

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« Reply #659 on: February 20, 2024, 03:00:24 pm »
U.S. Vetoes ‘Ceasefire’ Resolution, but Prepares Another

The United States vetoed a United Nations Security Council resolution Tuesday calling for a permanent ceasefire in the war between Israel and Hamas terrorists in Gaza, but has prepared its own resolution calling for a “temporary” ceasefire.

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« Reply #660 on: February 20, 2024, 03:07:47 pm »
When have the Palestinians ever abide by a UN Resolution?
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #661 on: February 20, 2024, 03:58:03 pm »
There was a "ceasefire" between Israel and the Pallies in effect on October 6th, 2023.
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« Reply #662 on: February 21, 2024, 12:24:43 pm »
***WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT *** Israel Releases Initial Report on Hamas Sexual Violence October 7

Joel B. Pollak 21 Feb 2024

Israel released an initial report Wednesday into sexual violence committed by Hamas during the October 7 terror attack.

The report, compiled by the Association of Rape Crisis Centers in Israel (ARCCI), was carefully compiled from eyewitness testimonies and the available forensic evidence. As Breitbart News reported in November, accusations of rape, sexual assault, and other acts of sexual violence were initially difficult to compile because Israeli authorities were focused on stopping the Hamas attack.

However, in the weeks that followed, eyewitnesses began to come forward and to describe sexual violence, much of it deeply sadistic, against both women and men, both during the October 7 attack and against Israeli hostages held by Hamas in Gaza.

The new report describes horrific atrocities, including gang rape; the mutilation of female and male genitals; the physical and psychological torture of rape victims; and evidence that relatives and friends of victims were forced to watch these sexual assaults.

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« Reply #663 on: February 21, 2024, 09:33:30 pm »
Take no prisoners.  Israel should not relent until every one of these sick barbaric animals has taken his/her place in the BURNING LAKE OF FIRE.
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« Reply #664 on: February 22, 2024, 09:37:55 am »
Armed Civilian Shoots Terrorist, Saves Lives in Terror Attack Near Jerusalem

Hananya Ben Shimon, 23, an Israeli reservist fresh from military service in Gaza, shot and killed one of three Palestinian terrorists who had opened fire on civilians stuck in traffic on Thursday near Jerusalem, helping to stop the deadly attack.

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« Reply #665 on: February 22, 2024, 11:20:58 am »
1.) There were no Israeli troops in Gaza on October 6, 2023.
2.) There was a ceasefire on October 6, 2023.

Hamas is the aggressor.  Hamas could end this now by surrendering and releasing all the hostages.  But Hamas won't do that because they know the Western Press will run sad-sap stories about suffering Palestinian babies to gin up support for a ceasefire that advanatges Hamas.  Hamas doesn't give a damn about Palestinians, Palestinians mothers, nor Palestinian babies.

The best thing Gazans can do for themselves is to turn on Hamas, and kill Hamas personnel much like Los Pepes killed memebers Pablo Escobar's drug cartel.
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« Reply #666 on: February 23, 2024, 05:51:21 am »
It would be so cool if Israel invaded Cairo and took 500 women and children as hostages, while murdering everyone else.
The American Left would love it. The American Left would claim the Israelis are the "victims".
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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« Reply #667 on: February 23, 2024, 10:08:51 am »
Netanyahu Presents Plan for ‘The Day After Hamas’ in Gaza

Joel B. Pollak 22 Feb 2024

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu presented his plan for “the day after” Hamas is defeated in Gaza to his Cabinet on Thursday, calling for local officials without links to terrorism to run the government, and Israel to exercise military control.

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With the day after possibly a few days away, Netanyahu has finally released his plan. Here is a full translation:

In the immediate term:

*It is an absolutely essential condition that the IDF continue to fight until it has reached all of its goals, the destruction of Hams and Islamic Jihad in terms of military, infrastructure, and governance capabilities, the return of the hostages, and the prevention of a threat from Gaza for the long term.

In the longer term:

The security sector:
1)  Israel will maintain its operational freedom in Gaza, without a time limit, to prevent the renewal of terrorism and prevent threats from Gaza.
2) The security perimeter in Gaza on the border with Israel will remain as long as there is a security need for it.
3) Israel will close the Egypt_Gaza border in order to stop the rearmament of terror groups in Gaza. The border will be closed, as much as possible, in cooperation with the US and Egypt, and will be based on efforts to prevent arms smuggling above and below ground, including in Rafah.
4) Israel will militarily control all areas to the west of the Jordan River, including the Gaza envelope (land, air, sea, spectrum), to stop the rearmament and strengthening of terror organizations in Judea and Samaria and Gaza, to prevent threats emanating from them towards Israel.
5) There will be total disarmament of Gaza, aside from what is needed for civil order. The responsibility for guaranteeing this will fall to Israel.

