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« Reply #500 on: January 21, 2024, 09:07:20 pm »
As well he should.  He never trusted Biden, hasn't for many years, if at all.  I don't think Bebe trusts much of anyone.

Agreed.

My insistence is what has prevented – over the years – the establishment of a Palestinian state that would have constituted an existential danger to Israel. As long as I am Prime Minister, I will continue to strongly insist on this. If someone has a different position, they should show leadership and candidly state their position to the citizens of Israel.”

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« Reply #501 on: January 22, 2024, 09:34:33 am »
Israel-Gaza live updates: Hostage families storm Israeli parliament in protest

"You will not sit here while our children die," some relatives yelled.
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Last Updated: January 22, 2024, 6:08 AM

Relatives of Israeli hostages being held by militants in the Gaza Strip stormed Israel's parliament, the Knesset, in Jerusalem on Monday in protest of the government's failure to bring their loved ones home.

"You will not sit here while our children die," some of the family members yelled while disrupting a finance committee hearing. "What about ransoming captives?"

-ABC News' Jordana Miller, Dana Savir and Morgan Winsor

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« Reply #502 on: January 22, 2024, 10:54:06 am »
Israel-Gaza war
Hamas official says ‘no chance’ hostages will return to Israel after Netanyahu rejects deal

The prime minister said he rejected the terms of a deal which included Israel’s complete withdrawal from Gaza

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Sun 21 Jan 2024 21.04 EST
Last modified on Mon 22 Jan 2024 08.34 EST

The prospect of a deal to release the remaining hostages held by Hamas appeared to recede on Sunday after a Hamas official said Benjamin Netanyahu’s rejection of their conditions meant there was “no chance” of their return.

Netanyahu had earlier dismissed the militant group’s conditions to end the war, which he said included leaving Hamas in power and Israel’s complete withdrawal from the territory.

A Hamas official, Sami Abu Zuhri, told Reuters the Israeli prime minister’s refusal to end the military offensive in Gaza “means there is no chance for the return of the [Israeli] captives”, which are estimated to be 130 in number.

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« Reply #503 on: January 22, 2024, 11:18:33 am »
Wow: EU Passes Gaza Ceasefire Resolution, and it's Surprisingly Reasonable

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 |  January 22, 2024 10:05 AM


In light of the craven, disgraceful conduct of much of the vaunted 'international community' in the aftermath of Hamas' massacre on October 7th, one might be forgiven for glancing at a headline about a formal 'ceasefire' demand from the European Union and automatically assuming it probably amounts to another anti-Israel, effectively pro-Hamas declaration from a major global institution.  Refreshingly, that assumption would be incorrect in this case, even if it's understandable.  In a vote late last week, the European Parliament overwhelmingly passed a resolution calling for a ceasefire in the Gaza conflict -- but not without significant conditions being met first.  It was contingent on two critical factors:

In a resolution that showed significant support for Israel, the European Parliament calls for a permanent ceasefire after all hostages are “immediately and unconditionally released” and “the terrorist organization Hamas is dismantled.” The resolution was adopted by 312 votes in favor, 131 against and 72 abstentions. At the same time, the MEPs denounce “the disproportionate Israeli military response, which has caused a civilian death toll on an unprecedented scale.”  They also call for full humanitarian access throughout the Gaza Strip, and for a “European initiative to put the two-state solution back on track.” They also back the 2002 Arab Peace Initiative. The MEPs say that the “occupation of the Palestinian territories” must end, while calling for terrorists to be held to account.

Some of the other items in this resolution, described above, range from unrealistic to objectionable.  European armchair quarterbacks have no business telling Israel what would constitute a "proportional" response to 1,200 civilians being brutally murdered.  Indeed, in order to eradicate Hamas, a light touch simply was not possible.  As for "occupation," Gaza hasn't been occupied since Israel fully returned it to the Palestinians in 2005, going so far as forcibly removing Israeli citizens from their homes in the territory.  Israel was rewarded for this gesture with years of endless terrorist attacks from Hamas, which took over Gaza shortly thereafter.  Finally, a two-state solution is an admirable goal, but it's totally untenable under the current circumstances.  Israel has offered Palestinian leaders numerous, generous peace deals that would have resulted in Palestinian statehood.  Every offer has been rejected.  Israel does not have a viable peace parter with which to negotiate right now.  All the Palestinians have to do is lay down their arms and acknowledge Israel's right to co-exist.  They refuse to do either. 

