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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #600 on: February 12, 2024, 10:43:41 am »
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... but ... but ... there's no Hamas in Rafa.  Rafa is a city of innoent Gazans that's as pure and innocent as the newly fallen snow.
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« Reply #601 on: February 12, 2024, 10:48:05 am »
I thought I heard on TND this morning that there was a Hamas Communication Center under a U.N. facilty at Rafah. 

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« Reply #602 on: February 12, 2024, 12:36:29 pm »
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Biden called Netanyahu today to tell him not to go into Rafah to avoid a collapse of hostage negotiations.

Israel just rescued two hostages in Rafah.

This is the moment for Biden and his team - and every mainstream media outlet carrying their water - to take a big step back.

I wonder whether this is something LIEden feared would happen. That not only would Netanyahu "disobey" LIEden, but that there would be some result that proved Israel was right to "disobey" LIEden.

LIEden should have known in early 2021 that Israel would notice that he was filling his malAdministration with Israel-Haters and be prepared to respond accordingly.
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« Reply #603 on: February 12, 2024, 12:40:39 pm »
I thought I heard on TND this morning that there was a Hamas Communication Center under a U.N. facilty at Rafah. 

Blow 'em out of the sky like quail Bibi.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/02/israeli-uncovers-hamas-server-farm-and-tunnel-complex-beneath-unrwas-gaza-hq/

No one who has even slightly followed UNRWA's antics in the past 4 or 5 decades should be surprised.

Has any nation dared to ask where Hamas got all that concrete and wood support beams for their hundreds of miles of tunnels?
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #604 on: February 12, 2024, 04:10:13 pm »
I have to agree. Why don't all of these "From the river to the Sea" people go to Gaza?

Why not one of them? Why not any of them?
I mean that earnestly. Why don't some of them go there? Why not one of them go there?

If you really believe all that stuff you are saying, then you would join us!
Come! Come to gaza. We love you ... and together we will finally defeat the evil monster from Transylvania!
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« Reply #606 on: February 12, 2024, 05:05:02 pm »
"we could then take the time to build something more enduring"

Yes, they could take the time to fortify their missile silos. When an Arab says, 'build something more enduring', they mean exactly what they say.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #607 on: February 12, 2024, 05:12:37 pm »
I have to agree. Why don't all of these "From the river to the Sea" people go to Gaza?

Why not one of them? Why not any of them?
I mean that earnestly. Why don't some of them go there? Why not one of them go there?

If you really believe all that stuff you are saying, then you would join us!
Come! Come to gaza. We love you ... and together we will finally defeat the evil monster from Transylvania!


Some Americans do go over there, FA and FO.  Remember Rachel "Pancake" Corrie?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #608 on: February 12, 2024, 05:19:40 pm »
I wonder whether this is something LIEden feared would happen. That not only would Netanyahu "disobey" LIEden, but that there would be some result that proved Israel was right to "disobey" LIEden.

LIEden should have known in early 2021 that Israel would notice that he was filling his malAdministration with Israel-Haters and be prepared to respond accordingly.



If he didn't know then, he does now (or not?). Biden has to have a little hurt that he gave wrong advise. Or should.

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« Reply #609 on: February 12, 2024, 08:01:41 pm »
Saudi Arabia, Egypt Threaten Israel With Punitive Measures as IDF Clamps Down on Hamas Terrorist Leadership Hiding in Rafah

Legal Insurrection by Vijeta Uniyal Monday, February 12, 2024

Cairo threatens to suspend the 1979 Egypt–Israel peace treaty signed in Camp David.

As the Israeli armed forces gear up to capture the last major terrorist stronghold of Rafah in southern Gaza with the aim of annihilating Hamas’ Gaza-based leadership and liberating the hostages, the Biden administration, European governments, and Arab regimes are exerting enormous pressure on Israel to halt the military operation.

Saudi Arabia and Egypt, the two most powerful Arab states, are threatening to unleash punitive measures against Jerusalem as the Israeli military is posed to capture Rafah, the southernmost part of Gaza, along the Egyptian border, thereby cutting off Hamas’ sole escape and weapons supply route.

“Saudi Arabia’s foreign ministry warned Saturday of “very serious repercussions of storming and targeting” the city of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip,” CNN reported Sunday.

Cairo is threatening to suspend the Egypt–Israel peace treaty signed in 1979. “Egypt is threatening to suspend its peace treaty with Israel if Israeli troops are sent into the densely populated Gaza border town of Rafah,” CNBC reported Sunday, citing Egyptian and Western officials.

