Ted Cruz Most Popular Politician in Texas, Outperforming Biden, Abbott, Cornyn

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Fishrrman

I had no idea he wasn't born in the US.

Will this keep him off the Supreme court?

No, @sneakypete   Natural born citizen applies only to elgibility for the office of President of the United States.  The Founders wanted no hint of dual alligiance in what is now the Oval Office.  These men were truly brilliant ....

[HoustonSam]

@sneakypete

SCOTUS steadfastly refused to hear any of the challenges to Obama's eligibility, but one should note that SCOTUS has never applied the term "natural born citizen" to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”

The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens.

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens,

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

(A)ll children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

You have argued on this forum @Bigun that SCOTUS precedent is meaningless when compared to the actual words of the US Constitution : https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,448318.msg2501062.html#msg2501062.  By your own reasoning these legal precedents are irrelevant to this discussion.

[Right_in_Virginia]

SneakyPete wonders:
"I think there MAY be something in his background that someone else knows about that keeps him from being more ambitious. Otherwise,he would have ran for President long ago."

There certainly is.
He fails the "natural born citizenship" test.
For that reason, Ted Cruz (regardless of how successful he is in the Senate) will never be president.

Or should never be president @Fishrrman   But for some reason that escapes me, for many conservatives this one man matters more than the Constitution and the Founders' intent.

[HoustonSam]

And I have shown you that the law you cite has no application in the United States of America where there is no King and thus no lines of asencion. A FACT well known to the framers who were universally familiar with Vettel and referred to it repeatedly.

Vettel is a commentary, not a legal document.  Regardless of how influential it might have been, it was not the law and did not have the force of law.  Absent a specific legal act re-defining "natural born" from what the founders understood it to mean in the law they had known and practiced for years, there is no basis for concluding that they intended some other legal definition.

Penumbras and Emanations, @Bigun, Penumbras and Emanations.

[Bigun]

Vettel is a commentary, not a legal document.  Regardless of how influential it might have been, it was not the law and did not have the force of law.  Absent a specific legal act re-defining "natural born" from what the founders understood it to mean in the law they had known and practiced for years, there is no basis for concluding that they intended some other legal definition.

Penumbras and Emanations, @Bigun, Penumbras and Emanations.

I'll stick with St. George Tucker and consider myself in good company.  Good day to you @HoustonSam

[HoustonSam]

I'll stick with St. George Tucker and consider myself in good company.  Good day to you @HoustonSam

Anyone in your company @Bigun is in good company.

My best to you and yours this Thanksgiving.

[sneakypete]

No, @sneakypete   Natural born citizen applies only to elgibility for the office of President of the United States.  The Founders wanted no hint of dual alligiance in what is now the Oval Office.  These men were truly brilliant ....

@Right_in_Virginia

EXCELLENT news! Thank you.

As a wise man once noted,"Ah pity da fool......" that would cross Cruz if he were sitting on the SC.

btw,I know he has turned down a nomination at least once,but that doesn't mean he wouldn't take it if he lost his Senate seat.

Smart people change their minds all the time.

[corbe]

   When Mr. Trump accused Cruz of being ineligible for the Presidency due to citizenship, He responded that he had STANDING and would argue his case before the USSC himself, Mark Levin, another Constitutional Lawyer, agreed with Cruz.  Is not Senator Cruz the most winning Lawyer, ALIVE, before the Court?  I'd take my chances with those odds.  He certainly couldn't go the route McStain (Panama) and romney (Mexico City) took and get a Senate Resolution since most those SOB's hate him.

[libertybele]

Cruz is one of the few conservatives left in Congress.  We need to seat many more like him and that unfortunately just isn't going to happen.

[libertybele]

   When Mr. Trump accused Cruz of being ineligible for the Presidency due to citizenship, He responded that he had STANDING and would argue his case before the USSC himself, Mark Levin, another Constitutional Lawyer, agreed with Cruz.  Is not Senator Cruz the most winning Lawyer, ALIVE, before the Court?  I'd take my chances with those odds.  He certainly couldn't go the route McStain (Panama) and romney (Mexico City) took and get a Senate Resolution since most those SOB's hate him.

