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Offline MeganC

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4200 on: August 20, 2024, 08:25:01 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 20, 2024, 06:50:51 pm
Whooooooaaaaa....  I like the sentiment, but zapping 7.8 mbd off the world oil markets might not be an outcome we want. 

These kind of events could trigger a world economic meltdown, especially if it causes oil to rocket up to $120-150/bbl

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4201 on: August 20, 2024, 10:56:51 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 20, 2024, 03:44:45 pm
I understand the infrastucture of this country's oil industry better than Russia, but ROSNEFT has to be feeling some nervousness.  Putin loses his hydrocarbon revenue stream?  Things are going to get really tough for the Putin's soldiers who basically might become stranded due to lack of resources.

My eyes aren't exactly "map-calibrated", but from my vantage point it looks like  5 of 9 of Russia's refineries (and association hardwared infrastructure) is within 500 miles of Ukraine.

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This is the region Hitler's southern thrust was targeting, to get the oil reserves and refineries here and in Romania.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4202 on: August 21, 2024, 12:52:49 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4203 on: August 21, 2024, 12:53:14 am »
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« Reply #4204 on: August 21, 2024, 12:58:18 am »
Half a Russian battalion is surrounded in Malaya Loknya.  Here's a German Marder lighting it up:


from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1ex9zo8/ua_drone_films_a_ukrainian_marder_ifv_of_the_95th/
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« Reply #4205 on: August 21, 2024, 01:01:43 am »
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« Reply #4206 on: August 21, 2024, 01:02:08 am »
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« Reply #4207 on: August 21, 2024, 01:04:29 am »
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« Reply #4208 on: August 21, 2024, 01:05:54 am »
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« Reply #4209 on: August 21, 2024, 01:07:47 am »
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« Reply #4210 on: August 21, 2024, 01:11:51 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4211 on: August 21, 2024, 01:17:31 am »
First documented loss of a Russian KamAZ Typhoon MRAP

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« Reply #4212 on: August 21, 2024, 01:19:43 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4213 on: August 21, 2024, 01:25:44 am »
Russian Soldier Defects to Ukraine After Sabotaging 'Storm Z' Battalion Headquarters

Ivan Khomenko  |  Aug 20, 2024  |  17:16

A Russian soldier has defected to Ukraine after successfully carrying out an operation codenamed “Ocheret,” which involved the sabotage of a “Storm Z” battalion headquarters. This operation was conducted with the involvement of the “I Want to Live” project and the Legion “Freedom of Russia.”

According to reports, a 24-year-old Russian FPV pilot with the callsign “Silver” made contact with the Legion “Freedom of Russia” in the winter of 2024. His decision to cooperate with Ukraine was driven by systemic crimes committed by the battalion’s command, including extrajudicial executions, beatings, and extortion.

As part of his cooperation with Ukrainian forces, “Silver” provided valuable intelligence on the location, strength, and intentions of enemy forces on a specific front. In May 2024, he executed a plan involving the throwing of grenades into the ventilation shaft of the battalion’s underground headquarters, where the battalion commander and other officers were sleeping. The explosion resulted in serious injuries to several officers.

Following the operation, “Silver” used a pre-planned escape route to flee and crossed into Ukrainian-controlled territory.  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russian-soldier-defects-to-ukraine-after-sabotaging-storm-z-battalion-headquarters-1843
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4214 on: August 21, 2024, 01:27:17 am »
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« Reply #4215 on: August 21, 2024, 01:36:36 am »
The "military" who demanded that the Kursk men take up arms turned out to be the owner of the funeral business

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The "military" who criticized the Kursk men for leaving the region after the start of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine turned out to be an entrepreneur from St. Petersburg, earning money on funeral services, the Agency found out.

The day before, propagandist Dmitry Steshin posted a video in which a certain "serviceman" addressed men leaving the Kursk region. I would like to appeal to the male population of Kursk: what the did you confuse in the region? Where are you going, dear? If, f**k, all our men turn on the back and leave the cities that will be hit, f**k, and so on, what will happen in general? What are you doing? Can't you take up arms? Well, then take shovels,, dig trenches for the guys, I don't know, deliver food,. Where are you going?" he said.