In  the civil sector:

1) As much as possible, the civil administration and public order will fall to local actors with administrative experience. These local actors will not be identified with states or organizations supporting terror and will not be paid by them.
2) A plan for deradicalization will be advanced in all religious, educational, and welfare institutions in Gaza. All this will be done through cooperation with Arab states with experience in deradicalization in their territory.
3) Israel will act to close UNRWA, whose workers were involved in the October 7 massacre and whose schools encouraged the destruction of Israel. They will be replaced with responsible international welfare institutions.
4) Rebuilding Gaza will only be allowed after the demilitarization has been completed and when the radicalization has begun. The rebuilding plan will be financed and led by states acceptable to Israel.

In the long term:

Basic criteria for a future peaceful settlement.
* Israel rejects out-of-hand unilateral demands on a future settlement with the Palestinians. The terms will be decided through direct negotiations without preconditions.
* Israel will continue to oppose a unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state. A recognition of this sort will offer a massive and unprecedented prize for the terrorism perpetrated on October 7 and will prevent any peaceful resolution of the conflict.

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« Reply #668 on: February 23, 2024, 01:57:16 pm »
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Judea and Samaria are rightful parts of the Jewish homeland, and Israelis have a right to live there.

President Biden's decision to overturn our policy and call Israeli 'settlements' illegal will not further the cause of peace. It rewards Hamas for its brutal attacks on October 7th and punishes Israel instead. These Israeli communities are not standing in the way of peace; militant Palestinian terrorism is.
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« Reply #669 on: February 24, 2024, 09:04:38 am »
ISRAELI RAMADAN ULTIMATUM: Either Hamas frees all hostages by Ramadan or the IDF will smash the terrorists’ last stronghold in Rafah during the Muslim holy month
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Ramadan begins on March 11th this year. Looks like Israel could be a major contributor to the annual “Ramadan Bombathon.”

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« Reply #670 on: February 24, 2024, 10:06:05 am »
Biden, to Appease Palestinians, Reverses Trump Policy on Legality of Settlements

Joel B. Pollak 23 Feb 2024

President Joe Biden attempted to appease Palestinians Friday by reversing a Donald Trump-era policy Friday that declared the presence of Israeli communities in Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) to be legal under international law.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who has taken an increasingly hostile tone toward Israel, declared that settlements were “”inconsistent with international law,” reverting to a policy adopted by Barack Obama during the lame-duck weeks of his administration in 2016.

Trump reversed the Obama policy in 2019.

The decision was likely taken to appease domestic constituencies, including Muslim- and Arab-American voters in swing states like Michigan, who have been unhappy with the Biden administration’s (increasingly doubtful) support for Israel against Hamas.

However it also serves as a reward for Hamas terrorists, who can now claim that by launching a terror attack on October 7 that murdered 1200 people in Israel, and by seizing nearly 250 hostages, it has reversed U.S. support for Israel in Judea and Samaria.


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« Reply #672 on: February 24, 2024, 06:20:33 pm »
Hostage and ceasefire negotiations get closer to a deal
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A new proposal for a ceasefire and hostage exchange presented by American, Egyptian, and Qatari officials was floated to their Israeli counterparts on Friday in Paris.

The proposal suggested that Israel release hundreds of Palestinian prisoners in exchange for 40 from Hamas, plus a six-week ceasefire. The Hamas-held hostages include both civilian and military women, men over 50, and Israelis in serious medical condition.

Neither side has agreed to the terms so far, but U.S. officials note that some progress has been made. However, they claim the completion of a deal is still a ways off.

“We are working to get another framework for the release of our hostages, as well as the completion of the elimination of the Hamas battalions in Rafah,” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement obtained by Axios on Saturday. “Only a combination of military pressure and tough negotiations will lead to the release of our hostages, the elimination of Hamas and the achievement of all the war’s objectives.”

The proposal would also allow some Palestinians to start returning to the northern part of the Gaza Strip, but details on how many people can return and where will be determined in a later phase of the negotiations.

The Biden administration is hoping a ceasefire deal will be reached by the start of Ramadan in two weeks. Officials also hope to begin the next part of negotiations over the next few days.