“The threat to suspend the Camp David Accords, a cornerstone of regional stability for nearly a half-century, came after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said sending troops into Rafah was necessary to win the four-month war against the Palestinian militant group Hamas.” the broadcaster added.

The Biden administration joined the chorus of the United Nations, the European Union, and European nations, telling Israel to halt the military operation as Hamas’ Gaza-based leadership faces total annihilation if it fails to surrender and release the renaming Israeli hostages languishing in captivity for more than five months since the October 7 terror attacks.

“Biden and officials with the United Nations have warned that an Israeli military ground offensive in Rafah,” the Guardian newspaper noted Saturday. “Biden’s national security adviser John Kirby has said the US would not be in favor of any assault on Rafah without due consideration of civilians.”

Germany’s state-run DW TV on Sunday reported the European pressure mounting on Israel:

    “The people in Gaza cannot disappear into thin air,” German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock wrote on X, formerly Twitter, urging a ceasefire and adding that an Israeli offensive on Rafah would be a “humanitarian catastrophe in the making.”

More: https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/02/saudi-arabia-egypt-threaten-israel-with-punitive-measures-as-idf-clamps-down-on-hamas-terrorist-leadership-hiding-in-rafah/

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #610 on: February 12, 2024, 08:21:59 pm »

Cairo threatens to suspend the 1979 Egypt–Israel peace treaty signed in Camp David.

F**cking Hell YES!! Jimmy Carter was a FOOL who set the world on fire with Islam!
Take back Gaza, take back Sanai and piss on Jimmuah Carter's grave!
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« Reply #611 on: February 12, 2024, 08:25:28 pm »
As the Israeli armed forces gear up to capture the last major terrorist stronghold of Rafah in southern Gaza with the aim of annihilating Hamas’ Gaza-based leadership and liberating the hostages, the Biden administration, European governments, and Arab regimes are exerting enormous pressure on Israel to halt the military operation.

Nice going there, Joe.  You are about to trash Jimmy Carter's only accomplishment.
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« Reply #612 on: February 12, 2024, 08:26:44 pm »
How Israel has achieved a 50 to 1 kill ratio on Hamas

Tablet by Edward N. Luttwak 2/8/2024

Why Israel Is Winning in Gaza

The tactical victory that Hamas achieved on October 7, with all its scenes of unimaginable horror, has become a leading driver of its strategic defeat

Anyone who has ever been in combat knows that the enemy is almost always invisible, because to remain alive one must remain behind good cover: The one and only time I saw live enemies walking toward me, I was so astonished that I hesitated before opening fire (ill-trained, they were walking into a blinding sun).

It is the same in urban combat, but much worse because the invisible enemy can be a sniper behind a window—and any one of the countless apartment houses in Gaza has dozens of windows—or he can wait with an RPG at ground level to pop out and launch his rocket, whose short range makes it of little use in open country but is amply sufficient across the width of a street. Mortars, which launch their bombs parabolically in an inverted U, are exceptionally valuable in urban combat because they can attack forces moving up one street from three streets away, beyond the reach of immediate counterfire.

Finally, there are mega-mines: not the standard land mines with five to 10 kilos of explosives placed on the ground or just under, but wired demolition charges with 10 times as much explosive covered over with asphalt, to be exploded when a tank, troop carrier, or truckload of soldiers is above them.

That is why, from the start of Israel’s counteroffensive into Gaza, almost all the media military experts, including colonels and generals festooned with campaign ribbons (though few if any had ever seen actual combat) immediately warned that Israel’s invasion of Gaza could not possibly defeat Hamas, but would certainly result in a horrifying number of Israeli casualties, before resulting in a bloody and strategically pointless stalemate.

And that was before it was realized that there were hundreds of miles of tunnels beneath Gaza, from which fighters could emerge from invisibility to attack advancing soldiers from the rear, or to set up instant ambushes in apparently cleared terrain, and through which encircled fighters under attack could safely escape. In the special case of Gaza, moreover, the crowded urban battlefield offers endless opportunities for the easiest of tactics, because contrary to accusations that only expensively educated U.S. college students could possibly believe, Israeli soldiers do not deliberately kill innocent civilians going about their business. Therefore Hamas fighters can be perfect civilians walking alongside women and children right up until the moment they duck into the right doorway to take up prepared weapons and come out shooting

Yet as of now, after 124 days of fighting in both Gaza and in the north against Hezbollah, a total of 562 Israeli soldiers have died—a total that includes 373 soldiers and local security officers, who died on Oct. 7 itself, when any and all immediately available soldiers—only some of them as organized units—rushed in to fight Hamas infiltrators wherever they could find them. Even a single death is immensely tragic for an entire family, and quite a few are entrepreneurs with employees who depend on them, so that every single death gravely affects many in many ways.

