Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set

[GtHawk]

She's claiming Mike Lee the senator from Utah is the guy on the flights. Her only evidence is the name - which is a pretty common one. I'll wait for some actual evidence that it was that Mike Lee.

Yeah she also tried to smear Cruz by association saying he is a friend of Lee's. I wonder, just for shits and giggles you know, how many people in and outside Hollywood or the Beltway were friends of or knew people that flew on Epstein's flights that are totally innocent of anything but association.

[mountaineer]

BREAKING: Search warrant is issued for Alec Baldwin's phone weeks after fatal shooting of cinematographer on Rust set

    Baldwin shot and killed Halyna Hutchins, a 42-year-old cinematographer, on the set of Rust on October 21
    Baldwin, 63, was holding a gun that he says went off without him pulling the trigger and wounded her
    He told ABC on December 2 that he doesn't feel responsible, and that someone else is to blame but he wouldn't say who
    Baldwin also said he'd have killed himself if he did feel guilty and that he doesn't think he'll face criminal charges
    Baldwin said that he didn't even realize he had shot Hutchins until an hour after the incident
    He said he didn't know she'd died until sheriffs told him at the end of his interview in Sante Fe
    Baldwin insists he thought the gun was empty, as did others on the set, when it was handed to him

By Harriet Alexander For Dailymail.com
Published: 17:46 EST, 16 December 2021 | Updated: 17:53 EST, 16 December 2021 ... Story at Daily Mail

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1471615554502856705

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1471615554502856705

I wonder if we'll find out there was more going on --- whatever it might have been --- between Baldwin and his victim than meets the eye.   

[GtHawk]

For anyone that even remotely buys Baldwins bullshit about that revolver just firing on its own without him pulling the trigger I submit for your perusal this video from Brandon Herrera. He has a YouTube channel I find enjoyable. Oh yeah, language warning.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5NI1fTx8tI&ab_channel=BrandonHerrera

[LegalAmerican]

I wonder if we'll find out there was more going on --- whatever it might have been --- between Baldwin and his victim than meets the eye.   

I say yes. Alec is a woman hater and abuses females.  One tactic for men who abuse women, is to show a gun. ( My book of BATTERED woman.)  It was Oct. and some say a satanist ritual was performed. He pointed the gun, he cocked it, then put his finger on the trigger.  He claims he does not remember?  I am waiting for the BLAME THE WOMAN, on this shooting.

Next, it will be, he defended himself....from her.   

[LegalAmerican]

I agree. These people would have money, connections, etc.

While possible more than one have the same name, or the name of someone else who is prominent but not involved, it becomes far less likely that 'just any' person would be on those flights.
Money, influence, power, or motives of looking for leverage on the person would shrink the pool. Fry cooks need not apply.
Those criteria would limit the pool from which the passengers on the 'express' would be drawn, and increase the probability that someone on the list would be "The" (fill in name) rather than just another (fill in name).

Thank you. That is all I am saying.  Mike Lee and Ted Cruz are BFF'S.  Now, I have to check my saved files to prove that out. I have never been a liar. I like facts. 

[LegalAmerican]

From Mike Lee's own lips. His BFF, is Ted Cruz. And POTUS TRUMP never said anything like the below.  ROGER STONE had an article in his Enquirer magazine and they want to put that on POTUS TRUMP.  Mike Lee, was just a bit nuts, with everything he said.  I also, just pointed out a name.  Mormons support Islam.
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Sen. Mike Lee goes on epic rant about Donald Trump

By LOUIS NELSON
 
06/30/2016 06:58 AM EDT

Pressed during a telephone interview Wednesday night to explain why he has not yet endorsed Donald Trump’s presidential bid, Sen. Mike Lee unloaded.

“Hey look, Steve, I get it. You want me to endorse Trump,” Lee (R-Utah) told NewsMaxTV host Steve Malzberg. “We can get into that if you want. We can get into the fact that he accused my best friend’s father of conspiring to kill JFK.

We can go through the fact that he’s made statements that some have identified correctly as religiously intolerant. We can get into the fact that he’s wildly unpopular in my state, in part because my state consists of people who are members of a religious minority church. A people who were ordered exterminated by the governor of Missouri in 1838. And, statements like that make them nervous.”

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Quote from: DB on December 15, 2021, 04:23:22 pm
She's claiming Mike Lee the senator from Utah is the guy on the flights. Her only evidence is the name - which is a pretty common one. I'll wait for some actual evidence that it was that Mike Lee.