Cruz definitely isn't Mr. Popular in the Senate and he and Mitch have never seen eye to eye.  I doubt he really gives a flip what Romney thinks of him. I doubt it would ever  happen, but I would love to see a debate between Mittens and Cruz -- sheer entertainment.

[corbe]

   Him and Jordan are the only Tea Party (2012) members left that we can still somewhat count on.  I didn't vote for Cruz in 2018 because I was still butthurt about his needless Budget votes of 2017.

[catfish1957]

Cruz definitely isn't Mr. Popular in the Senate and he and Mitch have never seen eye to eye.  I doubt he really gives a flip what Romney thinks of him. I doubt it would ever  happen, but I would love to see a debate between Mittens and Cruz -- sheer entertainment.

I met Senator Cruz at a small rally during his first primary for senate.  I was really impresses with his incredible intellect, and most of all his absolute love of this country. He is about as conservative as you can get as a legislator.   He really is a friendly guy too, but his pitfall is that his sharpness sometimes comes across as condescending when speaking, and has no problem challenging a view he is not in agreement.

I am sure he knows his problem with it, but he may have trouble controlling in much of the same manner heels up can't keep from doing her cackling storms.

[corbe]

   Great Men overcome their known inadequacies, others just tweet stupid $hit.

[LegalAmerican]

Or should never be president @Fishrrman   But for some reason that escapes me, for many conservatives this one man matters more than the Constitution and the Founders' intent.

Well said.  I don't care anyone wants to massage what NATURAL BORN person means, the INTENT was on AMERICAN SOIL.  No where else.  No divided loyalty.  LOVE YOUR AMERICA. 

(You know anyone who is innocent, would want me on the jury.  No matter what crap would be said, thrown at the jury, I would get to the truth. I would find that person, NOT GUILTY.). 

[corbe]

   Didn't your mama teach you Cruz Haters that if you can't say nothing nice, STFU!

[HoustonSam]

I met Senator Cruz at a small rally during his first primary for senate.  I was really impresses with his incredible intellect, and most of all his absolute love of this country. He is about as conservative as you can get as a legislator.   He really is a friendly guy too, but his pitfall is that his sharpness sometimes comes across as condescending when speaking, and has no problem challenging a view he is not in agreement.

I am sure he knows his problem with it, but he may have trouble controlling in much of the same manner heels up can't keep from doing her cackling storms.

As strongly as I support Cruz, I agree that his manner can be off-putting at times.  But then again we are regularly told about a different political figure that we aren't supposed to distracted by meaningless personal traits.  In fact that other fellow's grating personal traits are actually a strength you see; so I'll embrace whatever condescending demeanor Cruz might occasionally have and argue that it is, actually, part of his greatness.

[Wingnut]

I'll take Cruz over Trump any day.  Trump's use by date has expired.

[libertybele]

I met Senator Cruz at a small rally during his first primary for senate.  I was really impresses with his incredible intellect, and most of all his absolute love of this country. He is about as conservative as you can get as a legislator.   He really is a friendly guy too, but his pitfall is that his sharpness sometimes comes across as condescending when speaking, and has no problem challenging a view he is not in agreement.

I am sure he knows his problem with it, but he may have trouble controlling in much of the same manner heels up can't keep from doing her cackling storms.

You are lucky; I unfortunately missed my chance to meet him.  I don't see flaws in his personality and demeanor as others do.

 I've been a Cruz fan for awhile and we need more conservatives like him to fill seats in Congress.

[HoustonSam]

I'll take Cruz over Trump any day.  Trump's use by date has expired.

Lots of people in the R party are willing to drink sour milk; in fact, they insist on it.

And depending on how badly the Ds continue failing, the whole country might be OK with it in 2024 as well.  Even sour milk is better than poison.

But we really ought to offer something better than sour milk.

[corbe]

   In order to maintain some semblance of sanity is this crazy azz world I have immensely lowered my standards of what to expect.  I agree with you @HoustonSam in this instance we need to raise up and expect more than just another 4 years of 'sour milk'.

[HoustonSam]

   In order to maintain some semblance of sanity is this crazy azz world I have immensely lowered my standards of what to expect.  I agree with you @HoustonSam in this instance we need to raise up and expect more than just another 4 years of 'sour milk'.