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #504 on: January 22, 2024, 11:18:40 am »
Israel should presume that the hostages are already lost, and rain fire and brimstone down upon Gaza.  Once that flank is more secure, they can go after Hezbollah and Iran with full gusto.
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« Reply #505 on: January 22, 2024, 11:41:33 am »
Israel should presume that the hostages are already lost, and rain fire and brimstone down upon Gaza.  Once that flank is more secure, they can go after Hezbollah and Iran with full gusto.
I truly understand these families anguish over their loved ones but as you say they are probably already dead and the leadership needs to think about the safety of all the people of Israel, not just the hostages. I doubt I could be that rational though if it were my loved ones held by the scum.

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« Reply #506 on: January 22, 2024, 12:17:46 pm »
All Muslims/Arabs must leave Gaza Strip and West Bank.  It's the only sane way to stop the insanity.
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« Reply #507 on: January 22, 2024, 02:58:16 pm »
Muslim British medical doctor defends what Hamas did on Oct. 7:

https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1749091209572741615
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« Reply #508 on: January 22, 2024, 03:07:26 pm »
I don't remember the "resisters" at Concord's Old North Bridge murdering British babies on April 19, 1775.

A 2-state solution in Palestine is a lost cause.

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« Reply #509 on: January 22, 2024, 04:40:56 pm »
 Israel proposes 2-month truce in exchange for freeing all the hostages: report
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Published Jan. 22, 2024, 3:52 p.m. ET

Israeli leaders have proposed a cease-fire of up to two months in exchange for the release of all the hostages in Gaza, officials said Monday.

After heated meetings over the Israel-Hamas conflict and hostage situation, the Jewish country’s war cabinet approved a new plan coordinated with Qatari and Egyptian negotiators that could see the more than 130 hostages held by Hamas released, two Israeli officials close to the talks told Axios.

The hostage deal would see all the women and men who are over 60 years old and who are in critical condition or have severe health problems released first.

The next phase would free the hostages who are not affiliated with the Israel Defense Forces. After that, Hamas would release Israeli soldiers, as well as the bodies of hostages who died in captivity, the officials said.

In exchange for freeing the hostages, Israeli officials would agree to release Palestinian prisoners in its jails, with separate negotiations scheduled on who would be allowed to walk free.

In previous deals brokered by Qatar, Israel agreed to free three prisoners for every hostage released.   

But major hurdles remain to seal the deal.

The proposed plan emphasizes that the cease-fire would be only temporary, with the IDF set to be deployed away from the Gaza Strip’s largest cities so as to allow Palestinians to return to their homes.

Once the exchange is complete, the war will resume, the Israeli officials said.

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« Reply #510 on: January 23, 2024, 10:04:47 am »
Twenty-one Israeli Reservists Killed; Highest Single-Day Total Since Start of Invasion

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said early Tuesday local time that ten soldiers had been killed in the central Gaza Strip when Hamas terrorists fired rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) at soldiers in buildings that were being prepared for demolition.

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« Reply #511 on: January 23, 2024, 10:40:55 am »
‘No Chance’ Hostages Will Be Freed, Hamas Says


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January 22, 2024

A senior Hamas official said Sunday that there is "no chance" the terror group will free the remaining hostages it took during its Oct. 7 terror attacks.

As Israeli planes resumed bombing Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip, senior Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's refusal to end the military offensive in Gaza "means there is no chance for the return of the [Israeli] captives."

His comment came after Netanyahu rejected the group's terms for the release of hostages and an end to the war, which included Israel's withdrawal from Gaza and leaving the group in power in the enclave.

"In exchange for the release of our hostages, Hamas demands the end of the war, the withdrawal of our forces from Gaza, the release of all the murderers and rapists," Netanyahu said in a statement. "And leaving Hamas intact."