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« Reply #673 on: February 25, 2024, 10:05:15 am »
Israel's responses need to be:

1. YGTBFKM!

2. Why are you aiding the people who invaded us, killed us, raped us, and abducted us?
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« Reply #674 on: February 25, 2024, 10:41:57 am »
In Paris, Israel and mediators agree on outline for hostage deal, pending Hamas okay

War cabinet votes to send delegation to Qatar for more talks; framework said to include 6-week truce, release of some 40 hostage women, children, female soldiers, elderly, ill

By ToI Staff and Agencies 24 February 2024, 9:37 pm Updated: Today, 2:29 am

An Israeli delegation of top security officials returned from talks in Paris on Saturday as reports spread of growing hope in Jerusalem that a new hostage release deal with Hamas could be within reach.

Israel’s war cabinet was conferring by telephone on Saturday evening to discuss the emerging “outline of an agreement,” described by an Israeli official cited widely in media as a “basis on which to build a plan and the principles for negotiations.”

“There’s significant progress and a solid basis for discussions,” the official said.

At the same time, an Israeli official told The Times of Israel that while there was optimism in Israeli media about the likelihood of a deal, the delegation itself was more cautious.

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« Reply #675 on: February 25, 2024, 10:49:31 am »
Not to worry...Hamas will scotch the deal.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #676 on: February 25, 2024, 01:33:31 pm »

Netanyahu: Once We Begin the Rafah Operation, Victory Is ‘Weeks Away’

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation” that victory in their war with Hamas was “weeks away” once the Israeli military operation began in Rafah, a Palestinian city in the southern Gaza Strip.

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« Reply #677 on: February 25, 2024, 06:24:17 pm »
If the Biden/Obama regime is elected again, I have no doubt we will see American forces attacking Israeli positions in Gaza and the West Bank.

The only thing stopping Bobama from attack NOW ... TODAY is the election. If they manage to get that behind them, then nothing will hold them back from fighting on the side of Hamas/PLO/Hezbollah and Iran.

It is clearly obvious that is what they want to do.
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« Reply #678 on: February 25, 2024, 06:31:10 pm »
Gonna be hard to produce hostages when most are likely dead.

Yep.  I suspect Hamas had already run out of live hostages during the first deal.  Which is why they broke off the agreement.
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« Reply #679 on: February 25, 2024, 08:13:32 pm »
If the Biden/Obama regime is elected again, I have no doubt we will see American forces attacking Israeli positions in Gaza and the West Bank.

The only thing stopping Bobama from attack NOW ... TODAY is the election. If they manage to get that behind them, then nothing will hold them back from fighting on the side of Hamas/PLO/Hezbollah and Iran.

It is clearly obvious that is what they want to do.
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 Biden: Israel willing to halt war during Ramadan if hostage deal reached
by Tara Suter - 02/27/24 8:14 AM ET

President Biden suggested Israel will be willing to halt its war in Gaza during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, but only if a deal to release hostages held by Hamas is reached.

“Ramadan’s coming up and there has been an agreement by the Israelis that they would not engage in activities during Ramadan as well, in order to give us time to get all the hostages out,” Biden said Monday on NBC’s “Late Night With Seth Meyers.”

As concerns have risen globally over Israel’s potential invasion of the southern city of Rafah in Gaza — where many Palestinians have sheltered there among the war — Ramadan, which begins March 10, is perceived as an unofficial deal deadline.

Biden, however, said he thinks Israel has decelerated the bombardment of Rafah, according to the The Associated Press.

“They have to and they have made a commitment to me that they’re going to see to it that there’s an ability to evacuate significant portions of Rafah before they go and take out the remainder Hamas,” the president said. “But it’s a process.”

Israeli officials were surprised by his comments, and said they did not come in coordination with leadership, per the AP. A Hamas official also deemphasized any feeling of progress and said the group would not lessen on its demands, the news wire reported.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #682 on: February 29, 2024, 08:50:45 am »
Hamas supporters claim Israeli forces fired on desperate "Palestinians" simply trying to get stuff from aid trucks. Truth is that they trampled each other and the trucks hit them.

Video from Twitter:

Not one of these people have a single bullet wound. These civilians attacked the aid convoy in the thousands and the trucks rode over them as well as many trampled over each other.
How do I know this? Because there is a video showing it happen:

https://twitter.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1763191758005883299
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Hamas supporters claim Israeli forces fired on desperate "Palestinians" simply trying to get stuff from aid trucks.

In the real world a few months ago it was doing this so they could raid the aid trucks. But the MSM will insta-publish Hamas' lies on page A-1 and if they correct it, the correction will be on page ZZ-28
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« Reply #684 on: February 29, 2024, 03:24:53 pm »
I think you have to be a Gen Xer to get this.
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« Reply #685 on: February 29, 2024, 03:46:22 pm »
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A member of the Palestinian security forces killed two Jews in a terrorist attack today. Many more in the PA security forces have been involved in terrorism for months.