Putting on my pedantic, condescending Cruz hat here - I don't really expect more than sour milk @corbe .  I just think we (actually the Rs) ought to offer more.

But it will be what it will be, and if Trump is the nominee then I'll drink the sour milk.  Right now I'm drinking Evan Williams Bottled in Bond; sorry, I don't know how to imbed an image of the bottle.

[corbe]

   I raise a toast to your continued good health @HoustonSam

[HoustonSam]

   I raise a toast to your continued good health @HoustonSam

Yep, that's the one.  Not necessarily my favorite (that would be George Dickel Old Number 12), but you can't beat Evan 100 proof on bang for the buck; reasonably priced and good quality.

And I raise a glass to your continued good health also @corbe.  Happy Thanksgiving.

[catfish1957]

As strongly as I support Cruz, I agree that his manner can be off-putting at times.  But then again we are regularly told about a different political figure that we aren't supposed to distracted by meaningless personal traits.  In fact that other fellow's grating personal traits are actually a strength you see; so I'll embrace whatever condescending demeanor Cruz might occasionally have and argue that it is, actually, part of his greatness.

I agree 100%, and those idiosyncrasies would have no bearing on my support of him, or whether I would vote for him.  OTOH, how it translates to the less discerning touchy feely voters is another matter.  And there is the problem.

[AARguy]

I fully support Cruz, but I am also an Abbott fan. Abbott shielded us from all the China Virus restrictions. Abbott kept Critical Race Theory out of our schools. Abbott brought home our National Guard from DC before released by the radical left wing federal authority. Abbott signed the Constitutional Carry bill.

I escaped California (after two decades) four years ago and was born and raised in New York. I know what living in tyranny is all about. Texas is free. And Governor Abbott keeps us free. But like I said, Cruz is great too.

[txradioguy]

I'll take Cruz over Trump any day.  Trump's use by date has expired.

QFT

[txradioguy]

Why did I know that as soon as I clicked this thread the first comments I'd see are the old and debunked "Cruz isn't a Citizen" crap from the usual sources?

 

[Bigun]

Why did I know that as soon as I clicked this thread the first comments I'd see are the old and debunked "Cruz isn't a Citizen" crap from the usual sources?

 

I haven't seen anyone say that Cruz isn't a citizen but his citizenship relies on a statute making him ineligible for the office of president of the United States.

[txradioguy]

I haven't seen anyone say that Cruz isn't a citizen but his citizenship relies on a statute making him ineligible for the office of president of the United States.

Except he's not ineligible.

And quite frankly...had Trump not erroneously made it an issue none of the people in here mindlessly repeating what he said would be making it an issue.

[sneakypete]

As strongly as I support Cruz, I agree that his manner can be off-putting at times.

@HoustonSam

Trump has the same problem,and I will never understand how some of these cretins make it back home at night after work without getting lost.

We ain't marrying these people. Hell,we ain't even dating them. What we are doing is voting for them in order to try protect and preserve America while keeping our individual freedoms intact.

[sneakypete]

I'll take Cruz over Trump any day.  Trump's use by date has expired.

@Wingnut

Big whoop.

You would take Hillary over Trump.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Cruz is one of the few conservatives left in Congress.  We need to seat many more like him and that unfortunately just isn't going to happen.

Why do you state such a comment?

Do you believe the sky is falling once again?

Ted has developed a cadre of like-minded since he began his DC presence, such as Boebert, Hawley, Biggs, Kennedy, Donalds, Greene, Cloud, Bishop, and more.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I fully support Cruz, but I am also an Abbott fan. Abbott shielded us from all the China Virus restrictions. Abbott kept Critical Race Theory out of our schools. Abbott brought home our National Guard from DC before released by the radical left wing federal authority. Abbott signed the Constitutional Carry bill.

I escaped California (after two decades) four years ago and was born and raised in New York. I know what living in tyranny is all about. Texas is free. And Governor Abbott keeps us free. But like I said, Cruz is great too.

Abbott did not shield us from the restrictions.  He implemented them early on until his constituents raised hell.

He did the same with illegal immigration.