That must be said and emphasized before adding that the actual number of Israeli soldiers killed in the counteroffensive until now is not in the thousands suggested by the beribboned skeptics who were gleefully echoed by the malevolent, but under 300 as of this writing. In other words, only a very, very small number, given the magnitude of the forces involved on both sides, and the exceptional complexity of the battlefield. By way of comparison, 95 U.S. Marines and four British soldiers were killed in the six-week-long, 2004 battle of Fallujah, the famous Pumbedita of the Talmudists but a small town, fighting some 4,000 Sunni fighters. In Gaza, estimates are that Israel faced approximately 30,000 trained Hamas fighters at the start of the war.

Regardless of what happens from now on, the Gaza fighting to date has been an exceptional feat of arms. A conservative estimate—the lowest I have seen—is that approximately 10,000 Hamas fighters have been killed or terminally disabled, along with an equal number of wounded who may or may not fight again in the future.

The sensational 1 to 50, or near enough, kill ratio achieved by the IDF in fighting Hamas in Gaza is all the more exceptional for reasons that neither official Americans nor official Israelis care to mention, albeit for different reasons.

The first is tactical and technical. Without saying more, it is fair to conclude from news accounts that Israel’s very innovative methods to surveil, penetrate, and destroy Hamas tunnels have been markedly and unexpectedly successful.

But the constraints placed on Israel’s combat operations have been very severe, and a major impediment to its fight.

More: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/israel-winning-gaza


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« Reply #613 on: February 12, 2024, 08:35:45 pm »
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It was a mistake to attack Israeli most vulnerable.
Now, the entire Middle East is on a wake up call.
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« Reply #614 on: February 13, 2024, 02:19:53 pm »
Some Americans do go over there, FA and FO.  Remember Rachel "Pancake" Corrie?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie
Ok ... so 20 years ago some tattooed green hair lesbian went to the West Bank. So what?
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« Reply #615 on: February 13, 2024, 02:48:48 pm »
Cairo threatens to suspend the 1979 Egypt–Israel peace treaty signed in Camp David.

F**cking Hell YES!! Jimmy Carter was a FOOL who set the world on fire with Islam!
Take back Gaza, take back Sanai and piss on Jimmuah Carter's grave!
They are just panicked that the peaceful Palestinians will start flooding into their countries, well I hope they do!
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« Reply #616 on: February 13, 2024, 03:26:16 pm »
Ok ... so 20 years ago some tattooed green hair lesbian went to the West Bank. So what?
I want all of the Hamas supporters ... to support Hamas. Hamas needs you now! You should come now!

I agree with this.
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« Reply #617 on: February 13, 2024, 03:29:09 pm »
Cairo threatens to suspend the 1979 Egypt–Israel peace treaty signed in Camp David.

F**cking Hell YES!! Jimmy Carter was a FOOL who set the world on fire with Islam!
Take back Gaza, take back Sanai and piss on Jimmuah Carter's grave!

Yes, one would think that negating the deal should involve the return of the Sinai to Israel.
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« Reply #618 on: February 13, 2024, 06:34:06 pm »
Yes, one would think that negating the deal should involve the return of the Sinai to Israel.

Great point.  Might as well return the Suez Canal, too.
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« Reply #619 on: February 13, 2024, 08:35:10 pm »
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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« Reply #620 on: February 13, 2024, 08:45:05 pm »


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Why did Carter live to be 100 years old. Because it was destine. It was the curse. They wanted him to shit in his own stupidity.

Yes! Sure! I will bring the Ayatollah back to Iran. He is just a stupid old religious guy.

Carter is alive on because  HISTORY want him to feel and to experience just how STUPID liberals and liberalism is.
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« Reply #622 on: February 14, 2024, 09:59:14 pm »
Carter is alive on because  HISTORY want him to feel and to experience just how STUPID liberals and liberalism is.