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« Reply #512 on: January 23, 2024, 11:45:17 am »
Once again, Hamas saves Israel from itself, and Sloe Joe Biteme.
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« Reply #513 on: January 23, 2024, 11:47:23 am »
Biden Threatens Netanyahu's Drive to Destroy Hamas
by Con Coughlin
January 22, 2024 at 5:00 am

 
The Israeli premier has also reiterated his long-standing opposition to the creation of a Palestinian state, which he insists would become a launching pad for attacks on Israel.

Israel's efforts to achieve its goal of destroying Hamas, though, are at serious risk of being undermined by the Biden administration's growing hostility towards Netanyahu's government.

There are credible indications, moreover, that the Biden administration's hostility towards Netanyahu has led it to work with senior figures within Israel's security establishment, which is known to have a difficult relationship with the Israeli premier, to remove his government from power.

[T]he Palestinian leadership has always been just as deeply and outspokenly committed to the destruction of Israel as Hamas is.

Instead of trying to overthrow the Netanyahu government, the Biden administration would be better advised to grasp the vital strategic consideration that defeating Hamas is as much in the interests of the US as it is for Israel.

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« Reply #514 on: January 23, 2024, 12:46:00 pm »
Netanyahu needs to go, but, the drive to eradicate Hamas, and Iran's other proxies, needs to continue.

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If only Boston has used Hamas, instead of Bechtel, for the Big Dig, we wouldn't have a $20 Billion leaky tunnel that occasionally kills people.

Gaza may not have food, medicine, hospitals, schools, or a future, but they have great tunnels and lots of rockets.
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« Reply #515 on: January 23, 2024, 01:17:45 pm »
Freed Hostages: Hamas is Dressing Israeli Women as Dolls and Abusing Them

Joel B. Pollak 23 Jan 2024

Freed Israeli hostages told the Israeli parliament, or Knesset, this week about the sexual abuse committed by Hamas terrorists against both male and female hostages in Gaza, according to Israeli government spokesman Eylon Levy in a briefing on Tuesday.

Levy quoted former hostage Chen Goldstein-Almog, 48, who told the Knesset that some female hostages had stopped having their periods in captivity — which, she said, she hoped was a physical defense against becoming pregnant from rape by their captors.

Others reportedly had added that Hamas terrorists were also dressing female hostages as dolls in order to abuse them in sadistic ways. And they said that male hostages were also being sexually abused and raped.

The Times of Israel reported:

    “I saw it with my own eyes,” said former hostage Aviva Siegel, who was abducted from Kibbutrz Kfar Aza with her husband Keith on October 7 and released during a ceasefire in late November.

    “I felt as if the girls in captivity were my daughters. The terrorists bring inappropriate clothes, clothes for dolls and turn the girls into their dolls. Dolls on a string with which you can do whatever you want, whenever you want,” she told a meeting of the newly established Knesset caucus on victims of sexual and gender violence in the war against Hamas.

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    Some of the women who remain in Gaza have stopped getting their periods, Chen Goldstein Almog, who was released alongside three of her four children during the ceasefire, said during Tuesday’s hearing.

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Others reportedly had added that Hamas terrorists were also dressing female hostages as dolls in order to abuse them in sadistic ways. And they said that male hostages were also being sexually abused and raped.
This is why the entirely of Gaza should be carpet bombed. No survivors.
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 44 House Democrats express support for 2-state solution after Gaza war
by Elizabeth Crisp - 01/24/24 12:54 PM ET

Nearly four dozen House Democrats have signed onto a letter calling for a two-state solution to resolve the long-standing conflict between Israelis and Palestinians as war rages in Gaza.

The letter, led by Reps. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-Ill.) and Jim Himes (D-Conn.), described the two-state proposal that would designate Israel and Palestine as separate entities as “the only viable path for a sustainable peace between the Israeli and Palestinian people.”

The lawmakers urged President Biden in the letter to provide more details about his administration’s “strategy to bring peace to a decades-long conflict.”

“We will continue to stand firm in our support for both the Israeli and Palestinian people’s right to exist with dignity, peace and security,” they wrote. “The Israeli and Palestinian people deserve and require nothing less after decades of violence.”

Though Biden supports a two-state solution, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has rejected calls to open a path for a Palestinian state.