And he was atrocious on energy.  He single-handedly helped cause the cold weather debacle last year when he decided to appoint his lawyer buddies who knew nothing about energy to run the Public Utility Commission that supervised the grid.  They and ERCOT, the Energy Reliability Council of Texas, were more interested in supporting wind energy in Texas than keeping the grid reliable, and Abbott received a wind energy award the week before NONE of the thousands of wind turbines proved their unreliability of energy supply. 

As a politician first and foremost, he never admitted his culpability in letting Texans die in the cold weather and fired all members of the PUC and of ERCOT instead to escape blame.

Abbott is not a conservative.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

As strongly as I support Cruz, I agree that his manner can be off-putting at times.  But then again we are regularly told about a different political figure that we aren't supposed to distracted by meaningless personal traits.  In fact that other fellow's grating personal traits are actually a strength you see; so I'll embrace whatever condescending demeanor Cruz might occasionally have and argue that it is, actually, part of his greatness.

I think you are simply seeing a lawyer's natural proclivity in verbosity.

I argue this could be improved by electing more non-lawyers to represent us in Congress.

I love the story of the NJ truck driver who unseated the entrenched Senate head in NJ.

It is one reason Trump is endearing, albeit his many flaws in temperament and modesty.

[LegalAmerican]

I haven't seen anyone say that Cruz isn't a citizen but his citizenship relies on a statute making him ineligible for the office of president of the United States.

 

[libertybele]

Why do you state such a comment?

Do you believe the sky is falling once again?

Ted has developed a cadre of like-minded since he began his DC presence, such as Boebert, Hawley, Biggs, Kennedy, Donalds, Greene, Cloud, Bishop, and more.

Perhaps you think that everything is just peachy; rising inflation, food, gas, push for green energy and electric cars, crisis in the Middle East, food shortages, shortage of goods, stealing of elections, BLM/Antifa riots, defunding of police, etc.  I don't think the sky has stopped falling.

The fact remains that there are many more RINO's than there are conservatives. Good ole Mitch tries to ensure that incumbents remain seated and that conservatives trying to come in are stopped.  (Cruz tells that bit of info in his book "A Time for Truth").

[DefiantMassRINO]

I wanna see that Cuban Cannuck's long-form birth certificate ... and it better not be written in Quebecoise.

[LegalAmerican]

I think you are simply seeing a lawyer's natural proclivity in verbosity.

I argue this could be improved by electing more non-lawyers to represent us in Congress.

I love the story of the NJ truck driver who unseated the entrenched Senate head in NJ.

It is one reason Trump is endearing, albeit his many flaws in temperament and modesty.

As a woman, I see him act as most men!  I don't see any FLAWS.  I see an ALPHA MALE doing his thing.
He has a beautiful temperament, in spite of all the ugly stories, told about him and daily put downs. Rare is it, he talks about himself.  Once in a blue moon, HE HAS TO.  MEDIA CERTAINLY IS NOT GOING TO DO IT.  NEVER TRUMPERS AREN'T GOING TO DO IT. I go by his fruits. =www.magapill.com

He returned 20% from his money to form his cabinet, back to treasury, he did not take any pay while in office. Neither did any TRUMP helping him. He made good deals for our behalf. Less money spent on Military equipment. Billions  coming in from China tariffs, etc.  Making Mexico defend their border side using 26,000 military of their own men, since congress would not change bad immigration laws.

POTUS TRUMP...does not ever drink any alcohol, never smokes, anything, does not drink coffee, does not do ANY illegal drugs. EVER.  If anything, he is very wholesome.  He could be mormon, DOING THE WORD OF WISDOM. lol

List his many flaws, please.  And decades of envious late night show people, interviewing him.  They ask, how much something cost.  He does not want to say.  They badger him, till he says something...then, next it is "TRUMP BRAGS ABOUT HIS WEALTH." He had 4 years in a military school, mentored by a GENERAL.  Come out a captain.  He is an officer and a gentleman.  He was a cadet.

 Yeah, yeah, locker room talk!  NAME ME ONE GUY WHO HAS NOT DONE THAT!  ONE!