One would think that with all his medical issues, he would have moved to Cuba by now.  He spent decades trashing the American health care free market by saying that Cuba's health care system was better.  Yet not one visit to a Cuban clinic, doctor, or hospital.  Instead, he chooses a private Atlanta hospital instead.  Go figure.
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« Reply #623 on: February 15, 2024, 02:02:43 am »


If he didn't know then, he does now (or not?). Biden has to have a little hurt that he gave wrong advise. Or should.
I'd wager the 'hurt' is on the guy who said that his favorite sound was the Muslim call to prayer.

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« Reply #624 on: February 15, 2024, 03:17:44 pm »
Israel Rejects Reported Biden Plan for Palestinian State: ‘Not the Time’ for ‘Gifts’

Israel rejected a reported Biden administration plan for a Palestinian state as the outcome of the war that Hamas began with the October 7 terror attack, saying Thursday that now is “not the time” for “gifts” to the Palestinians for having launched the war.

President Joe Biden and U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken have pressed Israel, publicly and privately, to accept a Palestinian state. The Biden administration reportedly stalled a Saudi-Israeli peace plan, several weeks before the war, pressuring both sides to include a pathway to a Palestinian state. The White House has not changed its focus on a Palestinian state even in the wake of the October 7 terror attacks, which convinced many Israelis, left and right, that a Palestinian state next door would be a disaster.

The Washington Post reported Wednesday that the U.S. and several Arab allies are working on a peace plan that would end the current conflict and include unilateral U.S. recognition of a Palestinian state — whether Israel agrees or not.

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Israel is not going to give up control of Gaza so Biden can have his way.
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Israel is not going to give up control of Gaza so Biden can have his way.

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« Reply #627 on: February 15, 2024, 04:14:32 pm »
U.S. recognition of a Palestinian state — whether Israel agrees or not.

Ok ... well ... wait a minute. That is not an 'agreement'. That is an imposition.
So this Islamic America (run by gay Obama) is saying, "We will do whatever the hell we want to do! and F**k you! by the way."
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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #628 on: February 15, 2024, 05:15:27 pm »
U.S. recognition of a Palestinian state — whether Israel agrees or not.

Ok ... well ... wait a minute. That is not an 'agreement'. That is an imposition.
So this Islamic America (run by gay Obama) is saying, "We will do whatever the hell we want to do! and F**k you! by the way."
Am I wrong here, couldn't the Palis have had their independent state decades ago, if they had simply agreed to recognize Israel's right to exist?  **nononono* Once again it's all the JOOOOOS fault.

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« Reply #629 on: February 15, 2024, 07:00:21 pm »
Biden Admin Set to Reward Palestinians For October 7 Massacre With a State and East Jerusalem as Capital

Legal Insurrection by Vijeta Uniyal Thursday, February 15, 2024

Prime Minister Netanyahu’s Office: “Now is not the time to be speaking about gifts for the Palestinian people.”

The Biden administration is planning to reward the Palestinians for the October 7 massacre by enabling them to create a state with its capital in East Jerusalem, a report published by The Washington Post on Wednesday indicates.

Barely four months after Hamas terrorists slaughtered 1200 Israelis as they raped and pillaged their way through Jewish communities in southern Israel, the Biden White House has reportedly joined hands with Arab states and the European Union to clear the path for statehood for Palestinians — who overwhelmingly support Hamas and other terrorist groups.

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The Biden Administration wants to create a Palestinian state, but REFUSES to say who would run it or whether they would be considered our ally.

Here's the obvious truth: Hamas is the popularly elected government, and as a result, a Palestinian state would be run by terrorists.


https://twitter.com/RepBrianMast/status/1758140401771307349

The roadmap for the establishment of a Palestinian state could be announced in the coming weeks, the article suggests. “The Biden administration and a small group of Middle East partners are rushing to complete a detailed, comprehensive plan for long-term peace between Israel and Palestinians, including a firm timeline for the establishment of a Palestinian state, that could be announced as early as the next several weeks,” the WaPo noted.

Under the proposed plan, President Joe Biden is likely to penalize Israelis while rewarding Palestinians. The deal being worked out by the White House would involve the “withdrawal of many, if not all, settler communities on the West Bank” as well as “a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem; the reconstruction of Gaza; and security and governance arrangements for a combined West Bank and Gaza,” the newspaper added.

The Washington Post reported:

    The Biden administration and a small group of Middle East partners are rushing to complete a detailed, comprehensive plan for long-term peace between Israel and Palestinians, including a firm timeline for the establishment of a Palestinian state, that could be announced as early as the next several weeks.

