Ron DeSantis' Throws Down the Gauntlet, Challenges Trump to One-on-One Debate: 'I'm Ready for It'

[LMAO]

Hadn't thought of it that way before, but that's definitely a part of it.

MAGAs fancy themselves as revolutionaries bringing about a new American Utopia. They are in a “hot  battle.”  Others with a different point of view must get out of the way of the glorious revolution. The problem they have is their General is more often than not, AWOL

They see themselves similar to those that fought at Bunker Hill or Lexington. But they’re  more similar to the Do Lung Bridge scene in the movie “Apocalypse Now.”

If you don’t get the reference, go watch the movie

[Right_in_Virginia]

The very real battle is a populist (at best) trying to prevent a true conservative from taking office, by insults, accusations and lies.

He needs to move out of the way and let someone who is conservative, decent and has integrity take the oval office.  Trump knows DeSantis is more conservative, competent and accomplished and that is why he refuses to debate him; that is very telling.

The "true conservative"  you keep referring to is a figment of the Boomer imagination --- he or she has never existed, and still doesn't.  Hell,  even Ronald Reagan was a right leaning Populist.   

[DCPatriot]

MAGAs fancy themselves as revolutionaries bringing about a new American Utopia. They are in a “hot  battle.”  Others with a different point of view must get out of the way of the glorious revolution. The problem they have is their General is more often than not, AWOL

They see themselves similar to those that fought at Bunker Hill or Lexington. But they’re  more similar to the Do Lung Bridge scene in the movie “Apocalypse Now.”

If you don’t get the reference, go watch the movie

Regarding bold:

Nothing of the sort @LMAO !!

Respectfully, you don't even seem to recognize the immediate threat to the Republic/Constitution.

And to me, THAT is a shame and damned scary!!  And not necessarily in that order.

[Hoodat]

Hell,  even Ronald Reagan was a right leaning Populist.

Reagan a populist?  That's rich.  You don't know jack about Reagan.

[LMAO]

Regarding bold:

Nothing of the sort @LMAO !!

Respectfully, you don't even seem to recognize the immediate threat to the Republic/Constitution.

And to me, THAT is a shame and damned scary!!  And not necessarily in that order.

I always love that “you don’t understand the threat to the republic” line if you’re not willing to bail out their guy with your vote

On the contrary, we actually do. We just know that you don’t fix it with mean tweets and executive orders
 MAGAs think that’s how things get done


And that, my friend, is what’s a damn shame and scary

[LMAO]

People usually vote for a candidate because of an ideological alignment, or there’s several political positions that they agree with, and vote for the candidate

MAGAs believe that they are on a mission to save the country. How do you de-program such a brainwashing and delusion?  How are you going to force 355 some million people to accept your version of saving the country?

I’m actually fascinated reading the postings from MAGAs. From a purely clinical perspective, I find them quite interesting.

If one believes that they are on a mission to save the country, how far are you willing to go? If you think violence would be justified at some point, what’s the plan afterwards? What makes you think you would win a violent revolution? What makes you think that you would have popular support?

As we seen on January 6, Trump will abandon you before you can finish a blink if it meant saving his own ass.

The MAGA tactic is to claim that every single legal issue that Donald Trump is facing is all 100%, political, and that if you don’t vote for Donald Trump, that means that you support political lawfare.

They’re making the same ridiculous points in defending Donald Trump as the Democrats are in defending Joe Biden, and his spawn

[Right_in_Virginia]

I always love that “you don’t understand the threat to the republic” line if you’re not willing to bail out their guy with your vote

On the contrary, we actually do. We just know that you don’t fix it with mean tweets and executive order.  MAGAs think that’s how things get done.

IMO, relying on mean tweets and EOs simply proves you understand exactly nothing. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Reagan a populist?  That's rich.  You don't know jack about Reagan.

Apparently, I know a helluva lot more than you.

[LMAO]

IMO, relying on mean tweets and EOs simply proves you understand exactly nothing.

I asked you a couple questions yesterday and wanted to know if you had a chance to think about them and maybe answer them

In case you forgot, here they are

“But. I'm willing to give you a chance to prove my point wrong. How many of the legal fees has he helped pay for those that are in jail after being summoned by him to the Capitol?  Has he provided any financial assistance for those who are being charged, in let's say, the Georgia case????”