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« Reply #518 on: January 24, 2024, 03:55:34 pm »
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Though Biden supports a two-state solution, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has rejected calls to open a path for a Palestinian state.

In real life it is the Arab Palis who, for decades have rejected the two-state solution delusion. The Hill is, unsurprisingly, flacking for LIEden and blood-libeling Israel.
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 Israeli hostages impregnated by Hamas rapists will decide whether to keep babies upon release
By Social Links for Snejana Farberov
Published Jan. 24, 2024, 3:54 p.m. ET

Any Israeli hostages who have gotten pregnant from being raped by their Hamas captors in Gaza will have to decide whether to keep their baby or terminate the pregnancy upon their release, according to a new report.

Officials with Israel’s Ministries of Welfare and Health are drawing up detailed plans to deal with the possibility of unwanted pregnancies in women who were kidnapped by terrorists after the deadly Oct. 7 attacks, reported the local news outlet Walla!.

In Israel, a pregnancy termination committee typically determines whether to grant an abortion request — but officials are considering bypassing that step to reduce the red tape in the cases of any pregnant former captives.

More than 130 Israelis still remain in the clutches of Hamas after nearly four months, including young women and teenage girls, with preliminary information suggesting that some have been subjected to sexual abuse, both during the initial onslaught — as seen in gruesome videos circulating online — and in captivity.

Civilian authorities, assisted by the Israel Defense Forces, are creating a program that will coordinate all available resources for treating sexually abused hostages — including women at different stages of pregnancy — who will receive medical and psychological help.

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« Reply #520 on: January 24, 2024, 08:52:52 pm »
Israeli hostages impregnated by Hamas rapists will decide whether to keep babies upon release
By Social Links for Snejana Farberov
Published Jan. 24, 2024, 3:54 p.m. ET

Any Israeli hostages who have gotten pregnant from being raped by their Hamas captors in Gaza will have to decide whether to keep their baby or terminate the pregnancy upon their release, according to a new report.

Officials with Israel’s Ministries of Welfare and Health are drawing up detailed plans to deal with the possibility of unwanted pregnancies in women who were kidnapped by terrorists after the deadly Oct. 7 attacks, reported the local news outlet Walla!.

In Israel, a pregnancy termination committee typically determines whether to grant an abortion request — but officials are considering bypassing that step to reduce the red tape in the cases of any pregnant former captives.

More than 130 Israelis still remain in the clutches of Hamas after nearly four months, including young women and teenage girls, with preliminary information suggesting that some have been subjected to sexual abuse, both during the initial onslaught — as seen in gruesome videos circulating online — and in captivity.

Civilian authorities, assisted by the Israel Defense Forces, are creating a program that will coordinate all available resources for treating sexually abused hostages — including women at different stages of pregnancy — who will receive medical and psychological help.

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Medical and psychological help -- being repeatedly raped and abused and impregnated -- how absolutely horrific.  The child would be 1/2 Hamas/Pali.  These women would be dealing with the aftermath forever; both psychologically and physically.

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« Reply #521 on: January 24, 2024, 11:06:21 pm »
Medical and psychological help -- being repeatedly raped and abused and impregnated -- how absolutely horrific.  The child would be 1/2 Hamas/Pali genetic monster.  These women would be dealing with the aftermath forever; both psychologically and physically.

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« Reply #522 on: January 25, 2024, 07:44:11 am »
A lonely voice of reason, Argentina 🇦🇷 is appalled that UN Security Council still won't condemn Hamas — "the root cause of the humanitarian crisis."

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« Reply #523 on: January 25, 2024, 09:02:32 am »
White House: Israel Has ‘to Be More Careful’ to Ensure Civilian Areas Hamas Hides in Aren’t ‘Scenes of Battle’

On Wednesday’s broadcast of “CNN News Central,” White House National Security Council Coordinator for Strategic Communications John Kirby stated that Hamas does hide in hospitals and residential areas and Israel has the right to go after Hamas wherever they hide, but Israel also has “a special burden to be mindful of civilian infrastructure, particularly, hospitals and residential complexes like that, where we don’t want to see them become scenes of battle. So, nobody wants to see fighting in a hospital. So, it does add an extra burden on the Israelis to be more careful, more deliberate.”