    The urgency of the effort is tied directly to a proposed pause in the fighting and release of hostages held in Gaza by Hamas that is being negotiated by the United States, Qatar and Egypt.

    An initial cease-fire, projected to be at least six weeks, would provide time to make the plan public, recruit additional support and take the initial steps toward its implementation, including the formation of an interim Palestinian government, according to U.S. and Arab officials. Planners hope a hostage agreement can be reached before the beginning of Ramadan, the month of Muslim fasting that begins March 10, lest it compound the deprivation and pressure-cooker atmosphere in Gaza.

    “The key is the hostage deal,” said one U.S. official among several American and Arab diplomats who discussed the subject on the condition of anonymity to avoid derailing the plan before it is completed.

    But even as planning participants — including Egypt, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Palestinian representatives, in addition to the United States — work to reach agreement among themselves, there are new fears that a looming Israeli attack on Rafah will throw the Gaza crisis into overdrive and bury both the hostage deal and long-term peace efforts. (…)

More: https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/02/biden-admin-set-to-reward-palestinians-for-october-7-massacre-with-a-state-with-east-jerusalem-as-capital-washington-post-report-suggests/

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #630 on: February 15, 2024, 08:13:27 pm »
Biden Admin Set to Reward Palestinians For October 7 Massacre With a State and East Jerusalem as Capital

Legal Insurrection by Vijeta Uniyal Thursday, February 15, 2024

Prime Minister Netanyahu’s Office: “Now is not the time to be speaking about gifts for the Palestinian people.”

The Biden administration is planning to reward the Palestinians for the October 7 massacre by enabling them to create a state with its capital in East Jerusalem, a report published by The Washington Post on Wednesday indicates.

Barely four months after Hamas terrorists slaughtered 1200 Israelis as they raped and pillaged their way through Jewish communities in southern Israel, the Biden White House has reportedly joined hands with Arab states and the European Union to clear the path for statehood for Palestinians — who overwhelmingly support Hamas and other terrorist groups.

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The Biden Administration wants to create a Palestinian state, but REFUSES to say who would run it or whether they would be considered our ally.

Here's the obvious truth: Hamas is the popularly elected government, and as a result, a Palestinian state would be run by terrorists.


https://twitter.com/RepBrianMast/status/1758140401771307349

The roadmap for the establishment of a Palestinian state could be announced in the coming weeks, the article suggests. “The Biden administration and a small group of Middle East partners are rushing to complete a detailed, comprehensive plan for long-term peace between Israel and Palestinians, including a firm timeline for the establishment of a Palestinian state, that could be announced as early as the next several weeks,” the WaPo noted.

Under the proposed plan, President Joe Biden is likely to penalize Israelis while rewarding Palestinians. The deal being worked out by the White House would involve the “withdrawal of many, if not all, settler communities on the West Bank” as well as “a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem; the reconstruction of Gaza; and security and governance arrangements for a combined West Bank and Gaza,” the newspaper added.

The Washington Post reported:

    The Biden administration and a small group of Middle East partners are rushing to complete a detailed, comprehensive plan for long-term peace between Israel and Palestinians, including a firm timeline for the establishment of a Palestinian state, that could be announced as early as the next several weeks.

    The urgency of the effort is tied directly to a proposed pause in the fighting and release of hostages held in Gaza by Hamas that is being negotiated by the United States, Qatar and Egypt.

    An initial cease-fire, projected to be at least six weeks, would provide time to make the plan public, recruit additional support and take the initial steps toward its implementation, including the formation of an interim Palestinian government, according to U.S. and Arab officials. Planners hope a hostage agreement can be reached before the beginning of Ramadan, the month of Muslim fasting that begins March 10, lest it compound the deprivation and pressure-cooker atmosphere in Gaza.

    “The key is the hostage deal,” said one U.S. official among several American and Arab diplomats who discussed the subject on the condition of anonymity to avoid derailing the plan before it is completed.

    But even as planning participants — including Egypt, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Palestinian representatives, in addition to the United States — work to reach agreement among themselves, there are new fears that a looming Israeli attack on Rafah will throw the Gaza crisis into overdrive and bury both the hostage deal and long-term peace efforts. (…)

More: https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/02/biden-admin-set-to-reward-palestinians-for-october-7-massacre-with-a-state-with-east-jerusalem-as-capital-washington-post-report-suggests/
Israel owes all of these scum nothing...these bastards set Oct 7th in motion due to their complicity with hamas...smoke 'em all Israel, smoke 'em!
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #631 on: February 16, 2024, 06:20:15 am »
Excuse me...but what gives Biden any authority over the land use options in the Middle East?