Yeah she also tried to smear Cruz by association saying he is a friend of Lee's. I wonder, just for shits and giggles you know, how many people in and outside Hollywood or the Beltway were friends of or knew people that flew on Epstein's flights that are totally innocent of anything but association.

[DB]

From Mike Lee's own lips. His BFF, is Ted Cruz. And POTUS TRUMP...never said anything like this.  ROGER STONE had an article in his Enquirer magazine and they want to put that on POTUS TRUMP.  Mike Lee, was just a bit nuts, with everything he said.
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Sen. Mike Lee goes on epic rant about Donald Trump

By LOUIS NELSON
 
06/30/2016 06:58 AM EDT

Pressed during a telephone interview Wednesday night to explain why he has not yet endorsed Donald Trump’s presidential bid, Sen. Mike Lee unloaded.
“Hey look, Steve, I get it. You want me to endorse Trump,” Lee (R-Utah) told NewsMaxTV host Steve Malzberg. “We can get into that if you want. We can get into the fact that he accused my best friend’s father of conspiring to kill JFK. We can go through the fact that he’s made statements that some have identified correctly as religiously intolerant. We can get into the fact that he’s wildly unpopular in my state, in part because my state consists of people who are members of a religious minority church. A people who were ordered exterminated by the governor of Missouri in 1838. And, statements like that make them nervous.”

And this has to do with what?

[GtHawk]

And this has to do with what?

With continuing to try a slime Cruz through the name Mike Lee being on a Epstein flight log. I guess if you are a Bishop in the church of Trump your Job is to slime anyone you think is some sort of threat. Personally I think over the top worshipers have issues whether they are Obamaites or Trumpites.

[Smokin Joe]

BREAKING: Search warrant is issued for Alec Baldwin's phone weeks after fatal shooting of cinematographer on Rust set

    Baldwin shot and killed Halyna Hutchins, a 42-year-old cinematographer, on the set of Rust on October 21
    Baldwin, 63, was holding a gun that he says went off without him pulling the trigger and wounded her
    He told ABC on December 2 that he doesn't feel responsible, and that someone else is to blame but he wouldn't say who
    Baldwin also said he'd have killed himself if he did feel guilty and that he doesn't think he'll face criminal charges
    Baldwin said that he didn't even realize he had shot Hutchins until an hour after the incident
    He said he didn't know she'd died until sheriffs told him at the end of his interview in Sante Fe
    Baldwin insists he thought the gun was empty, as did others on the set, when it was handed to him

By Harriet Alexander For Dailymail.com
Published: 17:46 EST, 16 December 2021 | Updated: 17:53 EST, 16 December 2021 ... Story at Daily Mail

Excuse my abbreviation, but WTF? It is hard to believe two people were shot and never made a ruckus over it.

[mountaineer]

Excuse my abbreviation, but WTF? It is hard to believe two people were shot and never made a ruckus over it.

That's what John Schneider said in the video posted above. One cannot fire a live round from such a gun and not know it immediately.

[240B]

Baldwin insists he thought the gun was empty, as did others on the set, when it was handed to him

This is a self incriminating statement by Baldwin in two ways.
First: Any glance at a revolver and the rounds in the cylinder would be glaringly apparent. It is not like a semi-auto with the rounds in a mag. With a revolver nobody could handle the weapon in any way without easily seeing that it is loaded.
Second: You never point a gun at anybody no matter what, but especially if you "think" it is empty. The first thing everybody should do when handed a pistol is to determine how many rounds are available and to clear the weapon. According to standard Hollywood procedures, Baldwin had a clear duty to check the weapon. Obviously, he did not do that.

BTW: I'm glad we got the thread back on track after following the NeverTrump Biden worshippers down a rabbit hole. Lately, it seems that any thread can devolve into a NeverTrumper liberals "We HATE Trump" thread just out of nowhere.

[Smokin Joe]

Baldwin insists he thought the gun was empty, as did others on the set, when it was handed to him

This is a self incriminating statement by Baldwin in two ways.
First: Any glance at a revolver and the rounds in the cylinder would be glaringly apparent. It is not like a semi-auto with the rounds in a mag. With a revolver nobody could handle the weapon in any way without easily seeing that it is loaded.
Second: You never point a gun at anybody no matter what, but especially if you "think" it is empty. The first thing everybody should do when handed a pistol is to determine how many rounds are available and to clear the weapon. According to standard Hollywood procedures, Baldwin had a clear duty to check the weapon. Obviously, he did not do that.

BTW: I'm glad we got the thread back on track after following the NeverTrump Biden worshippers down a rabbit hole. Lately, it seems that any thread can devolve into a NeverTrumper liberals "We HATE Trump" thread just out of nowhere.