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« Reply #524 on: January 25, 2024, 04:08:06 pm »
This is true. If you could go back in time. If you would have warned Israel of what was coming. NO Shit ... they would have arrested you. You would be sitting in jail.

Israel was so secure in their own minds in their own 'pure intentions' that they considered anyone warning them of the Arab's intentions as a lunatic.

They said, "Nobody would ever do that to us." That is how they thought. To warn them was to shake their mental mindset.


And you then become the criminal. That is how blind and naïve (stupid) these people had become.
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« Reply #525 on: January 25, 2024, 06:57:34 pm »
White House: Israel Has ‘to Be More Careful’ to Ensure Civilian Areas Hamas Hides in Aren’t ‘Scenes of Battle’
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More LIEden Blood Libel.
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Biden Tells Netanyahu to Throw in the Towel, and Its Shockingly Revealing
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President Joe Biden recently met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and the exchange was incredibly revealing.

While it didn't reveal anything about Israel's resolve to take out Hamas, the terrorist government of Gaza that massacred over a thousand people on October 7th, breaking a long-running ceasefire, what it did do is show where Biden's motivations truly lie. In short, it's not pretty or reassuring.

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    President Biden last week pressed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to scale down the Israeli military operation in Gaza, stressing he is not in it for a year of war, two U.S. officials told Axios.

    Why it matters: Biden's comments during the two leaders' call last Friday reflect the growing U.S. concern about the continuation of the war and the president's desire to see it end long before the November elections.

    A Biden adviser told Axios the White House is very concerned about losing young voters, many of whom are opposed to the president's policy on the Gaza war.

That is a shocking admittance of what is actually driving American foreign policy under the current administration. It's not a desire to do what is right in support of allies. It's not even a desire to execute a long-term security strategy that benefits the United States, of which the elimination of Hamas as a destablizing force in the Middle East clearly would. Rather, every position that is being taken is being taken for political reasons.

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 UNRWA fires 12 staffers who allegedly took part in October 7 Hamas terrorist attacks on Israel, US cuts funding
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The United Nations organization for Palestinian refugees has fired a dozen staffers over claims they took part in the Oct. 7 Hamas terror attacks on Israel, the agency said Friday.

Israeli authorities handed over the information alleging that 12 United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) employees were involved in the murderous rampage in southern Israel, the agency’s Commissioner-General, Philippe Lazzarini, said.

“To protect the agency’s ability to deliver humanitarian assistance, I have taken the decision to immediately terminate the contracts of these staff members and launch an investigation in order to establish the truth without delay.”

The US immediately cut funding to the agency in the wake of the allegations surfacing, the State Department said – marking a significant reversal from the Biden administration’s strong support for UNRWA.

“The United States is extremely troubled by the allegations that 12 UNRWA employees may have been involved in the October 7 Hamas terrorist attack on Israel,” the department’s statement said.

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UNRWA fires 12 staffers who allegedly took part in October 7 Hamas terrorist attacks on Israel, US cuts funding
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Israeli authorities handed over the information alleging that 12 United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) employees were involved in the murderous rampage in southern Israel, the agency’s Commissioner-General, Philippe Lazzarini, said.
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The UN fired them for getting caught! Not for what they did. If the UN fired UNRWA employees for anti-Semitic crap they do, UNRA wouldn't even have janitors to do the final trash-can-emptying before closing the vacated facilities.
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Well, color me shocked.
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UNRWA fires 12 staffers who allegedly took part in October 7 Hamas terrorist attacks on Israel, US cuts funding
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The US immediately cut funding to the agency in the wake of the allegations surfacing, the State Department said – marking a significant reversal from the Biden administration’s strong support for UNRWA.
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Gee, maybe Trump was right when he cut UNRWA funding back in 2018, and LIEden should not have reversed Trump's action! https://www.brookings.edu/articles/in-one-move-trump-eliminated-us-funding-for-unrwa-and-the-us-role-as-mideast-peacemaker/
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« Reply #531 on: January 26, 2024, 03:44:36 pm »
Gee, maybe Trump was right when he cut UNRWA funding back in 2018, and LIEden should not have reversed Trump's action! https://www.brookings.edu/articles/in-one-move-trump-eliminated-us-funding-for-unrwa-and-the-us-role-as-mideast-peacemaker/

Cutting it to $0.00 sounds about right to me!
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« Reply #533 on: January 26, 2024, 04:31:31 pm »
Hamas Releases Propaganda Video of 3 Female Israeli Hostages

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The Palestinian terror group Hamas released a new propaganda video on Friday showing three female Israeli hostages, each saying that their lives were in danger from the Israeli military — not from Hamas — and urging Israel’s leaders to stop the war.