 Ok, I probably offended you, did not mean to, I just don't understand, what some people say about him.  ALL THE MEN ACT THE SAME. 

 See, letterman, Mike Wallace.  Even Roseann Barr.

[LegalAmerican]

I wanna see that Cuban Cannuck's long-form birth certificate ... and it better not be written in Quebecoise.

His parents never did that.  Some form, to make it official he is an 'AMERICAN'.   It has a ' 4' in the name. Like some Naturalization form. 

[Elderberry]

His parents never did that.  Some form, to make it official he is an 'AMERICAN'.   It has a ' 4' in the name. Like some Naturalization form.

How about DS-2029 - Consular Report of Birth Abroad.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Perhaps you think that everything is just peachy; rising inflation, food, gas, push for green energy and electric cars, crisis in the Middle East, food shortages, shortage of goods, stealing of elections, BLM/Antifa riots, defunding of police, etc.  I don't think the sky has stopped falling.

The fact remains that there are many more RINO's than there are conservatives. Good ole Mitch tries to ensure that incumbents remain seated and that conservatives trying to come in are stopped.  (Cruz tells that bit of info in his book "A Time for Truth").

Good grief.  Guess you don't believe any of the names I named are conservative so you continue the ramblings we are not getting any conservatives in DC.

[Fishrrman]

RINO wrote:
"I wanna see that Cuban Cannuck's long-form birth certificate ... and it better not be written in Quebecoise."

As I understand it, the issues with Mr. Cruz eligibility are not limited to the location of his birth, but also to subsequent documentation that does not support the issue of citizenship.

Back around 2015-16 there was a thread over at TOS discussing this, and some very interesting information was noted in a few posts. I wish I had saved the links, the action/inaction taken by either Mr. Cruz or by his parents (mother?) damaged his claim as to "natural born citizenship".

I'm with Bigun on this one...

[Bigun]

RINO wrote:
"I wanna see that Cuban Cannuck's long-form birth certificate ... and it better not be written in Quebecoise."

As I understand it, the issues with Mr. Cruz eligibility are not limited to the location of his birth, but also to subsequent documentation that does not support the issue of citizenship.

Back around 2015-16 there was a thread over at TOS discussing this, and some very interesting information was noted in a few posts. I wish I had saved the links, the action/inaction taken by either Mr. Cruz or by his parents (mother?) damaged his claim as to "natural born citizenship".

I'm with Bigun on this one...

Barrack Obama's father was, at the time of Barrack's birth, a citizen of Kenya and that made Barrack A citizen of Kenya as well.  Not eligible to run for president or vice- president.

Ted's mother was a U. S. Citizen at the time of his birth but his father was not rendering Ted ineligible as well.

Neither of Kamala Haris's parents were citizens at the time of her birth and definitely ineligible.

[libertybele]

Good grief.  Guess you don't believe any of the names I named are conservative so you continue the ramblings we are not getting any conservatives in DC.

Nope, didn't say that there aren't any conservatives in DC; they are few.

[LegalAmerican]

Words are from article.
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ACTUALLY--THEIR PLANS FOR ENDING ELECTIONS, GUNS, RELIGION ETC. IN THE USA ETC. THEY PLANNED FOR 2016 TO BE OUR LAST ELECTION.
IF U CAN READ THIS AND NOT BE SHOCKED, PLEASE CHECK TO SEE THAT YOU ARE STILL ALIVE.
Sorry about some double pasting in--please skip duplicate parts, of course.

https://ellacruz.org/2018/10/31/leaked- ... -election/

Leaked Open Society Foundation Document; The Last Election

Posted on October 31, 2018

Please download the pdf at the bottom left of the page and keep it safe.
Searching on Scribd, another bombshell obtained by Realtruenews.org is just astonishing. This one is allegedly an internal Soros’s Open Society Foundation document with restricted distribution which openly says the United States with its religion and the right to bear arms is an obstacle to obtain a world government, and the elections should be eliminated and the 2016 election will be the last election in the U.S.