As it turned out, the "military" turned out to be a resident of St. Petersburg, Kirill Suvorov, the director of a company that makes monuments for tombstones and helps bury dead soldiers. Suvorov's company also offers services for the delivery of "cargo 200".  .  .

https://www.moscowtimes.eu/2024/08/20/potrebovavshii-otkurskih-muzhchin-vzyat-vruki-oruzhie-voennii-okazalsya-vladeltsem-pohoronnogo-biznesa-a139837
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4216 on: August 21, 2024, 01:43:00 am »
Russia Launches New Drone Weapons Against Kursk Offensive

David Hambling  |  Aug 20, 2024  |  06:10am EDT



Ukraine’s advance into Kursk succeeded with the help of an electronic warfare blitz that blinded Russia’s reconnaissance drones and knocked their FPVs out of the sky. Now Russia is striking back with new drones guided by fiber optics which are immune to radio jamming. This is the first time such weapons have been used in combat.*

It is another reminder of just how fast small drones are evolving. And a warning to the rest of the world, which relies heavily on jamming to protect itself against drone attacks by terrorists.  .  .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2024/08/20/russia-launches-new-drone-weapons-against-kursk-offensive/
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4217 on: August 21, 2024, 01:43:54 am »
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« Reply #4218 on: August 21, 2024, 01:47:56 am »
Russian Strike Hits Children’s Café in Ukraine, Injuring Three Children

Ivan Khomenko  |  Aug 20, 2024  |  20:03

Malokaterynivka, Zaporizhzhia Oblast — A Russian military strike on a children’s café in Malokaterynivka has resulted in injuries to three children. One of the injured is reported to be in serious condition.

Ivan Fedorov, head of the Zaporizhzhia Regional Military Administration, reported the incident via his Telegram channel. According to the regional administration’s press service, the children’s café was directly hit, leading to the injuries of three children, with one in critical condition.



The air raid alert in the region lasted for ten minutes, from 15:47 to 15:57. The military had warned of a potential threat from ballistic weaponry.

This attack is part of a broader pattern of strikes. Earlier in the night and morning of August 20, Russian forces attempted to strike Kyiv region  .  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russian-strike-hits-childrens-cafe-in-ukraine-injuring-three-children-1849
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« Reply #4219 on: August 21, 2024, 01:51:18 am »
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« Reply #4220 on: August 21, 2024, 01:53:01 am »
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« Reply #4221 on: August 21, 2024, 01:53:25 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4222 on: August 21, 2024, 12:41:38 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 21, 2024, 01:27:17 am


Ukraine has blown the bridges on the river that runs Komarovka-Glushkovo-Alekseyevka. This traps Russian forces south of that river and blocks major reinforcement and supply to whatever forces are thus trapped. Russia built a couple of pontoon bridges, but these have limited capacity, and Ukraine knocked them out in a day or two.
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« Reply #4223 on: August 21, 2024, 03:08:03 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on August 21, 2024, 12:41:38 pm
Ukraine has blown the bridges on the river that runs Komarovka-Glushkovo-Alekseyevka. This traps Russian forces south of that river and blocks major reinforcement and supply to whatever forces are thus trapped. Russia built a couple of pontoon bridges, but these have limited capacity, and Ukraine knocked them out in a day or two.

Ukraine is allowing one of the pontoon bridges to remain open because it makes it easy to target vehicles waiting to cross.  Lesson learned from Antietam.  One of the earlier posts shows a group of vehicles smoking near that pontoon bridge.
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« Reply #4224 on: August 21, 2024, 04:04:35 pm »
Sun Tzu also says:

"Always give your enemy a way out. If you totally surround them, they will fight even more fiercely. With a way out, they will not."
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« Reply #4225 on: August 21, 2024, 08:37:25 pm »
DAY 16 - UKRAINE'S INVASION OF RUSSIA

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« Reply #4226 on: August 21, 2024, 08:39:22 pm »
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« Reply #4227 on: August 21, 2024, 08:41:22 pm »
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« Reply #4228 on: August 21, 2024, 08:42:59 pm »
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« Reply #4229 on: August 21, 2024, 08:44:50 pm »
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« Reply #4230 on: August 21, 2024, 08:49:38 pm »
Deception and Corruption: How Sudzha District Misled Kremlin During Ukraine's Kursk Offensive

An intercepted call by the head of the administration of the Goncharovka settlement in the Sudzha district reveals how the leadership of the Kursk region deceived its residents.