Two Israeli soldiers — 19-year-old Karina Ariev and 19-year-old Daniella Gilboa — and 30-year-old civilian Doron Steinbrecher from Kibbutz Kfar Aza are shown in the video repeating similar messages, almost word-for-word, and sometimes in unison.

The three women claim, evidently under duress, that Israeli bombs and tank shells are endangering their lives, and that they must be brought home before it is too late. The video adds sound effects of bombing, and an image of the three women in an hourglass.

Hamas appears to have misread the Israeli public: though the video correctly refers to protests in the street in favor of a hostage deal, the scriptwriters also had the hostages accuse the Israeli military of murdering them — something no Israeli would likely say.

The hostage video was released as the International Court of Justice (ICJ) declined to call for a ceasefire, and as talks on a hostage deal — including the U.S. CIA, Qatar, and Egypt — stalled. Hamas wants a permanent ceasefire; Israel wants to destroy Hamas.

Some 20 women are among the 130 or so remaining hostages in Gaza. Hamas refused to release them, saying that even those who were not soldiers were once in the Israeli military. Hamas has also refused to allow Red Cross visits, in violation of international law, and broke a deal this week to prove that medicines sent from Israel via Qatar had actually been delivered to the hostages.

There are reports that the female hostages are being raped by Hamas terrorists and otherwise sexually assaulted and degraded.

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« Reply #534 on: January 26, 2024, 06:27:04 pm »
George Soros has given the UNRWA over $2 million since 2018.


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« Reply #535 on: January 26, 2024, 06:33:46 pm »
George Soros has given the UNRWA over $2 million since 2018.


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« Reply #536 on: January 26, 2024, 06:37:12 pm »
1.) So, the United Nations is complicit in the October 7th genocidal mass murders?
2.) Those hostages could already be dead and the videos could have be previously recorded while they were still alive.
3.) Hamas is hiding behind women because the Israeli's have Hamas' balls to the walls.

Israel could re-brand its Gaza action as "Urban Renewal".
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« Reply #537 on: January 26, 2024, 06:59:41 pm »
UNRWA fires 12 staffers who allegedly took part in October 7

Only 12?
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« Reply #538 on: January 26, 2024, 07:36:47 pm »
Only 12?

Yes, because so far Israel has "only" produced video evidence for those 12 UNRWA employees. IOW, UNRWA had no plausible deniability and was backed into a corner with proof the 12 were guilty. More probably committed atrocities, but the UN isn't interested enough to investigate.
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Biden Administration Weighs Slowing Israel Arms Sales to Push Netanyahu for Scaled-Back Gaza War: Report

The White House has reportedly directed the Pentagon to determine which of Israel's weapons requests could be used as leverage

Published 01/28/24 09:11 AM ET|Updated 23 min ago
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The Biden administration is considering slowing down or pausing weaponry sales to Israel in an attempt to pressure Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu into scaling back the assault on Hamas in Gaza, according to a report.

The White House has directed the Pentagon to determine which of Israel's weapons requests could be used as leverage, NBC News reported Sunday, citing four current or former U.S. officials familiar with the discussions.

The proposed tactic reportedly comes after President Biden and members of his administration have repeatedly ask Israel to scale back its assault and reduce civilian casualties in Gaza, only to see the requests go largely unheeded.

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US Sees Progress on Deal to Release Gaza Hostages, Bring Temporary Cease-Fire to Israel-Hamas War
While the proposal would not end the war, US officials are hopeful that it could lay the groundwork for a durable resolution
Published 01/28/24 06:35 AM ET|Updated 10 min ago
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WASHINGTON — U.S. negotiators are making progress on a potential agreement under which Israel would pause military operations against Hamas in Gaza for two months in exchange for the release of more than 100 hostages who were captured in the Oct. 7 attack on Israel, according to two senior administration officials.