Who the Hell is he to just whip up some new (terrorist) country? from what?

Does he want to start a war so badly he'll piss off everybody in the region?

STFU old man. Let them handle it.

And if you're going to pull out, send the weapons and stuff home too.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #632 on: February 16, 2024, 07:57:01 am »
DOD Extends Deployment of Marines Near Gaza

Legal Insurrection by  James Nault Friday, February 16, 2024

Approximately 2,500 Marines to remain on station near Gaza for the final stages of Israel’s takedown of Hamas and rescue of its hostages

As we previously reported, USS Bataan (LHD-5) and its embarked Amphibious Ready Group (ARG), deployed to the Persian Gulf with approximately 2,500 United States Marines, was moved to the Gaza area following the October 7 massacre in Israel: U.S. Military Power Expands in Gaza Area of Operations – An Update:

    [V]ery recent reporting suggests the Bataan and its marines are heading towards Gaza:

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🚨JUST IN: U.S. Defense Officials Confirm 2,500 Marines Are En Route to Israel-Gaza-Lebanon Region

Currently En Route:

- Approx 2,500 Marines with the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit

- USS Bataan

- USS Carter Hall

- USS Mesa Verde

Source: USNI News

This was a big deal, as Admiral James Stavridis, legendary in U.S. Navy circles for his many in-depth thought pieces on naval strategy and tactics over the years, and now retired and dean emeritus of the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University, explained:

    The administration will want more than the direct combat power of the USS Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier strike group. That may explain why the warships and Marines were ordered to cut short a training exercise that was scheduled to run through Oct. 22 due to what the Pentagon called “emerging events.”

    USS Bataan, at 40,000 tons and over 800 feet in length, is a smaller version of a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier. With conventional propulsion, she has a powerful airwing that typically includes six F-35 strike fighters (with vertical takeoff capability), alongside a dozen of the assault support tiltrotor MV-22 Ospreys to get Marines rapidly ashore in a crisis….

    In addition to the attack aircraft on the ships, the real offensive punch of the force is the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit [MEU] with more than 2,000 Marines. The MEU is configured for special operations, including a significant element of the vaunted Marine special operators, whose training resembles that of the Navy SEALs or the Army Green Berets.

    Overall, the MEU has over 2,000 combat-trained Marines organized into an infantry battalion, an airwing to transport them, and embedded logistics support – everything from water purification systems to big tactical trucks and fast Humvees.

More: https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/02/dod-extends-deployment-of-marines-near-gaza/

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #633 on: February 16, 2024, 09:18:55 am »
KAMALA in Munich: "There cannot be, in my opinion, peace and security for that region — for the people of Israel or the Palestinians and the people of Gaza — without a two-state solution"

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #634 on: February 16, 2024, 10:01:21 am »
Munich, how appropriate.

Other than in Trump's Presidency, Foggy Bottom and US Presidents following their mislead have been pushing the "Two State Solution" fantasy for 4 or 5 decades. It hasn't and won't work, because the Arab Palis want a single state - theirs - and millions of dead Jews.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #635 on: February 16, 2024, 10:23:57 am »
Munich, how appropriate.

Other than in Trump's Presidency, Foggy Bottom and US Presidents following their mislead have been pushing the "Two State Solution" fantasy for 4 or 5 decades. It hasn't and won't work, because the Arab Palis want a single state - theirs - and millions of dead Jews.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #636 on: February 16, 2024, 12:19:24 pm »
Munich, how appropriate.

Other than in Trump's Presidency, Foggy Bottom and US Presidents following their mislead have been pushing the "Two State Solution" fantasy for 4 or 5 decades. It hasn't and won't work, because the Arab Palis want a single state - theirs - and millions of dead Jews.

A very accurate assessment.  Biden is trying to decide how Israel operates.  Israel has his number and has repeatedly told their enemy Shortbus Joe to bleep off.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #637 on: February 16, 2024, 12:38:06 pm »
The Israelis will do what they need to do.

Those tunnels took years and millions of dollars to build.  Rockets weren't free, either.  The financial and logistic networks that supply the Gazans need to be deconstructed.