Kyiv Post | August 21, 2024, 11:20 am

The local administration in the Sudzha district deceived both the Russian leadership and local residents during the first days of Ukraine’s offensive into the Kursk region on, according to a Ukrainian Defense Forces phone interception.

In it Oleksandr Harkavenko, the head of the administration of the Goncharovka settlement said:

“We reported very good news to Moscow for two days. At that moment, we were losing so much territory.” The intercepted conversation was published by the Russian-Israeli entrepreneur Leonid Nevzlin on Aug. 18.

According to him, the leadership of the Kursk region deliberately deceived residents that the situation was under control, while leaving them to their own devices.

A few weeks before the start of the offensive in Goncharovka, Russian troops placed a 122mm Grad multi-barreled rocket launcher system (MLRS) in the middle of a residential area from where it opened fire on Ukraine.  .  .

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/37722
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« Reply #4231 on: August 21, 2024, 08:51:35 pm »
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« Reply #4232 on: August 21, 2024, 08:53:34 pm »
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« Reply #4234 on: August 21, 2024, 08:55:12 pm »
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« Reply #4235 on: August 21, 2024, 09:00:04 pm »
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« Reply #4236 on: August 21, 2024, 10:52:14 pm »
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« Reply #4237 on: August 21, 2024, 10:52:37 pm »
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« Reply #4238 on: August 21, 2024, 10:53:21 pm »
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« Reply #4239 on: August 21, 2024, 10:53:53 pm »
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« Reply #4240 on: August 21, 2024, 10:56:40 pm »
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« Reply #4241 on: August 21, 2024, 11:01:51 pm »
Russia Is Bombing Its Own Villages in Kursk Region, 27 Guided Bombs Used Today, Says General Staff

Amira Barkhush  |  Aug 21, 2024  |  18:26

Russian forces actively use aviation in Russia’s Kursk region. Since the beginning of the day, August 21, they have carried out 17 airstrikes on populated areas of the Russian Federation using 27 guided aerial bombs.

This was reported today, on August 21, by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

It is reported that Russia is also shelling Ukrainian border settlements with the help of artillery, in particular, Porozok and Pozhny, Sumy region.  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russia-is-bombing-its-own-villages-in-kursk-region-27-guided-bombs-used-today-says-general-staff-1864
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« Reply #4242 on: August 22, 2024, 09:59:37 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 21, 2024, 11:01:51 pm
Russia Is Bombing Its Own Villages in Kursk Region, 27 Guided Bombs Used Today, Says General Staff

Amira Barkhush  |  Aug 21, 2024  |  18:26

Russian forces actively use aviation in Russia’s Kursk region. Since the beginning of the day, August 21, they have carried out 17 airstrikes on populated areas of the Russian Federation using 27 guided aerial bombs.

This was reported today, on August 21, by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
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So, the Ukrainian invasion has led to Russia bombing its own people and infrastructure? How nice that Russian people are experiencing, for a few days, what Ukrainian people have been experiencing for 2 1/2 years.
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« Reply #4243 on: August 22, 2024, 10:47:06 am »
Some of these news reports have to be getting back to population in Moscow, one would think.  This is akin to Biden bombing Yuma. 
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« Reply #4244 on: August 22, 2024, 11:30:48 am »
Munitions used to bomb Russia are not being used to bomb Ukraine.
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« Reply #4245 on: August 22, 2024, 01:02:58 pm »
I'm hearing more chatter about Putin being deposed sometime soon. This invasion by Ukraine just might end the war!

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« Reply #4246 on: August 22, 2024, 01:58:19 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on August 22, 2024, 01:02:58 pm
I'm hearing more chatter about Putin being deposed sometime soon. This invasion by Ukraine just might end the war!

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Deposition by defenestration would be fitting, but I won't be holding my breath in anticipation.
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« Reply #4247 on: August 22, 2024, 02:20:32 pm »
I'm not holding my breath either but until the Russians kill Putin this stupid war will continue.
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« Reply #4248 on: August 22, 2024, 02:22:18 pm »
Another constriction of supplies to Crimea:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSDpS2VvYno
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« Reply #4249 on: August 22, 2024, 02:26:25 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on August 22, 2024, 02:22:18 pm
Another constriction of supplies to Crimea:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSDpS2VvYno

Good. The ferries are valid military targets.
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