I look forward to your answer. Not that I really believe I’m gonna get one.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

MAGAs fancy themselves as revolutionaries bringing about a new American Utopia. They are in a “hot  battle.”  Others with a different point of view must get out of the way of the glorious revolution....They see themselves similar to those that fought at Bunker Hill or Lexington.

I think that's right.  They use the rhetoric of war, and think that "courage" is what matters in battle so that's enough to win.

Except it isn't an actual war.  It's politics, where the vote of a "cowardly" voter counts the exact same as the vote of a "courageous" voter.  So it is numbers that matter - emotions and "courage" don't.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I asked you a couple questions yesterday and wanted to know if you had a chance to think about them

Sorry, no.

[LMAO]

I think that's right.  They use the rhetoric of war, and think that "courage" is what matters in battle so that's enough to win.

Except it isn't an actual war.  It's politics, where the vote of a "cowardly" voter counts the exact same as the vote of a "courageous" voter.  So it is numbers that matter - emotions and "courage" don't.

It may not be a true cult, but close. I first saw this during Obama’s first presidential run. Many of his supporters were molding him into a vision that meshed with their personal viewpoints. I’m not saying that this applies to all who voted for Obama and it certainly doesn’t apply to everybody who is going to vote for Donald Trump.

But both men definitely had many followers that fit that description. Regardless of who one vote for for president, you’re not on a mission to save the nation. They think they are. And any vote for another candidate threatens that delusion. That’s why the “you know nothing” and “you don’t understand the threat” lines you see

MAGAs are actually more fun than Obama supporters. Except MAGAs are costing elections.

[LMAO]

Sorry, no.

Didn’t think so

[Hoodat]

Apparently, I know a helluva lot more than you.

Based on what?  You clearly don't know jack about Reagan if you think he was a populist.

[Hoodat]

I look forward to your answer. Not that I really believe I’m gonna get one.

You have a better chance of getting one from Marcel Marceau.

[LMAO]

So, let’s recap what we’ve learned this week since this thread has already left the original topic

We learned that leading in the polls in a presidential primary means you’re the incumbent president

Choosing candidates that one hopes will reign in the unsustainable spending and the power of the federal government makes you a 18th Century member of the British Parliament oppressing the colonists

And

We have to grow the size of the federal government until we are a free and independent nation and only then can we reduce its size

And MAGAs  say we are the ones who don’t understand the threats facing the nation

[corbe]

   Also @LMAO we learned @MOD7 is out of Rehab.

[LMAO]

   Also @LMAO we learned @MOD7 is out of Rehab.

Lol

Oh hell. It’s a lousy rainy weekend here, and I don’t work so nothing else to do

[roamer_1]

Apparently, I know a helluva lot more than you.

That is neither apparent nor true.

[corbe]

   Trumpers don't understand US History, just like their Leader.  Populist movements in America have always failed, going back to the 1900's.   
   Recent example is Perot getting BJ Clinton elected.

[LMAO]

   Trumpers don't understand US History

Or economics. Or civics.

They seem to not grasp the concept that if you place across the board tariffs on imports, not only do you risk a trade war but you harm American industries and consumers

Likewise, they don’t grasp the concept that printing mass amounts of currency in a short time devalues that currency and brings on inflation

They don’t seem to grasp that zero to negative interest rates harms savers

Nope. Trump must be supported because of his legal troubles. To hell with trivial things such as a strong dollar

[Hoodat]

Respectfully, you don't even seem to recognize the immediate threat to the Republic/Constitution.

And to me, THAT is a shame and damned scary!!  And not necessarily in that order.

The immediate as well as paramount threat to the Republic/Constitution is a runaway Federal Government, funded with massive deficits fueled by the printing of money by the Fed.  The fact that you lack the cognizance to understand this is a shame.

[Hoodat]

   Also @LMAO we learned @MOD7 is out of Rehab.

I'll give it a week.

[roamer_1]

The immediate as well as paramount threat to the Republic/Constitution is a runaway Federal Government, funded with massive deficits fueled by the printing of money by the Fed.  The fact that you lack the cognizance to understand this is a shame.

 

 

[MOD7]

FYI @corbe @Hoodat I was not in rehab of any kind. Briefers have been exceptionally respectful of each other, of late and didn't require my intervention. I added you two to my shit list though.