There cannot be a two state solution when both sides are dedicated to completely driving the other side out of Palestine.

At a SuperBowl party dinner, my wife's aunt, who converted to Judaism, was about to start a tear-fest for Gazans until I said "there was a cease fire on October 6th" and "the Gazans messed with the bull, and now they are getting the horns."  Converstation over.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #638 on: February 16, 2024, 02:18:53 pm »
The Biden Administration wants to create a Palestinian state, but REFUSES to say who would run it or whether they would be considered our ally.

Here's the obvious truth: Hamas is the popularly elected government, and as a result, a Palestinian state would be run by terrorists.

https://twitter.com/RepBrianMast/status/1758140401771307349
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #639 on: February 16, 2024, 03:15:50 pm »

Saudi Arabia, Egypt Threaten Israel With Punitive Measures as IDF Clamps Down on Hamas Terrorist Leadership Hiding in Rafah

Legal Insurrection by Vijeta Uniyal Monday, February 12, 2024

Cairo threatens to suspend the 1979 Egypt–Israel peace treaty signed in Camp David.


Saudi Arabia, Egypt Threaten Israel With Punitive Measures as IDF Clamps Down on Hamas Terrorist Leadership Hiding in Rafah


Legal Insurrection by Vijeta Uniyal Monday, February 12, 2024


Cairo threatens to suspend the 1979 Egypt–Israel peace treaty signed in Camp David.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3lsJmwNO40
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #640 on: February 17, 2024, 09:35:57 pm »
Israel-Gaza war: Latest ceasefire talks not very promising - Qatar

Talks to agree a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas in Gaza were "not very promising" in recent days, mediator Qatar has said.

Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani said he remained optimistic, but added "time is not in our favour".

It comes as Israel's prime minister said he would press ahead with plans for a Rafah ground invasion, despite growing international pressure.

Hamas has blamed Israel for a lack of progress in achieving a ceasefire deal.

Talks have been taking place in Cairo as senior officials from the US, Israel, Egypt and Qatar meet to try to broker a pause in fighting.

"The pattern in the last few days [is] not really very promising but, as I always repeat, we will always remain optimistic and will always remain pushing," said Sheik Mohammed, speaking at a meeting of world leaders at the Munich Security Conference.

"I believe in this agreement we are talking at a bigger scale and we still see some difficulties on the humanitarian part of these negotiations," he added.

But he said a truce should not be dependent on a deal to release the hostages held by Hamas.

"This is the dilemma that we've been in and unfortunately that's been misused by a lot of countries - that in order to get a ceasefire, it's conditional to have the hostage deal," he said.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he sent negotiators following a request from US President Joe Biden, but added they did not return for further discussions because Hamas's demands were "delusional"................

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68326788

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #641 on: February 17, 2024, 09:44:32 pm »
Israel-Gaza war: Latest ceasefire talks not very promising - Qatar

Talks to agree a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas in Gaza were "not very promising" in recent days, mediator Qatar has said.

Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani said he remained optimistic, but added "time is not in our favour".

It comes as Israel's prime minister said he would press ahead with plans for a Rafah ground invasion, despite growing international pressure.

Hamas has blamed Israel for a lack of progress in achieving a ceasefire deal.

Talks have been taking place in Cairo as senior officials from the US, Israel, Egypt and Qatar meet to try to broker a pause in fighting.

"The pattern in the last few days [is] not really very promising but, as I always repeat, we will always remain optimistic and will always remain pushing," said Sheik Mohammed, speaking at a meeting of world leaders at the Munich Security Conference.

"I believe in this agreement we are talking at a bigger scale and we still see some difficulties on the humanitarian part of these negotiations," he added.

But he said a truce should not be dependent on a deal to release the hostages held by Hamas.

"This is the dilemma that we've been in and unfortunately that's been misused by a lot of countries - that in order to get a ceasefire, it's conditional to have the hostage deal," he said.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he sent negotiators following a request from US President Joe Biden, but added they did not return for further discussions because Hamas's demands were "delusional"................

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68326788
"I believe in this agreement we are talking at a bigger scale and we still see some difficulties on the humanitarian part of these negotiations," he added.

But he said a truce should not be dependent on a deal to release the hostages held by Hamas.
What a duplicitous piece of $h!t. Trading for pali lives is ok, but not for Israelis...eff you! Good show Bibi!
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« Reply #642 on: February 18, 2024, 05:01:16 am »
The disgrace of the Biden Idiocracy knows no bounds.  When this POS is finished, I would be surprised if we have any friends left in the world.