The officials, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive negotiations, said Saturday that emerging terms of the yet-to-be sealed deal would play out over two phases.

In the first phase, fighting would stop to allow for the remaining women, elderly and wounded hostages to be released by Hamas.

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Biden loves him some Hamas terrorists.  He is pushing this deal to save the US Muzzie vote in Nov.
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And Hamas will keep lobbing missiles, I assume.
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Biden loves him some Hamas terrorists.  He is pushing this deal to save the US Muzzie vote in Nov.
Why should he different than any other democrat president since LBJ? Carter, Clinton, Obama, Biden(maybe should be Obama again) all muzzie terrorist appeasers  9999hair out0000
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Biden Administration Weighs Slowing Israel Arms Sales to Push Netanyahu for Scaled-Back Gaza War: Report

The White House has reportedly directed the Pentagon to determine which of Israel's weapons requests could be used as leverage

Published 01/28/24 09:11 AM ET|Updated 23 min ago
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The Biden administration is considering slowing down or pausing weaponry sales to Israel in an attempt to pressure Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu into scaling back the assault on Hamas in Gaza, according to a report.

The White House has directed the Pentagon to determine which of Israel's weapons requests could be used as leverage, NBC News reported Sunday, citing four current or former U.S. officials familiar with the discussions.

The proposed tactic reportedly comes after President Biden and members of his administration have repeatedly ask Israel to scale back its assault and reduce civilian casualties in Gaza, only to see the requests go largely unheeded.

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The more precise the weapons, the fewer 'civilians' will be collateral damage in relation to the number of Hamas operatives. While that ratio is no doubt blurred by the number of Hamas operatives dressed as or presented as civilian deaths, that precision is a limiting factor.

To deny the Israelis the most surgical means of elimination an existential threat only means the threat will be eliminated by less precise methods: the threat still must be eliminated.

For all ts posturing, limiting more precise munitions supplies to the Israelis will only force them to use less precise methods, which would not achieve the stated desired result of reducing 'civilian' casualties, but the exact opposite of the stated goal.

So long as they are in the crosshairs, Hamas will not release all the living hostages they have. Giving Hamas time to regroup and rearm is folly. Get the job done.
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The more precise the weapons, the fewer 'civilians' will be collateral damage in relation to the number of Hamas operatives. While that ratio is no doubt blurred by the number of Hamas operatives dressed as or presented as civilian deaths, that precision is a limiting factor.

To deny the Israelis the most surgical means of elimination an existential threat only means the threat will be eliminated by less precise methods: the threat still must be eliminated.

For all ts posturing, limiting more precise munitions supplies to the Israelis will only force them to use less precise methods, which would not achieve the stated desired result of reducing 'civilian' casualties, but the exact opposite of the stated goal.

So long as they are in the crosshairs, Hamas will not release all the living hostages they have. Giving Hamas time to regroup and rearm is folly. Get the job done.
"...and reduce civilian casualties in Gaza" "Facts not in evidence."  No evidence produced to support this demented claim. So kindly EFF off! Israel needs to eradicate those vermin once and for all. So give them all the weaponry required to do so.
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Hamas Rejects Hostage Deal: No Agreement Without End to War

The Palestinian Hamas terrorist organization reportedly rejected an Israeli offer Monday for a deal to free the remaining 132 or so hostages still in captivity in Gaza because the proposed agreement did not include a permanent end to Israel’s counteroffensive.

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« Reply #547 on: January 30, 2024, 09:55:17 am »
Israel needs to end Hamas, not the war.  That includes the logistics and financial networks that supply Hamas with weapons and tunnel-building equipment.

In the meantime, the Israelis can burn tires, garbage, and debris in the entrances of these tunnels to smoke out more underground Hamas fighters.
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Undercover Israeli forces kill 3 Palestinian terrorists in West Bank hospital raid
IDF says it neutralized a Hamas terrorist cell hiding inside the 'Ibn Sina' Hospital in Jenin
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