This document is a blueprint to end public democracy in the United States by enabling marginalized groups, overturn the social order and create a sustainable state under the Directives of Agenda 21. The U.S Termination Project is designed to end the constitutional law, and replacing it with a technocracy tyranny.[/font][/color]

[LegalAmerican]

Cont;
The image that you see below is what they have designed for the White House after the United States ends the democratic process. Read this article carefully. It is very well connected to my previous article about Martial Law Jenga. It actually seems the first steps of the JENGA protocol. The image as you see seems to be taken in China or North Korea. The exact same style of Kim Jang Un, his father or Mao style. This is what the left wants for America. Wake up, people.


–“They cling to guns and religion. What will they do when we take both of those away?”– Barack Obama, 2008, donor speech.

–” If I had a city, it would look like Detroit”–  Barack Obama, private shareholders meeting 2014

(page 2)

1 THE PROBLEM WITH US ELECTIONS
2 MARKETING A VISUAL CRISIS
3 A HOUSE DIVIDED
4 DISSOLUTION

Executive: Christopher Stone Subject Matter Expertise: Crisis Operations Team

THE OPEN SOCIETY INSTITUTE is a private operating foundation that promotes them arch of social progress and justice around the world. OSI’s U.S. Termination Project seeks to end public democracy in the United States by enabling marginalized groups to overturn the established social orders and create a sustainable state under the  Directives of Agenda 21.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Nope, didn't say that there aren't any conservatives in DC; they are few.

Celebrate the gains instead of pouting.

I named some gains, Ms glass-half-empty

[IsailedawayfromFR]

As a woman, I see him act as most men!  I don't see any FLAWS.  I see an ALPHA MALE doing his thing.
He has a beautiful temperament, in spite of all the ugly stories, told about him and daily put downs. Rare is it, he talks about himself.  Once in a blue moon, HE HAS TO.  MEDIA CERTAINLY IS NOT GOING TO DO IT.  NEVER TRUMPERS AREN'T GOING TO DO IT. I go by his fruits. =www.magapill.com

He returned 20% from his money to form his cabinet, back to treasury, he did not take any pay while in office. Neither did any TRUMP helping him. He made good deals for our behalf. Less money spent on Military equipment. Billions  coming in from China tariffs, etc.  Making Mexico defend their border side using 26,000 military of their own men, since congress would not change bad immigration laws.

POTUS TRUMP...does not ever drink any alcohol, never smokes, anything, does not drink coffee, does not do ANY illegal drugs. EVER.  If anything, he is very wholesome.  He could be mormon, DOING THE WORD OF WISDOM. lol

List his many flaws, please.  And decades of envious late night show people, interviewing him.  They ask, how much something cost.  He does not want to say.  They badger him, till he says something...then, next it is "TRUMP BRAGS ABOUT HIS WEALTH." He had 4 years in a military school, mentored by a GENERAL.  Come out a captain.  He is an officer and a gentleman.  He was a cadet.

 Yeah, yeah, locker room talk!  NAME ME ONE GUY WHO HAS NOT DONE THAT!  ONE!

 Ok, I probably offended you, did not mean to, I just don't understand, what some people say about him.  ALL THE MEN ACT THE SAME. 

 See, letterman, Mike Wallace.  Even Roseann Barr.

You are so endearing yourself, apparently ranting about almost nothing as I cannot tell honestly what is upsetting you.

So be it.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Except he's not ineligible.

And quite frankly...had Trump not erroneously made it an issue none of the people in here mindlessly repeating what he said would be making it an issue.

Actually @txradioguy Cruz, himself,  made it an issue when he publically renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2014 and spent the nexr year trying to convince voters even though his father was a Cuban citizen when he was born in Canada he was, indeed, a NBC.

Cruz never settled the debate.

[libertybele]

Barrack Obama's father was, at the time of Barrack's birth, a citizen of Kenya and that made Barrack A citizen of Kenya as well.  Not eligible to run for president or vice- president.

Ted's mother was a U. S. Citizen at the time of his birth but his father was not rendering Ted ineligible as well.

Neither of Kamala Haris's parents were citizens at the time of her birth and definitely ineligible.

Given that 'exceptions' were made for Kamel and Bammy, Ted shouldn't face any challenges about his eligibility should he decide to run for president.  I'm not saying that it is right but IF the leftists make an issue of it, I think it would be difficult for them to make a case.