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« Reply #643 on: February 18, 2024, 09:42:33 am »
Netanyahu Defies Biden with Unanimous Vote Against Imposed Palestinian State

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu defied U.S. President Joe Biden on Sunday by submitting a version of Biden’s peace plan to his government, including a Palestinian state imposed from outside, to a vote — and having it rejected unanimously.

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« Reply #644 on: February 18, 2024, 10:16:26 am »
Netanyahu Defies Biden with Unanimous Vote Against Imposed Palestinian State

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu defied U.S. President Joe Biden on Sunday by submitting a version of Biden’s peace plan to his government, including a Palestinian state imposed from outside, to a vote — and having it rejected unanimously.

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The Prime Minister’s Office released the following statement:

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The Israeli Government has unanimously approved a declaratory decision regarding Israel’s opposition to international diktats.

The text of the final statement:

1. Israel utterly rejects international diktats regarding a permanent settlement with the Palestinians. A settlement, if it is to be reached, will come about solely through direct negotiations between the parties, without preconditions.

2. Israel will continue to oppose unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state. Such recognition in the wake of the October 7th massacre would be a massive and unprecedented reward to terrorism and would prevent any future peace settlement.

Israel obstinately refuses to obey LIEden and the antisemites of his maladministration. Or at least that's how LIEden views Israel's actions.
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« Reply #645 on: February 18, 2024, 07:29:53 pm »
From the article:


Israel obstinately refuses to obey LIEden and the antisemites of his maladministration. Or at least that's how LIEden views Israel's actions.

So what's Biden gonna do?  Give money to Hamas and their Iranian backers?  Oh wait, he already is.
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« Reply #646 on: February 19, 2024, 09:51:04 am »
Israel Issues Ultimatum to Hamas: Release Hostages or Suffer the Consequences
By Jeff Charles | 10:03 PM on February 18, 2024

In a bold declaration that could have a significant impact on the war in Gaza, Israel has issued a stern ultimatum to Hamas: Release the hostages or spend Ramadan dodging Israeli rockets. This development comes as the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) are working to rescue hostages taken during Hamas’ October 7 surprise attack on Israel.
The ultimatum was issued by Benny Gantz, a member of Israel’s war cabinet on Sunday.

    “The world must know, and Hamas leaders must know — if by Ramadan our hostages are not home, the fighting will continue everywhere, to include the Rafah area,” Gantz said.

    The holy Muslim month of Ramadan begins this year on March 10.

    “We will do so in a coordinated manner, facilitating the evacuation of civilians in dialogue with our American and Egyptian partners to minimize civilian casualties,” the former IDF chief of staff and defense minister told the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, as they convened in Jerusalem.

    “To those saying the price [of an offensive] is too high, I say this very clearly: Hamas has a choice — they can surrender, release the hostages, and the citizens of Gaza will be able to celebrate the holy holiday of Ramadan,” he said.

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« Reply #647 on: February 19, 2024, 10:36:09 am »
Israel has issued a stern ultimatum to Hamas: Release the hostages or spend Ramadan dodging Israeli rockets.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #648 on: February 19, 2024, 12:47:15 pm »
 IDF finds video of Hamas hostages Kfir Bibas, 1, mom and brother alive in early days of war
By Social Links for Yaron Steinbuch
Published Feb. 19, 2024, 12:04 p.m. ET


Israel has found video of Shiri Bibas and her two children — including the youngest hostage being held by Hamas – from the early days of the war in what is the first sign of proof that the trio even survived Oct. 7.

The Israel Defense Forces has shown the footage of Shiri, 1-year-old Kfir and 4-year-old Ariel to their family, who were told the video was found in a tunnel or hiding spot, the Jerusalem Post reported.

A family rep said the video shows the captives “arriving in Gaza alive. Hamas is the one solely responsible for the safety of Shiri, Ariel and Kfir,” according to the Times of Israel.



Horrifying video showed Hamas gunmen kidnapping Israeli mom Shiri Bibas and her two young sons

Hamas has claimed that the 32-year-old woman and her kids were killed during an Israeli strike without offering proof, and the assertions were never verified by Israeli authorities.

The family patriarch, Yarden, also was taken hostage but was separated from his wife and children.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #649 on: February 19, 2024, 01:26:43 pm »
I can't even let my mind go there.

Me neither.
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