The US assigns a three-star general to oversee and advise the PA security forces. He spends his days sending anti-Israel propaganda to Capitol Hill creating a false narrative of rising “settler violence.”

Why aren’t we demanding General Fenzel do his job? Have we considered that his complete abdication of core mission and mandate has allowed this to happen?

Where is the audit of the PA security forces?

Where is the pause on any consideration of recognizing a Palestinian state until we root out terrorists from its security forces?

This is a major threat to peace and stability - no one’s plans for what comes next will be workable if terror cells permeate the PA security forces.
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« Reply #686 on: February 29, 2024, 04:15:33 pm »
Hamas will only release hostages to buy time to re-arm and recruit.

Hamas has money for rockets, tunnels, and miltary training, but no money for baby formula?  Tsk tsk tsk

Hamas steals aid shiments?  Tsk tsk tsk

Hamas makes poor choices for the Gazans that "elected" them.
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Hamas will only release hostages to buy time to re-arm and recruit.

Hamas has money for rockets, tunnels, and miltary training, but no money for baby formula?  Tsk tsk tsk

Hamas steals aid shiments?  Tsk tsk tsk

Hamas makes poor choices for the Gazans that "elected" them.

...but really good choices for themselves!
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So basically, these 'innocent' [sic] Gaza civilians (whom Biden is about to shower with US aid) tipped off Hamas about the Israeli presence in this building, likely going as far as providing intel and assisting in the placement of explosives.
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« Reply #693 on: March 01, 2024, 04:54:39 pm »
And by Gaza, we mean Ukraine, er, we mean Israel, no wait, we mean someplace else entirely. Airdrops into Delaware, maybe.
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 Israel agrees to framework of proposed 6-week cease-fire in Gaza: Report
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03/02/24 4:01 PM ET


Israel has reportedly agreed to the framework of a proposed temporary cease-fire and hostage release in Gaza that comes after weeks of negotiations by international mediators.

The Israelis “have more or less accepted” the framework and now the ball is in Hamas’ court to agree to the terms, a senior U.S. administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told the The Associated Press Saturday, a day before talks will continue in Egypt.

The deal, if accepted by all sides, will reportedly include a six-week cease-fire and Hamas would release hostages considered at risk, according to the U.S. official. The framework would also include a larger influx of humanitarian aid into Gaza as thousands of Palestinians, around one-quarter of Gaza’s residents, are a step away from famine, according to a senior U.N. official.

The response from Hamas about the proposed deal is expected on Sunday, a senior Egyptian official who spoke on condition of anonymity told the AP.

Scrutiny of Israel has intensified as more than 30,000 Palestinians have been killed and hundreds of thousands are battling for survival in northern Gaza following retaliation by Israel after Hamas’ terrorist attack on Israel on Oct. 7 that left over 1,200 Israelis dead.

The U.S. Air Forces Central began air dropping aid into Gaza on Saturday. President Biden announced the plan on Friday, reiterating that he believes the U.S. and others need to do more to help Palestinians.

This comes as one in six children in Gaza under the age of two suffer from malnutrition, according to the U.N. official, per the AP.

The proposed cease-fire comes as more than 100 Palestinians died in Gaza City when trying to access humanitarian aid from the convoy delivering food. Palestinians have accused Israel of firing at civilians while Israeli officials said their forces only shot those who were a threat.

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Israel agrees to framework of proposed 6-week cease-fire in Gaza: Report
by Filip Timotija   
03/02/24 4:01 PM ET


Israel has reportedly agreed to the framework of a proposed temporary cease-fire and hostage release in Gaza that comes after weeks of negotiations by international mediators.

The Israelis “have more or less accepted” the framework and now the ball is in Hamas’ court to agree to the terms, a senior U.S. administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told the The Associated Press Saturday, a day before talks will continue in Egypt.

The deal, if accepted by all sides, will reportedly include a six-week cease-fire and Hamas would release hostages considered at risk, according to the U.S. official. The framework would also include a larger influx of humanitarian aid into Gaza as thousands of Palestinians, around one-quarter of Gaza’s residents, are a step away from famine, according to a senior U.N. official.

The response from Hamas about the proposed deal is expected on Sunday, a senior Egyptian official who spoke on condition of anonymity told the AP.