No doubt intentional derailing of the thread to take into "Oh, Jeez, not this sh*t again!" territory and stop people from reading legitimate on-topic commentary or engaging in a relevant discussion.

No way he discharged a firearm, wounding two, and didn't realize he'd shot someone.

At least one of the victims would have reacted verbally to being wounded.

[deb]

No doubt intentional derailing of the thread to take into "Oh, Jeez, not this sh*t again!" territory and stop people from reading legitimate on-topic commentary or engaging in a relevant discussion.

No way he discharged a firearm, wounding two, and didn't realize he'd shot someone.

At least one of the victims would have reacted verbally to being wounded.

He lies as easily as he breathes.

[240B]

He lies as easily as he breathes.

Also, there is no way he thought the gun was 'empty'. The shooter would easily see the rounds in the cylinder. When he pulled the hammer back, as Baldwin has admitted he did, he would have had a clear view of the loaded round in the firing chamber.

The more Baldwin talks about what happened, the deeper he is burying himself.

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1471725734821433345

[Hoodat]

    Baldwin said that he didn't even realize he had shot Hutchins until an hour after the incident
 

Was that before or after the medical evac helicopter arrived?

[240B]

Obviously a lie. The entire set would have immediately exploded in panic. If help was not called until an hour after the shooting, that could only happen if Baldwin "ordered" them not to call and to keep it quiet. Until he no longer had a choice and had to call paramedics and police.

Likely in my opinion, they will find that the first person he called was his lawyer. And his lawyer told him that he must call for help.

[GtHawk]

Obviously a lie. The entire set would have immediately exploded in panic. If help was not called until an hour after the shooting, that could only happen if Baldwin "ordered" them not to call and to keep it quiet. Until he no longer had a choice and had to call paramedics and police.

Likely in my opinion, they will find that the first person he called was his lawyer. And his lawyer told him that he must call for help.

And sober up

[mystery-ak]

Alec Baldwin Requested Larger Gun Before Fatal Shooting on 'Rust' Movie Set, Police Say

Actor Alec Baldwin "requested a bigger gun" before the incident that left cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead and director Joel Souza injured on the set of the movie Rust in October, police said.

An investigation of the deadly shooting recently revealed that Baldwin had discussed his choice of weapon with Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed via email, according to an affidavit from Detective Alexandria Hancock, which was included in a search warrant issued to acquire Baldwin's cell phone on Thursday.

"Alec said since they were in rehearsal, he assumed he had an empty gun, therefore when he shot the gun, Haylena [sic] was right in front of him," Hancock wrote. "Alec described the gun to be a 'period' Colt. He said there were emails transferred back and forth between Hannah and him where she showed him different styles of guns."

more
https://www.newsweek.com/alec-baldwin-requested-larger-gun-before-fatal-shooting-rust-movie-set-police-say-1660358

[DB]

Key word is assumed.

Assuming without checking if the gun was loaded is what caused the death and injury.

He's responsible.

[Cyber Liberty]

Alec Baldwin Requested Larger Gun Before Fatal Shooting on 'Rust' Movie Set, Police Say

Actor Alec Baldwin "requested a bigger gun" before the incident that left cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead and director Joel Souza injured on the set of the movie Rust in October, police said.

An investigation of the deadly shooting recently revealed that Baldwin had discussed his choice of weapon with Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed via email, according to an affidavit from Detective Alexandria Hancock, which was included in a search warrant issued to acquire Baldwin's cell phone on Thursday.

"Alec said since they were in rehearsal, he assumed he had an empty gun, therefore when he shot the gun, Haylena [sic] was right in front of him," Hancock wrote. "Alec described the gun to be a 'period' Colt. He said there were emails transferred back and forth between Hannah and him where she showed him different styles of guns."

more
https://www.newsweek.com/alec-baldwin-requested-larger-gun-before-fatal-shooting-rust-movie-set-police-say-1660358

Hanna Reed is the designated scapegoat. She's young and poor.

[240B]

Hanna Reed is the designated scapegoat. She's young and poor.

I understand what you mean, but this case is so serious I don't see that happening. All the people involved want somebody to pay. That young girl can't even pay her rent. I doubt the plaintiffs will allow her to be substituted for deep-pockets Baldwin. They will simply not accept it. And even if Baldwin pawns off some of the criminal charges, as the perp and the producer and the owner of the production company, he will still get crucified in civil court.

[LegalAmerican]

That's what John Schneider said in the video posted above. One cannot fire a live round from such a gun and not know it immediately.

Love your 'baby' in that Santa hat.  Just adorable!