Scrutiny of Israel has intensified as more than 30,000 Palestinians have been killed and hundreds of thousands are battling for survival in northern Gaza following retaliation by Israel after Hamas’ terrorist attack on Israel on Oct. 7 that left over 1,200 Israelis dead.

The U.S. Air Forces Central began air dropping aid into Gaza on Saturday. President Biden announced the plan on Friday, reiterating that he believes the U.S. and others need to do more to help Palestinians.

This comes as one in six children in Gaza under the age of two suffer from malnutrition, according to the U.N. official, per the AP.

The proposed cease-fire comes as more than 100 Palestinians died in Gaza City when trying to access humanitarian aid from the convoy delivering food. Palestinians have accused Israel of firing at civilians while Israeli officials said their forces only shot those who were a threat.

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https://thehill.com/policy/international/4503940-israel-agrees-to-framework-of-proposed-ceasefire-gaza/

Hamas will "accept" the deal, and resume replenishing their missile stocks and rebuilding tunnels.  Then, in the near future, they will slaughter Israelis again and start new missile barrages.

It's obvious.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #696 on: March 02, 2024, 05:13:46 pm »
Hamas will "accept" the deal, and resume replenishing their missile stocks and rebuilding tunnels.  Then, in the near future, they will slaughter Israelis again and start new missile barrages.

It's obvious.

You are absolutely right and I can't believe that Bibi agreed to this.  Doubtful that there are any hostages in any kind of decent shape to release; tortured, maimed, and raped.
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« Reply #697 on: March 02, 2024, 05:53:25 pm »
Israel agrees to framework of proposed 6-week cease-fire in Gaza: Report
by Filip Timotija   
03/02/24 4:01 PM ET


Israel has reportedly agreed to the framework of a proposed temporary cease-fire and hostage release in Gaza that comes after weeks of negotiations by international mediators.

The Israelis “have more or less accepted” the framework and now the ball is in Hamas’ court to agree to the terms, a senior U.S. administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told the The Associated Press Saturday, a day before talks will continue in Egypt.

The deal, if accepted by all sides, will reportedly include a six-week cease-fire and Hamas would release hostages considered at risk, according to the U.S. official. The framework would also include a larger influx of humanitarian aid into Gaza as thousands of Palestinians, around one-quarter of Gaza’s residents, are a step away from famine, according to a senior U.N. official.

The response from Hamas about the proposed deal is expected on Sunday, a senior Egyptian official who spoke on condition of anonymity told the AP.

Scrutiny of Israel has intensified as more than 30,000 Palestinians have been killed and hundreds of thousands are battling for survival in northern Gaza following retaliation by Israel after Hamas’ terrorist attack on Israel on Oct. 7 that left over 1,200 Israelis dead.

The U.S. Air Forces Central began air dropping aid into Gaza on Saturday. President Biden announced the plan on Friday, reiterating that he believes the U.S. and others need to do more to help Palestinians.

This comes as one in six children in Gaza under the age of two suffer from malnutrition, according to the U.N. official, per the AP.

The proposed cease-fire comes as more than 100 Palestinians died in Gaza City when trying to access humanitarian aid from the convoy delivering food. Palestinians have accused Israel of firing at civilians while Israeli officials said their forces only shot those who were a threat.

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https://thehill.com/policy/international/4503940-israel-agrees-to-framework-of-proposed-ceasefire-gaza/
"Scrutiny of Israel has intensified as more than 30,000 Palestinians have been killed and hundreds of thousands are battling for survival in northern Gaza"
I'm sure they're counting the subhuman scum who deserved their fate and were rightfully killed. So maybe a few hundred "collateral" casualties? But given their celebrations of mass murders, they've gotten off light.
"following retaliation by Israel"
And just what in the ever living hell was Israel supposed to do? Forget it happened?
"after Hamas’ terrorist attack on Israel on Oct. 7 that left over 1,200 Israelis dead."
A very "neat" way to say slaughtered, mutiliated, dismembered, etc.

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The U.S. Air Forces Central began air dropping aid into Gaza on Saturday. President Biden announced the plan on Friday, reiterating that he believes the U.S. and others need to do more to help Palestinians.

And where will that aid go?

Why are we funding both sides?
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« Reply #699 on: March 02, 2024, 05:56:48 pm »
Hamas will "accept" the deal, and resume replenishing their missile stocks and rebuilding tunnels.  Then, in the near future, they will slaughter Israelis again and start new missile barrages.

It's obvious.
Yep...unfortunately Israel once again finds itself "at odds" with the rest of the world. Now she must compromise her people and sacrifice them, again. What an insane world we live in that supports and defends sub-human savages over a country that just wants to live in peace.
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